I watched Cool Hand Luke today. What did you do, submitter?

Don't worry, it'll never happen in the US. Here we know that the right thing to do with prisoners is to treat them like animals and keep them in unsafe, terrible conditions, forcing them to form prison gangs and become even more hardened criminals for their own protection, so that instead of leaving prison reformed or even the same people they went in, they become stone killers with a rabid hatred of society.

God bless Amurka!

Can I take your order please?

Two faces ;)




A big sloppy Bob kiss to anybody who gets the reference.

MorrisBird: I watched Cool Hand Luke today. What did you do, submitter?

Was thinking the same thing when I saw this headline.

Oh, and DblDad, I LOLed!

This happens in the U.S. all the time, nonincarceratedmitter. You only have to juice the right guard.

A lot of small town jails are like that.

hah. you mean people dont like eating green bologna?

/obviously, this didnt happen in arizona

A Dark Evil Omen: Don't worry, it'll never happen in the US. Here we know that the right thing to do with prisoners is to treat them like animals and keep them in unsafe, terrible conditions, forcing them to form prison gangs and become even more hardened criminals for their own protection, so that instead of leaving prison reformed or even the same people they went in, they become stone killers with a rabid hatred of society.

God bless Amurka!

FTFA
"Human rights groups also say torture is systematic inside Egyptian jails and police stations. The government denies this and says it prosecutes any officer who tortures detainees.'

OMG the poor prisoners in the USA don't get premium cable channels in their cells! Abuse! America #1 terrorist regime!

SpinStopper Two speeds. That is all.

the way it is now in american prisons even those who are awaiting trial (remember there really are innocents in some of these jails, being accused does not make you guilty as my appeal and subsequent "confession of error" by the US govt proves) their treatment is worse than gtmo. In some instances its the same "torture" stuff that is described there. For example sleep deprivation - yeah the guards really do wander around and knock on doors and such waking people up. The use of dogs to intimidate - regular occurance at some jails for "inmate management".

The problem with the jail food in the US though is that they spend $2/day per inmate on average, or roughly 60 cents a meal. Go try to prepare a meal for yourself on 60 cents and see how tasty it is.

No one cares when they can just say "well those people are all guilty" but when is the debt to society paid? The reality in america is never, and with 1:100 or so people current in jail, 1:30 or so having previously been in the system, at some point something has to give - my hope would be all the crazy laws the reality is that isnt very likely.

I'm not sure why it would be surprising if it doesn't happen in the US, but I wouldn't either be surprised if it was already happening in certain places in the US.

A Dark Evil Omen: Don't worry, it'll never happen in the US. Here we know that the right thing to do with prisoners is to treat them like animals and keep them in unsafe, terrible conditions, forcing them to form prison gangs and become even more hardened criminals for their own protection, so that instead of leaving prison reformed or even the same people they went in, they become stone killers with a rabid hatred of society.

God bless Amurka!

who needs rehabilitation when you have revenge?

am i right fark tough guys? are you with me?

Approves

Is concerned

subby's kind of prison:



We make no pretense
of rehabilitation here.



We're not priests, we're processors.



A meatpacker processes live animals
into edible ones.



We process dangerous men
into harmless ones.



This we accomplish by breaking you.



Breaking you physically, spiritually,
and here.



Strange things happen to the head here.
Put all hope out of your mind...



...and masturbate as little as possible.
lt drains the strength.

how do they get the money to buy take out? i thought prisoners got paid in fake money, like scripts.

I'm really getting a kick out of these replies because I'm in prison. No, really, just started a 16 hour shift. Dogs in a prison? I don't think so. Some guards can be dicks, for the most part they're decent guys but comparing a prison here to gitmo is a bit of a stretch. Inmates don't carry money, they're able to work and earn money (not much, pennies an hour) and essentially have a savings account, anything they buy is then deducted from their account. Not a big fan of the US correctional system, though.

I love prison rape.

/Republican. Digs the anal.

"HEY! Ya call this slop?? Real slop's got CHUNKS of things in it. This is more like GRUEL!"

We should follow China's example and just simply walk them down a hallway and shoot them in the head and send the family a bill for the bullet. I guarantee crime would go down one way or the other.

