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(Huffington Post) Interesting Ken Burns, perhaps the greatest documentarian of American history we've ever had, chimes in on John McCain. Unsurprisingly, he's not thrilled   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 91
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DamnYankees [TotalFark] 2008-10-05 07:42:22 PM  
Ken Burns is utterly fantastic. We're lucky to have him.

 
namegoeshere 2008-10-05 08:02:15 PM  
This sums it up so well. Although I have never voted GOP, I once said of a McCain victory, "I'd be okay with that."

Now, possibly even more than with W four years ago, I feel that it is a matter of the life and death of this country that we keep McCain out of the Whitehouse.

 
bulldg4life [TotalFark] 2008-10-05 08:08:35 PM  
I'm convinced that people still willingly supporting McCain really honestly believe that the John McCain running for president is the late-90s version.

 
CheddarPants [TotalFark] 2008-10-05 08:41:40 PM  
bulldg4life: I'm convinced that people still willingly supporting McCain really honestly believe that the John McCain running for president is the late-90s version have no clue.

ftfy

 
strangeguitar 2008-10-05 08:48:27 PM  
DamnYankees: Ken Burns is utterly fantastic. We're lucky to have him.
That's basically what I came here to say.
I can't wait for his doc on National Parks (comes out in 2009)

 
UNC_Samurai [TotalFark] 2008-10-05 09:14:37 PM  
Will he slowly pan over still pictures of McCain while zombie Shelby Foote discusses politics?

 
CtrlAltDelete [TotalFark] 2008-10-05 09:16:41 PM  
Here's my impression of every Ken Burns documentary ever made:

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Coco LaFemme [TotalFark] 2008-10-05 09:20:34 PM  
I'm watching The Civil War right now. I remember when it debuted, I watched it with my dad because he's a huge Civil War buff.

 
DamnYankees [TotalFark] 2008-10-05 09:31:33 PM  
CtrlAltDelete: Here's my impression of every Ken Burns documentary ever made:

Are you trying to say its bad? I love his style.

 
DamnYankees [TotalFark] 2008-10-05 09:32:09 PM  
Coco LaFemme: I'm watching The Civil War right now. I remember when it debuted, I watched it with my dad because he's a huge Civil War buff.

Me too. Reading this article inspired me to crack open my DVD set. I also have the full set of Baseball.

Love it.

 
CtrlAltDelete [TotalFark] 2008-10-05 09:42:34 PM  
DamnYankees: Are you trying to say its bad? I love his style.

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Quel [TotalFark] 2008-10-05 09:44:18 PM  
Ken Burns gave the commencement speech at my college graduation. Very smart guy in general, not just directing. Gave the best speech I've ever actually seen in person.

 
Bufu [TotalFark] 2008-10-05 09:47:20 PM  
He's a pompous blowhard...tried watching his jazz and baseball docs and wound up frustatingly fulminating at the screen...he's so damned full of himself.

Who gives a fark what he thinks about the political scene?

 
DamnYankees [TotalFark] 2008-10-05 09:52:38 PM  
Bufu: Who gives a fark what he thinks about the political scene?

He's smart and has a special insight into the history of the country. Why would we *not* listen to him?

Bufu: He's a pompous blowhard...tried watching his jazz and baseball docs and wound up frustatingly fulminating at the screen...he's so damned full of himself.

Maybe the least accurate description of a filming style as anyone has ever uttered.

 
bulldg4life [TotalFark] 2008-10-05 10:01:30 PM  
DamnYankees: Why would we *not* listen to him?

Because he doesn't support McCain which seems to really piss Bufu off. You shoulda seen him attack Springsteen.

 
Quel [TotalFark] 2008-10-05 10:08:26 PM  
Bufu: He's a pompous blowhard...tried watching his jazz and baseball docs and wound up frustatingly fulminating at the screen...he's so damned full of himself.

Who gives a fark what he thinks about the political scene?


Oh, is this the thread where we rant about something that most people like just to seem hip and counter-culture? I haven't seen one of these in awhile.

 
Bufu [TotalFark] 2008-10-05 10:15:11 PM  
Oh, bother, suck it, you jackasses.

And, yes Springsteen blows, too.

