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(MSNBC) Hero Senator Schumer to Bush: "For the sake of America, tell Sen. McCain to get out of town. He's not helping"   (firstread.msnbc.msn.com) divider line 89
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Sucka_Fish [TotalFark] 2008-09-26 11:12:37 AM  
LOL! What, is the Obvious tag off, today?

 
I Said [TotalFark] 2008-09-26 11:19:30 AM  
fark yeah chuck.

McCain looks like a useless old man now, butting into everyone's business.

It's sad, really.

 
friendinpa [TotalFark] 2008-09-26 11:20:25 AM  
Right, and Chuck is always such a big help.

 
bulldg4life [TotalFark] 2008-09-26 11:21:05 AM  
Hey, just because he's not on any of the relevant committees and just because he knows dick-all about economics and just because he's not the one that came up with the conservative house republican plan and just because he never read the original bailout plan or the modified plan from the Banking committee...that doesn't mean he shouldn't be there saving the country!

 
patrick767 [TotalFark] 2008-09-26 11:24:11 AM  
McCain's just trying to ensure that when a deal is reached, he can steal the credit. It's his only chance to make up the huge deficit in voter perceptions about who will best handle the economy. The scary thing is I'm still not convinced his gambit will fail.

 
valloned [TotalFark] 2008-09-26 11:24:45 AM  
From all reports, he didn't even speak in the "meeting" yesterday afternoon. He just sat there. So he "suspended" his campaign, "rushed" back from NYC to Washington, and proceeded to do nothing except get his fact on TV.

Negotiatinos were fine before he showed up. Hopefully he will act like a presidential candidate and get on a plane to Mississippi later today to the adults can continue to make progress.

 
Diogenes [TotalFark] 2008-09-26 11:25:02 AM  
bulldg4life: Hey, just because he's not on any of the relevant committees and just because he knows dick-all about economics and just because he's not the one that came up with the conservative house republican plan and just because he never read the original bailout plan or the modified plan from the Banking committee...that doesn't mean he shouldn't be there saving the country!

To be fair, I don't think the legislators with their hands in the guts of this issue want either candidate there interfering. And to all appearances, negotiations were progressing until McCain started futzing around.

 
Hollie Maea 2008-09-26 11:25:39 AM  
Exclusive video of McCain's arrival in Washington yesterday.

Not a RickRoll (pops)

 
Diogenes [TotalFark] 2008-09-26 11:26:54 AM  
valloned: From all reports, he didn't even speak in the "meeting" yesterday afternoon. He just sat there. So he "suspended" his campaign, "rushed" back from NYC to Washington, and proceeded to do nothing except get his fact on TV.

Negotiatinos were fine before he showed up. Hopefully he will act like a presidential candidate and get on a plane to Mississippi later today to the adults can continue to make progress.


It was hysterical to see Paulson practically begging Pelosi to usher it through the Congress, when it's his own people who are holding it up.

 
oldfarthenry [TotalFark] 2008-09-26 11:26:57 AM  
i149.photobucket.com
Somebody stop me!

 
absoluteparanoia 2008-09-26 11:27:36 AM  
McCain is throwing the election. Which scares me, because it means that his party has told him something horrible is coming down the pike--and they need to blame it on the Dems.

 
bulldg4life [TotalFark] 2008-09-26 11:30:43 AM  
Diogenes: To be fair, I don't think the legislators with their hands in the guts of this issue want either candidate there interfering. And to all appearances, negotiations were progressing until McCain started futzing around.

Of course they don't want either candidate there. Obama at least realized that since he wasn't part of any of the relevant committees the best he could do is keep in contact with Dodd/Schumer/Paulson...and he has been doing that.

 
houndoggie [TotalFark] 2008-09-26 11:31:12 AM  
Except that Paulson and the Dems are crying for McCain to rally the Repubs. If he doesn't, they (the Dems) will blame McCain for the failure. Politics as usual- on both sides.

 
unremarkable asterisk [TotalFark] 2008-09-26 11:33:21 AM  
Time to get the old gang back together. McCain needs to round up the rest of the Keating 5 (yes, even the dead one) to help fix this mess.

 
ToxicMunkee [TotalFark] 2008-09-26 11:33:27 AM  
LOVED the photo op of him sitting at that table, the only grinning fool maniac there. It screamed, Look at me, I'm helping!

 
onecanshort [TotalFark] 2008-09-26 11:33:40 AM  
absoluteparanoia: McCain is throwing the election. Which scares me, because it means that his party has told him something horrible is coming down the pike--and they need to blame it on the Dems.