It's not universal but the USA has some of the worst prisons in the world. Some states have some sense of reason but they aren't in the majority.

beoswulf: OMG the poor prisoners in the USA don't get premium cable channels in their cells! Abuse! America #1 terrorist regime!
Uhhh.... you need to put down the remote and step into a place called "reality" before making a dumbass of yourself with a comment like that.

eddyatwork

We should follow China's example and just simply walk them down a hallway and shoot them in the head and send the family a bill for the bullet. I guarantee crime would go down one way or the other

Yeah, the Chinese have so little crime, they wouldn't even think about even bending the rules, say, with some added melamine, for instance.

gabrielfa: beoswulf: OMG the poor prisoners in the USA don't get premium cable channels in their cells! Abuse! America #1 terrorist regime!
Uhhh.... you need to put down the remote and step into a place called "reality" before making a dumbass of yourself with a comment like that.

He's Law and Order. And a communist! Nothing wrong with that, if you're a Red White and Blue communist.

I don't know where most of you get your ideas about prison from but they are not based in reality. There is no cable tv. You have way more to fear from the guards than you do the inmates. The food is not bad in prison, inmates cook it, jail is a different story all together. You work 8 hours a day except Sundays.

/I know
//A-0974764 is a number I will remember forever
///New River East for the loss!

Seems like it would help the local community, save the state money for the meals, and is an easy win to keep the prisoners from making trouble especially if it is a perk that can be lost.

I do not understand the headline at all... Are there people out there who honestly think prison time is easy?

Let me get this straight, the cliches are; Anal Rape, and Easy Living?

Does not compute.

/been there, done that
//don't eat the food on Sundays

If you don't like the conditions in prison, stay out of prison.

Prison is worse than jail.

Jail is where you are taken when you are too stupid to make the right decision.

Prison is where they take you for continued stupidity.

DBLDAD......DING DING DING That was funny. Is that YOUR tossed salad? Hmnnnnn

In prison, dinner was always a big thing. We had a pasta course, then we had a meat or a fish...

I'm guess this only applies for the right guys in prison in Egypt who aren't convicted of anything too harsh. The Army in Egypt used to charge their soldiers 1 Piastres a day for meals. The problem is they only paid a private about 20 Piastres a month so they would go hungry without another source of income. I would hate to think how they treat their worst prisoners.

Yoda's Pen Is: If you don't like the conditions in prison, stay out of prison.

Prison is worse than jail.

Jail is where you are taken when you are too stupid to make the right decision.

Prison is where they take you for continued stupidity.



Wrong, please try again. Ask anyone and they'll tell you that a year in state is better than four months in county. And I'm talking actual time served.

The pecking order has been established in prison, its stable. County time has shoplifters bunking with ag assault convicts or worse. And then there are the long timers who are being housed waiting for court or to be transferred to a different institution. They breeze through county and lie, cheat, steal, and outright pillage until they move on. Whats worse is the long timers who transfer through county can take advantage of the guards as well. They are more manipulative and intimidating than anything those guards are used to.

Reforming and retraining people so they can live productive lives is expensive. So is decent quality food.

Most US prisons as I understand it are privately run, and looking to make a profit.

It's pretty obvious what's going to happen. Prisons will run at the cheapest level they can, held in check only by governmental oversight that is likely itself undermanned, underfunded and largely focussed on making sure basic needs are met rather than the significantly harder job of making sure that people we put in prison are better prepared to be productive citizens when they come out.

/The free market is not the solution to everything.
//See also: medical care

The TV stuff is a rumor.

I have a friend who's daughter is in prison for selling drugs. They have a TV room but it's only on during certain times of the day. Her day is like this: wakes up, eats. Goes off to work or school. Gets lunch, returns to work or school. Then dinner, then free time.

She words odd jobs in the prison and is taking a 3/4 load at a community college that offers classes there. Her free time usually done with library time or homework. TV? It's a small set mounted up in the corner in one room. They can call out 10 minutes per day via a certain service that is collect only.

Her fear originally was from other inmates then the guards, now it's herself. Her first day there someone gave her a basket of personal care products. On her birthday someone gave her a cross stitch that they made. Another person made a frame for it so she could frame it and give it to her son. The guards are tough but this is a min security place.

She gets family visit time monthly and every so often that have family day. The visits are a few hours, the family day is a picnic event where they'll have the inmates cook/grill/etc. Often one of the local churches that has an outreach program will come to family day to provide entertainment.

