"I was a little disappointed the media called it a tie but I think that means, when they call it a tie, that means we win," McCain said during a telephone call that was caught by cameras filming him at his campaign headquarters.

i like that mentality. i'm gonna start using that. next time i play poker, and i split a pot with someone, i'll just inform them that when they call it a tie, that means i win.

burndtdan: "I was a little disappointed the media called it a tie but I think that means, when they call it a tie, that means we win," McCain said during a telephone call that was caught by cameras filming him at his campaign headquarters.

i like that mentality. i'm gonna start using that. next time i play poker, and i split a pot with someone, i'll just inform them that when they call it a tie, that means i win.

Denial - it's not just a river in Egypt. If you tie your opponent on the topic that is your strong suit, how in the fark can you claim victory for yourself?

Girl From The North Country: burndtdan: "I was a little disappointed the media called it a tie but I think that means, when they call it a tie, that means we win," McCain said during a telephone call that was caught by cameras filming him at his campaign headquarters.

i like that mentality. i'm gonna start using that. next time i play poker, and i split a pot with someone, i'll just inform them that when they call it a tie, that means i win.

Denial - it's not just a river in Egypt. If you tie your opponent on the topic that is your strong suit, how in the fark can you claim victory for yourself?

Especially when you're behind.

No, if it's a tie, it means that no one wins and no one loses.

I guess it just shows how much he's disconnected from reality. I wonder if thinks if he complains loud enough everyone will just agree with him.

McCain '08: Seeing what shiat sticks...

McCain is an arrogant snob.

When I watched it on CNN they pretty much agreed that Obama won. Maybe someone should tell him that the entire media does not consist of Fox News.

a tie is just a fancy piece of silk that elitists wear, this was clearly a win for McCain and for Amurka.

"I think that means, when they call it a tie, that means we win," McCain said

After clearing the drool from the corner of his mouth McCain went on to say "Durrr, I like pie."

SpaceyCat: I wonder if thinks if he complains loud enough everyone will just agree with him

"If you lie long enough, the lies become the truth."

- Karl Rove

/no that's not a real quote, but it sounds about right.

That line is the next new meme.

"I was a little disappointed the media called it a tie but I think that means, when they call it a tie, that means we win."



Farking Instant Classic™, John.

"He clearly feels, even more than the foreign policy debate, this is his home turf. So if we can just escape relatively unscathed against the undisputed town hall champion in Tennessee, we'll be thrilled."


So pleeeeasse don't throw us in that briar patch!

someone needs to tell Gallup. they say Obama won the debate by 12 points and will have a new 3 day tracking out today that shows Obama up 51-43

time for another cunning stunt John. Voting no on the bailout sounds like the Maverick thing to do. You didn't draw all this attention to yourself just to eat your share of the shiat pie your buddies Gramm and Bush whipped up. No you're going to walk away from it and disown it even though your DNA is all in it.

He must believe his own press

Sometimes when you win, you really lose, and sometimes when you lose, you really win, and sometimes when you win or lose, you actually tie, and sometimes when you tie, you actually win or lose. Winning or losing is all one organic mechanism, from which one extracts what one needs.

JerseyTim: Sometimes when you win, you really lose, and sometimes when you lose, you really win, and sometimes when you win or lose, you actually tie, and sometimes when you tie, you actually win or lose. Winning or losing is all one organic mechanism, from which one extracts what one needs.

Palin couldn't have said it better. Nicely done.

/fungible

Yes, John. The press is calling the debate on foreign policy a tie. You are behind in the polls and you were unable to clearly defeat an "inexperienced" candidate that "just doesn't understand" foreign policy.

This was the debate that you were supposed to show everybody that you were the only one that could possibly be Presidential as it regards to foreign policy.

If it is declared a tie by pretty much every pundit and an Obama win by a decent percentage of snap polls, that doesn't suddenly mean you won because you said so.

neglogon: He must believe his own press

That is exactly the problem. He not only believes his own press, he believes his own rhetoric. Although, admittedly, I use the term "his own" very loosely here considering how many things are decided by his lobbyist managers and fed to him.

You rabid libruls just don't get it. When McCain was a POW they tied him up. Then he came home and ran for political office and won because of his war record. If he hadn't been tied up in the first place he wouldn't have won. Tie = Win!

I don't seem to recall him being disappointed when this was appearing BEFORE THE DEBATES EVEN STARTED!

Well this was the debate where Obama got to pimp slap McCain about Iraq. Obama could have gotten more mileage out of that.

