What unbelievable band. Diamond Darell was on his way to being a guitar god. RIP Dime

I ♥ Phil Anselmo.

Christi: I ♥ Phil Anselmo.

The heroine issues killed this band. He was a perfect front man though. Talk about four guys born to do what they did!

RIP Dimebag

Not only one of the greatest guitarists, but all around amazing fun loving dude.

Most overrated band in metal. Boring, boring music. My heart still goes out to Dimebag and his family though.

My first concert ever was Pantera/Biohazard/Neurosis at LC Walker arena in Muskegon, MI in 1996. I got to meet Pantera after the show and got my shirt signed by the band.

/I miss Dimebag

Just watched an old Behind the Muzak on these guys. I enjoyed it and enjoyed being reminded of how badass these guys were when they hit it.

Phil Anselmo = male Sasha Grey?

Seriously, they both look stoned all the time.

Saw them open for the Suicida; Tendancies/Exodus show in NYC.

I then escorted Dime to the post-party show.

I wish I could remember more of that night now!

I'm FarkinHostile, and I approve of this thread.



/We're taking over this town.

/cowboys from hell and later == awesome
//before == never heard anything, don't want to

I remember them in the 80s here in Dallas when they were a Warrant/Poison type "hair" band.

Never liked them.

Worst guitar tone I have ever heard.

Christi: I ♥ Phil Anselmo.

Great band, but Phil is a douchebag.

Lamb of God has done a pretty good job of filling the niche Pantera occupied in Metal.

I question if Pantera really has the experience and skills required to be effective Moscovian administrators.

Kliffoth: Most overrated band in metal. Boring, boring music. My heart still goes out to Dimebag and his family though.

I can't stand 'em. They did more to fark up metal than the grunge movement did.

Pantera were one of the bands that got me hooked on metal. Dimebag was a phenomenal guitar player and the music industry as a whole lost a good man when he died.

With that being said, some of the...more zealous hero worship is a little unnecessary. Yes, there was no denying his talent and there is the fact that he influenced an entire generation of wannabe guitar heroes, but he's dead. We don't need the commemorative guitars, amps, pedals, shot glasses, bicycle shorts, etc. Stop beating the dead horse.

/And Vinnie needs to find himself a better bunch of musicians to play with.
//Hellyeah? Hellno.

Oh no, a Pantera thread. Oh well, now all the "true" metalheads can come and say:

- they used to be hair band

- dimebag used to be diamond darrel HAHAHA LOLZ

- Pantera is overrated

- OMGZ!!!! they like totally ripped off Exhorder!!!!


Hating Pantera, all the cool guys are doing it!


Now playing: Suffocation - Infecting the crypts.

I distinctly recall seeing the vid for CFH, and not having heard anything quite like it beforehand...

I was fortunate enough to have seen them 4x live. Their headliner at Roseland Ballroom (for the Vulgar Display tour) was epic. Except for White Zombie opening, who sucked.

Later on, you could quickly see the band starting to unravel as they got on in the years. I don't think there was anyone who could match them for live intensity when they were firing on all cylinders though.

Kali-Yuga:
Lamb of God has done a pretty good job of filling the niche Pantera occupied in Metal.

'As the Palaces Burn' and 'Ashes of the Wake' are both good... I just lost interest after that. I've seen them 2x live, and the sound was beyond horrendous both times.

cabritosaurio: Oh no, a Pantera thread. Oh well, now all the "true" metalheads can come and say.

They're just not KVLT enough!

Great_Milenko: I can't stand 'em. They did more to fark up metal than the grunge movement did.

You meant hair metal, right?

Also:
death to false metal.gif

I remember meeting Darrell when I was in college and telling him that I knew they were going to make it big.

Next time I saw him they were opening up for Black Sabbath- he remembered me and told me I was right- then poured me a Black Tooth Grin.

Kali-Yuga: cabritosaurio: Oh no, a Pantera thread. Oh well, now all the "true" metalheads can come and say.

