About farkin' time.

I'm wondering whether this will have the same kind of coverage that the original allegations did. And if anyone will call the GOP out about it.

Benevolent Misanthrope: I'm wondering whether this will have the same kind of coverage that the original allegations did. And if anyone will call the GOP out about it.

Of course not! It's the liberal media. And they're all in the tank for Obama, you betcha!

The Dems aren't responsible for ACORN committing the voter fraud they had forced on them for people filling out fake registrations? No, that can't be. Clearly ACORN was forced by those evil Dems to make people make fake registrations that they were then required by law to add to the system.

CBS is catching onto the intentional purging of Democratic voters by Republicans too. Every single one of those farkers needs to be tossed in jail, at minimum.

Benevolent Misanthrope: I'm wondering whether this will have the same kind of coverage that the original allegations did. And if anyone will call the GOP out about it.

If they do then there will be all kinds of howling and little butthurt jackasses demanding that Obama apologize for their scheme not working.

Benevolent Misanthrope: I'm wondering whether this will have the same kind of coverage that the original allegations did. And if anyone will call the GOP out about it.

i'm sure fox news will pick up this story right away.

Non-story. Overly-zealous media.

burndtdan: Benevolent Misanthrope: I'm wondering whether this will have the same kind of coverage that the original allegations did. And if anyone will call the GOP out about it.

i'm sure fox news will pick up this story right away.

Oh, yes, because they are the guardians of the truth. They see through the evil MSM! They are the righteous bearers of all that is well and good and reform-y in the world! They are, dare I say, mavericks in the world of journalism.

Jon Snow: Non-story. Overly-zealous media.

Non-commentary. Overly-incredulous farker.

I'm sorry but what is the news story that Fox news or the GOP needs to be asked about with this? All AP has done here is insert opinion and that's a news story?

I don't think most intelligent republicans or Fox news believe that mickey mouse is going to turn up at a polling place.

but if you have overwhelmed the system, then it would make it easier to sneak in illegal votes than not having conducted this in the first place. The question, which is not answered in this story, is whether this is a strategy by ACORN or not. Whether they flag them as invalid or not, they still have to submit them. Then they can fight the cause of voter suppression, which in turn may get some fraudulent votes counted.

inebriated brain: I'm sorry but what is the news story that Fox news or the GOP needs to be asked about with this?

The lie that there is anything remotely resembling significant voter fraud in this country- especially driven by ACORN, and that it has anything to do with the Obama campaign- is retarded. This will blow up in McCain's face, because this particular GOP voter-supression tactic was bankrupted once Josh Marshall et al. exposed it for what it was during the US Attorneys scandal.

Of course trying to persuade someone like yourself, who thinks that frivolous lawsuits are Bad News... for Obama^TM is probably impossible.

inebriated brain: I'm sorry but what is the news story that Fox news or the GOP needs to be asked about with this? All AP has done here is insert opinion and that's a news story?

I don't think most intelligent republicans or Fox news believe that mickey mouse is going to turn up at a polling place.

but if you have overwhelmed the system, then it would make it easier to sneak in illegal votes than not having conducted this in the first place. The question, which is not answered in this story, is whether this is a strategy by ACORN or not. Whether they flag them as invalid or not, they still have to submit them. Then they can fight the cause of voter suppression, which in turn may get some fraudulent votes counted.

I may walk out my door tomorrow, trip on a squirrel, fall forward a few steps and hit a passing cat that might run out in front of a car causing it to slam on its brakes and perhaps, just perhaps, wake up my neighbor who might be out tonight at a bar where he might be meeting a girl who might be drunk and who might go with him if her friend hooks up with that guy who's girlfriend might not be home because her mother might be sick upstate and she might have to get on a bus...

This has been another eye-opening and in-depth report from FOX News!

Jon Snow: Of course trying to persuade someone like yourself, who thinks that frivolous lawsuits are Bad News... for ObamaTM is probably impossible.

I don't think it's good news for Obama, do you? I said in the thread, that its not huge. That means it's really insignificant in my mind. So don't put words in my mouth.

newmoonpuppyhead

why quote me and then make some ridiculous rant and call it fox news reporting? If your going to quote me, then have something to say about what you are quoting from. Other than ridiculing fox news. And why anyway? Fox news is one cable network. CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, the AP, etc. are all in the tank for Obama.

inebriated brain: If your going to quote me, then have something to say about what you are quoting from.

i like pie.

inebriated brain: most intelligent republicans

I met all 3 of them today and you're right, 2 of them don't expect Mickey Mouse to vote. The other guy was still hung over and didn't say anything.

inebriated brain: don't think it's good news for Obama, do you?

