CSM is usually is really good in their articles.

What is conspiratorial about that article, laissezfairemitter? Unfettered greed has farked up the entire planet -- something even Bush cannot deny -- and now they are going to try and fix it. It won't work, but I don't see any great conspiracy.


/BTW, if you mix peanut butter -- smooth, not chunky -- with those shiny tinfoil strips that people hang on Christmas trees, you can get a much superior tinfoil hat, and it also keeps your scalp moist and dandruff-free.

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oldebayer: What is conspiratorial about that article, laissezfairemitter?

I think you mean plutocratmitter

don't panic

we have everything under control

Found a picture of subby:

Outside of the huge subscription cost, I have no issues with the CSM or their reporting. Worst thing that ever happened to them was the manglkement many years ago that thought that a video only service was the way to go and ate up most of theor resources promoting that jaded vision. 15+ years from then, yes. But not back when only people with BUDs (Big Ugly Dishes) like me were able to get the channel.

bicentennialman: oldebayer: What is conspiratorial about that article, laissezfairemitter?

I think you mean plutocratmitter

You watch your mouth.

I don't see a conspiracy here, and in fact i predicted something like this happening. The world is being taken down by greed on Wall Street... it's only logical that they would want to be less dependent on the US economy/financial system.

Everyone needs to brush up on their Huxley. Like, now.

Nothing in this article is tinfoily. We're likely going to see some kind of Bretton Woods-like scenario in the coming years.

So submitter, these meetings are going to happen. I don't see any conspiracy theory being transmitted by the Christian Science Monitor.

Yes, what happens at the meetings will be fodder for Alex Jones, et. al., which frankly is fine with me, because I have great doubts in results coming out that protect the common man and that don't instead protect enormous corporations and quasi-governmental organizations.

And thank god Bush will have little to do with it. As far as I am concerned, it's a shame these meetings will take place while he is still in office.

I am hopeful the first meetings will be shifted to Spain or some other country that could arrest the farker.

I don't see anything tinfoil hat worthy in the article.

They don't claim that any sinister powers planned for things to end up this way and they don't propose any conspiracy theories to explain anything. They just describe what is happening right now and what it means.

While Christian Scientist tend to be out there the CSM is actually among the most professional and integer publications in the US (Not that there is too much competition in that area these days).

Kode707: Found a picture of subby:

To be fair, was under duress.

Loki-L: integer publications

I'm relieved! For a moment, I thought there'd be a complex number amount of publications in the US.

Thank goodness there's still only an integer value of publications.

/oh wait, the set of integers contain negative numbers! Could there be -3 publications in the world?

There was nothing tinfoil hat loony about that article. Don't let the name fool you. The Christian Science Monitor is one of a few bastions of journalism still in existence. All most all other media outlets are sensation and propaganda.

blackmoses: loved that album.

oldebayer: Unfettered greed has farked up the entire planet ... and now they are going to try and fix it.



The same group of people who have manipulated the financial markets and monetary system for several decades in order to bind us to debt and effectively enslave a large proportion of the Western population, will now try to "fix it"???? hahahaha....



"I care not what puppet is placed upon the throne of England to rule the Empire on which the sun never sets. The man who controls Britain's money supply controls the British Empire, and I control the British money supply." ~Nathan Mayer Rothschild

"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes the laws" ~Mayer Amschel Bauer, founder of the Rothschild family

uncoveror: There was nothing tinfoil hat loony about that article. Don't let the name fool you. The Christian Science Monitor is one of a few bastions of journalism still in existence. All most all other media outlets are sensation and propaganda.

This is true - despite the weirdness of the idea of a "Church of Christ, Scientist" their journalistic credentials are quite solid.

No tinfoil here, perhaps Saran Wrap or wax paper...

moralpanic The world is being taken down by greed on Wall Street...

