This woman is farking nuts.

Ahahaha. I think we are just starting to figure out what kind of pyscho biatch that John McCain has unleashed on the Republican party. Good luck not being associated with this woman for the next 20 years.

John McCain: "She's not the sharpest knife in my back"

She told her staffers to take down all of the McCain signs after receiving a phone call from a man identifying himself as "Haywood Jablowmie, President of the Republican Society for Republican Candidates." He said to her, "Mr. McCain has been pranking you for the last 2 months. In actuality, YOU are the Republican presidential candidate."

DamnYankees: This woman is farking nuts.

I am very curious to see what happens to the Republican party after this election. I think the whole Big Tent idea of about to fold.

Hahaha... Non-story. Over-zealous congresscritter who wants to ride Palin's coattails without McCain bringing him down.

Edsel: Hahaha... Non-story. Over-zealous congresscritter who wants to ride Palin's coattails without McCain bringing him down.

That's actually what I was thinking, too.

DamnYankees: This woman is farking nuts.

Well, and this, too.

That's a pretty batshiat redneck part of Florida. Sounds like she was in her element.

falcon176: John McCain: "She's not the sharpest knife in my back"

nice

It really is disturbing how some McCain-ticket supporters just want her to get to Washington. They couldn't care less about him, but they love her. It really gets a Palin/McCain vibe after a while.

Oh Gad.

Chariset: It really is disturbing how some McCain-ticket supporters just want her to get to Washington. They couldn't care less about him, but they love her. It really gets a Palin/McCain vibe after a while.

One of the things that concerns me most about America is the number of people who think that there's nothing wrong with this country that can't be fixed by having HER run it.

The thing is, while I philosophically disagree with McCain supporters, I can understand why they would support him. If he were to be elected president, I could live with that; not happily, but I can survive.

Palin is a different story. I really cannot get into the head of anyone who believes Palin would be good for our country. At best, she's a small town political boss who made it as far as the governor of a sparsely populated state. At worst, she's a she-Hitler who wants to create a theocracy out of a quasi-democracy.

She scares me. People who deify Palin scare me. She may not win this election but unless the Republicans take back their party, we all will have to deal with pain and her ilk for generations to come.

HA HA, enjoy the future of your GOP, rednecks!

FredaDeStilleto: Palin is a different story. I really cannot get into the head of anyone who believes Palin would be good for our country.

Fundies.

That's it, man. Fundies. Unless you understand what it means to be a fundamentalist Christian, you won't get the Palin thing, I think.

yea, CNN had Obama's rally in Henderson here on tv but broke away to her rally.

wtf. I couldn;t make it out to Obama's this time, dammit.

It explains a lot that the 'base' should idolize Palin, a person even more intellectually incurious than Bush. It is as if they think that willful ignorance is a virtue, and prejudice a noble trait.

DamnYankees: That's it, man. Fundies. Unless you understand what it means to be a fundamentalist Christian, you won't get the Palin thing, I think.



I don't know if it's all Fundies. I spoke with this guy tonight at the Wine and Spirits store. He's a Ron Paul supporter. I said that Palin troubled me because she just didn't have the intelligence nor the objectivity to really lead the country. He disagreed. He thought the press was being unfair in their coverage of her. He felt she was intelligent enough, considering Bush, to lead the country if McCain should die in office. The guy isn't a Fundie - he's just some seemingly normal person (spare the Ron Paul jokes) who perceives Palin as a victim.

FredaDeStilleto: I don't know if it's all Fundies. I spoke with this guy tonight at the Wine and Spirits store. He's a Ron Paul supporter. I said that Palin troubled me because she just didn't have the intelligence nor the objectivity to really lead the country. He disagreed. He thought the press was being unfair in their coverage of her. He felt she was intelligent enough, considering Bush, to lead the country if McCain should die in office. The guy isn't a Fundie - he's just some seemingly normal person (spare the Ron Paul jokes) who perceives Palin as a victim.

Well, of course here are some people who aren't fundies who support her - some folks are just contrarian, or anti-intellectual, or flat out ignorant, but fundies are the anchor which makes her career possible. I would say they are a massive proportion of her support, far beyond even people like Bush, who also have the support of neocons.

DamnYankees: FredaDeStilleto: Palin is a different story. I really cannot get into the head of anyone who believes Palin would be good for our country.

Fundies.

That's it, man. Fundies. Unless you understand what it means to be a fundamentalist Christian, you won't get the Palin thing, I think.

I was afraid that it was religion taken to an extreme.