All hail Mr. Burns.

 
veedeevadeevoodee [TotalFark] 2008-10-05 10:26:42 PM  
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RedEyedWings 2008-10-05 10:55:28 PM  
Bufu: Oh, bother, suck it, you jackasses.

And, yes Springsteen blows, too.

All hail Mr. Burns.


Grapes this sour don't even make good whine.

/that was a pretty good piece, I imagine it sums up how a fair number of people are feeling about McCain these days

 
Undiluted 2008-10-05 11:23:34 PM  
Huh...now why exactly might someone be unhappy at John McCain, not to mention the entire GOP...


Hey, didn't something happen on 9/11 a couple years ago? Was that important? I can't remember, John McCain doesn't seem interested in it.

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holiday_inn_in_cambodia 2008-10-05 11:24:21 PM  
www.mpbn.net
"he likes ken burns more than me?? *sniff*"

/writers count too

 
axeeugene 2008-10-05 11:26:31 PM  
Paraphrased from a film by a real director:

"Private Burns, you make movies like old people fark, do you know that?"

Burns's movies are ineffable bores. He can take a vibrant, interesting, sexy, challenging subject and turn it into the dullest experience on the planet. CtrlAltDelete is spot on, whether his post is criticism or not. Burns's work never fails to put me to sleep, and I'm both a former history major and a jazz fan.

/not so much with the baseball.

 
holiday_inn_in_cambodia 2008-10-05 11:29:27 PM  
axeeugene: Paraphrased from a film by a real director:

"Private Burns, you make movies like old people fark, do you know that?"

Burns's movies are ineffable bores. He can take a vibrant, interesting, sexy, challenging subject and turn it into the dullest experience on the planet. CtrlAltDelete is spot on, whether his post is criticism or not. Burns's work never fails to put me to sleep, and I'm both a former history major and a jazz fan.

/not so much with the baseball.
waaaaaaaaah I have a short attention span


documentaries aren't action movies, tardo. ken burns makes some of the best ones i've ever seen. he talks about and tells and shows what INTERESTS me.

 
NYZooMan 2008-10-05 11:35:51 PM  
This thread needs more KenBurnsEFX.

 
luckykobold 2008-10-05 11:36:41 PM  
If you recall, he came out against Hillary also when she started her epic descent into despicability. Awesome.


/when historians begin to toss around the word "depression" to refer to current trends, i get scared.

 
TheAgeOfEgos 2008-10-05 11:37:58 PM  
"Ken Burns? Please God, grant me a remote!"

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RandomExcess 2008-10-05 11:38:11 PM  
When McCain returned from his extended tour of duty in Vietnam, he found that his faithful wife, a former model, was crippled from a car accident, 4 inches shorter due to the accident, in a wheelchair, and had put on considerable weight.

It did not take long for the retuning veteran John McCain to begin several affairs, neglecting most of his marriage vows. He distanced himself from the rest of his vows by filing for divorce. An overweight, cripple in a wheelchair was not the spouse he had married and she would not be any help in a projected foray into the political arena.

Lucky John, as he was referred to by his Academy classmates, met Cindy, heiress to an alcohol fortune, in Hawaii. McCain almost exclusively cheated on his first wife with Cindy from that point until his divorce. It was her family's fortune that would fund McCain's political career.

John McCain was always a short, angry, out of control, spoiled brat. But now he had a meal ticket. And endless access to alcohol. Cindy has said on many occasions that John's angry side only comes out when he has been drinking. Or when he was in a room with other people. Or if he was outside, especially in the late spring after a shower and those damned rainbows were out.

Keating-5
Deregulation
Cut Veteran's benefits
The War to Nowhere
Cancer
Cancer
Cancer
More Cancer
Failing Mental faculties

Gotta give him credit, the scion of line of Admirals has carved out his own life. On his terms. Full speed ahead, dam the torpedoes.

 
Marley 2008-10-05 11:38:49 PM  
The fierce bipartisan warrior, the straight talker, the maverick whose ideas nearly everyone found some common ground with now seems missing in action. He seems to have betrayed the very attributes that originally commended him to us and earned our earlier trust and support.

Bingo.

