Well, that is news. I'd have never guessed.

Great albums, but bands have to sell out, I mean BUY IN to Rick Rubin's style.

Yeah I liked Metallica Black and I also understand that's when the band changed forever down a path of no return.

Oh No Melon
Well, that made my day. Thanks!

Metallica threads have de-evolved into who can post that above picture first, and reap the praises of everyone who still hasn't managed to see it yet.

I miss the days of, "I liked the band when I saw them 50 times in '85, but they suck now because of the Napster thing and they aren't true metal anymore even though I won't discuss what real metal is!!!11eleventyone"

true sludge metal

It's not Rubin's fault that he has 10000000000 times more talent than half the artists he produces.

well, nice to see TV on the Radio made Top 20. How they're not bigger is beyond me.

So...what you're saying is shiatty bands can sound good with the right producer?

WORST

MASTERED

ALBUM

EVAR.


Its sad when a better version is found in a video game then at the record store.

I've been saying this for some time. Not only has he produced some awesome albums, they span completely different styles of music:

1986: Licensed to Ill - Beastie Boys
1986: Reign in Blood - Slayer
1987: Yo! Bum Rush the Show - Public Enemy
1994: American Recordings - Johnny Cash
1994: Wildflowers - Tom Petty
2003: De-Loused in the Comatorium - The Mars Volta (with Omar Rodriguez-Lopez)


well to be fair there was some really bad shiat in his wikipedia list as well...

AuralArgument HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

A typical Metallica fan would wet himself and cry for mommy if exposed to Electric Wizard.

One of the reasons I have such contempt for Metallica. They are only mediocre but I despise their fans the most. Metallica fans are dumb shopping mall kids who think Metallica is "dark" and "radical" but their music is utterly user friendly corporate drivel.

Electric Wizard
Sons of Otis
Godflesh
High on Fire
.....these guys are truly dark and heavy.

(actually,there are a couple of Mogwai songs that are much heavier than anything Metallica has ever vomited out. Check out "My Father,My king" and "Like Herod")

craigdamage: AuralArgument HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

A typical Metallica fan would wet himself and cry for mommy if exposed to Electric Wizard.

One of the reasons I have such contempt for Metallica. They are only mediocre but I despise their fans the most. Metallica fans are dumb shopping mall kids who think Metallica is "dark" and "radical" but their music is utterly user friendly corporate drivel.

Electric Wizard
Sons of Otis
Godflesh
High on Fire
.....these guys are truly dark and heavy.

(actually,there are a couple of Mogwai songs that are much heavier than anything Metallica has ever vomited out. Check out "My Father,My king" and "Like Herod")

I don't think I have ever heard Metallica labeled as "dark" or "radical".
If we want to make sweeping judgments. Your post typifies the judgemental metal head prick who thinks the only way to be "metal" or "brooootal" is to like some no name, only has a limited number of fans, from some European country, black metal band. If your "metal" bands were ever to make it big, which they wouldn't, you would discard them as fast as the used tampon you suck on.

/oh wait
// MESGUUUUGGGGGAAAAA!!!!
///there

Great album, awful production. Support the artist, buy the cd, and then get the guitar hero 3 version from a certain harbor or gulf or bay or something....

/YAAAAARRRRRR

Oh No Melon, how have I not seen that before?

/i LOL'd

craigdamage: Metallica fans are dumb shopping mall kids who think Metallica is "dark" and "radical" but their music is utterly user friendly corporate drivel.

What, should I have to crack an encryption or something? Or do you mean it's friendly to users, and you think people should avoid music that doesn't hate them and want their ears to die?

InternetLOL: craigdamage: Metallica fans are dumb shopping mall kids who think Metallica is "dark" and "radical" but their music is utterly user friendly corporate drivel.

What, should I have to crack an encryption or something? Or do you mean it's friendly to users, and you think people should avoid music that doesn't hate them and want their ears to die?

I think his point is that compared to artists who play similar music their style is much more accessible.

craigdamage: (actually,there are a couple of Mogwai songs that are much heavier than anything Metallica has ever vomited out. Check out "My Father,My king" and "Like Herod")

THIS.