It absolutely is. It's further proof of how the right has nothing left to throw at him with only two weeks and change left in the election. I would love it if the next 16 or so days were spent by the right wing complaining about Rezko. The rest of the country couldn't be paid to give a shiat.

Mordant: I met all 3 of them today and you're right, 2 of them don't expect Mickey Mouse to vote. The other guy was still hung over and didn't say anything.

Now that, that was funny. Mean, but funny.

inebriated brain: CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, the AP, etc. are all in the tank for Obama.

That, right there, is exactly why I wrote what I did. I wrote in another thread the same kind of response to someone else. There are no facts that will stop you from thinking what you do. You are party before country. Period. YOU are not "Joe the Plumber". You are not "Joe Sixpack". You are "Joe GOP".

BTW, do you have a picture of the tank you mentioned? I hear so much about it. I would really like to see it.

Jon Snow: It's further proof of how the right has nothing left to throw at him with only two weeks and change left in the election

Nothing but clear choices. Policy is where McCain needs to stay, and I don't see Rezko being nothing more than another reference to Obamas questionable relationships.

Benevolent Misanthrope: I'm wondering whether this will have the same kind of coverage that the original allegations did. And if anyone will call the GOP out about it.

I'm sure Palin and McCain will continue to ignore the facts behind ACORN. All they need to do is say "OBAMA [...] AYERS [...] TERRORIST" "OBAMA [...] ACORN MUST MEAN SOMETHING BAD", and they will. It's the "IRAQ [...] 9/11!" con that worked really well. And the idiots who support them will continue to mess their pants in glee.fark 'em.

inebriated brain: Jon Snow: It's further proof of how the right has nothing left to throw at him with only two weeks and change left in the election

Nothing but clear choices. Policy is where McCain needs to stay, and I don't see Rezko being nothing more than another reference to Obamas questionable relationships.

McCain can't stay on policy. When he does he loses. Face it. This is all they have left. Fear Obama!!!

inebriated brain: Jon Snow: It's further proof of how the right has nothing left to throw at him with only two weeks and change left in the election

Nothing but clear choices. Policy is where McCain needs to stay, and I don't see Rezko being nothing more than another reference to Obamas questionable relationships.

See! There you go. Party first. Everyone has relationships that are "questionable". In fact, both McCain and Palin have tons of "questionable" relationships. Do you see? You are not looking at this from anywhere near a moderate and logical position. It's an active search for anything, ANYTHING you can find to attack Obama with.

newmoonpuppyhead: You are party before country. Period. YOU are not "Joe the Plumber". You are not "Joe Sixpack". You are "Joe GOP".

I'm a rational, logical person. So facts are facts. How we interpret them and the conclusions deduced from them are always met by bias, that's human nature.

This party before country shiat is just stupid. My ideology falls closer in line with McCain than Obama. McCain is a republican. But my support of him does not make me a party hack. My concerns are for the future of all of civilization, not the GOP.

newmoonpuppyhead: They attacked the farking Annenberg Foundation. Really, they've completely lost any rationality. Treat them like any other dangerous mental patient. Don't bother engaging. Just feel sorrowful for them, and watch them like a hawk.

newmoonpuppyhead: Do you see? You are not looking at this from anywhere near a moderate and logical position. It's an active search for anything, ANYTHING you can find to attack Obama with.

I think it's important that we don't go down the road Obama wants to take us on. Do you mean to tell me that I am illogical for not supporting Obama? This is a contest, a war have you. You mean to tell me that you have never attacked McCain outside of his policy positions? I find that hard to believe.

newmoonpuppyhead: inebriated brain: Jon Snow: It's further proof of how the right has nothing left to throw at him with only two weeks and change left in the election

Nothing but clear choices. Policy is where McCain needs to stay, and I don't see Rezko being nothing more than another reference to Obamas questionable relationships.

See! There you go. Party first. Everyone has relationships that are "questionable". In fact, both McCain and Palin have tons of "questionable" relationships. Do you see? You are not looking at this from anywhere near a moderate and logical position. It's an active search for anything, ANYTHING you can find to attack Obama with.

It's sad that we have to keep educating McCain people about their own candidates' relationships isn't it? I'm tired of it, and they *do* know of the people of whom I speak. So, let them sit there and whimper helplessly, knowing that the McCain of 2000 will never be President. These people gave us 2 terms of GW, defended the start of this goddamn war in Iraq, allowed torture and wiretapping, etc.. Clearly, they'll never learn their lesson.

burndtdan: inebriated brain: If your you're going to quote me, then have something to say about what you are quoting from have quoted.

i like pie.

I also like pie.
/and correcting grammatical errors.

inebriated brain: Policy is where McCain needs to stay

Holy shiat, I hope you're trolling.

