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(National Review) Interesting McCain might still win this thing because the economy will stop imploding within the next few weeks   (article.nationalreview.com) divider line 137
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And-1 2008-10-11 05:07:51 AM  
I am not sure which of those two phrases is more absurd.

 
RevMercutio [TotalFark] 2008-10-11 05:10:19 AM  
From TFA:

Ayers was on recent record as lamenting that he had not set off enough bombs,

This sinks Hanson's entire thesis, as it isn't true. It's surmised from taking one line out of context from a newspaper interview. Every single person who keeps rehashing this point is lying, plain and simple.

 
Neeek [TotalFark] 2008-10-11 05:36:43 AM  
And-1: I am not sure which of those two phrases is more absurd.

I have to go with the "economy will stop imploding" part. There are ways McCain could win. Obama could sacrifice a baby to Satan or something. The economy recovering within the next few weeks? I got nothing.

 
sloppy shoes 2008-10-11 05:39:20 AM  
FTA: So there is a quiet unease among the voters, as there always is in America, when someone finger-points and lectures them what they must do - or else!

The irony of this statement is as recluse from the Author as Republicanism is from modern American societal discourse. Open rhetoric prefaced upon exclusion has smothered the public's view of reality and intellectualism. If Democracy reaches the brink of destruction- that we honestly believe a vote is premised upon a choice between destruction or change, no matter the decision- then our Republic has chosen Fascism of political spectrum. We have chosen free speech as the foundation of our governmental policy; yet, honest freedom rests upon the brevity of voice and the duration of choice.

 
sloppy shoes 2008-10-11 05:47:05 AM  
...Fascism of polemic political spectrum...

 
simplemac [TotalFark] 2008-10-11 05:48:49 AM  
McCain might still win this thing because the economy will stop imploding within the next few weeks

right... on... schedule...

**adjusting tin foil hat**

/sorry

 
Cubansaltyballs [TotalFark] 2008-10-11 05:52:40 AM  
Psshaaa! and monkeys might fly out of my butt

 
robmilmel [TotalFark] 2008-10-11 06:19:58 AM  
NRO: Naturally Repulsive and Oblivious.

 
bigpeeler [TotalFark] 2008-10-11 06:30:05 AM  
Has anyone noticed the magical pre-election drop in fuel prices? Amazing how that works.

 
Pope George Ringo [TotalFark] 2008-10-11 06:45:24 AM  
bigpeeler: Has anyone noticed the magical pre-election drop in fuel prices? Amazing how that works.

$3.00/gal by Nov.1st, and $5.00/gal by the 4th of July! That's the plan.

 
Ra_ 2008-10-11 07:24:33 AM  
For McCain to win would take an October Surprise of Epic proportion

 
SherKhan 2008-10-11 07:55:46 AM  
the economy will stop imploding within the next few weeks

I hope so.

McCain might still win

I hope not.

/1/2 Hopey

 
keylock71 2008-10-11 08:35:19 AM  
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Three Crooked Squirrels [TotalFark] 2008-10-11 08:38:38 AM  
FTFA: The Alaskan mom of five in near suicidal fashion was ordered by the campaign to put her head in the Charlie Gibson-Katie Couric guillotine.

Because Gibson and Couric are known as the most ferocious interviewers in all of the media?

 
some_wild-eyed_8-foot_tall_maniac 2008-10-11 08:49:43 AM  
Obama's hyper-liberal, hyper-partisan Senate record

So, we can infer that the Democrats have a "hyper-liberal" party line? WTF are you smoking, Victor Hanson?

 
DamnYankees [TotalFark] 2008-10-11 08:57:53 AM  
Ra_: For McCain to win would take an October Surprise of Epic proportion

I don't even think a terrorist attack would win it for McCain. No one trusts the GOP to handle this shiat anymore, and I think Obama is finally getting most of America to have trust in his calm and intelligence.

 
t3knomanser 2008-10-11 08:58:48 AM  
Hey, could I get a few of those straws your grasping? Those bendy ones if you've got 'em. Awesome, thanks.

 
t3knomanser 2008-10-11 08:59:59 AM  
t3knomanser: Hey, could I get a few of those straws your grasping?

