I was at a King Crimson show in August in NYC. It kicked massive amounts of ass. I've been seeing Crim live since the double-trio era, and I don't think I've ever seen a bad show.

Having Tony Levin on stage is a big part of that.

But I liked the rock-minus-blues-plus-classical sound...

Rush.

That is all.


/saw them back in July.
//day AFTER they were on Colbert.

SilentStrider: Rush.

That is all.


/saw them back in July.
//day AFTER they were on Colbert.

I just saw the Jethro Tull 40th anniversary concert, and it was pretty damned good. Heavy Horses, Too Old to Rock n' Roll... Thick as a Brick and Aqualung for an encore. I'll take that any day of the week.

I'll buy that Fripp was an important bridge between 70s prog rock and 80s bands like Talking Heads. And definitely Peter Gabriel, as well.

Who is Jethro Dull?

//has several Jethro Tull albums tho

My Tull albums are never dusty, or too old to rock and roll for that matter.

Coronach: My Tull albums are never dusty, or too old to rock and roll for that matter.

+1

One of the most oddest yet original albums I have ever heard.

TSD: Who is Jethro Dull?

Or King Krimson, for that matter?

I'm pretty sure Fripp would be amused at being given credit for a trend toward a genre being more "accessible".

RodneyToady: I was at a King Crimson show in August in NYC. It kicked massive amounts of ass. I've been seeing Crim live since the double-trio era, and I don't think I've ever seen a bad show.

Having Tony Levin on stage is a big part of that.

Was that the one at Nokia Theater in Times Sq.? I was at that one.
great venue- plus i got to see a guy get kicked out for recording, AND his device confiscated. awesome.

and of course- the show was awesome.

/not from that era
//mostly black metal

relayer40: RodneyToady: I was at a King Crimson show in August in NYC. It kicked massive amounts of ass. I've been seeing Crim live since the double-trio era, and I don't think I've ever seen a bad show.

Having Tony Levin on stage is a big part of that.

Was that the one at Nokia Theater in Times Sq.? I was at that one.
great venue- plus i got to see a guy get kicked out for recording, AND his device confiscated. awesome.

and of course- the show was awesome.

/not from that era
//mostly black metal

Saw that tour at the Keswick Theater in Philly... fantastic. First saw Crimson in 1984... and they were better this time.

Adding Gavin Harrison to the King is nothing short of brilliant. He's the most talented drummer out there right now, and he just ripped it up.

You know, the sad thing is that guys like the Times' critic actually believe that they have a clue.

The article wouldn't be nearly as annoying if he just came out and said, "Hey I heard a new prog rock record this week that sounds pretty good."

Saw him open for Porcupine Tree in NYC a few years back.

Was probably the single weirdest yet most interesting act I have ever seen.

Jethro Dull?

Someone's never listened to their first four albums then.

They took the blues out of rock.

Who says that's always a bad thing? It makes it a hell of a challenge to still write good rock music without falling back on the usual blues structure. Many a hack has sold millions hiding behind the blues to cover up their lack of songwriting chops.

So with prog you get a lot of swinging for the fences. When it comes together it's tremendous (Genesis/Los Endos), when it's not it's embarrassingly bad (Yes/a lot of "Topographic Oceans").

Also, King Crimson belongs in the Rock Hall. The all-star jam session alone would be a mind-blower, just to have Crimson on stage with Iggy and maybe Neil Sedaka.

Coronach: My Tull albums are never dusty, or too old to rock and roll for that matter.

I concur with this assessment. BTW, Ian Anderson's solo albums are pretty brilliant as well.

King Crimson are/were one of the few prog bands I really like. (Pink Floyd excluded. They're their own beast entirely) The rest of the genre seems pretty hit or miss even among otherwise good bands.



why is the Flaming Lips pictured on the site? I would say The Soft Bulletin resembled Pet Sounds way more than Selling England by the Pound or Larks' Tongues in Aspic...

Gratch: Ian Anderson's solo albums are pretty brilliant as well.

And there's something very cool Ian's done on tour in the past - he scouts out talented teenage musicians in the towns where he's playing and has them join the band for that night's show. Finally, a way for flute lessons to be cool.

Also, if you find Ian a really good Indian restaurant when he's in your town, he will be your friend for life.

Freedom-Endured: Saw him open for Porcupine Tree in NYC a few years back.

Was probably the single weirdest yet most interesting act I have ever seen.

If you're talking about the Deadwing tour, in Nokia Theater, with ProjeKCt 6 opening for PT, Fripp on guitar and Belew on drums... that was the show where they played Fear of a Blank Planet all the way through for the first half ("Play Traaaaainsss!" morons aside) before it'd even been recorded yet.

I have to say, that was the second most painful opening act I've ever seen. Belew on a set of Roland drums, making noise, while Fripp was masturbating with his guitar, and they sorta played KC tunes, and sorta just banged around for 20 minutes at a time otherwise... ugh. Just godawful, and I was sooo disappointed to see two gods of Prog making such tools of themselves on stage like that.