 
MorganGuard 2008-10-05 11:43:13 PM  
Pretty much sums up how I felt about MCCain in the past, but cannot see in the McCain of 2008.

 
bartink 2008-10-05 11:44:23 PM  
Bufu: He's a pompous blowhard...tried watching his jazz and baseball docs and wound up frustatingly fulminating at the screen...he's so damned full of himself.

Who gives a fark what he thinks about the political scene?


Someone's panties are too tight again.

 
tomcatadam 2008-10-05 11:45:02 PM  
I have this nagging...hope, that McCain is doing this all so that when he gets the presidency, he can surprise everyone and tell the GOP to fark off.

Of course, I hope for a lot of strange and funny things.

 
I_Approve_Of_This_Message 2008-10-05 11:45:12 PM  
The answer is obvious: When it was clear he was to be the nominee, his first assignment was to go visit the headquarters of the Republican National Committee and get fitted for his mandatory shock collar.

Why do you think he looks so uncomfortable and miserable all the time? His RNC overlords deliver a tiny zap every time he thinks an impure thought about market regulation or protecting the wages of the working class.

 
Bacontastesgood 2008-10-05 11:47:09 PM  
We in New Hampshire bear some responsibility, I suppose. Thinking we had the old McCain, we gave him a decisive victory in our primary that permitted him to vanquish those challengers.

Maybe you jive turkeys shouldn't go first anymore, huh? It was pretty freakin' clear in oh, 2006 that the old McCain of 2000 was gone, chowderhead.

Back of the line for a century, New Hampshire. Yes, after Puerto Rico and Guam.

 
Attar 2008-10-05 11:50:37 PM  
by far the best ken burns documentary is the one on Nassa

Link (new window, rickroll free)

shame on all you farkers for not posting this sooner.

 
Bacontastesgood 2008-10-05 11:50:40 PM  
Best takeoff of Ken Burns style ever. Worth every second of the 10 minute running time. Get yerself a beverage and settle in:

The Old Negro Space Program (pops)

 
Goodfella 2008-10-05 11:53:07 PM  
This is actually pretty significant, considering that Ken Burns tends to be pretty pro-Republican and conservative in his documentaries.

That right-wing propaganda piece he did on Huey Long was as bad as O'Reilly or Fox News & Friends.

 
RandomExcess 2008-10-05 11:53:51 PM  
Maybe I over analyze the works of Ken Burns, but I see the topic as a McGuffin. It is there to provide a backdrop to examining culture, society, and humanity. Ken Burns tells the story of individuals, real life people. People with positive and negative traits. People with the traits that were common at the time the individual lived.

The baseball documentary is a telling history of the late 19th and 20th centuries. As the game changes and new heroes come and go, so it is true about America in general. The racial tensions in America are echoed in baseball.

 
Attar 2008-10-05 11:54:28 PM  
ha ha Bacontastesgood, beat you to it!

 
Courtney Cox-Zucker [TotalFark] 2008-10-05 11:57:10 PM  
Bufu: He's a pompous blowhard...

If the world ignored pompous blowhards, no one would even be talking about McCain right now.

 
LikeTheSearchEngine [TotalFark] 2008-10-05 11:57:26 PM  
namegoeshere: This sums it up so well. Although I have never voted GOP, I once said of a McCain victory, "I'd be okay with that."

Now, possibly even more than with W four years ago, I feel that it is a matter of the life and death of this country that we keep McCain out of the Whitehouse.


I had managed to convince myself that McCain's insanity and incoherence was just his 200 self pandering like mad and trying to tiptoe his way into both the nomination and into getting the support of his party.

With that assumption, I had resigned myself to being "OK" with a McCain presidency, though I am voting Obama.

With his pick of Palin to accompany his 72-year-old cancer-ridden self, his presidency would be a disaster... in that we could end up with the nutjob Palin in office.

 
chiett 2008-10-05 11:58:35 PM  
Wow. only three Daily KOS and three Huff'n puff reports today.

You guys should save the time and just link to the Obama web sight directly.

Oh and while your there, give them some more of your money.