Bah, I shouldn't post before coffee. You're.

 
BladBoy [TotalFark] 2008-10-11 09:04:40 AM  
robmilmel: NRO: Naturally Repulsive and Oblivious.

NRO= No Realism Outpost

 
PC LOAD LETTER [TotalFark] 2008-10-11 09:12:24 AM  
I am glad the NRO can read the future. My prediction: Dow at 6000 is the bottom. Several big banks go under. Entire US auto industry goes under. Most of the US airline industry wiped out.

 
KeatingFive 2008-10-11 09:23:01 AM  
bigpeeler: Has anyone noticed the magical pre-election drop in fuel prices? Amazing how that works.

Might have something to do with people being terrified about their finances and a 6000 point drop in the Dow causng severely reduced demand. Maybe.

 
opiumpoopy 2008-10-11 09:25:47 AM  
PC LOAD LETTER:

Dow at 6000 is the bottom.
Not impossible.

Several big banks go under.
Almost certainly.

Entire US auto industry goes under.
Detroit, maybe. Killed by obsolete factories and working practices, and unreasonable unions IMHO, rather than a reliance on gas-guzzlers. The foreign manufacturers' factories in the US will be fine. And IIRC, Ford and GM are profitable in Europe and much of the rest of the world. They'll float off as separate companies (or get sold to competitors).

Most of the US airline industry wiped out.
Much of the US airline industry has already spent most of the last two decades in administration. But the US won't let in foreign competitors, so the zombie airlines never die. It'll be the same this time.

 
Ras the Exhorter 2008-10-11 09:27:12 AM  
BladBoy: robmilmel: NRO: Naturally Repulsive and Oblivious.

NRO= No Realism Outpost


NRO: Neutered Republican Operatives

/I got nothing

 
CynicalLA 2008-10-11 09:28:44 AM  
Ras the Exhorter: BladBoy: robmilmel: NRO: Naturally Repulsive and Oblivious.

NRO= No Realism Outpost

NRO: Neutered Republican Operatives

/I got nothing


Negro Really Overstepped

 
Pontus and the Nail Drivers 2008-10-11 09:29:38 AM  
Yeah, this kind of thinking does little to improve their chances of appearing to have a grip on reality.

 
DamnYankees [TotalFark] 2008-10-11 09:29:53 AM  
opiumpoopy: Several big banks go under.
Almost certainly.


Hasn't this already happened? WaMu and Wachovia?

 
Drunk Astronaut 2008-10-11 09:31:45 AM  
Someone got some good stuff over at NRO. They've lost touch with reality.

media.pegasusnews.com

 
NINTENBOXCUBESTATION 360 2008-10-11 09:31:45 AM  
Three Crooked Squirrels: FTFA: The Alaskan mom of five in near suicidal fashion was ordered by the campaign to put her head in the Charlie Gibson-Katie Couric guillotine.

Because Gibson and Couric are known as the most ferocious interviewers in all of the media?


I came here to say this

 
Running a-puck 2008-10-11 09:32:19 AM  
If I had a photbucket account there would be a big picture of Steven Tyler singing "Dream On" right here.


But I don't.

 
Notabunny 2008-10-11 09:33:36 AM  
You mean the Dow reaching 0 is good for the McCain team?

 
Running a-puck 2008-10-11 09:34:18 AM  
Huh, my keybard seems t be missing a key. Yeah... that's it... wasn't a lack f previewing.

 
Dinki [TotalFark] 2008-10-11 09:35:32 AM  
Last night I accidentally stopped on Faux news for a second- Hannity was interviewing that incredible moron Dick Morris. Morris was opining that the negative campaign was working, that Obamas negatives were going up, and his overall poll numbers were going down. It must be nice to earn your living making up stuff all the time.

 
CynicalLA 2008-10-11 09:38:55 AM  
Dinki: Last night I accidentally stopped on Faux news for a second- Hannity was interviewing that incredible moron Dick Morris. Morris was opining that the negative campaign was working, that Obamas negatives were going up, and his overall poll numbers were going down. It must be nice to earn your living making up stuff all the time.

