There was no food in that article.

Ft Myers + Red Sox Spring Training . . .

HA ha they spelled Fort Myers wrong in the headline and then right in the story. Tards!

They all have Gannett newspapers?

Hint: you can get really good foreign food there

Would agree.

Hello Tee Shirt!

All are places I won't ever visit?

BATMAN BUILDING

And No..I will not press 1 for english. Let the little farkers press uno for spanish.

/Get off my lawn.

There's an pizzeria in my neighborhood here in Nashville that's run by a Mediterranean family. Italian, Sicilian, I'm not sure. But their pizza is unbelievable. Had some last night for the UT/TTU game.

As for other foreign dishes, I'm not so sure. I've heard there are a couple of places to get Ethiopian food here.

AmandaHobear: The hispanic population here has taken broken down neighborhoods and turned them into bustling business districts. They also take care of their homes, and have turned the near westside/downtown area into someplace I am not embarrassed to drive through.(unlike my ghetto-ass neighborhood on the near eastside. I believe in acting your wage, so I live cheaply in the ghetto)

My sister, who teaches art elementary classes filled with Latino kids in Nashville would agree. Many of those kids are children of illegals/undocumented. Those kids pay attention in class, do their homework, are on time, and when it comes to parent teacher meetings/conferences, they may need a translator but they ALWAYS show and make sure that their kids are doing right.

Gah, makes me miss Nashville... I love that damn city.

Had to laugh - my MIL spends winter in Ft. Myers Beach. My wife was visiting with the kid when a van pulled up that had been rented for a Japanese TV station. They were asking for directions because they were lost (Apparently a high profile player had just come over from Japan). My wife took their map and showed them were to go. In exchange, they treated her and the kid to the game the next day, multiple interviews, autographed ball by the team, called to me to ask my thoughts, catered lunch and dinner, and then went to the beach resort to interview all of the folks around my MILs airstream because they were excited by the TV team getting lost and ending up there.

Now - my opinion - last time I was there and walked the lenth of Ft Myers Beach - besides a bar or two the best food was at the 7-11. Feel free to snark, but I was not able to find a good family owned place at the time that I coud get everyone into.

AmandaHobear:
The hispanic population here has taken broken down neighborhoods and turned them into bustling business districts.

It's easy to do whatever you want, when you not only don't have to follow any housing or business regulations, but no one will bust you for not following any housing or business regulation. See also, what's been happening with uninsured illegal motorists (including those who can and cannot read signs in english) hitting legal citizens; and particularly what happened with the housing bubble, folks getting loans who couldn't prove their income, and the people who put illegals in huge homes on $12/hour salaries before citizens thanks to creative use of EINs.

Illegals are the ultimate conservatives. They're also the ultimate new conservatives for being able to decide which laws they will and will not follow.

People who follow the rules are also 'nice people' and deserve to be here, first. Illegal apologists tend to forget that; just as they tend to forget all the 'nice people' who are citizens and feel the brunt of having to follow the rules while the illegals around them do not.

I'm happy your mom found someone to wet her down. That doesn't make it right that the man who came here has made it harder for folks who are following the rules to legitimately be here.

StormDawg: They all have Gannett newspapers?

As does the city you live in. Coincidence?

This thread will not end well.. and we will be lucky to live through it. Flame on

In the Sacramento Area there is a huge influx of cultures Vietnamese, Indian, and Russian mostly. The only ones I have a problem with at times are the Russians. Some of them tend to be the pentacostal bullys who love to talk smak about america having too many foriegners (non-whites) and gays.

I think just about every cabbie in Nashville is Somalian or Ethiopian. Some great Ethiopian and Indian restaurants around.

Also the area of town "Little Mexico" and La Carniceria and El Supermercado.

AmandaHobear: He sure as hell pays taxes, but because he can't file a return, he never sees one dime of it back.

Why can't he file a return?

