I wish I'd thought of that.

Of course she believes in fossils. She saw one, once. It had the imprint of a human footprint and dinosaur print right on top of each other.

FredaDeStilleto: Of course she believes in fossils. She saw one, once. It had the imprint of a human footprint and dinosaur print right on top of each other.

Not to mention she's running with one.

She believes in creationism donchyaknow! You betcha!

I'm sure with enough googling we can all find the cover story that fundies use in order to fill their gas tanks.

Found this using terms "young earth petroleum"


The incredible pressure found in oil and gas wells indicates they have been there less than 15,000 years. (Presumably, the oil or gas would have escaped long before then.)

Of course the unthinking, moronic creationist reply to this is to simply state that God put the oil under the earth when He created it; obviously for us to burn up and destroy the evil atmosphere.

Teach the bullsh controversy!

Who cares - not like anyone will be able to ask her a question.

I wholeheartedly believe her IQ has to be under 100.

There's just no way she's of average intelligence. Just impossible.

Conservipedia to the rescue! (new window)

"It has been claimed that oil was formed over 100 millions of years from organic remains, but recent experiments have shown that oil can be produced under the right conditions in a matter of minutes."[7]
"Experiments by the U.S. Bureau of mines showed that petroleum (oil) can be produced from organic material in only 20 minutes."[7][12]
"British scientists claimed to have invented a way to turn household garbage into oil suitable for home heating or power plant use. 'We are doing in 10 minutes what it has taken nature 150 million years to do', said Noel McAuliffe of Manchester University..."[7][13]
"Bottom line - Economic accumulations of oil and gas can be generated in thousands of years in sedimentary basins that have experienced hot fluid flow for similar durations."[7][14]

So there you have it, folks. There is no problem with "fossils" or with metamorphic rock, sedimentary layers, continental drift, etc., what the scientists got wrong is just how fast it all came about, the speed just happens, coincidentally, to correspond with the timeline found in a 2000 year old desert-cult manual.

I have oily skin. Does that make me a dinosaur?

Don't answer that if you know how old I am ;)

"I asked how she felt about the second coming and the end times. She responded that she fully believed that the signs of Jesus returning soon 'during MY lifetime' were obvious. 'I can see that, maybe you can't - but it guides me every day.'

Yes. Let's give her the launch codes.

DamnYankees: Who cares - not like anyone will be able to ask her a question.

you win 3.2 internets.

LadyHawke: FredaDeStilleto: Of course she believes in fossils. She saw one, once. It had the imprint of a human footprint and dinosaur print right on top of each other.

Not to mention she's running with one.

Win

She still hasn't released her medical records as she promised to ABC News last week.

That's actually a nice bit of irony.


namegoeshere: "I asked how she felt about the second coming and the end times. She responded that she fully believed that the signs of Jesus returning soon 'during MY lifetime' were obvious. 'I can see that, maybe you can't - but it guides me every day.'

Yes. Let's give her the launch codes.

No farking shiat! WTF? If a candidate got on TV and said that Cthulhu was most likely going to devour our world within a couple decades and they were fine with it, the only oval office they would ever see would be made of rubber but she can say that? Even among Christians, that should be a scary statement. Of course, Bush believed the same thing and we elected him twice (sorta).

namegoeshere: "I asked how she felt about the second coming and the end times. She responded that she fully believed that the signs of Jesus returning soon 'during MY lifetime' were obvious. 'I can see that, maybe you can't - but it guides me every day.'

Yes. Let's give her the launch codes.

Dear Christ what is wrong with your country?! How the titty farking christ did she get selected as a potential leader of your country?

During the 2006 gubernatorial debate in Alaska, Palin suggested schools could teach creationism as well as evolution. "Teach both," she said. "You know, don't be afraid of education. Healthy debate is so important and it's so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both."

Doesn't sound like a nutbag 10,000 year old, center of universe belief to me. Sounds like an acknowledgment that both could be true at the same time, which I think most people believe.

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: Dear Christ what is wrong with your country?! How the titty farking christ did she get selected as a potential leader of your country?