Think about the people that rely on Fox News for all their information. They are going to be pretty confused on election day.

 
PartTimeBuddha 2008-10-11 09:39:27 AM  
FTA:
The odds always were against McCain
Quite the opposite.

And the outcome in these last few days may be seem contingent in large part on breaking news beyond the candidates' control.

Interesting: setting up argumentum ex rouletto as a strawman.

Yet McCain still has it within his own power to win the election.

Bare assertion.

Obama's view of America is mostly rosy emulation of the European Union...
Bare assertion.

McCain's is to restore fiscal sanity

By making the government everyone's mortgagee?

keep our defenses strong
Obaman intends to increase military strength, contra Rumsfeld's program.

and ensure that American exceptionalism remains a fact rather than descends into an empty slogan
American exceptionalism is a myth. There is nothing about America which takes it outside the scope of human nature.

In that context, it makes no sense to sneer at McCain for being behind
...er...

but a great deal [of sense] to hope that he isn't.

This clause makes no sense.

I was planning on putting a summary together which would ridicule the logic of TFA's concluding paragraph, but there's barely anything there at all to mock: "McCain can win the election, not by relying upon unforeseen events, but by (a) making economic and military arguments and (b) reassuring America that it is special. It is more sensible to hope that McCain is ahead than to see that he is behind."

 
Hobodeluxe [TotalFark] 2008-10-11 09:41:01 AM  
BladBoy: NRO= No Realism Outpost

Neocon Retards Only

 
Impeach Cheney First 2008-10-11 09:41:15 AM  
I can't wait for next week. Obama has, I think, clearly hit his ceiling. There's no where left for him to go. Then when McCain narrows the spread in the daily tracking poll from 11 points to 10 the media will be tripping over themselves to say, "McCain is coming back in the polls and this race is tightening! Were we too soon to write off the Maverick?"

 
MadeuLaTerestrian 2008-10-11 09:42:38 AM  
FTA No one knows anything of his record at Columbia University, how he got into Harvard Law School, or what he was doing until he reached Harvard, or exactly what he did as a community organizer in Chicago, or how a person with no record of legal scholarship was about to be offered tenure at the Chicago Law School.

Quoted for ridiculousness

 
jfc.1981 2008-10-11 09:43:38 AM  
DamnYankees: Ra_: For McCain to win would take an October Surprise of Epic proportion

I don't even think a terrorist attack would win it for McCain. No one trusts the GOP to handle this shiat anymore, and I think Obama is finally getting most of America to have trust in his calm and intelligence.


I came here to say this.

/leaves smiling and satisfied

 
Spanky_McFarksalot 2008-10-11 09:44:14 AM  
bigpeeler: Has anyone noticed the magical pre-election drop in fuel prices? Amazing how that works.

Have you read those articles that said oil prices is down to were it was 1 year ago? Do you remember that there wasn't a presidential election 1 year ago?

 
Girl From The North Country [TotalFark] 2008-10-11 09:44:15 AM  
Quick, let's get an Amber Alert out for the Unlikely tag. It has gone missing.

 
PartTimeBuddha 2008-10-11 09:44:22 AM  
No Reasoned Opinion

 
Spanky_McFarksalot 2008-10-11 09:52:20 AM  
Nuts Regularly Opine

 
bulldg4life [TotalFark] 2008-10-11 09:52:29 AM  
MadeuLaTerestrian: FTA No one knows anything of his record at Columbia University, how he got into Harvard Law School, or what he was doing until he reached Harvard, or exactly what he did as a community organizer in Chicago, or how a person with no record of legal scholarship was about to be offered tenure at the Chicago Law School.

Quoted for ridiculousness


I want to know how people accuse him of all these things about his past and then, at the same time, also rail on him because they don't know anything about him.

IT's really confusing.