Sutpen's Hundred: I think just about every cabbie in Nashville is Somalian or Ethiopian. Some great Ethiopian and Indian restaurants around.

Also the area of town "Little Mexico" and La Carniceria and El Supermercado.

They have their own superheroes too?

TheEvilOne23: And No..I will not press 1 for english. Let the little farkers press uno for spanish.

/Get off my lawn.

I'm with you, buddy. The only reason you are asked to choose is so that the owners of the system can track the usage by language. Why should I choose English if the greeting and prompt is already in English? It's not racist or failure to embrace diversity, it's just bad UI design.

Kennedy

Which one? It's not Obie's on Elliston, is it??

bighairyguy: Sutpen's Hundred: I think just about every cabbie in Nashville is Somalian or Ethiopian. Some great Ethiopian and Indian restaurants around.

Also the area of town "Little Mexico" and La Carniceria and El Supermercado.

They have their own superheroes too?

Dude probably, who knows what goes on over there, even the Venezuelans and Colombians stay away.

Sutpen's Hundred: I think just about every cabbie in Nashville is Somalian or Ethiopian. Some great Ethiopian and Indian restaurants around.

Also the area of town "Little Mexico" and La Carniceria and El Supermercado.

You're right about the cabbies. Dead on. And I work in the area where a lot of those Mexican Restaurants are. There's a place on Nolensville near the Zoo that turned an old gas station into a Mexican place. Even the awning that covered the pumps was turned into a patio. Awesome food, too.

As someone who has watched wave after wave of new nationalities of immigrants come into Brooklyn (Puerto Rican, Dominican, Russian, Chinese, Korean, Palestinian, Pakistani, and Albanians in recent memory) Ive found that immigrants of hispanic culture seem to adjust the easiest here. The majority of my friends are Puerto Rican, and I never hear any negative stereotypes about them these days.

/They have the hottest girls too

bighairyguy: They have their own superheroes too?

You bet your ass they do

Atrus: Kennedy

Which one? It's not Obie's on Elliston, is it??

Sal's Pizza out in Hermitage. Right off of exit 219 on I-40. Awesome place.

Newest "immigrant capitals"?

San Antonio and the rest of the cities in Texas would like a word...

Hell, American citizens are probably getting close to being a minority around here. But the food is excellent.

Oh and forgot about the Kurds, can't forget the Kurds.

Nashville Kurdish Pride Gang FTW

/and Fat Moe's authentic Kurdish hamburgers and fries

Atrus: Kennedy

Which one? It's not Obie's on Elliston, is it??

Also, I rented a few movies at the Black Lodge in my college days...

AmandaHobear: I'm Indy and always wondered why, if you could pick any city to live in in the US, why in the hell you would pick here.
My mom married an illegal Mexican.
He's a very nice man, who has treated her with respect and love that she never got from my dad or her couple other boyfriends. Of course has eleventy hundred members of his family here too.
I defend him when people start ranting about all those "damn illegals"
He is NOT automatically legal just because he married my mom. He has been waiting his turn for 8 years to get legal, but the system has a HUGE backlog.
He sure as hell pays taxes, but because he can't file a return, he never sees one dime of it back.
The hispanic population here has taken broken down neighborhoods and turned them into bustling business districts. They also take care of their homes, and have turned the near westside/downtown area into someplace I am not embarrassed to drive through.(unlike my ghetto-ass neighborhood on the near eastside. I believe in acting your wage, so I live cheaply in the ghetto)

I'm from Indy, and I could not care less about the "epidemic" of illegals. I haven't seen any Hispanic gangs roaming the streets or pregnant 12 years olds waddling through Walmart. I just see a bunch of people working hard to make it in this world.

Fat and Nasty 86: I just see a bunch of people working hard to make it in this world.

Exactly.