Dear GOP, how does a Pentecostal future (rapture) look?

Now be a good little god slave and clean my scrotum.

DamnYankees:

No doubt McCain brought her in because of the need to appeal to the fundamentalists. It's the one voting block that is reliable. Perhaps I didn't express myself as well as I should.

I understand that while the fundies are her anchor, she has the support of the anti-intellectual crowd. What really troubles me is that there are so many people who support her on that basis alone.

I never realized the out-in-out hatred that some Americans have for those that are educated. What happened here? Why is it wrong to pick up a book and read it? Why is it wrong to aspire to become a better educated person?

The fact that she uses religion as a means of ascent also bothers me. When did Christianity become the cornerstone for defining what is America?

FredaDeStilleto: What really troubles me is that there are so many people who support her on that basis alone.

I agree with you that its troubling. But I think the isn't "there are too many Palin supporters". The issue is "there are too many extreme fundamentalist Christians".

This is my atheist side coming through, but I find the support for Palin not remotely surprising in that light.

FredaDeStilleto: I never realized the out-in-out hatred that some Americans have for those that are educated. What happened here? Why is it wrong to pick up a book and read it? Why is it wrong to aspire to become a better educated person?

I don't think the GOP or Conservatism is inherently anti-intellectual at all. I think they have just made decisions which force them to adopt an anti-intellectual position in order to justify themselves. Conservatism has a great long history of intellectual heft, but when you nominate people like Palin and GWB, anti-intellectualism must be argued in order to besmirch reality.

FredaDeStilleto: She may not win this election but unless the Republicans take back their party, we all will have to deal with pain and her ilk for generations to come

Conversely, all the moderate (read: fiscal conservative, social moderate and non-theocrat) Republicans could jump ship and join the Libertarian Party and leave the Republican Party as the exclusive domain of the theocrats and social conservatives. 2012 could be the first time since 1852 where someone other than the Republican Party was the main opponent of the Democratic Party, and the Republican Party would become a "third party" like the Green Party, the current Libertarian Party and the Socialist Workers' Party.

Obama/Biden(D) vs Romney/Crist(L) vs Palin/Wurzelbacher(R) in 2012?

___________

PS - since I brought up the "S" word in this post, allow me to point out that Sweden is a socialist nation.

King Something: Obama/Biden(D) vs Romney/Crist(L) vs Palin/Wurzelbacher(R) in 2012?

What in gods name makes you think Mitt Romney is either a moderate or a libertarian?

DamnYankees:

I agree that the real Republican Party is not anti-intellectual. Going back in my own head (without googling or wiki-ing) it seems that Nixon was the forefather of the anti-intellectual movement within the party. Goldwater seemed the antithesis of Nixon.

The fundies seemed to breath life into the party after Nixon's resignation; they were able to create a base for rebuilding the GOP. The fundie stranglehold has been ignored, although threatened during the Bush years. It seems to be reaching a climax during this election; it's a do or die proposition. The troubling factor is that they are being supported by the anti-intellectual crowd. Perhaps unwittingly.

DamnYankees: King Something: Obama/Biden(D) vs Romney/Crist(L) vs Palin/Wurzelbacher(R) in 2012?

What in gods name makes you think Mitt Romney is either a moderate or a libertarian?

Maybe he's currently neither, but if my prediction comes to pass, he'd likely run against Obama on a ticket other than the Republicans. Let Caribou Barbie and Joe The Unlicensed Plumber and their ilk keep the R while still having a somewhat reasonable chance to get at least half of the EVs needed to win.

/Of course this is just speculation on my part
//I make no guarantees of any kind on any of the predictions I made in the post you quoted
///or this post
////slashies

falcon176: John McCain: "She's not the sharpest knife in my back"

That's chock full of WIN...I feel awed and blessed to have read that.

FredaDeStilleto: I agree that the real Republican Party is not anti-intellectual.

No. They are. I really hate this 'real GOP' nonsense. The GOP is what it is. There's no 'real' and 'fake' GOP. It is what it is.

What I said was that the GOP doesn't have to be racist - there's nothing about it which makes it a required trait. But the GOP, the real one, is anti-intellectual.

King Something:Conversely, all the moderate (read: fiscal conservative, social moderate and non-theocrat) Republicans could jump ship and join the Libertarian Party ....

Perhaps. Either way, the Republican party has to definitively redefine itself - it cannot possibly continue as a viable party in such a fractured state.