 
DarnoKonrad 2008-10-11 09:53:52 AM  
Let's get down to the meat of his argument:

the absence of a conservative Reagan-like charismatic figure, sense of utter despair, The New York-Washington media elite went ballistic, near suicidal fashion, Charlie Gibson-Katie Couric guillotine, hammer the agile Obama as a charismatic charlatan, Obama's hyper-liberal, hyper-partisan, that panic, hysteria, and the "Great Depression", shameless behavior, the Wild West speculation, a politically correct entitlement, anger and panic - and any day in which hysteria, utter calamity, deer-in-the-headlights moments among Obama's handlers, ACORNs, Ayers, Khalidis, Pflegers, Wrights, et al, Obama went moribund, striking ignorance, the media slant, the celebrity rants, and the shills in popular culture, Obama's apotheosis, replete with Latinate seal, Greek columns, biblical injunctions, The creepy effect of ordering us to accept our own salvation becomes cumulative, or else! America's most predictably partisan and liberal Senator, but again in aggregate even the generalities make voters uneasy, fraud, rosy emulation of the European Union, WOLF WOLF WOLF!


There needs to be a filter to display the National Socialist Review's hyperbole in all its glory. Strip out all the junk filler -- show what they're really talking about. Loud noises.

 
Girl From The North Country [TotalFark] 2008-10-11 09:55:31 AM  
bulldg4life: MadeuLaTerestrian: FTA No one knows anything of his record at Columbia University, how he got into Harvard Law School, or what he was doing until he reached Harvard, or exactly what he did as a community organizer in Chicago, or how a person with no record of legal scholarship was about to be offered tenure at the Chicago Law School.

Quoted for ridiculousness

I want to know how people accuse him of all these things about his past and then, at the same time, also rail on him because they don't know anything about him.

IT's really confusing.


Well from a video after a McCain rally yesterday, people know Sarah Palin better than Barack Obama because she's done more TV interviews than he has.

Facts have no bearing in their world

 
nogames2k4 2008-10-11 09:56:41 AM  
This next week will be consumed with talk about Palin abusing her power and violating ethic laws while trying to paint Obama as untrustworthy.

McCain trying to tamp down the rhetoric while his foaming at the mouth "supporters" chastise him for it.

Debate on Wednesday.

Another week in this wacky election in the books.

It leaves just the last 2 weeks for Johnny McSame to pull an October Surprise out of his wrinkled old arse.

 
superlawyergirl [TotalFark] 2008-10-11 09:57:58 AM  
Three Crooked Squirrels: FTFA: The Alaskan mom of five in near suicidal fashion was ordered by the campaign to put her head in the Charlie Gibson-Katie Couric guillotine.

Because Gibson and Couric are known as the most ferocious interviewers in all of the media?


Exactly. Even then the campaign thought they'd chosen easy enough interviewers for the job and that Palin was at least capable enough to sit through a couple rounds of questions with them. She is running for the position of Vice President, after all.

I would love to see a recording of their reactions to Palin's interview responses....

 
Xai 2008-10-11 10:01:36 AM  
the economy stop imploding in a few weeks? What are you smoking, subby?

Even if stocks stop plummeting, trillions have already been wiped off the markets, pensions and savings have been crippled and national debt is through the roof.

Companies are going to have to cut costs as the rate of inflation rises. American jobs will be lost and goods will become more expensive.

No-one can stop the collapse now, it's already years too late for that. The question now is who is best to limit the damage and piece the economy back together over the coming years.

 
RussianPooper [TotalFark] 2008-10-11 10:01:59 AM  
bulldg4life: MadeuLaTerestrian: FTA No one knows anything of his record at Columbia University, how he got into Harvard Law School, or what he was doing until he reached Harvard, or exactly what he did as a community organizer in Chicago, or how a person with no record of legal scholarship was about to be offered tenure at the Chicago Law School.

Quoted for ridiculousness

I want to know how people accuse him of all these things about his past and then, at the same time, also rail on him because they don't know anything about him.

IT's really confusing.


For these people, "no one knows anything of his record..." is really, "no one has, without solicitation, told me literally to my face, or virtually, on the shows I watch." Reading is too much trouble.

 
WorldCitizen [TotalFark] 2008-10-11 10:03:06 AM  
I'm sorry. I had to stop reading this one when the author began blaming the train wreck that is Palin on the "New York - Washington media elite." Don't try to blame your own idiocy on the media.

 
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