Dirtball: My sister, who teaches art elementary classes filled with Latino kids in Nashville would agree. Many of those kids are children of illegals/undocumented. Those kids pay attention in class, do their homework, are on time, and when it comes to parent teacher meetings/conferences, they may need a translator but they ALWAYS show and make sure that their kids are doing right.

I guess all those concerned parents are why the Latino drop out rate is (according to whom you read, and the year):

* At 21 percent, the national Latino high school dropout rate is more than twice the national average at 10 percent. (PewHispanic.Org, 2000)

* Counting only Latinos who dropped out after engaging the American education system yields a rate of about 15 percent among 16- to 19-year-olds. That is good news. The bad news is that this dropout rate is twice as high as the dropout rate for comparable non-Hispanic whites. Further on the positive side, this report finds that the dropout rate for Latinos in U.S. schools is improving as it has been for non-Latinos. (PewHispanic.Org, 2003)

And a clue to what may also be happening with your sister's school, besides parents, specifically in California:

* The California Department of Education released a report detailing how the true(er) drop-out rate for California's high school students stands at 24 percent. What was not so interesting was the breakdown by ethnicities: The new data revealed high dropout rates for minority students: 41.3 percent of black students, 31.3 percent of Native Americans, 30.3 percent of Hispanics, and 27.9 percent of Pacific Islanders. White students had a 15.2 percent dropout rate, while Asians had a 10.2 percent rate. In a separate article titled Why do Asian students generally get higher marks than Latinos?, students were brought together to talk about the racial achievement gap. What was revealed is that certain students were expected to do better, while others were not. I'm not talking about parental expectations but faculty expectations. (Latinalista.net, 2008)

I have my own story, dirtbear. My story is that my sister is a concerned parent, but she has to pull teeth to get anything done for her two sons. She has been lied to, she has been ignored, she has had to go above and beyond just to get basic paperwork and find out how her sons are doing academically, she has had the school lose track of where one of her sons were during the day.

My other story is that my mom was a teacher of special needs children in Indianapolis. She would tell me stories of how divided THE TEACHERS would be, in how they acted towards children. If you were a white child, white teachers were more likely to be forgiving of a child who was acting out, and attempt to 'reason' with the child, soothe the child, be understanding towards the child. If there were also black children in the class (particularly male), the black children would not get the soothing words and 'that's ok' and 'reasoning' that the white children would; they'd get anger, short tempers, frankly fear directed towards them.

All that to say, I completely agree with Latinalista's article on faculty expectations of students.

If your sister is one of the 'good teachers' who try to treat every child equally, I'm happy, because your sister is a rare bird indeed. If your sister, however, is one of those teachers going with the flow of what's easiest, and perpetuating the cycle of expectations becoming reality in an unequal manner -- she's part of the problem. Which is she?


Also, what does your sister have to say about what happens to her students once they get older, given the drop out rate, in spite of what she sees as involved parents?

AmandaHobear: I'm IN Indy, rather.



/does not approve

kennedy311: Sutpen's Hundred: I think just about every cabbie in Nashville is Somalian or Ethiopian. Some great Ethiopian and Indian restaurants around.

Also the area of town "Little Mexico" and La Carniceria and El Supermercado.

You're right about the cabbies. Dead on. And I work in the area where a lot of those Mexican Restaurants are. There's a place on Nolensville near the Zoo that turned an old gas station into a Mexican place. Even the awning that covered the pumps was turned into a patio. Awesome food, too.

I live about a mile from that place. Most of the taco stands in the area are pretty good.

I went to Gojo Ethiopian restaurant on Friday. It's on Thompson lane near the corner of Nolensville, across from the Krispy Kreme. They've got a lunch buffet that's fantastic and reasonably priced.

As for Indian, I like Sitar, but the health department score-card was in the low 70s a few months ago when I went. Cuisine of India on 21st wasn't as good when I tried it, but it's cheaper. Shalimar near Green Hills mall is good, but expensive. I haven't been to the place downtown on Church St.