I take that back. I hope McCain takes you on as an adviser. This is exactly the advice he needs to be following. More of this, please.

inebriated brain: My concerns are for the future of all of civilization, not the GOP.

You sound concerned.
Concerned and frightened by bogeymen.

inebriated brain: My concerns are for the future of all of civilization, not the GOP.

Obama has become Death, the destroyer of worlds.

HansensDisease: Concerned and frightened by bogeymen.

well I did hear that Obama has bogeymen on his staff...

/at least that's what Fox news told me to believe

inebriated brain: My concerns are for the future of all of civilization, not the GOP.

So bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran is your "concerned" choice for civilization?

You're a GOP hack. For fark's sake, my dad is a geopolitics educator (some secondary, mostly uni-level), and a conservative. He, like most people, thought McCain was a good guy in 2000. He had never in his life voted for a Democrat until this year. He voted in early Virginia voting for Obama and has asked the rest of his conservative, high-info voter friends to do likewise.

The conservative intellectuals have jumped ship. McCain is not a smart, safe, conservative candidate. I'm sorry that you're too blinded by partisanship to see it.

Mordant: I met all 3 of them today and you're right, 2 of them don't expect Mickey Mouse to vote. The other guy was still hung over and didn't say anything.

There's a reason why Mordant is the only Farker that has been flagged as a favorite user of mine since the get go. Consistency. It's a rare thing.

God love you, you angry, hilarious bastard.

newmoonpuppyhead: inebriated brain: CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, the AP, etc. are all in the tank for Obama.

That, right there, is exactly why I wrote what I did. I wrote in another thread the same kind of response to someone else. There are no facts that will stop you from thinking what you do. You are party before country. Period. YOU are not "Joe the Plumber". You are not "Joe Sixpack". You are "Joe GOP".

BTW, do you have a picture of the tank you mentioned? I hear so much about it. I would really like to see it.

That tank must be huuuuuuge.

Also, you forgot to put in the tank for Obama: the BBC, CBC, PBS, NPR, Reuters, AFP, The New York Times, the Washington Post, several of the Republican Tribune papers (Chicago Tribune, LA Times), The Economist, Bloomberg, Newsweek, Time, Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, Le Monde, The Daily Telegraph, The Financial Times, The Guardian, The Independent, The Globe and Mail, Politico, Pollster.com...

inebriated brain: newmoonpuppyhead: Do you see? You are not looking at this from anywhere near a moderate and logical position. It's an active search for anything, ANYTHING you can find to attack Obama with.

I think it's important that we don't go down the road Obama wants to take us on. Do you mean to tell me that I am illogical for not supporting Obama? This is a contest, a war have you. You mean to tell me that you have never attacked McCain outside of his policy positions? I find that hard to believe.

That's right, keep ignoring what people are actually saying and instead knock down those big, mean straw men.

You go to work inebriated brain, you beat those straw men to a pulp!

bobbette: Also, you forgot to put in the tank for Obama: the BBC, CBC, PBS, NPR, Reuters, AFP, The New York Times, the Washington Post, several of the Republican Tribune papers (Chicago Tribune, LA Times), The Economist, Bloomberg, Newsweek, Time, Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, Le Monde, The Daily Telegraph, The Financial Times, The Guardian, The Independent, The Globe and Mail, Politico, Pollster.com...

You forgot all the liberal media talking heads who are in the tank for Obama:

Peggy Noonan, Kathleen Parker, George Will, Christopher Buckley, Bill Kristol, Redstate.com, David Brooks, David Frum, Charles Krauthammer.....

Benevolent Misanthrope: I'm wondering whether this will have the same kind of coverage that the original allegations did. And if anyone will call carrier pigeon the GOP out about it.

/Now with 100% more fixed

Let me give yo9u a synopsis of the thread so far:



That's me on the right, and newmoonpuppyhead is on the left.

by what standards is krauthammer "in the tank for obama"? you're insane.

andrewagill: Let me give yo9u a synopsis of the thread so far:

Wow. I never thought I'd misspell you...and do it with a 9. I guess that makes me worse than Quayle.

/When that happens, it's time to get you6rselllf some sleep.

This is bad news... for Obama.

inebriated brain: I don't think most intelligent republicans or Fox news believe that mickey mouse is going to turn up at a polling place.

Isn't the term "intelligent Republicans" an oxymoron?

Mordant: Benevolent Misanthrope: I'm wondering whether this will have the same kind of coverage that the original allegations did. And if anyone will call the GOP out about it.

If they do then there will be all kinds of howling and little butthurt jackasses demanding that Obama apologize for their scheme not working.