Right. This "crisis" has nothing to do whatsoever with the ding dongs who just had to have that big house, and the ATVs, and the jet skis, and the boat, and the harley, all purchased with the second mortgage they figgered they'd just refi away when the house price went up again (whoops). Oh, and nothing to do whatsoever with people buying houses they could not afford with loans they didn't bother to understand (whoops). Let them all get foreclosed, let's go through this pain, and learn to save like the rest of the world does. Americans... no more cars on 5 year loans... no more houses with 1% interest rates that skyrocket up to 10%... no more buying shoes with a 24% rate credit card. Got that? You greedy bastards?

Yah, wall street is the LEAST of this problem people. It's YOU!

oldebayer: What is conspiratorial about that article, laissezfairemitter? Unfettered greed has farked up the entire planet -- something even Bush cannot deny -- and now they are going to try and fix it. It won't work, but I don't see any great conspiracy.

For years, so-called "conspiracy theorists" have been saying that a financial crisis of this sort was going to happen, and that the powers that be were going to try to blame it on the "free market". This is a major step towards the New World Order.

Ye old Pyramid of Capitalism



Modern day Pyramid of Capitalism

Skulll and Bones, Skull and Bones!!!

OTA BENGA: Ye old Pyramid of Capitalism

Modern day Pyramid of Capitalism

FAIL.

None of those people are watching "OW, My Balls!".

nonannystate: moralpanic The world is being taken down by greed on Wall Street...

Right. This "crisis" has nothing to do whatsoever with the ding dongs who just had to have that big house...

Economic policy is decided in a top-down sort of way. Not the other way around.

OTA BENGA: Ye old Pyramid of Capitalism



Modern day Pyramid of Capitalism

Depictions of kings in something criticizing capitalism just makes it absurd. Like all those farking religious bastards involved in communism. I hate them so much!

submitter is a farking dumbass with his head buried in the sand. Look at the shiat that has gone done since Sept 11, 2001. Tell me all the shiat hasn't added up to some Episode 3, Darth Sidious, conspiracy bullshiat.

On Sept 10, 2001 we were without war, had pretty much a non-socialist economy, and our Bill of Rights were intake. Look at were we are today.

So none of y'all are Coastees or Jim Mars / Alex Jones listeners? How am I gonna sell my hats?

I think it's very likely that governments will take a strong response that does not really solve the problem but lets those governments have more control.

As an atheist, even *I* find the Christian Science Monitor to be a damn find source of news. Submittard fails.

Barakku: Depictions of kings in something criticizing capitalism just makes it absurd.

The modern version of capitalism is an absurd farce. It is Capitalism in name only and would be better called Corporatism.

Death by Misadventure: submitter is a farking dumbass with his head buried in the sand. Look at the shiat that has gone done since Sept 11, 2001. Tell me all the shiat hasn't added up to some Episode 3, Darth Sidious, conspiracy bullshiat.

On Sept 10, 2001 we were without war, had pretty much a non-socialist economy, and our Bill of Rights were intake. Look at were we are today.

There was no episode 3. These are not the plotlines you're looking for.

Ignorant farker gets ignorant headline greenlit. More at 11

OTA BENGA: Barakku: Depictions of kings in something criticizing capitalism just makes it absurd.

The modern version of capitalism is an absurd farce. It is Capitalism in name only and would be better called Corporatism.

This I would agree with, neither are particularly good depictions of what should be capitalism, but politics ect has resulted in some retarded abuses of the system. See the supreme court ruling on eminent domain...

Hmmm. Trillions in sudden liabilities for every large government on earth and they might want to get together and rethink the system that has lead to disaster.
Cue the X-Files music, we got ourselves a live one!

Barakku: Death by Misadventure: submitter is a farking dumbass with his head buried in the sand. Look at the shiat that has gone done since Sept 11, 2001. Tell me all the shiat hasn't added up to some Episode 3, Darth Sidious, conspiracy bullshiat.

On Sept 10, 2001 we were without war, had pretty much a non-socialist economy, and our Bill of Rights were intake. Look at were we are today.

There was no episode 3. These are not the plotlines you're looking for.

Damn your rebuttal with a Star Wars Quote. DAMN YOU!!!!