They're just not KVLT enough!

Nor br00tal enough \m/

LewDux: Great_Milenko: I can't stand 'em. They did more to fark up metal than the grunge movement did.

You meant hair metal, right?

Also:
death to false metal.gif

THIS

Hair-metal died, metal music in general was never that popular to begin with.

mofroe: Pantera/Biohazard/Neurosis

I came

FarkinHostile: I'm FarkinHostile, and I approve of this thread.

I'm Teddyballgame and I approve of your name. And place of residence! RI TF Metal Heads!

I had Power Metal on cassette back in '88
The title track got some play the Metal Zone.
It kicked ass.

/Metal Nerd
//RIP Dr Metal

Screw the heavy Metal go for the Leningrad Cowboys in concert with the Red Army Choir. Sweet Home Alabama for the win.

Thats an 827: Screw the heavy Metal go for the Leningrad Cowboys in concert with the Red Army Choir. Sweet Home Alabama for the win.

Wow, wake me up when those Finns cover something with the character Pantera created. They weren't heavy metal, but heavy riff-rock power section with solos and a lead singer who could yell, growl, write decent words...well, the end of GSTK & then Steel were pretty metal...How many cows does Finland have anyway? Not enough to have CFH, methinks.

I think what a lot of people fail to realize is these guys got as big as they did with the grunge movement pumping on all cylinders. I still remember seeing Pantera/White Zombie in '96. 10,000 people attended at an outdoor venue outside Pittsburgh, PA. Can't deny that kind of following during that period of music.

That being said, no much Pantera in my rotation these days.

/Been listening to too much PSBWB, if thats even possible.

In my experience, any random guy wearing a Pantera t-shirt has about a 95% probability of being a total asshole.

/Not scientific.

How about before they hit the scene?
I saw them in 1985 in Killeen at the Woodstock nightclub.
I remember them playing some Iron Maiden, VH, Sabbath, and taking requests.
A groan went through the crowd the first time they said they were going to play something they wrote.
The first time only.

/Obligatory Ft. Hood sux

Great_Milenko: Kliffoth: Most overrated band in metal. Boring, boring music. My heart still goes out to Dimebag and his family though.

I can't stand 'em. They did more to fark up metal than the grunge movement did.

You have an Insane Clown Posse reference in your login and you are complaining that Pantera farked up metal?! I mean what the fark are you talking about for Jesus farking Christ sake man pull your head out of your ass and start listening to the music you have playing in the back ground. I mean if you listen to ICP you are no longer allowed to criticize anyone else. I mean that with everything. You are no longer aloud to say anything bad about anyone or anything. I mean you listen to ICP.

cabritosaurio: metal music in general was never that popular to begin with

CAn I have some of whatever it is your smoking? Metal, not buttrock ala Poison or Warrant, was huge. The real metal bands from the 80s still sell out shows today. Look at Iron Maiden or Judas Priest.

As far as Pantera, I considered them the beginning of nu-metal. They had some good songs and Far Beyond Driven is a great album, but they weren't true metal. I saw them open for Skid Row once. Pantera was alright, mostly due to Dimebag's shredding, but SR put on a better show.

DOWN
\m/

...that is all

/big BIG PanterA fan
//long live the smoke...

rbabe1485: Great_Milenko: Kliffoth: Most overrated band in metal. Boring, boring music. My heart still goes out to Dimebag and his family though.

I can't stand 'em. They did more to fark up metal than the grunge movement did.

You have an Insane Clown Posse reference in your login and you are complaining that Pantera farked up metal?! I mean what the fark are you talking about for Jesus farking Christ sake man pull your head out of your ass and start listening to the music you have playing in the back ground. I mean if you listen to ICP you are no longer allowed to criticize anyone else. I mean that with everything. You are no longer aloud to say anything bad about anyone or anything. I mean you listen to ICP.

I'm listening to Rush right now. Eat a dick.

As for the milenko username, I just picked it to piss off the squares.

