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TheOther [TotalFark] 2008-10-19 12:32:22 AM  
Didn't House already do this?

 
MindfulModeration 2008-10-19 02:21:42 AM  
Hmm... hang on, I have a metric to judge comments released by the Catholic Church.

Still covering for child rapists? Yep.

I believe my rubric asks me to tell you to shut the hell up, Mr. Priest. It also tells me that the Donatists were on to something.

 
Duke Phillips' Singing Bears 2008-10-19 05:06:21 AM  
MindfulModeration: Still covering for child rapists? Yep.

They only rape little boys because little boys can never have babies. It's just a very elegant solution to the problem of birth control.

It SHOULD be obvious.

 
Gyrfalcon [TotalFark] 2008-10-19 05:08:33 AM  
...thus ensuring the votes of all abortion-rights Catholics from Denver who still trust their archbishop to tell them anything about Presidential candidates.

 
Thray 2008-10-19 05:09:57 AM  
Oh, that was intended as a negative observation.

I see.

 
5h4wn 2008-10-19 05:13:23 AM  
Damn right he is, and I am absolutely thrilled he will be president. Oh, and I hope he appoints very liberal supreme court justices. Like Kucinich liberal

 
The President of Hittin' That Ass 2008-10-19 05:14:07 AM  
They're all for the rights of the unborn, but if the fetus grows up to be a doctor they just might have to kill it?

/paraphrased Carlin

 
GhostFish 2008-10-19 05:27:02 AM  
Again, I really don't think that McCain believes in God.

I just don't see it. I'd be shocked if I was wrong.

And that's fine be me if he doesn't, but I kind of doubt it would be fine by the Catholic church.

 
aquarius 2008-10-19 05:40:39 AM  
well, duh!

 
Relatively Obscure [TotalFark] 2008-10-19 05:44:24 AM  
5h4wn: Damn right he is, and I am absolutely thrilled he will be president. Oh, and I hope he appoints very liberal supreme court justices. Like Kucinich liberal

If I were President and had a supportive Congress, I'd appoint people in their 20s just to fark with some clowns.

On the bench for LIFE, biatches!

/May be one reason I'm not President.

 
Neeek [TotalFark] 2008-10-19 06:06:28 AM  
5h4wn: Damn right he is, and I am absolutely thrilled he will be president. Oh, and I hope he appoints very liberal supreme court justices. Like Kucinich liberal

Why not Kucinich himself.

Hell, we could get a whole list going. Kucinich, Feingold, Sanders...

 
ConservativesBlow 2008-10-19 06:56:41 AM  
Really? Where was this clown during the Democratic primaries?

If Clinton had gotten the nomination would he have been so bold in his proclamation?

 
Hobodeluxe [TotalFark] 2008-10-19 06:58:19 AM  
McCain abandoned his first wife and kids for a rich young hottie he was screwing.
that to me says more about his values than Obama's position on women's right to choose.

 
Decados [TotalFark] 2008-10-19 06:59:50 AM  
Hobodeluxe: McCain abandoned his first wife and kids for a rich young hottie he was screwing.
that to me says more about his values than Obama's position on women's right to choose.


THIS.

If the man can't take a wedding vow seriously, I can't trust him to take the vow to defend the constitution seriously.

 
punistation 2008-10-19 07:19:55 AM  
And McCain is the "most commited divorce-rights candidate"?

Where's all the "McCain refused communion" stories that plagued John Kerry? I don't see them.

 
Decados [TotalFark] 2008-10-19 07:23:21 AM  
punistation: And McCain is the "most commited divorce-rights candidate"?

Where's all the "McCain refused communion" stories that plagued John Kerry? I don't see them.


To be fair, McCain isn't part of a religion that has such dogmatic beliefs such as communion or the refusal thereof.

 
SwingingJohnson 2008-10-19 07:41:15 AM  
"Chaput, one of the nation's most politically outspoken Catholic prelates,"

That right there should warrant removal of his churches tax exempt status.

 
the real splatapus 2008-10-19 07:55:36 AM  
well, obama should be applauded for being the only candidate who has the foresight and vision to allow abortion of all those possible victims of the catholic church, but i was wondering if he realized that all those aborted babies were potential taxpayers, so expect a change on his position shortly

 
The President of Hittin' That Ass 2008-10-19 08:09:21 AM  
SwingingJohnson: "Chaput, one of the nation's most politically outspoken Catholic prelates,"

That right there should warrant removal of his churches tax exempt status.


