Isn't there already a song called "The Hop"?

Making a dance music album is attack enough, right?

McCartney's not really known for his autobiographical lyrics.

I'm looking through you
Where did you go?
I thought I knew you
What did I know?

Stumpskank. We call her Stumpskank on Fark.

filth: Stumpskank. We call her Stumpskank on Fark.

*ahem*

Hopalong.

- OR -

Lucky.

NeauxFear: filth: Stumpskank. We call her Stumpskank on Fark.

*ahem*

Hopalong.

- OR -

Lucky.

Eileen.

zymurgist: Eileen.

*snort* Good one. There's also "Yoko, Part Deux."

GODDAMN YOU, HEATHER MILLS FOR BREAKING UP THE BEATLES! GODDAMN YOU TO HELLLLL!



What? Oh. Carry on then.

It's not a "dance album". In fact, the track about Heather Mills sounds just like Led Zeppelin. There's a few techno-like tracks, but it's an eclectic mix of stuff. The song "Lifelong Passion" is the best thing Paul has done since the few good Wings songs.

Paul was messing around with techno/dance/trance way back when. There was a "lost" piece for some artsy festival back in the late 60s whose name escapes me right now.

For later pieces, listen to Ou est le Soleil? (new window)
(1989)

and some Fireman samples Link (new window) (1993)

TheHopeDiamond: For later pieces, listen to Ou est le Soleil? (new window)

Yeah, as much as I dislike most of McCartney's post-Wings stuff, Flowers in the Dirt was a pretty damned decent album.

I agree entirely. Excellent album.

That's mild compared to Paul's direct attack against John and Yoko:

"Too many people going underground,
Too many reaching for a piece of cake.
Too many people pulled and pushed around,
Too many waiting for that lucky break.

That was your first mistake,
You took your lucky break and broke it in two.
Now what can be done for you?
You broke it in two."

TheHopeDiamond: Paul was messing around with techno/dance/trance way back when. There was a "lost" piece for some artsy festival back in the late 60s whose name escapes me right now.



"Carnival of Light"

/I'll take Potent Potables for $500, Alex.

That's it :)

My brain is cluttered up with my own compositions at the moment, or I would have had it.


/I'll take "The Hope Diamond" for $1000!

P. S. Too Many People was ok, but Paul got demolished by John's How Do You Sleep? Bonus: George Harrison played on it.

So Sgt. Pepper took you by surprise
You better see right through that mother's eyes
Those freaks was right when they said you was dead
The one mistake you made was in your head

Oh how do you sleep?
Oh how do you sleep at night?

You live with straights who tell you you was king
Jump when your mama tell you anything
The only thing you done was yesterday
And since you've gone you're just another day

Oh how do you sleep?
Oh how do you sleep at night?

Oh how do you sleep?
Oh how do you sleep at night?

A pretty face may last a year or two
But pretty soon they'll see what you can do
The sound you make is muzak to my ears
You must have learned something in all those years

Oh how do you sleep?
Oh how do you sleep at night?

What about the tape loops Paul created for Tomorrow Never Knows?

Today's techno whiz-kids can sit on his knee and hear about how it all started. Then, they can go see Uncle Eno.

Yep, and people have the gall to say The Beatles are overrated.

Overrated, my plump posterior.

Let's see, now, The Beatles were the first rock band to use feedback, 12-string electric guitar, backwards masking, distortion, vocals and guitar through a rotating speaker, tape loops, mellotron, synths, East Indian instruments, and cranberry sauce. They invented MTV, automatic double-tracking, heavy metal (Helter Skelter & She's So Heavy), folk rock (Rubber Soul), the concept album (Sgt. Pepper), and Aeolian cadences.

Overrated? Not so much.

Hey, I'm with you :)

TheHopeDiamond: Paul was messing around with techno/dance/trance way back when. There was a "lost" piece for some artsy festival back in the late 60s whose name escapes me right now.

For later pieces, listen to Ou est le Soleil? (new window)
(1989)

and some Fireman samples Link (new window) (1993)

It's worth noting that the Fireman project is in collaboration with Youth, and is perhaps some of the most insipid and banal trance ever recorded, which is something considering how awful that genre is as a whole right now.

Glitchwerks: TheHopeDiamond: Paul was messing around with techno/dance/trance way back when. There was a "lost" piece for some artsy festival back in the late 60s whose name escapes me right now.

For later pieces, listen to Ou est le Soleil? (new window)
(1989)

and some Fireman samples Link (new window) (1993)

It's worth noting that the Fireman project is in collaboration with Youth, and is perhaps some of the most insipid and banal trance ever recorded, which is something considering how awful that genre is as a whole right now.


There's no room in this thread for The Unbelievers.

/you have been shunned.

TheHopeDiamond: That's it :)

My brain is cluttered up with my own compositions at the moment, or I would have had it.


/I'll take "The Hope Diamond" for $1000!


That's a noble clutter. I, however, possess a useless compendium of Beatle facts.

G'head...try to stump me. :)

/wish there was a way I could make money off this
//well, I did win concert tix on the morning drive show to see Paul in 2002. I Named That Tune in One Note: Junior's Farm. The radio was still talking about me on the lunch program later that day.
///won "Beatles at the Hollywood Bowl" off the radio in 1978 (I yearn for my youth!). Thus, an addiction was born.