Dimebag Darrell is one of the few men who can play three scales on three different albums that are all based in the same two root keys and still make nineteen albums that don't all sound alike.

\m/

RIP dude.

rbabe1485, bless your soul. You read my mind.
Great_Milenko- pissing off the squares? Really? I mean, really? And saying you listen to Rush is not helping things, either. Rush is for losers who can't man up and listen to truly experimental music. You can claim musical superiority when you actually develop something called taste. Go buy the first three records of The Stooges, The MC5 and Funkadelic. Listen to them and then kill yourself from the shame, knowing that you actually wasted your life listening to Rush and ICP.

If you think Pantera is boring, you really don't know what you're talking about. They were amazing, heavy and brutal. I admit I'm a recent convert. When Dimebag died (which occurred three blocks from my house) I really was ambivalent. Not saying he's the godlike genius people make him out to be, but he wrote some pretty sick riffs.

Anyone else think their Behind the Music made Phil look like a dick? All those clips of Vinnie Paul (douchebag) complaining about his side projects and never mentioning Rebel Meets Rebel. Vinnie even complains about calling him up to record and Phil was too busy because he was preparing his house for an incoming hurricane.

/Phil Anselmo = Awesome due.
//If only for bailing Mike Williams out of jail after Hurricane Katrina.
///Eyehategod is the greatest metal band ever.

Whatthefark:
As far as Pantera, I considered them the beginning of nu-metal. They had some good songs and Far Beyond Driven is a great album, but they weren't true metal. I saw them open for Skid Row once. Pantera was alright, mostly due to Dimebag's shredding, but SR put on a better show.

Not true metal... how very interesting. Do tell, what is 'true' metal anyhow?

I'd say that Korn / White Zombie are a lot more to blame for the start of 'nu' metal... but that's just me.

Pantera was one of the first (to me at least) heavier bands with widespread noteriety that figured out pretty quickly that slower = more intense than speed stuff.... and they did it at a time when an awful lot of acts were doing their best Slayer impersonation. I know that bands like Type O Negative brought things down even slower, to at times doom-metal sort of sounds, but they had never seemed to catch on quite in the same way.

Come to think of it, I would put my vote up for Machinehead as being the band who picked up where Pantera left off. Not nearly as flashy on guitar, but the sound is definitely in the same vein.

And oh yeah... this video kicks all sorts of ass... same show as the topic link, IIRC:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTR-tePa0Bg&feature=related

/you.. you make me hate myself.
//let freedom ring with the shotgun blast.

I remember what I was doing when 'Cowboys From Hell" came out.
I was listening to listening to "Seasons in the Abyss", "Rust in Peace", Trouble's first record and still jamming, Iron Maiden, Witchfinder General, St. Vitus, and Candlemass...and smoking copius amounts of weed.

I remember seeing some kid wearing a Pantera shirt as he waited for him mom to pick him up from the mall.

My lawn
Get off it.

TeddyBallGame:The heroine issues killed this band.

What, they were waiting for their knight in shining armor?

Great_Milenko: Kliffoth: Most overrated band in metal. Boring, boring music. My heart still goes out to Dimebag and his family though.

I can't stand 'em. They did more to fark up metal than the grunge movement did.

Not really, they probably extended it by 5 years or more, metal was dead for the most part when they came on the scene.

jvcturntable: /Phil Anselmo = Awesome due.
//If only for bailing Mike Williams out of jail after Hurricane Katrina.
///Eyehategod is the greatest metal band ever.

Played FPS games with Phil online, he seemed like a nice guy.

I remember back in 1988 in Marietta, GA. when some random friend turned us on to Power Metal. We all decided that this band was going to shred balls on their next album, but little did we know that they were going to go in the direction they did with CFH. And when we did hear that album for the first time, we were all like, holy shiat, fark Metallica, these guys just redefined the genre of metal.

