The most speeches with no one listening.

Good for him.
I can't wait until the day when the 2 party system ends. Perhaps then we'll have politicians who work for what the people want, and not what the money wants.

While I'm at it, I want $1 billion, the state of Florida to secede, and a pony.

RandomExcess: The most speeches with no one listening.

Actually, since it's for Guinness, there HAS to be someone there.

Which will be an entirely new feeling for Nadar, I'm sure. :-)

Well he has to do something to get media coverage

taoistlumberjak: Good for him.
I can't wait until the day when the 2 party system ends. Perhaps then we'll have politicians who work for what the people want, and not what the money wants.

While I'm at it, I want $1 billion, the state of Florida to secede, and a pony.

THIS.

/It wasn't Nader who did the damage 8 years ago
//It was Democrats who voted for Bush
///So give it a rest
////Not a Naderite
//Slashies!

I was wondering where he was lately.

After counting the woefully-underpaid Guinness official, expect a press release from the Nader campaign trumpeting the "One hundred percent increase in attendance."

I agree we need to break the two party system, and I admire Nader for trying to do that. I also love the fact that he wants to disbar the Senate. The idea that Wyoming (pop. 522,8830) gets the exact same representation as California (pop. 36,553,215) is insane. There's a difference in 36 Million between the two states populations.

That being said, Barack Obama is probably the best Democratic Preisdental candidate in a long long time, and they both probably agree on a lot, so Ralph needs to put the ego aside and STFD and STFU.

Wyoming's population is 522,883, not 522,8830, obviously. Whatever. Shut up. I hate you.

Well, crap. I'll drive my vintage '59 Corvair right over to that speech.

organizm: The idea that Wyoming (pop. 522,8830) gets the exact same representation as California (pop. 36,553,215) is insane. There's a difference in 36 Million between the two states populations.

Let me guess... You weren't exactly at the top of your class were you?

He's gonna cheese off all those environmentalists cutting down all those trees just for the stumps.

Impotently running for president over and over again isn't fighting the two party system. It's just attention whoring. When a third party gets smart enough to drop their presidential runs and focus on growing local support into an eventual national movement then I'll consider voting for them. Until then it's just a waste.

Nader still the most hated man in America.

odinsposse: Impotently running for president over and over again isn't fighting the two party system. It's just attention whoring. When a third party gets smart enough to drop their presidential runs and focus on growing local support into an eventual national movement then I'll consider voting for them. Until then it's just a waste.

multiple parties can only come from a schism of one of the larger parties. It's highly unlikely that someone will come around and magically form a new party.

I'm betting on a New Centrist party forming when the democrats split. Then you can look forward to the fun of the plurality and minority governments.

Congrats Nader on the most column inches you'll be patronizingly given this election cycle.

I actually like Nader. However, every time I think about the 3rd party paradox (vote counts in a swing state vs. shaking things up)...his ugly-ass, circa 2000 image enters my brain. And then I hate the guy for being a, well, for being a gadfly. The guy has the same effect of Perot, except it WON'T DIE.

What a cunning stunt

organizm: I agree we need to break the two party system, and I admire Nader for trying to do that. I also love the fact that he wants to disbar the Senate. The idea that Wyoming (pop. 522,8830) gets the exact same representation as California (pop. 36,553,215) is insane. There's a difference in 36 Million between the two states populations.

That being said, Barack Obama is probably the best Democratic Preisdental candidate in a long long time, and they both probably agree on a lot, so Ralph needs to put the ego aside and STFD and STFU.

I see, the 2 party system needs to be broken except for times when the Democrats have the pimp hand, and of course never while the Republicans have the pimp hand either.

/vote third party

The third parties are basically lobbyists you can vote for. I'm a Green but I know they'll never win big. My interest is to keep them ALIVE so they can continue to generate an alternative platform.

I'll look at that platform, pick out the best stuff, and pitch it to the Democrats, who actually DO have some power. If the Dems take bits and pieces of that Green platform and put it into action, the Greens do not necessarily need to be in power themselves. If the policy is implemented, who cares who does it?

(This also works for the Libertarians, Constitution Party and any other third you care to name.)

Brilliant!

More than two parties can only exist when the system is set to not favor just the first two and screw any thirds.

Dupa:
I see, the 2 party system needs to be broken except for times when the Democrats have the pimp hand, and of course never while the Republicans have the pimp hand either.


I doubt it's just Democrats. I doubt you would have seen that written if Hillary had won the primaries.

Mr. Coffee Nerves: After counting the woefully-underpaid Guinness official, expect a press release from the Nader campaign trumpeting the "One hundred percent increase in attendance."

Wondering whom your counting, as that would be an infinite rise in percentage attending, wouldn't it?

Dupa: organizm: I agree we need to break the two party system, and I admire Nader for trying to do that. I also love the fact that he wants to disbar the Senate. The idea that Wyoming (pop. 522,8830) gets the exact same representation as California (pop. 36,553,215) is insane. There's a difference in 36 Million between the two states populations.

That being said, Barack Obama is probably the best Democratic Preisdental candidate in a long long time, and they both probably agree on a lot, so Ralph needs to put the ego aside and STFD and STFU.

I see, the 2 party system needs to be broken except for times when the Democrats have the pimp hand, and of course never while the Republicans have the pimp hand either.

/vote third party

Also, about the Senate, Nader could rail against equal representaition, but it wouldn't make the least bit of difference, as it is prohibited in the Constitution to remove equal representation in the Senate via amendment. Something like 'no state shall deprived of equal representation in the Senate without their consent.' Not happening. But still, messed up.

I do, however, agree with organizm here, in that Obama is not a 'lesser of two evils' candidate. He seems to be both smart, honest, and competent, a combination we have not seen in a candidate since *last year with honest, smart, and competent candidate*.

If I'm right in gauging organizm, it's not a partisan bias. If the Republicans had a candidate which could be described as "best Republican Preisdential candidate in a long long time," (and it wasn't merely a relative term given their company in recent Republican history), then I imagine that organizm might be looking at him. I probably would.

Of course, I could be *way* off with my character evaluation.

Add lowest attendance at those speeches to the list of records. I voted for him in 2000 because I didn't like Bush or Gore, but this guy has proven to be a major douche.

Ralph Nader did his damage 8 years ago.

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