Country first.

inebriated brain: During the 2006 gubernatorial debate in Alaska, Palin suggested schools could teach creationism as well as evolution. "Teach both," she said. "You know, don't be afraid of education. Healthy debate is so important and it's so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both."

Doesn't sound like a nutbag 10,000 year old, center of universe belief to me. Sounds like an acknowledgment that both could be true at the same time, which I think most people believe.

Yeah. Right. Learn the politics of creationism, and you'll realize that what she said is a standard creationist line.

DamnYankees: Learn the politics of creationism

I refuse to do so. I know enough to know that people that believe that the planet is 10,000 years old don't deserve attention, and they are also a small small small percentage of the percentage of morons.

Whether it is a standard creationist line or not, it doesn't matter. The point is you can be a creationist and not deny evolution.

inebriated brain: The point is you can be a creationist and not deny evolution.

Sorry dude, you can't.

What you are getting at is the "watch winder" theory, which is centuries old and harmless. I'm afraid that ulterior agenda of Creationism is far more sinister. It's not about protecting the idea of God, it's about bringing religious doctrine into public schools.

inebriated brain: Doesn't sound like a nutbag 10,000 year old, center of universe belief to me. Sounds like an acknowledgment that both could be true at the same time, which I think most people believe.

It does to me. She knows that schools aren't going to stop teaching evolution. She might try to sound generous by saying "teach both" but the fact is that she advocates science classes teaching material that isn't science.

And "both" means "two". There are hundreds of creation myths. Do you think she wants any non-Judeo/Christian myths taught?

DamnYankees: Who cares - not like anyone will be able to ask her a question.

Unless, they pretend they are the French president Nicolas Sarkozy.

inebriated brain: and they are also a small small small percentage of the percentage of morons.

Polls show your perception of this is incorrect. They are a scarily large percentage of the United States.

inebriated brain: The point is you can be a creationist and not deny evolution.

Not you can't, not by any standard meaning of those terms.

Control_this: She still hasn't released her medical records as she promised to ABC News last week.

Why? Well, Privacy. Republicans traditionally rank it as among their favorite Constitutional rights, at least they did before the Patriot Act, warrantless wiretapping, and the million-man airport Watch List. Okay, let's call it modesty.

Or maybe because medical records would reveal routine details about her pregnancy, pre-natal care and childbirth. Unless... um... they don't exist.

Of course she believes in fossils. She just believes they were put there by Satan to trick us, or were insta-aged by the great flood.

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: I wholeheartedly believe her IQ has to be under 100.

There's just no way she's of average intelligence. Just impossible.

who needs intellect when you're a failed beauty queen who can blow a mean......... flute.

Mugato: And "both" means "two". There are hundreds of creation myths. Do you think she wants any non-Judeo/Christian myths taught?

That's a good point. But other beliefs are being taught in government schools already. Judaism, Buddhism, Islam and Christianity. Maybe not doctrine, but their beliefs certainly are made part of curriculum.

kabloink: DamnYankees: Who cares - not like anyone will be able to ask her a question.

Unless, they pretend they are the French president Nicolas Sarkozy.

.. but only if you butter her up by claiming 'my wife is jealous of your beauty'.

Regnad Kcin: Or maybe because medical records would reveal routine details about her pregnancy, pre-natal care and childbirth. Unless... um... they don't exist.

If there ain't no stitch, she ain't the biatch

If the newspaper was going to question her belief of where fossil fuels came from they probably should have done some research and made sure that they got it right. Fossil fuels come from swamp and peat bog type areas. It's made up almost entirely of plant matter (at least 99%). To be honest I'm not entirely sure how long it takes to create oil from this, although I'm pretty sure it takes more than 10,000 years, I'm pretty sure it takes less than 300 million years. Some farker with more time on their hands should look this up.

Leprechauns! teach the controversy!

DamnYankees: inebriated brain: The point is you can be a creationist and not deny evolution.

Not you can't, not by any standard meaning of those terms.

I certainly do. I believe that this universe was created by god knows what 4.5 billion years ago, and things have evolved to this point. I will plead my ignorance to the fact that I know little of creationism as being portrayed here however.

Crown_of_Shoes: Conservipedia to the rescue! (new window)

I've known about Conservapediarrgarbl for sometime. Until now, though, I didn't know you could use Conservapedia as a reputable citation for Conservapedia entries. That's genius.