Good point. Thanks for giving me a headache, which happens every time I ponder the fact that churches PAY NO TAXES. It's 100% net profit.

/The aspirin they do nothing.
//TAX those farkers!

 
Marcus Aurelius [TotalFark] 2008-10-19 08:25:24 AM  
With the US in recession, this is a perfect spot to boost tax revenues. Besides, the Catholic Church believes in poverty, yes? Then let's just give them what they believe in and tax the living crap out of them.

 
MrShinra 2008-10-19 08:32:33 AM  
If the Church had excommunicated Priests who touched little boys with the same vigor that they did for Gay Priests, then PERHAPS they might have a leg to stand on, but as of right now,
I don't give a crap what any Bishop says about anything.

 
Murkanen 2008-10-19 08:35:00 AM  
Catholic archbishop from Denver calls Obama "the most committed abortion-rights candidate"

I realize that it is an assbag saying this as if it is a bad thing, but why no Cool tag, submitter?

 
jcooli09 2008-10-19 08:36:19 AM  
It should be a major felony for a religious official to express a political opinion while acting as anything other than a private citizen.

 
jcooli09 2008-10-19 08:38:26 AM  
Neeek: 5h4wn: Damn right he is, and I am absolutely thrilled he will be president. Oh, and I hope he appoints very liberal supreme court justices. Like Kucinich liberal

Why not Kucinich himself.

Hell, we could get a whole list going. Kucinich, Feingold, Sanders...


There are worse choices than Kucinich on the bench now.

 
chipspastic 2008-10-19 08:39:54 AM  
This made me like Obama even more.

 
Linux_Yes [TotalFark] 2008-10-19 08:59:56 AM  
now if only bush had been aborted. damn. missed opportunities.

 
mjsee [TotalFark] 2008-10-19 09:26:50 AM  
punistation: And McCain is the "most commited divorce-rights candidate"?

Where's all the "McCain refused communion" stories that plagued John Kerry? I don't see them.


Is McCain Roman Catholic? Last I checked, he was a "Whiskeypalian." Episcopal church recognizes divorce.

 
Blahbbs 2008-10-19 09:38:19 AM  
It seems to me that even if McCain was elected it would be impossible for him to appoint a pro-life judge given how Democratic the congress is likely to be.

Also, I agree with an earlier observation that McCain just doesn't seem like a spiritual kind of guy. Sure, he can pander well to a Christian audience, but it doesn't feel authentic.

 
ArgusRun 2008-10-19 09:52:24 AM  
He says that like it's a bad thing.

/Jewish
/Judaism teaches that a fetus does not become viable until he graduates from med school.

 
blindy the pirate 2008-10-19 10:08:18 AM  
Thray: Oh, that was intended as a negative observation.

I see.


I was like you. It took reading these comments to find out it was supposed to be a knock.

 
proteus_b 2008-10-19 10:12:53 AM  
aurelius:

great idea, let's propose taxes on individuals and institutions based on whether or not they like our candidate!

/i agree that relgious groups that gather monies should be held more strictly to 503 c) rules, but your motivations, like those of all partisan D's or R's, is absolutely sickening.

 
tartie_pants 2008-10-19 10:26:57 AM  
As a Catholic I am sick of this shiat. Enough of this one note wonder crap, what about social justice that we supposedly believe in? What about the Pope calling our current wars unjust? What about opposing the death penalty? We have more beliefs that this one issue and one EVERY OTHER FARKIN ONE its OBAMA that matches our views.

/takes deep breath
/goes to happy place

 
AirForceVet [TotalFark] 2008-10-19 10:29:59 AM  
The Catholic Church opposes any birth control as interfering with God's will. This even includes using rubbers to prevent pregnancy and STD transmission (including HIV).

I completely support women's right to choose abortion or not. The government needs to keep out of its people's uterui as well as their homes.

 
Zumaki 2008-10-19 11:03:15 AM  
Thanks?

 
jgbrowning 2008-10-19 12:07:35 PM  
Good. That's one of the many reasons I'm voting for him.

 
Rob McKenna 2008-10-19 12:08:11 PM  
Obama cares about the "health" of the mother? Pro-Abortionist!!1!fark the Catholic church. Telling poor people that birth-control is a sin, should be a sin.