Metallica aren't bad. They were great compared to most of their peers in the 80s, but now they seem more like a band trying way too hard to be hip.

/adds craigdamage to his list of people with awesome music taste.

The first time I ever put a pair of headphones on, Seek and Destroy came blaring into my brain. It was 1981, and I soon learned the madness behind the sound I experienced was a "new" band named Metallica.

I've listened though the years, liking most, but then mostly despising recent efforts. I even found a few points of merit in Load and Reload...but S&M blew, and St. Anger was an absolute abomination.

Oddly, Death Magnetic is starting to grow on me a little. It's hard to differentiate the tracks from one another, but the first four songs are fairly decent, anyway. Despite the first five minutes or so of The Day That Never Comes, I can hear them in there. Somewhere....trying to come back out.

Overall, though...it seems like the anger...the fire is gone. Ride and/or Master it is not. Then again, 1986 it is not either. And yes, the mastering blows - I've had to create a seperate EQ setting in iTunes to make it listenable. Still not great, though. Stop trying to sing, James!

It is an improvement, though...I can hear why it's doing fairly well.

Well,I do admit a fond affection for "Cliff era" Metallica. (probably because I am a bassist)

I meant "user friendly" as in NOT threatening and basically digestible to any casual music/pop listener.

phoenixdan called me a "metal head prick" HAHAHAHA!

I listen to more Coltrane and Stravinsky than metal you silly child.

....and actually,Lars once claimed "Godflesh is the HEAVIEST band in the universe"

Those bands I listed are American,Canadian and British.
They are only obscure to people who remain restrained within the confines of the mediocre black and white mainstream music world.

If you are a typical Metallica fan---fine.
Just know this:
you are cut from the same stock as any other brainless-tasteless
mainstream pop listening Britney,No Doubt,Nickelback,Creed fan.

If you can find one Creed fan in the world who also also owns a copy of "Dopethrone" or "Blessed Black Wings" on cd I will eat a plate of my own sh*t in hell.

I know "Metallica fans" who are also into Hootie and Dave Matthews.

Losers.

....btw--I totally admit I AM being a full on asshole here in this thread and to phoenixdan-- he really did "out" me on that one. ("prick")


Saturday.



Drunk since noon.

Man, I don't even OWN a television.

craigdamage is soooooo hardcore.

AuralArgument: true sludge metal

I love you.

AuralArgument: true sludge metal

I checked those guys out on a recommendation from a friend since I'm really into the Sword and enjoy heavy doses of Corrosion of Conformity and Down's first album. I couldn't stand EW. They have this huge, massive sound, but they don't do dick with it. I felt like I was listening to a down-tempo, down-tuned "Bela Lugosi's Dead" being played through a too-cheap stereo.

Best active metal band whose name starts with an "M"?



That is all.

FeedTheCollapse: well, nice to see TV on the Radio made Top 20. How they're not bigger is beyond me.

This. I wasn't sure about it at first, but Dear Science is a real grower and its farking brilliant. I can't wait to see them in Nov.

I am not naming anyone in particular, or even singling out this thread, but does anyone else wonder if there are people who have developed a new trolling style where they hit Google hard whenever a Metallica thread gets posted to come up with some metal band nobody has ever heard of and be the first to use it on Fark?

carmody: It's not Rubin's fault that he has 10000000000 times more talent than half the artists he produces.

Well that and hes a racist, he wanted to name the black crowes the Kobb Kounty Krows.

SharkTrager: I am not naming anyone in particular, or even singling out this thread, but does anyone else wonder if there are people who have developed a new trolling style where they hit Google hard whenever a Metallica thread gets posted to come up with some metal band nobody has ever heard of and be the first to use it on Fark?

Whaddya mean? You're not hardcore if the bands you listen to couldn't sell out the corner pub. Popularity = suck, didn't you know that?

Take the subject of the thread as your prime example - The Black album thrust Metallica into the "mainstream", if by "mainstream", general popularity is inferred. It could've been another Master, and some of the folks you find stumbling around this thread would've denounced it as selling out regardless.