More likely, it'll be exactly the same as the 'Obama doesn't pledge the flag' issue that *still* gets brought up, with the same photo of Obama, Hillary and Bill Richardson in front of a flag while the National anthem is playing. It didn't matter how often it was explained that the National anthem was playing in the first place; or having some members of the military explain what proper flag etiquette was in the first place -- and Obama wasn't breaching anything; or the number of times the beloved George Bush is shown not having his hand over his heart as the National anthem played. The 'Obama doesn't pledge the flag' lie has a life of its own, because people want it to.

So, it doesn't matter whether or not ACORN is responsible for some people filling out voter registration information with fraudulant information. It matters whether people want ACORN to be responsible. ACORN can be pronounced innocent -- and it will go in one ear and out the ears of the others of those who are now upset with 'liberals lying about someone yelling kill him at a McCain/Palin rally', and who experience cognitive dissonance when verified Republican dabbling in voter disenfranchisement/fraud is brought up.

inebriated brain: I'm a rational, logical person.

LOL!

Oh.. by the way...it was just released that the Obama campaign raised 150 million in the month of September.

3.1 million contributors, average contribution - 86 dollars.

And for those who were wondering what Obama's tank looks like...

rackrent: inebriated brain: I don't think most intelligent republicans or Fox news believe that mickey mouse is going to turn up at a polling place.

Isn't the term "intelligent Republicans" an oxymoron?

No.

Buckley finds himself parting ways with President Bush, whom he praises as a decisive leader but admonishes for having strayed from true conservative principles in his foreign policy.... "If you had a European prime minister who experienced what we've experienced it would be expected that he would retire or resign," (William F.) Buckley says. (William F. Buckley, July 22, 2006 interview with CBS Evening News Saturday anchor Thalia Assuras) (new window)


My point, simply, is that William F. Buckley held to rigorous standards, and if those were met by members of the other side rather than by his own camp, he said as much. My father was also unpredictable, which tends to keep things fresh and lively and on-their-feet. He came out for legalization of drugs once he decided that the war on drugs was largely counterproductive. Hardly a conservative position. Finally, and hardly least, he was fun. God, he was fun. He liked to mix it up. (Christopher Buckley, October 2008, The Daily Beast courtesy of The Swamp) (new window)

"But really, over the years, distancing myself from that evangelical background, as I talk about in the book, I've come to a place where...speaking of the secessionists in Alaska, the evangelical right-wing subculture in this country, particularly the Assemblies of God, by the way, that Sarah Palin comes from, have really already ceded from our union, in the sense of the fact that they have, you know, between home schooling and their own schools, their own publishing, their own radio, their own TV, many times very fundamentally anti-American, waiting for the Apocalypse, waiting for Jesus to take everybody away in the Rapture, weirdly Christian Zionist and at the same time assuming that the Jews will all be killed in Armageddon, when Jesus comes back, as part of their Rapture enterprise.

"You know, just to put it frankly, the evangelical movement that I grew up in as a child used to be a fairly respectable and respectful group of people. They regarded themselves as Americans and part of the system. And now, I really think it's been taken over by a group of people that have to be described fairly as just wingnuts...And the fact of the matter is, the movement has gone off the rails. "
Frank Schaeffer interviewed by Amy Goodman of Democracy Now, courtesy of Truthout.org, courtesy of Huffington Post (new window)

At first, I thought inebriated brain was serious. Then I read his profile. He lists A Perfect Circle as one of his favorite bands, which made me think, do pro-fear candidates actually have APC followers? Unlikely. Unless they don't listen. Which, is of course a possibility.

I'm not sure how you can listen to this for fun, without a pretty clear understanding of what the song is about.

If that doesn't make it clear enough, there's the Remix where the video makes it a little more clear.

/Go back to sleep, your government is in control.

bobbette: newmoonpuppyhead: inebriated brain: CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, the AP, etc. are all in the tank for Obama.

That, right there, is exactly why I wrote what I did. I wrote in another thread the same kind of response to someone else. There are no facts that will stop you from thinking what you do. You are party before country. Period. YOU are not "Joe the Plumber". You are not "Joe Sixpack". You are "Joe GOP".

BTW, do you have a picture of the tank you mentioned? I hear so much about it. I would really like to see it.

That tank must be huuuuuuge.

Also, you forgot to put in the tank for Obama: the BBC, CBC, PBS, NPR, Reuters, AFP, The New York Times, the Washington Post, several of the Republican Tribune papers (Chicago Tribune, LA Times), The Economist, Bloomberg, Newsweek, Time, Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, Le Monde, The Daily Telegraph, The Financial Times, The Guardian, The Independent, The Globe and Mail, Politico, Pollster.com...

...and Poland. You forgot Poland.