 
KrustAsian 2008-10-19 12:23:32 PM  
Oh hai! I'm a single-issue Catholic voter too.


www.fourthbranchofamerica.com
Opposed the war.


www.soxfirst.com
Opposed the war.

 
wildcardjack 2008-10-19 12:32:16 PM  
So, is this an endorsement of Obama? Sounds like it.

I think the Catholics are yearning for the church to get a clue and move onto the 20th century.

 
Kevin5280 2008-10-19 12:50:46 PM  
ConservativesBlow: Really? Where was this clown during the Democratic primaries?

I think Chaput is just trying to make some noise and get some attention since Amendment 48 author Kristi Burton snatched the "Most Dangerous Christian in Colorado" title from him and took the spotlight along with it.

For those that are curious, Amendment 48 defines a person in Colorado as a fertilized egg or above. Burton claims that a "concrete definition" is needed in the statutes, even though we've managed to survive just fine without one. The reality, it's to bring Christian hatred for abortion, scientific research and birth control to our state laws.

If you live in Colorado, please vote NO on 48

Obama-Biden 08

 
A Tout Le Monde 2008-10-19 12:53:32 PM  
GhostFish: Again, I really don't think that McCain believes in God.

I just don't see it. I'd be shocked if I was wrong.

And that's fine be me if he doesn't, but I kind of doubt it would be fine by the Catholic church.


I think you are right. Mostly because of this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KjsEs46C70

A fellow POW with McCain said that he basically had no interest in religion and was "apathetic about it." Sounds kind of agnostic to me.

 
A Tout Le Monde 2008-10-19 12:57:19 PM  
A Tout Le Monde: GhostFish: Again, I really don't think that McCain believes in God.

I just don't see it. I'd be shocked if I was wrong.

And that's fine be me if he doesn't, but I kind of doubt it would be fine by the Catholic church.

I think you are right. Mostly because of this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KjsEs46C70

A fellow POW with McCain said that he basically had no interest in religion and was "apathetic about it." Sounds kind of agnostic to me.


Imagine the irony explosion if this was brought up and McCain camp says, "We take offense to questioning of McCain's religious convictions.."

 
Drunk Astronaut 2008-10-19 02:08:16 PM  
It's really about time to make ths Catholic Church pay taxes on their earnings and property because they seem so intent on participating in electoral politics.

 
scoughlin 2008-10-19 03:02:20 PM  
Drunk Astronaut: It's really about time to make ths Catholic Church pay taxes on their earnings and property because they seem so intent on participating in electoral politics.

This. We really need someone in office with the stones to take away a church's tax exemptions the moment they try to influence politics with their narrow-minded beliefs. These morons on the right keep trying to portray Obama as having an "extreme" view on abortion, even though it is the most common sense approach. If the woman's life is endangered, or rape or incest was involved, having an abortion is reasonable. In all other cases, it is not.

 
BuckTurgidson 2008-10-19 03:40:24 PM  
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orangehat 2008-10-19 04:43:35 PM  
Coming from a guy who was pretty committed to keeping the rape and sexual abuse of children, it makes sense. Abortion means less kids, which means less potential victims of priests. He's just looking out for his best interests.
That aborted fetus could have become a quiet altar boy.

/Live in Colorado
//Go Obama
///No on 48

 
archeochick 2008-10-19 05:45:38 PM  
McCain's position on abortion isn't in line with the Catholic Church either. He believes in abortion in the case of rape or incest, while the Church teaches that an unborn child is still worthy of life regardless of the circumstances of his or her conception. So, while neither candidate is in line with the churches teachings on abortion, but only one candidate has discussed making abortion more rare by removing social pressures that may make a woman more likely to choose abortion.

It really bugs me when people reduce the Church's consistent life ethic to antiabortion. In addition to opposing abortion and contraception (including emergency contraception) they also oppose in vitro fertilization, masturbation, surrogate mothers, sperm donation, the use of embryonic stem cells in research, the death penalty, euthanasia (but not the right to refuse extraordinary procedures), and reluctance to war.

It's really hard to find any candidate who openly opposes all those things that the Church opposes, so when a Catholic voter wants to make a choice based on the teachings of the Church, they either need to abstain from voting or make reasonable and thoughtful compromises.

Of course, that doesn't sell papers.

 
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