Isn't it all subjective anyway? It's like "winning" a Fark thread.

quickdraw: You rabid libruls just don't get it. When McCain was a POW they tied him up. Then he came home and ran for political office and won because of his war record. If he hadn't been tied up in the first place he wouldn't have won. Tie = Win!

I like your style, dude.

No sense in keeping score right now -- it's just halftime. In the 2nd half, we get to see the wives in swimsuits!

RadioAaron: quickdraw: You rabid libruls just don't get it. When McCain was a POW they tied him up. Then he came home and ran for political office and won because of his war record. If he hadn't been tied up in the first place he wouldn't have won. Tie = Win!

I like your style, dude.

Thanks! Just for you I'll post this golden oldie.

quickdraw: You rabid libruls just don't get it. When McCain was a POW they tied him up. Then he came home and ran for political office and won because of his war record. If he hadn't been tied up in the first place he wouldn't have won. Tie = Win!

That makes as much sense as anything else. And it includes POW.

POW POW POW

I'm so glad the pollsters are there to tell me what to think. I wouldn't know WHAT to do without them.

bulldg4life: Yes, John. The press is calling the debate on foreign policy a tie. You are behind in the polls and you were unable to clearly defeat an "inexperienced" candidate that "just doesn't understand" foreign policy.

This was the debate that you were supposed to show everybody that you were the only one that could possibly be Presidential as it regards to foreign policy.

If it is declared a tie by pretty much every pundit and an Obama win by a decent percentage of snap polls, that doesn't suddenly mean you won because you said so.

This. Even my ridiculous Uncle conceded that Obama "did pretty well" and McCain "was off his game."

..and this is from a guy who threw a "Dead Commie Party" when Chernobyl went critical.

GaryPDX: I'm so glad the pollsters are there to tell me what to think. I wouldn't know WHAT to do without them.

You could just use the GOP talking points like normal, silly!

GaryPDX: I'm so glad the pollsters are there to tell me what to think. I wouldn't know WHAT to do without them.

statistical analysis has a known liberal bias.

bulldg4life: GaryPDX: I'm so glad the pollsters are there to tell me what to think. I wouldn't know WHAT to do without them.

You could just use the GOP talking points like normal, silly!

I'm so glad the GOP is there to tell me what to think. I wouldn't know WHAT to do without them.

Here..how's this one.

I'm so glad the DNC is there to tell me what to think. I wouldn't know WHAT to do without them.

Got any new ones?

GaryPDX: I'm so glad the pollsters are there to tell me what to think. I wouldn't know WHAT to do without them.

Ummm -- polls report on what people think, they don't tell you what to think.

Hobodeluxe: someone needs to tell Gallup. they say Obama won the debate by 12 points and will have a new 3 day tracking out today that shows Obama up 51-43

time for another cunning stunt John. Voting no on the bailout sounds like the Maverick thing to do. You didn't draw all this attention to yourself just to eat your share of the shiat pie your buddies Gramm and Bush whipped up. No you're going to walk away from it and disown it even though your DNA is all in it.

Really? Gallup had Obama +5 yesterday.

This surprises me a lot. Gallup is the pollster who is proud to say he gives Republicans the numbers they need.

"I was a little disappointed the media called it a tie but I think that means, when they call it a tie, that means we win," McCain said during a telephone call that was caught by cameras filming him at his campaign headquarters.


Um...no John, it means you're getting your ass kicked but nobody wants to actually tell you to your face.

GaryPDX: Got any new ones?

I'm so glad The Libertarians there to tell me what to think. I wouldn't know WHAT to do without them.

/just being helpful

GaryPDX: Got any new ones?

you could watch the debate and make up your own mind

But, I'm sure that's too difficult to do without your rose colored glasses.

bobbette: This surprises me a lot. Gallup is the pollster who is proud to say he gives Republicans the numbers they need.

Hunh. Does that mean Obama is really up by 20 points?

bulldg4life: GaryPDX: Got any new ones?

you could watch the debate and make up your own mind

But, I'm sure that's too difficult to do without your rose colored glasses.

I did watch it. I thought it was a wash. They are BOTH turd nuggets.

GaryPDX: bulldg4life: GaryPDX: Got any new ones?

you could watch the debate and make up your own mind

But, I'm sure that's too difficult to do without your rose colored glasses.

I did watch it. I thought it was a wash. They are BOTH turd nuggets.

I don't agree with Obama's policy decisions, but I think he kicked McCain's ass on that debate. Old johnny boy wasn't looking up to the whole thing. It wasn't anything I could put my finger on either, but something just seemed off with McCain.