DamnYankees: What I said was that the GOP doesn't have to be racist - there's nothing about it which makes it a required trait. But the GOP, the real one, is anti-intellectual.

Whoa. Dunno why I typed 'racist' there.

Well...if the shoe fits.

DamnYankees: DamnYankees: What I said was that the GOP doesn't have to be racist - there's nothing about it which makes it a required trait. But the GOP, the real one, is anti-intellectual.

Whoa. Dunno why I typed 'racist' there.

Well...if the shoe fits.

That's the thing... the Republican party isn't as much racist as anti-nonchristian.

/and anti-intellectual

Ace Frehley's Ghost: That's the thing... the Republican party isn't as much racist as anti-nonchristian.

Pretty easy to be both.

Damn Yankees: But the GOP, the real one, is anti-intellectual.

I disagree. While the Republicans have shown a disdain for the professorial type of intellectual, they have not discarded the "cultivated mind" as evidenced by the penultimate conservative, William Buckley. What the GOP has always been attracted to has been social class warfare.

FredaDeStilleto: they have not discarded the "cultivated mind" as evidenced by the penultimate conservative, William Buckley.

Name one. You know, in the current GOP.

What do you mean? Intellectuals in the party?

FredaDeStilleto: What do you mean? Intellectuals in the party?

Yes. Name me an intellectual who actually has influence in the GOP. Actual smart people who haven't totally subjugated themselves to ideology and party dogma.

Seems to me most of the 'intellectual' Republicans have turned on their own party this year.

falcon176: John McCain: "She's not the sharpest knife in my back"

WIN

DamnYankees: Ace Frehley's Ghost: That's the thing... the Republican party isn't as much racist as anti-nonchristian.

Pretty easy to be both.

Oh, there's definitely a racist element, but if that's all there was, Bobby Jindal wouldn't be the governor of Louisiana.

As I've said before, your garden variety GOP voter (in the less than six digit earning range) will drive by a Korean Baptist church and say, "Isn't that wonderful?" but will protest a planned Buddhist temple in their neighborhood.

I don't disagree with you, in fact that was the point I was trying to make: that the Republican Party of the past, while showing disdain for East Coast intellectuals, still attracted the likes of Buckley etal. The current Republican Party has stepped beyond that and has become so entrenched with theological dogma and class warfare that the intellectuals that remained loyal to the party jumped ship. (David Friedman, Chris Buckley, Christopher Hitchens, to name a few)

There remains only a name. The ideology is gone.

falcon176: John McCain: "She's not the sharpest knife in my back"

You, sir, may just have won the contest for the best quip of this entire election.
I bow to your wit.

A lot of Republicans have spouted off anti-intellectual rhetoric. What makes Palin so scary is that she actually puts it into practice. Even Dubya reads the newspaper.

FredaDeStilleto: I don't disagree with you, in fact that was the point I was trying to make: that the Republican Party of the past, while showing disdain for East Coast intellectuals, still attracted the likes of Buckley etal. The current Republican Party has stepped beyond that and has become so entrenched with theological dogma and class warfare that the intellectuals that remained loyal to the party jumped ship. (David Friedman, Chris Buckley, Christopher Hitchens, to name a few)

Ah ok. What you said upthread was that there were still intellectuals in the party. I don't disagree there used to be, even if I think their ideas are dumb.

FredaDeStilleto: There remains only a name. The ideology is gone.

There's still an ideology, it's just a different one.

Damn Yankees: I reread the comment I made that triggered your response. What I was referring to, in that post, were the Buckley's Friedman's etc of the GOP that are the real flag-bearers. The abomination that has been created under the Bush/McCain GOP is a different party using the name "Republican".

Now That's What I Call a Taco!: Even Dubya reads the newspaper.

No he doesn't. This was a news story a few years ago.

: Who are you to define who the Republicans are? George W. Bush and Sarah Palin are the Republican party in my opinion.


They are the new Republican Party.

Remove all Republicans: Who are you to define who the Republicans are? George W. Bush and Sarah Palin are the Republican party in my opinion.

This. The fundies aint gonna go away. The neocons know enough business to realize that giving up a name brand is dangerous.

The moderates, the centrists, the fiscal conservatives and the libertarians that have been calling themselves Republicans are the real RINO's. They are going to have to start their own party and not cave and vote for Republican candidates if they want to redirect where the Right is headed.

Or find one really great, Obama-class candidate to wow the Philistines.

DamnYankees: This woman is farking nuts.


Seconded

I think she is working on a plan to off McCain in his first year in the very unlikely event he wins on Tuesday.