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sheep

 
apistat 2008-10-05 11:59:56 PM  
Bacontastesgood: We in New Hampshire bear some responsibility, I suppose. Thinking we had the old McCain, we gave him a decisive victory in our primary that permitted him to vanquish those challengers.

Maybe you jive turkeys shouldn't go first anymore, huh? It was pretty freakin' clear in oh, 2006 that the old McCain of 2000 was gone, chowderhead.

Back of the line for a century, New Hampshire. Yes, after Puerto Rico and Guam.


To be fair, the other options were Romney, Huckabee and Thompson, basically.

 
rogue49 2008-10-06 12:00:46 AM  
I think the problem for McCain is two-fold.

First, he seems to believe in himself and his values so much,
that he seems to be indignant that he has to fight against this "person"
(youngster, non-senior senator, black, hippie, etc, etc)

Second, he's been beaten so much after so many national elections,
that he's gotten to the point of being beyond Machiavellian.

So now its anything goes, anything to make a mark
and who are you to go against me?

The admiral's son has let his hubris and frustration get the best of him.

 
Bacontastesgood 2008-10-06 12:01:40 AM  
Attar: ha ha Bacontastesgood, beat you to it!

Damn, three freakin seconds. If I hadn't embellished with that beverage comment!!!

I just watched the whole thing again. Genius stuff.

 
maddermaxx 2008-10-06 12:01:48 AM  
It's going to be an interesting last month I think, to see how far McCain will sink - both in the polls and into dishonor.

I was just looking at the websites for both candidates now, for the first time, and decided to check out the ads section. Quite a few of Obama talking to the camera, or positive messages, mixed in with attack ads, about 50/50 I'd say.

On McCains? I thought I'd gotten the pages mixed up, as looking at the thumbnails, there was almost nothing but Obama, and the only one with a picture of Palin turned out to be her attacking Obama anyway. Scrolling down, you do get a few non-attack ads, which usually turn out to be about provoking fear anyway. I looked through quite a few, and the only ones with McCain talking that I saw were clips of a speech in a web-ad, and his laughably condescending "convention message".

If McCain had stood up for what he believes in, he could have made this campaign about John McCain. There were a hell of a lot of McCain supporters, even here on fark, especially during the primaries, and reminiscing about his 2000 run. But as it is, his last hope is in simply trying to knock down his opponent, and at the moment, that looks like so much useless flailing.

 
DasRaven 2008-10-06 12:02:41 AM  
October Suprise! (pops)
McCain's Charles Keating problem about to make the news again.

 
Bacontastesgood 2008-10-06 12:03:08 AM  
apistat: To be fair, the other options were Romney, Huckabee and Thompson, basically.

How dare you leave out the farkers' favorite, to support and to laugh at.

 
Resin33 2008-10-06 12:04:17 AM  
namegoeshere: This sums it up so well. Although I have never voted GOP, I once said of a McCain victory, "I'd be okay with that."

Now, possibly even more than with W four years ago, I feel that it is a matter of the life and death of this country that we keep McCain out of the Whitehouse.


I used to have the same feeling.... that Obama v McCain would be a win/win. Not anymore.

Oh, and I thought Michael Moore was the greatest?

/ducks

 
alostpacket [TotalFark] 2008-10-06 12:04:50 AM  
chiett: Wow. only three Daily KOS and three Huff'n puff reports today.

You guys should save the time and just link to the Obama web sight directly.

Oh and while your there, give them some more of your money.


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sheep


vinestreetchronicle.com

 
axeeugene 2008-10-06 12:06:12 AM  
holiday_inn_in_cambodia

waaaaaaaaah I have a short attention span

documentaries aren't action movies, tardo. ken burns makes some of the best ones i've ever seen. he talks about and tells and shows what INTERESTS me.


Try again, "genius." The entirety of Leni Riefenstahl's "Triumph of the Will," which I have seen at least a half dozen times, is more tolerable than a Burns doc, and it features some of the most ridiculous and bloated Nazi Party speeches and laughable parades one can imagine.

Errol Morris knows how to make documentary pictures. I'd watch "The Fog Of War" 100 times over before I'd sit through a segment of "The Civil War" again. And it ain't no action movie.

Oh, and Kubrick made more than so-called "action" movies, cretin.

 
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