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Control_this [TotalFark] 2008-10-12 04:19:07 AM  
There was one sign that said, `Close the door or the devil will get you.' It should have said, `Close the door or the deputies will get you,' because we did," Christian said.

Oh he's a witty motherfarker, isn't he?

 
btch_cakes 2008-10-12 07:54:56 AM  
Sherman, Sherman, Sherman, Sherman, Sherman

 
Voldemort 2008-10-12 08:01:57 AM  
O'Bama?

 
Hide your chickens 2008-10-12 08:01:59 AM  
This is bad news...for 'Bama

Not really...Drugs are not exactly the best thing to happen to 'Bama...

 
adeist69 2008-10-12 08:04:37 AM  
I'm so conflicted--they'll destroy the plants, which makes me sad..but a lawyer goes to jail, which makes me happy...

 
EmployeeOfTheMinute 2008-10-12 08:05:29 AM  
FTFA:

Marijuana, Hale said, is a gateway drug that leads to more violent crime.

Is this even remotely true?

 
Malinki 2008-10-12 08:07:21 AM  
No shortage here. As noted in another thread, 100% organic DJ Short Blueberry, fresh off the stem. Still needs to cure for a while, but as-is it's better than 95% of what's out there.

/puff
//puff
///pass

 
BuyNLarge 2008-10-12 08:08:04 AM  
Legalize it and tax it. Government would make enough in 2 weeks to cover that $700 billion bailout...

 
kirishima 2008-10-12 08:10:19 AM  
I will never get tired of that cliché. Good job, subby!

 
Malinki 2008-10-12 08:14:08 AM  
BuyNLarge: Legalize it and tax it. Government would make enough in 2 weeks to cover that $700 billion bailout...

One more time...

Won't happen. There's too much money involved in it being illegal. Why vote to legalize something that would remove the nice tax-free bribe from your pocket? And make a bigger headache for you as a lawmaker?

 
BuyNLarge 2008-10-12 08:17:42 AM  
What about all the inmates that we wouldn't have to pay for?

 
Malinki 2008-10-12 08:19:30 AM  
BuyNLarge: What about all the inmates that we wouldn't have to pay for?

That's even bigger business than the bribes.

 
adeist69 2008-10-12 08:19:37 AM  
EmployeeOfTheMinute: FTFA:

Marijuana, Hale said, is a gateway drug that leads to more violent crime.

Is this even remotely true?



Not nearly as true as it is for alcohol.

/leads to unplanned pregnancies, marriages, and other
inconveniences

 
zez 2008-10-12 08:21:28 AM  
Marijuana, Hale said, is a gateway drug that leads to more violent crime.

If there was only a way to make it so that crime wasn't connected with marijuana.

 
BuyNLarge 2008-10-12 08:23:59 AM  
Putting people in prison for selling/utilizing plants is worse than Christians enforcing their beliefs on the rest of America.

 
Sir Simon Milligan 2008-10-12 08:25:30 AM  
bam a lam.

oh oh black betty

bam a lam

 
Another Pretentious Nickname 2008-10-12 08:26:28 AM  
America: Guns prevent violent crimes and marijuana causes them

Canada: Guns encourage violent crimes and marijana doesn't

America: 5.6 homices per 100,000 people, 287.5 agg assault. (2006 numbers for comps comparison, source http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm)

Canada: 1.85 homicides per 100,000 people, about 10.0 agg assaults. (numbers 2006, source http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/070718/d070718b.htm)


US: You're doing it wrong.

 
adeist69 2008-10-12 08:26:45 AM  
Malinki: BuyNLarge: Legalize it and tax it. Government would make enough in 2 weeks to cover that $700 billion bailout...

One more time...

Won't happen. There's too much money involved in it being illegal. Why vote to legalize something that would remove the nice tax-free bribe from your pocket? And make a bigger headache for you as a lawmaker?



But it's the right thing to do--

"Prohibition will work great injury to the cause of temperance. It is a species of intemperance within itself, for it goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A Prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded." -

Abraham Lincoln

 
evilelvis [TotalFark] 2008-10-12 08:29:11 AM  
Another Pretentious Nickname

you had me until you started knocking guns.

Weed AND guns = good
America's war on drugs = more violent crime by guns

Stats are skewed bruah

 
BuyNLarge 2008-10-12 08:30:44 AM  
guns + alcohol = dead people
guns + weed = happy people

 
Dman33 2008-10-12 08:31:23 AM  

Ah, a nice pot thread. It is 8am, on my birthday. I just woke up, and now I am about to light one up before going to brunch. And I got some gggrrrreeaaaat icky sticky crystally yummy strawberry cough. Yum!