As for the Google bit, it's equally useful for finding the names of classical musicians to be used for the inevitable counter-attack, so as to appear much more learned in the ways of music than a typical metalhead. You're only really cool if you listen to both classical and metal, you know. Throw in some generijazz, and you've got yourself a viable denouncement, mister.

Blah blah blah. Okay. Metallica sells. We get it. They'd be doing a lot more for heavy metal if they were taking out good bands on tour.

Also, to the people biatching about Metallica threads-have you ever heard of Blabbermouth? The most retarded, judgmental, hate-filled rant ever posted about Metallica on Fark would go down as certified genius on Blabbermouth.

I like Bmouth because it occasionally gets good news about bands I like. Don't tend to stay for the comments though.

Best metal band named after capital of Belarus

slag: Best active metal band whose name starts with an "M"?



That is all.

Jesus H Satan, metalheads make me ashamed to be a metalhead.

My band's heavier than yours = My dad can kick your dad's ass. Lame.

/Grew up on Slayer, Maiden and anything inbetween.
//Was all about the riffage and sounds, not this stupid f*cking competition.
///Don't take another step, my lawn's mined.

slag: Best active metal band whose name starts with an "M"?



That is all.

Ugh. Sorry, I hate Mastodon.

Meshuggah FTW.

I'm sure all the listed bands besides Metallica are far more heavy, sludgy, rapey, dark, 'real', and METAL than Metallica. They're also more metal then Black Sabbath. And Led Zeppelin. And if you don't like those bands, I don't give a flying fark what you think.

So they ain't what they used to be, and your shiatty band is what you think they should have been. Yeah, Meslavianikshiatband is so hard it makes me pee my Metallica listening to self. Because I'm real frightened of B grade horror movie equivalent music. I actually believe my soul will be raped by a thousand demons, rather than merely having to Jump in the Fire, and then used as Charmin by whichever dark lord you prefer who is scarier than the Phantom Lord, because of how ritualistically dark the bass is plucked by their unholy black painted fingernails.

/laugh

slag: Best active metal band whose name starts with an "M"?

I guess the Melvins don't count.

phoenixdan: craigdamage:
"Electric Wizard
Sons of Otis
Godflesh
High on Fire"
[...]
If we want to make sweeping judgments. Your post typifies the judgemental metal head prick who thinks the only way to be "metal" or "brooootal" is to like some no name, only has a limited number of fans, from some European country, black metal band. If your "metal" bands were ever to make it big, which they wouldn't, you would discard them as fast as the used tampon you suck on.

Wow, I'm not really into metal and I've heard all of those bands. And half of them are North American.

SharkTrager: I am not naming anyone in particular, or even singling out this thread, but does anyone else wonder if there are people who have developed a new trolling style where they hit Google hard whenever a Metallica thread gets posted to come up with some metal band nobody has ever heard of and be the first to use it on Fark?

Is it just me, or do people always respond to hearing other people talk about bands that aren't household names by accusing them of being snobs and elitists? Why if somebody tries to turn other people onto a band that doesn't have a huge fanbase and instead of taking it as legitimate enthusiasm, somebody else always have to write it off as insincere posturing? Are we not allowed to like a band unless enough other people like them too, or to try to find other fans that will support a band struggling to get by? If we're so pleased with our knowledge of obscure bands, why do we spend so much time trying to get those bands more exposure? It's not like somebody wearing a SUNNO))) t-shirt is doing it to impress people with it.

Torc -

Why? Because it's never just: Hey, if you like old Metallica and Megadeth, you should give this band a listen! They have that same riffing that used to put the chill up my spine when I first started getting into metal. You may like them!

No, it's always the same old shiat: The band you may like sold out, they suck, and this band is much (adjective) than the poser shiat you listen to, you Hootie listening to farks RARMETALGARRRBL!

/rarmetalgarrrble.
//It's what's for Fark.

voidkat: No, it's always the same old shiat: The band you may like sold out, they suck, and this band is much (adjective) than the poser shiat you listen to, you Hootie listening to farks RARMETALGARRRBL!

Really? Because I only see one poster here doing that. I see a few posters mentioning other bands that aren't doing that at all. It's just that that kind of attitude draws the most attention. How many replies did craigdamage draw?