Istanbul Cafe on Nolensville north of Thompson is my favorite place to grab a gyro or falafel plate.

Dirtball: bighairyguy: They have their own superheroes too?

You bet your ass they do

You forgot El Supermercado:


/Mucho quicko y dirtyo

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Also, what does your sister have to say about what happens to her students once they get older, given the drop out rate, in spite of what she sees as involved parents?

Whoa dude. All I said is my sister teaches kids of Latino descent in art elementary classes (K-6) and is very happy with their work ethic and parent involvement. And that's all I have to say, or know on the subject.

That rant was, wow.

bighairyguy: StormDawg: They all have Gannett newspapers?

As does the city you live in. Coincidence?

Not much of a coincidence, as the Gannett paper in my town is the reason I moved here. :)

kennedy311: There's an pizzeria in my neighborhood here in Nashville that's run by a Mediterranean family. Italian, Sicilian, I'm not sure. But their pizza is unbelievable. Had some last night for the UT/TTU game.
As for other foreign dishes, I'm not so sure. I've heard there are a couple of places to get Ethiopian food here.

Isn't take-out from an Ethiopian food place an empty box?

AmandaHobear: I'm IN Indy

I've been to Indy a few times for conventions, and I'll say that the city does pretty well for visitors. The food's good and cheaper than most big cities. There's plenty of hotel space. The kid's museum is pretty awesome when they don't unload a hundred busses of rugrats at once.

Now, Indiana outside of Indy, frightens me. And a flaming bag of dicks down the throat of whomever decided that trucks have to drive slower than the rest of traffic. A semi trying to pass another semi makes for the most godawful traffic jam.

Fat and Nasty 86: I just see a bunch of people working hard to make it in this world.

No stuff - locally I had a tech working for me that was a VERY hard worker, as well as his future wife. His family came from south of the border and bought a house in the worst slum in the area. His family rebuilt the house, when there was a wedding, bought the next house over, rebuilt it for the couple, repeat many, many times (I helped bcause I had a truck at that time and they didn;t always have access to one). They built up the area to the extent that crime was way down, insurance rates went way down, and the former residents were screaming mad and tried a federal lawsuit over the fact that they could not afford the homes they were living in due to the upgraded area. I'm sorry - but if you work hard and improve the area - you rock! You scream about entitlements and sit on your behind - up yours.....

bighairyguy:

Man I don't think I want to know what La Carniceria looks like...

StormDawg: bighairyguy: StormDawg: They all have Gannett newspapers?

As does the city you live in. Coincidence?

Not much of a coincidence, as the Gannett paper in my town is the reason I moved here. :)

So you work for me then?

Driver: kennedy311: There's an pizzeria in my neighborhood here in Nashville that's run by a Mediterranean family. Italian, Sicilian, I'm not sure. But their pizza is unbelievable. Had some last night for the UT/TTU game.
As for other foreign dishes, I'm not so sure. I've heard there are a couple of places to get Ethiopian food here.

Isn't take-out from an Ethiopian food place an empty box?

Couple grains of rice in the box actually. And a fly.

StormDawg: They all have Gannett newspapers?

You win.

If you're a fan of Indian food and in Indy, try Heera (new window) (poppity map/yahoo YP)

as a former (4 year) resident of Indiana -
Nuke the top 1/3 of the state. The rest is decent with very interesting people. (Do a greyhound from Bloomington to Chicago that is on the local rural route sometime to get a real slice of reality). That was meant as a positive - decent people who believe in things that I wish were still the standard. Anti-crime, help your neighbor, etc. Go ahead and snark.

I thought Ethiopian food was a myth.

We also have one of the largest if not the largest population of Kurds in the US too in Nashville.

Also Fat Mo's FTW

dionysusaur: If you're a fan of Indian food and in Indy, try Heera (new window) (poppity map/yahoo YP)

So I take it that means there's no good Indian food in Indy?