Now, with that said:

Starin' at the boob tube, turnin' on the big knob
Tryin' to find some life in the waste land
Fin'ly found a program, gonna deal with Mary Jane
Ready for a trip into hate land
Obnoxious Joe comes on the screen
Along with his guest self-righteous Sam
And one more guy who doesn't count
His hair and clothes are too far out

While pushin' back his glasses Sam is sayin' casually
"I was elected by the masses"
And with that in mind he starts to unwind
A vicious attack on the finest of grasses

Well it's evil, wicked, mean and nasty
(Don't step on the grass, Sam)
And it will ruin our fair country
(Don't be such an ass, Sam)
Well, it will hook your Sue and Johnny
(You're so full of bull, Sam)
All will pay that disagree with me
(Please give up you already lost the fight, alright)

Misinformation Sam and Joe
Are feeding to the nation
But the one who didn't count counted them out
By exposing all their false quotations
Faced by a very awkward situation
This is all he'd say to save the day

Well it's evil, wicked, mean and nasty
(Don't step on the grass, Sam)
And it will ruin our fair country
(Don't be such an ass, Sam)
Well, it will hook your Sue and Johnny
(You're so full of bull, Sam)
All will pay that disagree with me
(Please give up you already lost the fight alright)

You waste my coin Sam, all you can
To jail my fellow man
For smoking all the noble weed
You need much more than him
You've been telling lies so long
Some believe they're true
So they close their eyes to things
You have no right to do
Just as soon as you are gone
Hope will start to climb
Please don't stay around too long
You're wasting precious time

 
SynthLord 2008-10-12 08:33:25 AM  
Jeez - when are Americans going to grow up about this?

 
Baron Harkonnen 2008-10-12 08:33:44 AM  
BuyNLarge
guns + alcohol = dead people
guns + weed = happy people


guns + any mind altering chemicals= bad

I smoke pot. I drink beer. That's not the time for handling firearms. Period.

 
SynthLord 2008-10-12 08:35:04 AM  
Meant to say:

Jeez - when are American leaders going to grow up about this?

 
untaken_name 2008-10-12 08:36:37 AM  
EmployeeOfTheMinute: FTFA:

Marijuana, Hale said, is a gateway drug that leads to more violent crime.

Is this even remotely true?


No. Not even remotely.

 
adeist69 2008-10-12 08:37:45 AM  
SynthLord: Jeez - when are Americans going to grow up about this?

Americans want to be -- it's the government that refuses to grow up.

 
Paulistinian 2008-10-12 08:38:00 AM  
Control_this: There was one sign that said, `Close the door or the devil will get you.' It should have said, `Close the door or the deputies will get you,' because we did," Christian said.

Oh he's a witty motherfarker, isn't he?



If anyone wants to email this smartass pig and congratulate him on stealing property and shutting down a business during a time of recession, his address is rch­rist­ia­n­[nospam-﹫-backwards]f­f­ireh­soc­f­fe­j*org

 
Another user already has this login name 2008-10-12 08:44:47 AM  
Can anyone explain the origin of this "bad news" meme?

 
DigitalCoffee 2008-10-12 08:44:49 AM  
Nationwide, hydroponic marijuana has increased in popularity and become an organized criminal enterprise, bringing with it noticeable increases in violent crimes such as home invasions, armed robberies, arsons and homicides, authorities said.

Slight causation/correlation problem here. The "home invasions, armed robberies, arsons and homicides" are not caused by the marijuana, they are caused by the illegality of marijuana. The same as what happened during prohibition. Get rid of the illegality and you'll get rid of most of the crime, simple as that.

 
Dman33 2008-10-12 08:45:59 AM  
adeist69: SynthLord: Jeez - when are Americans going to grow up about this?

Americans want to be -- it's the government that refuses to grow up.


But that's okay, because we Americans will continue to do absolutely nothing about a government that represents it's own interests above the interests of the people. And trying to advocate the wishes of the people is quite radical and un-American.

So instead, the gov't spends all this money on the war on drugs to fill up prisons and clog our legal system. Why? Well what does war do for a country? It increases the country's spending. Who profits when the country spends like a motherfarker?

Think about it. We no longer live in the America which was founded in 1776.

 
ISouldBeWorking 2008-10-12 08:46:05 AM  
SynthLord
Jeez - when are Americans going to grow up about this?

I don't know. I do know that i personally am getting very annoyed by all the "look how much weed I'm smoking!!!1" replies in these kind of threads.