GaryPDX: bulldg4life: GaryPDX: Got any new ones?

you could watch the debate and make up your own mind

But, I'm sure that's too difficult to do without your rose colored glasses.

I did watch it. I thought it was a wash. They are BOTH turd nuggets.

Care to elaborate on why?

GaryPDX: bulldg4life: GaryPDX: Got any new ones?

you could watch the debate and make up your own mind

But, I'm sure that's too difficult to do without your rose colored glasses.

I did watch it. I thought it was a wash. They are BOTH turd nuggets.

Haven't heard that one before.

Weaver95: Old johnny boy wasn't looking up to the whole thing. It wasn't anything I could put my finger on either, but something just seemed off with McCain.

I think his whole "I'll not look at Obama and derisively giggle from time to time" was a huge mistake. Reminds me of Al Gore sighing and shaking his head - condescending, rude and childish.

GaryPDX: I did watch it. I thought it was a wash.

It was a wash if you listened to it. It was all a bunch of talking points. OTOH if you watched it it was pretty clear who won. I think the point of these debates has much less to do with words and has everything to do with body language.

We'd like to think we have progressed past primate politics but it's not true. Obama didn't break a sweat. McCain OTOH....

cameroncrazy1984: GaryPDX: bulldg4life: GaryPDX: Got any new ones?

you could watch the debate and make up your own mind

But, I'm sure that's too difficult to do without your rose colored glasses.

I did watch it. I thought it was a wash. They are BOTH turd nuggets.

Care to elaborate on why?

I just think both are missing the point. Each of them have very bad ideas on various things, each with their own extreme ideas on how to govern. McCain is too far right (just for the extreme GOP, he really is more Democrat than Republican) and Obama is way too far left. I keep telling everyone I can't stand "Factions", just like our 1st President.

Weaver95:

I don't agree with Obama's policy decisions, but I think he kicked McCain's ass on that debate. Old johnny boy wasn't looking up to the whole thing. It wasn't anything I could put my finger on either, but something just seemed off with McCain.

I said this when the debate was on:

Ever end up somewhere you really do not want to be, after trying everything you could to get out of going? Some, or all, of the people will be able to pick up on that -- he seemed annoyed, tired, and it was clear he did not want to be there.

That, and he couldn't hide the fact that he hates Obama so much he can't even look at the man. It was a combination of hating the person he had to speak to/with, and being somewhere he absolutely did not want to be.

I think this is part of what makes him wildly unqualified for President -- he can't mask his emotions/body language at all.

GaryPDX: cameroncrazy1984: GaryPDX: bulldg4life: GaryPDX: Got any new ones?

you could watch the debate and make up your own mind

But, I'm sure that's too difficult to do without your rose colored glasses.

I did watch it. I thought it was a wash. They are BOTH turd nuggets.

Care to elaborate on why?

I just think both are missing the point. Each of them have very bad ideas on various things, each with their own extreme ideas on how to govern. McCain is too far right (just for the extreme GOP, he really is more Democrat than Republican) and Obama is way too far left. I keep telling everyone I can't stand "Factions", just like our 1st President.

So...you don't like them in generalities? You can't come up with anything more specific than that?

Lionel Mandrake: Weaver95: Old johnny boy wasn't looking up to the whole thing. It wasn't anything I could put my finger on either, but something just seemed off with McCain.

I think his whole "I'll not look at Obama and derisively giggle from time to time" was a huge mistake. Reminds me of Al Gore sighing and shaking his head - condescending, rude and childish.

That was another thing that struck me - McCain's utter contempt for the whole process. First he plays games with 'suspending his campaign' and then implies he won't show up to the debate....and when he DOES go he acts extremely childish. Or at least not like a presidential candidate should anyway. He just seemed very unprofessional.

Obama, on the other hand, seemed VERY professional. He brought his 'A' game, didn't dick around and seemed cool and collected. Even if I didn't agree with his answers, I could respect that he put effort into his debate prep and conducted himself in a very 'presidential' manner.

Weaver95: Even if I didn't agree with his answers, I could respect that he put effort into his debate prep and conducted himself in a very 'presidential' manner.

What about his answers didn't you agree with? I'm curious to know.

GaryPDX: I keep telling everyone I can't stand "Factions", just like our 1st President.

That is true. You do keep telling people that. Over and over and over again. Usually at the expense of logical reasons beyond that.

bulldg4life: GaryPDX: I keep telling everyone I can't stand "Factions", just like our 1st President.

That is true. You do keep telling people that. Over and over and over again. Usually at the expense of logical reasons beyond that.

Do you know why Factions are bad? Because they only serve the Faction, not the whole of America. Is that good enough explanation for you?