Ironically, the first worst opening act I've ever seen, opened for King Crimson in Philly's Mann Music Center on the Three of a Perfect Pair tour in 1985 or so... it was Modern English. Yes, an entire theatre full of people there to see the big bad prog monsters, and out come these Euro-weenies lisping "I'll thtop the world and melt with you!" They got booed off the stage after about 4 songs.

relayer40: RodneyToady: I was at a King Crimson show in August in NYC. It kicked massive amounts of ass. I've been seeing Crim live since the double-trio era, and I don't think I've ever seen a bad show.

Having Tony Levin on stage is a big part of that.

Was that the one at Nokia Theater in Times Sq.? I was at that one.
great venue- plus i got to see a guy get kicked out for recording, AND his device confiscated. awesome.

and of course- the show was awesome.

/not from that era
//mostly black metal

It was at the Nokia Theater, but I don't remember anyone getting thrown out. I was at the final night, I think. I could just have been oblivious though!

The venue was pretty impressive. The thing I like about Crimson shows these past couple of years is you get what seems like an hour-long "opening act" of Fripp doing Soundscapes. Maybe 25 percent of the audience is listening to it, and most of the rest don't even realize it's live music.

My top moment at that show was when they played Walking On Air. That was the first song my wife and I danced to at our wedding.

It's kinda funny if you think about it... how a group that started off as The Cheerful Insanity of Giles, Giles, and Fripp, singing about talking elephants and people digging your lawn, turned into a group that rip you apart with Thrak, and influences Tool and Primus.

Saw them open for Tool in 2002 I think....really good show. (King Crimson)

RodneyToady:

It's kinda funny if you think about it... how a group that started off as The Cheerful Insanity of Giles, Giles, and Fripp, singing about talking elephants and people digging your lawn, turned into a group that rip you apart with Thrak, and influences Tool and Primus.

And Rodney Toady. Don't forget Rodney Toady.

/wait... what?

I like prog rock because it paints a picture of a world in which humanity's two greatest weaknesses - sex and emotion - don't exist.

Ignorant McNugget: I like prog rock because it paints a picture of a world in which humanity's two greatest weaknesses - sex and emotion - don't exist.

Ever listen to Caravan?

If you're into Yes-like prog, and not into Glass Hammer^, you're really missing something.

31 Knots. Look them up.

/They're good.
//Yesgazi?

Fish's latest, 13th Star, is fantastic! I highly recommend it, a great accomplishment for the man. If you were ever a fan of Marillion, Fish's solo career is worth a listen and in particular 13th Star - it's awesome!

Would now be a good time to remind everyone that this man:



is now appearing in TV commercials for this product?

Is it just me or was that article completely unreadable?

Oh and Mercury Rev? Prog? Am I conscious?

Ignorant McNugget: I like prog rock because it paints a picture of a world in which humanity's two greatest weaknesses - sex and emotion - don't exist.

The sex exists - it's just a world where everybody's really bad at it.

/and the book said i could not fail

I've been getting into the clone prog bands lately. ELP and Yes sort of feel like untouchable legends, but it feels fine to laugh at the pompousness of Triumvirat and Starcastle.

notmtwain: You know, the sad thing is that guys like the Times' critic actually believe that they have a clue.

British rock critics can't seem to write a paragraph without slagging several varieties of music that were around before they were born.

"Who wants to read about Jim Morris an his doors on all dem Bossom Tomes an dat King Crimso when ye've herd bandslike 'Blast'."

I have been loving the band Simon Says, esp the album 'Tardigrade'. A bit like ELP in sound, but not as weird. Fine keyboard work on organ, synth, and Mellotron, and a good singer. The rest of the band is excellent as well.

I also recommend the prog-rock podcast 'Rogue's Gallery' as a fine way to discover more prog artists.

chickyraptor: "Who wants to read about Jim Morris an his doors on all dem Bossom Tomes an dat King Crimso when ye've herd bandslike 'Blast'."

"Give me Leapy Lee or Desmond Dekker anyday."

I got a friend request on last.fm from a Camel tribute band.

Wow...just...wow. I don't say this lightly, but that could very well be the worst article on music I've ever seen posted to Fark. The resurgence of progressive rock is seen in...Mercury Rev and the Flaming Lips? Not Don Caballero? Not the Mars Volta? Not Hella, Deerhoof, Minus the Bear, Atlas, or Opeth.

Hell, Animal Collective is more prog than Mercury Rev.

Torc: Wow...just...wow. I don't say this lightly, but that could very well be the worst article on music I've ever seen posted to Fark.

this

Torc: The resurgence of progressive rock is seen in...Mercury Rev and the Flaming Lips?



but but... strings and rock'n'roll!

I think the author thought prog began and ended with The Moody Blues.

I am stoked on Gavin's involvement with KC.

Just wanted to say that.

Koenjihyakkei.

That is all.

Oh, and one more thing...

That. Is. All.

Dean Frame: Is it just me or was that article completely unreadable?

Oh and Mercury Rev? Prog? Am I conscious?

No, not even remotely. The Mars Volta and Tool? Yes.

The Mercury Rev? No.

Granted, I think the Mercury Rev are awesome, but...no.

Gulper Eel slashed:

/and the book said i could not fail

+1 and much respect, though you better get your money back from the bookstore right away.