It always reminds me of kids who tell everybody exactly what they are planning on doing on the toilet when they need to go; they haven't figured out yet that noone gives a shiat.

 
Danooli [TotalFark] 2008-10-12 08:46:32 AM  
FTFA:
Nationwide, hydroponic marijuana has increased in popularity and become an organized criminal enterprise, bringing with it noticeable increases in violent crimes such as home invasions, armed robberies, arsons and homicides, authorities said.

well, if they would just legalize it, all of that would go away.

 
JamesLi 2008-10-12 08:57:45 AM  
DigitalCoffee: Nationwide, hydroponic marijuana has increased in popularity and become an organized criminal enterprise, bringing with it noticeable increases in violent crimes such as home invasions, armed robberies, arsons and homicides, authorities said.

Slight causation/correlation problem here. The "home invasions, armed robberies, arsons and homicides" are not caused by the marijuana, they are caused by the illegality of marijuana. The same as what happened during prohibition. Get rid of the illegality and you'll get rid of most of the crime, simple as that.


Weed, I totally agree. Crack, etc. will still cause crime. Crackheads won't suddenly become upstanding citizens who happen to smoke crack.

 
adeist69 2008-10-12 08:58:13 AM  
ISouldBeWorking: SynthLord
Jeez - when are Americans going to grow up about this?

I don't know. I do know that i personally am getting very annoyed by all the "look how much weed I'm smoking!!!1" replies in these kind of threads.

It always reminds me of kids who tell everybody exactly what they are planning on doing on the toilet when they need to go; they haven't figured out yet that noone gives a shiat.



You could always change the channel


/I'm just sayin....

 
Rovian 2008-10-12 09:02:33 AM  
Control_this

`Close the door or the devil will get you.' It should have said, `Close the door or the deputies will get you,' because we did," Christian said.


I was thinking the sign had it right.

 
farfigneugan [TotalFark] 2008-10-12 09:03:45 AM  
Another Pretentious Nickname: America: Guns prevent violent crimes and marijuana causes them

Canada: Guns encourage violent crimes and marijana doesn't

America: 5.6 homices per 100,000 people, 287.5 agg assault. (2006 numbers for comps comparison, source http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm)

Canada: 1.85 homicides per 100,000 people, about 10.0 agg assaults. (numbers 2006, source http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/070718/d070718b.htm)


US: You're doing it wrong.


I think it's because it's too cold for black people to live there. Oh wait wait wait.. I mean, there aren't any poor people in Canada. They're all rich. So... ta-dah! No crime!

 
hbomb1129 2008-10-12 09:06:14 AM  
ISouldBeWorking: SynthLord
Jeez - when are Americans going to grow up about this?

I don't know. I do know that i personally am getting very annoyed by all the "look how much weed I'm smoking!!!1" replies in these kind of threads.

It always reminds me of kids who tell everybody exactly what they are planning on doing on the toilet when they need to go; they haven't figured out yet that noone gives a shiat.


I'm smoking right now so I just got a kick from your reply.

 
Malinki 2008-10-12 09:09:22 AM  
adeist69: Malinki: BuyNLarge: Legalize it and tax it. Government would make enough in 2 weeks to cover that $700 billion bailout...

One more time...

Won't happen. There's too much money involved in it being illegal. Why vote to legalize something that would remove the nice tax-free bribe from your pocket? And make a bigger headache for you as a lawmaker?


But it's the right thing to do--

"Prohibition will work great injury to the cause of temperance. It is a species of intemperance within itself, for it goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A Prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded." -

Abraham Lincoln


You don't have to quote Abe to me, I'm well familiar with it. Matter of fact, I may have even been known to leave a shiny penny, face up, whenever I find a plant. That way the grower knows the spot's not safe, but they get the ol' wink from Abe at the same time to say 'good luck'.

But look at it from the perspective of the small grower while we're at it. People that grow maybe a half dozen plants indoors, maybe they put out 10 or 20 in the spring. Most of them don't want decriminalization even more than the politicians. Profit margins are very high with illegal products. Government regulation is at least a headache if not a complete business killer. Sure, the self-sufficiency grower won't mind it being decriminalized, but they're not too worried as-is anyway since they're growing even fewer plants.

I'd love to see it legalized too, but the numbers don't add up.

 
Do What Now Question Mark 2008-10-12 09:12:09 AM  
Nah, this isn't bad news for Bama. We're looking at a possible number one ranking.

Now, Auburn, that's a team that has some problems.

Wait. Did you mean Bama, the state?