TheHopeDiamond: P. S. Too Many People was ok, but Paul got demolished by John's How Do You Sleep? Bonus: George Harrison played on it.

So Sgt. Pepper took you by surprise
You better see right through that mother's eyes
Those freaks was right when they said you was dead
The one mistake you made was in your head

Oh how do you sleep?
Oh how do you sleep at night?

You live with straights who tell you you was king
Jump when your mama tell you anything
The only thing you done was yesterday
And since you've gone you're just another day

Oh how do you sleep?
Oh how do you sleep at night?

Oh how do you sleep?
Oh how do you sleep at night?

A pretty face may last a year or two
But pretty soon they'll see what you can do
The sound you make is muzak to my ears
You must have learned something in all those years

Oh how do you sleep?
Oh how do you sleep at night?


Double bonus: Ringo played on it too, and at one point told John to stop. It got quite a bit nastier, if you can imagine, than the released song.

I fall in the Paul camp; however, I have to say I find the song menacing and hypnotic. And when I hear it, I always feel just a little ashamed of myself, like I'm listening into a closed-door divorce proceeding. Still, good tune to harsh lyrics.

Paul, of course, in his cheeky way, slapped back with "Let Me Roll It", which parodies John's writing at the time. Musically, I'm not a scholar, but that's what all my Beatle books say.

Still, it's notable that while John throws a roundhouse, Paul generally sticks his tongue out and says, "nyah, nyah".


/also notable - nearly 40 years after the group's demise, The Beatles show up on Fark at least weekly, and sometimes several times a week. It's really a testament to their historic world icon status - like Elizabeth I or Einstein - and when future archeologists dig up our bones, they will no doubt categorize The Beatles as deities.

Glenechocreek: Let's see, now, The Beatles were the first rock band to use feedback, 12-string electric guitar, backwards masking, distortion, vocals and guitar through a rotating speaker, tape loops, mellotron, synths, East Indian instruments, and cranberry sauce. They invented MTV, automatic double-tracking, heavy metal (Helter Skelter & She's So Heavy), folk rock (Rubber Soul), the concept album (Sgt. Pepper), and Aeolian cadences.

Overrated? Not so much.

Paradoxically overrated and underrated...few slaggers can touch their song writing. But if you can, please go ahead and post your works of genius for us.

Glitchwerks: It's worth noting...

Translated: Wah wah, wahwah WAH wahwah "I'm better than Paul McCartney, I should be a trance star" Wah wah wah waaaaaah.

Double bonus: Ringo played on it too, and at one point told John to stop. It got quite a bit nastier, if you can imagine, than the released song.

The thing that really frosted Paul was that Yoko helped John write the song. No wonder he was looking right at her when he was singing Get Back.

KwameKilstrawberry:
There's no room in this thread for The Unbelievers.

/you have been shunned.

Phony Beatle-mania has bitten the dust.

TheHopeDiamond: Glitchwerks: It's worth noting...

Translated: Wah wah, wahwah WAH wahwah "I'm better than Paul McCartney, I should be a trance star" Wah wah wah waaaaaah.

Let's see, let me think of some trance stars. There's Tiesto. There's Oakenfold. Hmm. No, I think I'll pass. As for Macca he can stay well away from it.

KwameKilstrawberry: when future archeologists dig up our bones, they will no doubt categorize The Beatles as deities.

See, that there is a band being overrated. I'm not knocking their input into modern popular music, absolute innovators, great band for sure, but that is overrating right there. Just because something's good doesn't mean that people can't go a bit stupidly overboard about it.

Also Sir George Martin needs a lot more credit: No Martin, no innovation, it wasn't all John, Paul, George and Ringo by a long shot.

filth: Stumpskank. We call her Stumpskank on Fark.

The stumpskank thread made me almost explode of laughter...

Glenechocreek: Let's see, now, The Beatles were the first rock band to use feedback, 12-string electric guitar, backwards masking, distortion, vocals and guitar through a rotating speaker, tape loops, mellotron, synths, East Indian instruments, and cranberry sauce. They invented MTV, automatic double-tracking, heavy metal (Helter Skelter & She's So Heavy), folk rock (Rubber Soul), the concept album (Sgt. Pepper), and Aeolian cadences.

Overrated? Not so much.

Don't forget 'Direct Injection'.

Arthur the Sandwich Maker: KwameKilstrawberry: when future archeologists dig up our bones, they will no doubt categorize The Beatles as deities.

See, that there is a band being overrated. I'm not knocking their input into modern popular music, absolute innovators, great band for sure, but that is overrating right there. Just because something's good doesn't mean that people can't go a bit stupidly overboard about it.

Also Sir George Martin needs a lot more credit: No Martin, no innovation, it wasn't all John, Paul, George and Ringo by a long shot.


You need to turn off your frame of reference for "dieties" for a minute and think about someone who's digging in the dirt and needs to interpret our languages in order to understand what we've left behind. That's what I meant.

I agree with you on the contribution of George Martin. Still, it could be said that Martin would have never have blossomed to his amazing potential without The Beatles.

Oh, Christ. Can't the man stop embarrassing himself already? He's already made it abundantly clear that without Lennon he's about as good as Nickelback.

/a girl loved a biker, she used to follow him across America
//but the biker didn't like her