Torc -

Mastadon is the best band ever.
Messugah is the best band ever.
Megadeth is the best band ever.
Electric Wizard is the best band ever.

No reason why those other bands are the best band ever, but posting something like that in a thread that's clearly about Metallica, are you going to deny the implication that they're only posting to say This Band > Metallica, no matter how much more 'subtle' than craigdamage? Or did those other bands get produced by Rick Rubin too? Is that the connection? And this is not the only thread on the subject, in case you didn't know. I wouldn't mention it being the same old shiat, if this were new.

/METALGARRRBL

Torc: SharkTrager: I am not naming anyone in particular, or even singling out this thread, but does anyone else wonder if there are people who have developed a new trolling style where they hit Google hard whenever a Metallica thread gets posted to come up with some metal band nobody has ever heard of and be the first to use it on Fark?

Is it just me, or do people always respond to hearing other people talk about bands that aren't household names by accusing them of being snobs and elitists? Why if somebody tries to turn other people onto a band that doesn't have a huge fanbase and instead of taking it as legitimate enthusiasm, somebody else always have to write it off as insincere posturing? Are we not allowed to like a band unless enough other people like them too, or to try to find other fans that will support a band struggling to get by? If we're so pleased with our knowledge of obscure bands, why do we spend so much time trying to get those bands more exposure? It's not like somebody wearing a SUNNO))) t-shirt is doing it to impress people with it.

I am impressed at your noble crusade on behalf of these unheard bands, and sincere efforts to educate the masses.

In fact, it would be nice, really nice, if someone who had a band they liked, worked hard to get a thread here on Fark about THEIR FARKING BAND instead of raining shiat on a thread that has nothing to do with them. How much more metal and noble would it be to push hard to get a Rainbow Puppy Death thread started, with a link to the band's website, and maybe try to get a photoshop that suggests improvements for RPD's latest album cover, rather than mocking Death Magnetic's admittedly silly cover and throwing in references to these bands that don't involve bashing the band that the thread is actually about?

/There's your education of the masses.
//METALGARRRBL.

craigdamage: I meant "user friendly" as in NOT threatening and basically digestible to any casual music/pop listener.

Ah, got it.

voidkat: Torc -

Mastadon is the best band ever.
Messugah is the best band ever.
Megadeth is the best band ever.
Electric Wizard is the best band ever.

No reason why those other bands are the best band ever, but posting something like that in a thread that's clearly about Metallica, are you going to deny the implication that they're only posting to say This Band > Metallica, no matter how much more 'subtle' than craigdamage?

I think a lot of people use "greatest band ever" just to mean they like them more - it's just hyperbole, but that's beside the point. Mostly they're just mentioning those bands to draw attention to those bands. Yeah, every thread has haters who are just trying to push buttons and draw attention, but not everybody who criticizes a band or who brings up a band they like better (even using terms like "best band ever") is doing it for that reason. Why let yourself get caught up in that anyway? It's not like somebody's going to read "Metallica sux, Messugah rulez!" and think, "oh, hmm, maybe Metallica does suck...I should stop liking them."

Or did those other bands get produced by Rick Rubin too? Is that the connection? And this is not the only thread on the subject, in case you didn't know. I wouldn't mention it being the same old shiat, if this were new.

The Megadeth connection should be obvious. The other bands are active metal bands, which seems like a good enough reason to discuss them. If you limited the content of a thread to glowing praise of only the subject, there'd be like eight posts in each thread. In any case, I was only responding to the argument that people bring up about obscure bands to troll, which really doesn't make much sense anyway since the bands mentioned aren't really that obscure.

SharkTrager: I am impressed at your noble crusade on behalf of these unheard bands, and sincere efforts to educate the masses.

Eh, it's not noble. A band I like isn't going to keep making music if they're not at least successful enough to keep trying.

GRRRRINDCOOOOOORE!

/ASSUUUUUCK!
//WHERE THE HELL IS THE UMLAUT BUTTON?!?!?
/// \m/

charts means what now?

I won't dispute that Rubin has the stink of success all over him and probably for good reason.


But the drums sound like SHIAT on the new record.


Awful. It sounds like a mistake.

Otherwise, it rocks.