 
BuyNLarge 2008-10-12 09:18:19 AM  
I wonder what the result would be if we had a nationwide vote on the legality of marijuana. I mean, we are still a "democracy".

If anything it would quiet most of the weed advocates if opposition were shown.

If there is more profitability from keeping weed illegal, it must be a private sector thing. Fark you Bob Barker.

 
jayday 2008-10-12 09:22:45 AM  
What I find absolutely insane is, that in the states where states have legalized the use of even medical marijuana, the Federal government has ignored this state law, which is completely opposite of the original US government construct. Seems more and more that the Federal government needs to back out of local/state politics, because on almost all fronts it seems to be that they are a cause of a many of the problems out there (more then they solve it seems at times). Just look at the broken laws, and blind eye thats been turned to the activities of the ATF, FBI, and CIA as examples to this. Its as if they arent held to the same laws that we are, which is probably the truth.

 
cryinoutloud [TotalFark] 2008-10-12 09:41:09 AM  
The local paper here sucks, this is the best i could find about this story about the man who was arrested for felony pot charges, claimed he was using it for medicinal uses, then died a few days later because of the stress of the arrest.


Link (new window)

The case has received a great deal of publicity because Day and Sutton Day have claimed the marijuana was for medical purposes. He was born with a degenerative disease that impeded his physical growth and caused a great deal of pain. He said the marijuana helped ease that, relax his muscles and cope with anxiety, among other benefits. She also has illnesses that she uses marijuana to cope with.

Day died last month at the age of 34 after battling the disease all his life. He was facing a handful of felony drug charges, including production, possession and intent to distribute marijuana.

Summer Day was charged with the same crimes, which are still pending.

But medical marijuana advocates from around the state have been lobbying Fitch to drop the charges against Summer Day. Advocates have argued she has suffered enough and should not be prosecuted for producing marijuana that she and Scott Day used to alleviate the pain of a number of ailments.

Neither Day nor Sutton Day had the permit required under Montana's medical marijuana law at the time of the search. They did get the needed permit after the seizure of the plants and were allowed by Tucker to keep using the drug during the case.

 
Third Day Mark 2008-10-12 09:42:48 AM  
BuyNLarge: I wonder what the result would be if we had a nationwide vote on the legality of marijuana. I mean, we are still a "democracy".

If anything it would quiet most of the weed advocates if opposition were shown.

If there is more profitability from keeping weed illegal, it must be a private sector thing. Fark you Bob Barker.


No, because then they would jump back on the Libertarian bandwagon claiming the whole "I should be able to do whatever i want in my own home with whatever adults I want!"

Just legalize it man. No one is going to make you buy it. If you dont want to buy it, no hippie is going to come up to you on the streets and put a gun under your chin and say "Your getting high tonight or your dying right now." Alcohol is sold in every store. If you dont drink, you more than likely *gasp* ignore it!

 
OnTheFence 2008-10-12 09:52:38 AM  
Just raising my hand to join the wake-n-bake crowd.

my favorite time of the day

 
3steps 2008-10-12 10:00:12 AM  
Sheriff Mike Hale said he didn't initially appreciate the magnitude of what his drug investigators were uncovering.

"It would be impressive if it was a legitimate business," he said.


It's quite impressive period. And it SHOULD be a legitimate business.

The War on Drugs costs far too many lives and too much money.

Has to be one of the single most assinine set of laws inflicted upon the American Public.

 
aszure 2008-10-12 10:02:07 AM  
BuyNLarge: Legalize it and tax it. Government would make enough in 2 weeks to cover that $700 billion bailout...

Well said sir.

 
smasho 2008-10-12 10:03:41 AM  
Damn, what a shame. All that pot going to the evidence locker to be stolen by more police for free-- talk about a drain on Alabama's economy.

Of course, if it was legal, that'd all be injected into the economy as funds generated by self-sustaining agriculture. The state could even tax it, if so assholishly inclined.

 
Bathysphere 2008-10-12 10:04:45 AM  
I live in Ky and it's dry as hell around here! You'd think with Mary Jane being supposedly our biggest cash crop, that it would be like plucking it fro ma farking tree, but no! I have to go up to Cinci and deal with alot of BS.

 
smasho 2008-10-12 10:04:54 AM  
And, THAT, ladies and gentlemen, is why I shouldn't type on Fark in the AM-- my comments are redundant by the time they're composed.

 
theToadMan 2008-10-12 10:14:02 AM  
OnTheFence: Just raising my hand to join the wake-n-bake crowd.

my favorite time of the day


That sounds like a grand idea. I'll be back in a few minutes

 
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