You mean the govenments were in on the financial bail-outs all along? even while the US congress approved a bunch of money, and the eu parliament too (about twice the money actually), the governments were pulling the strings? I'm shocked!

FTFA: When President Bush hosts a world financial summit in the coming weeks, one of the least multilateral American presidents in decades will set in motion what could result in a full reordering of the global financial system.

I have a feeling that there isn't a chance in hell the rest of the world is going to let our water-headed, failure of a president reorder shiat for them.

My extended family is Seventh Day Adventist. I am not and I do not subscribe to their newsletter.

I was talking to my sister the other day about this financial crap-storm that's going on. She said "Well, you know this is the sign of the End Times, right?"

Considering my family trots that out every time there is a fire, flood, famine or war, it wasn't much of a surprise.

I was sort of expecting that kind of article when I clicked this link. I was disappointed.

Death by Misadventure submitter is a farking dumbass with his head buried in the sand. Look at the shiat that has gone done since Sept 11, 2001. Tell me all the shiat hasn't added up to some Episode 3, Darth Sidious, conspiracy bullshiat.

On Sept 10, 2001 we were without war, had pretty much a non-socialist economy, and our Bill of Rights were intake. Look at were we are today.

I think that submitter agrees with you. "Conspiracy theorists heard chuckling in the background" seems to be a reference to the fact that "conspiracy theorists" predicted the current crisis, and have been talking about the New World Order for years.

AFAI understand it, the main problem this time is a huge mess up of the FED after 9/11 and low interest rates, congress blackmailing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac into giving credits to almost everybody to sponsor homeowning (but without direct state intervention, that would be most un-American and un-Repulican) and of course people who feed of the system. This means: Lots of the crap was instigated by the government or by semi-governmental institutions like FED and Fanny Mae etc. So why blame "capitalism" if it was once again statism?

I've noted a spike in articles from FARK pointing out the desire for greater government control in people's lives, new interest in socialism, and fibrillations of interest in communism. This is most disturbing, especially since most of the younger generation has no idea of the horrors of what happened under those regimes. In 1917 Russia at least a desire for communism if nothing else was understandable, people were starving in the streets while millions died in a war that constricted supplies while an exceptionally small minority lived opulent lives under autocratic rule. There were virtually no freedoms, very little means of expression, and brutal conditions all around.

Unfortunately there seems to be a trend towards having government run more and more of people's lives again. Europeans started gaining interest in larger government decades ago, now with the economic difficultues in the US people are doing the same. Now Europe wants to have a hand in rearranging global financial laws, and tinfoil hats aside this should at least raise our curiosity. I find it difficult to believe that so many people are having such financial troubles when they still have cell phones, multiple cars, multiple TV sets, live well beyond their means, and are only willing to work so hard to get what they want. There are some people out there who are in real need, but it should not be the place of government to solve all of their problems.

Our economic woes and financial trouble are largely our own fault, through failure to make the larger companies play by the existing rules and buying out bad mortagages from banks who made loans they never should have made in the first place. We do not need a global reassembly, we need enforcement of existing laws and a Congress who is willing to cut the fat to balance the budget. If we choose to vote for Congressmen who are not willing to cut pork spending, trim social programs, and reduce military spending, then we have only ourselves to blame.

/tired of government trying to run people's lives
//if you vote for only one party instead of what you think the candidate will do, you deserve what you get if they run the show (into the ground)
///worries about what this country will look like at the end of the next administration regardless of who wins

Monophtalmos: AFAI understand it, the main problem this time is a huge mess up of the FED after 9/11 and low interest rates, congress blackmailing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac into giving credits to almost everybody to sponsor homeowning (but without direct state intervention, that would be most un-American and un-Repulican) and of course people who feed of the system. This means: Lots of the crap was instigated by the government or by semi-governmental institutions like FED and Fanny Mae etc. So why blame "capitalism" if it was once again statism?

So do you wear the shiny side inside or outside? I've never figured that out.

See, this is what happens when people get their financial news from Hank Williams III...

/credit default swaps, look it up, dummy