She said her time in the local lockup was worse than prison. The guards had chips on their shoulders and many walked around thinking that they could hand out justice as they saw fit. There was no organization and you had everyone mixed together regardless of the crime.

Well, actually the "$2 a day to feed an inmate" figure only applies to large facilities with large inmate populations.

If you have a small lockup (i.e. a jail with a small daily population of say, 5-15 most of whom are there on weekends when drinking comes into play and domestic disturbance arrests rise, in a rural area), it's often much more efficient and economic to feed them from the local McDonalds, etc.

Reason? You have to maintain a kitchen facility, hire personnel to prepare meals, bid out for food, supplies, cleaning supplies, etc. plus you have to worry about the security of civilians interacting with inmates (everything from attacks to sex to sneaking in contraband), keeping track of cooking instruments that can be used for weapons, etc.

So, maybe it might cost $2-5 to feed a jail inmate (different than a prison inmate), but the money that goes into bidding for services, getting food, preparing it, paying for the people who prepare it, ensuring safety, ensuring a balanced meal so you don't get sued, and so on, is a big "hidden cost" not included in that figure.

Additionally, there are countless studies that show that enhancing the variety and "perceived" level of satisfaction over meals is the SINGLE biggest influence in reducing prison and jail violence.

And before you type "who cares if they shank each other" those studies refer also to violence against prison guards, nurses, doctors, civilian workers, etc. too.

(in other words, yeah, it seems like a bullshiat thing "hey they're in jail/prison, why should they get any choice about what they eat???" but sometimes an extra buck can make a huge difference, both to safety and it can actually save the taxpayer a lot more than a buck in the long run)

If the inmates are paying for it, what's the problem?

A Dark Evil Omen: Don't worry, it'll never happen in the US. Here we know that the right thing to do with prisoners is to treat them like animals and keep them in unsafe, terrible conditions, forcing them to form prison gangs and become even more hardened criminals for their own protection, so that instead of leaving prison reformed or even the same people they went in, they become stone killers with a rabid hatred of society.

God bless Amurka!

OMG U R Librul 11!!11!!

In reality, it is a total waste of resources to have revolving door prisons, but it is more important to be 'tough on crime' than to, you know, actually reduce crime

When I was younger I worked at my local Burger King and we had a special deal with the local cops to provide "unhappy meals" to suspects in the holding cells.

Cops didn't care if the food was cold and gross when it got to them.

BatardAmericain: When I was younger I worked at my local Burger King and we had a special deal with the local cops to provide "unhappy meals" to suspects in the holding cells.

Cops didn't care if the food was cold and gross when it got to them.


that's odd, I thought everything from Burger King was an unhappy meal...

In Arizona jails (don't know about prison), you can get someone outside to pay the guards to bring you the fast food of your choice. Plus a "service fee" of course.

/know a guy that did that for six months.

studebaker hoch: In Arizona jails (don't know about prison), you can get someone outside to pay the guards to bring you the fast food of your choice. Plus a "service fee" of course.

/know a guy that did that for six months.


Yeah, but who wants to eat a double whopper with cheese value meal after it was smuggled into jail rectally?

Dominoes. Can I take your order?
5 Helter Skelter Supremes? You mean our Supreme? Okay.
Okay, will that be all?
Your name? Do you prefer Charles or Charlie?
It will be about 20 minutes Mr Manson.

Who wants that when you can have the loaf?

If you have money in your pocket when you get arrested, or family brings money to the jail in the US, some jails will let you spend it on food, candy, magazines, etc.

A Dark Evil Omen: Don't worry, it'll never happen in the US. Here we know that the right thing to do with prisoners is to treat them like animals and keep them in unsafe, terrible conditions, forcing them to form prison gangs and become even more hardened criminals for their own protection, so that instead of leaving prison reformed or even the same people they went in, they become stone killers with a rabid hatred of society.

God bless Amurka!

I am for humane treatment of prisoners, but they shouldn't get take out food. It is prison, it isn't supposed to be fun. Let me guess, you think prisons should have 100 foot by 100 foot rooms, many pillows, cable tv (w/ pay-per-view), windows, and whatever they want to eat, right?

was it a turkish prison?

I don't see the problem If they're using their own funds to do this.