/I'm God ^[1]

inebriated brain: I believe that this universe was created by god knows what 4.5 billion years ago, and things have evolved to this point.

That's not creationism. And I think you mean 14.5 billion years ago, not 4.5, which is more like the age of the earth.

inebriated brain: But other beliefs are being taught in government schools already.

Not in science class.

Courtney Cox-Zucker: I didn't know you could use Conservapedia as a reputable citation for Conservapedia entries.


Seriously? That's so stupid it's toxic.

DamnYankees: That's not creationism

I'm at wikipedia now, in the mean time I'll just shut up. Because if what I have read so far in that:

Creationism is the religious belief that humanity, life, the Earth, and the universe were created in their original form by a deity (often the Abrahamic God of Judaism, Christianity and Islam) or deities.[1] I

then I have problems with that concept at the outset. There cannot be that big a percentage of people that believe that? Please say it ain't so...

I'm sorry but the whole concept that oil deposits are dinosaur juice is retarded.

Can we do a little better than "how wine is made"?

inebriated brain: then I have problems with that concept at the outset. There cannot be that big a percentage of people that believe that? Please say it ain't so...

In the USA, its about 50 percent.

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Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude:
Dear Christ what is wrong with your country?! How the titty farking christ did she get selected as a potential leader of your country?

answer in bold.

Crown_of_Shoes: I'm sure with enough googling we can all find the cover story that fundies use in order to fill their gas tanks.

Found this using terms "young earth petroleum"


The incredible pressure found in oil and gas wells indicates they have been there less than 15,000 years. (Presumably, the oil or gas would have escaped long before then.)

Actually, the fundies argue that God created fossils in their present state -- as fossils. Apparently, that God is a real jokester and wants everyone to *believe* the world is older than it actually is.

Naturally, this argument can be used to defend any old thing, including the notion that most of the universe is considerably more than 5,000 light years away from us.

If oil is the carbon product of life forms millions of years ago then there is no reason that life forms since that time have been producing oil also. Therefore oil is not a finite resource and can be, and is being, continually created. (We just use it faster than it is made.)

The other thing bugging me is that nature tends to seek equilibrium. If oil is the result of some need to equalize something then what is happening while we remove it?

mksmith: Actually, the fundies argue that God created fossils in their present state -- as fossils. Apparently, that God is a real jokester and wants everyone to *believe* the world is older than it actually is.

I don't think this is true - at least, there's no consensus. A lot of fundies also believe in rapid fossilization. Watch some of Kent Hovind's videos on youtube if you can stomach it.

Still cringing every time that woman opens her mouth. Hopefully, I will be unclenching, ummm... everything, after Tuesday. Hopefully, no more tempting foreign objects within my reach, also. My new mantra... first, do no harm.

DamnYankees: In the USA, its about 50 percent.

Okay..... *barf*

I wish I could say I understood faith like that, but I do not. And that is all it is, faith. No basis in fact whatsoever, other than a book written 2000 years ago meant to control the masses.

Creationism certainly has varying degrees of intensity, and I thought that I was on the far end of that, opposite the 10,000 flat earthers, but I see now that maybe I am not even on that spectrum whatsoever.

mksmith: Crown_of_Shoes: I'm sure with enough googling we can all find the cover story that fundies use in order to fill their gas tanks.

Found this using terms "young earth petroleum"


The incredible pressure found in oil and gas wells indicates they have been there less than 15,000 years. (Presumably, the oil or gas would have escaped long before then.)

Actually, the fundies argue that God created fossils in their present state -- as fossils. Apparently, that God is a real jokester and wants everyone to *believe* the world is older than it actually is.

Naturally, this argument can be used to defend any old thing, including the notion that most of the universe is considerably more than 5,000 light years away from us.

You ever read Terry Pratchett's early work, Strata? That was basically the plot.

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I wonder, if a creationist believes that humans and dinosaurs lived together, or even just simply that humans were around shortly after the creation of Earth, and also agrees that oil comes from old, buried organic material, does that mean they believe that they're partially burning dead humans every time they fire up the minivan?