// still plays Power Metal at work from time to time. It was a good album for the day.
// OVER AND OUT!

i won't go as far to say Pantera sucked, but they were the progenitors of the musical FAIL known as nu-metal. never liked 'em.

death to false metal

listening to ->

kab: I'd say that Korn / White Zombie are a lot more to blame for the start of 'nu' metal... but that's just me.

Pantera had a lot to do with nu-metal. They started out as a glam band, then went 'hardcore' once it was obvious glam was going out and a more hardcore sound was in. Diamond Darell was good, but even so most of his riffs were pretty basic. They couldn't compare to the Dave Mustaines or even the Andreas Kissers of the world. Hell, Vinnie Paul's drums were so over produced, Lars Ulrich uses him as his new inspiration.

They filled a niche and were entertaining, but they weren't as great a band as everyone makes them out to be.

/in my Boobies I said Far Beyond Driven was a good album, I meant to say Vulgar Display instead. My bad.

TeddyBallGame: Christi: I ♥ Phil Anselmo.

The heroine issues killed this band. He was a perfect front man though. Talk about four guys born to do what they did!

Not just the drugs, he's got a lot of mental health issues as well that really farked things up, and have continued to fark things up with Down.

Whatthefark: cabritosaurio: metal music in general was never that popular to begin with

CAn I have some of whatever it is your smoking? Metal, not buttrock ala Poison or Warrant, was huge. The real metal bands from the 80s still sell out shows today. Look at Iron Maiden or Judas Priest.

As far as Pantera, I considered them the beginning of nu-metal. They had some good songs and Far Beyond Driven is a great album, but they weren't true metal. I saw them open for Skid Row once. Pantera was alright, mostly due to Dimebag's shredding, but SR put on a better show.

"Real" metal bands do still sell-out shows, yes. But, come on, Black Sabbath, Maiden, Priest, are only popular to metal and rock fans. It's not like they'll be invited to play SNL, Obama and all that crap. However, there isn't anything wrong with that. My point is that, if you walk up to some random person in the street and ask them about their favourite Iron Maiden hit, they would probably just stare at you without an answer. If you ask that same person about...for instance...Madonna's hits, they'll atleast be able to name 2. Those good ol' bands are still rocking, still making millions, however, they aren't popular like top 40 shiat.

Regarding them being pioneers of nu-metal... I wouldn't say that. The only thing they did was become more groove-oriented. They still had fast songs like "Strength beyond strength" etc, something that nu-metal bands never had. Furthermore, they pretty much had a kick-ass guitar solo on every track, again, something that nu-metal doesn't (hardly) have. The vocals were not whiney, however, it's the only thing that might slightly be comparable to nu-metal in some aspects. I'm not saying the nu-metal wave wasn't influenced by them. I think nu-metal only just took Pantera's groove and left all other ingredients out. Thus forming a giant vortex of suck.

Just like the other guy said, Korn was to blame for the start of nu-metal. I think they have been considered the first nu-metal band...I think. Except for the vocals and creepy themes, I'd say white zombie had a bigger influence on the nu-metal genre than Pantera. Image wise, he had the dreadlocks and the beard that was imitated left and right by atleast 1 nu-metal band member.Then again, Darrel's colored beard was also popular amongst nu-metal fans.

I enjoy telling young kids at metal shows that I got to see Pantera a bunch of times. Then when they are in full awe of how farking cool I am and ontinue to be I tell them to get off my lawn!

/First time I heard Pantera was in my buddy's Ford Escort as we smoked a bowl

I get a kick out of telling young kids I saw Pantera in 1984, when they were a hair-metal band, at Cardis in Houston ...

DAMMIT PANTERA!! YOU RESPECT YOUR STEP-MOTHER!!

The last great innovative guitar god. The EVH of the 90s. Nobody has filled the niche that he has left.

grim_and_frostbitten: i won't go as far to say Pantera sucked, but they were the progenitors of the musical FAIL known as nu-metal. never liked 'em.

death to false metal

listening to ->

I don't know if I agree with you on the first point, but I totally see the Death point of view :D

/why don't you
//pull the plug?