No he's not, they're in full support of this...look at the update from the RNC spokesman, going on the attack of Schumer for trying to make this political....didn't Schumer just say they shouldn't be making this political? WTF. What the hell are these people on?

This is blatant grandstanding by the McCain camp, every statement made by a republican so far has been nothing but campaign talking points. I knew this election was going to be a bad one, I had no idea it would be this disgusting though.

 
oldfarthenry [TotalFark] 2008-09-26 11:34:41 AM  
absoluteparanoia: McCain is throwing the election. Which scares me, because it means that his party has told him something horrible is coming down the pike--and they need to blame it on the Dems.

Holy shiat! That makes a lot of sense! Now I'm scared.

 
Psychotropic 2008-09-26 11:36:54 AM  

John McCain, true American Patriot.
Willing to suspend his campaign and risk losing the election to save America from financial ruin.

McCain*Palin 2008
Country First

 
Lando Lincoln [TotalFark] 2008-09-26 11:46:47 AM  
"I don't know much about this economy stuff, but here's what you guys have to do!"

"Someone escort gramps out of the session, please. We're busy here."

 
Blues_X [TotalFark] 2008-09-26 11:48:36 AM  
Psychotropic: Willing to suspend his campaign

He suspended nothing.

Nothing.

 
onecanshort [TotalFark] 2008-09-26 11:49:50 AM  
ToxicMunkee: LOVED the photo op of him sitting at that table, the only grinning fool maniac there. It screamed, Look at me, I'm helping!

All I can think of is that episode of Sealab with the Bizarro's....the Bizzaro Quinn is dumping salt on the Bizzaro Head of Stormy...."I'm helping! I'm helping youuuuuu"

 
Diogenes [TotalFark] 2008-09-26 11:55:58 AM  
unremarkable asterisk: Time to get the old gang back together. McCain needs to round up the rest of the Keating 5 (yes, even the dead one) to help fix this mess.

Pipe down, you. This isn't the History Channel site.

 
KIA 2008-09-26 11:57:39 AM  
And so now McCain is going to the debates after all. Interesting.

 
absoluteparanoia 2008-09-26 12:16:10 PM  
i37.tinypic.com (new window)

McCain's ad--appearing today on WashingtonPost.com

 
Bloody William 2008-09-26 12:22:39 PM  
absoluteparanoia: (new window)

McCain's ad--appearing today on WashingtonPost.com


Is that a joke?

 
Neeek [TotalFark] 2008-09-26 01:18:41 PM  
Bloody William: absoluteparanoia: (new window)

McCain's ad--appearing today on WashingtonPost.com

Is that a joke?


Yes, but it's also really appearing there.

 
absoluteparanoia 2008-09-26 02:02:45 PM  
Its on the Wall Street Journal actually... the screencap is just hosted by Washington Post.

 
Walker [TotalFark] 2008-09-26 04:17:17 PM  
media.starbulletin.com

 
lexslamman 2008-09-26 04:40:10 PM  
If McCain and Bush are such leaders, why can't they unify their party behind a bipartisan compromise? If McCain and Bush can't even lead the Republican Party, how the fark are they fit to lead the United States of America?

 
Thrakkerzog [TotalFark] 2008-09-26 04:40:35 PM  
valloned: From all reports, he didn't even speak in the "meeting" yesterday afternoon. He just sat there. So he "suspended" his campaign, "rushed" back from NYC to Washington, and proceeded to do nothing except get his fact on TV.

Hey man, that chair won't keep itself warm.

 
DaScribbler 2008-09-26 04:41:41 PM  
valloned:

Negotiatinos were fine before he showed up. Hopefully he will act like a presidential candidate and get on a plane to Mississippi later today to the adults can continue to make progress.


You leave the mexicans out of this!

/got nothin

 
awutwut 2008-09-26 04:42:39 PM  
Don't worry Obama has already fixing the problem. Everything is fine. Change.

 
neddddavis 2008-09-26 04:43:03 PM  
Palin/Mccain

coont First!

 
cameroncrazy1984 [TotalFark] 2008-09-26 04:43:41 PM  
awutwut: Don't worry Obama has already fixing the problem. Everything is fine. Change.

No Child Left Behind in action, folks.

 
neddddavis 2008-09-26 04:44:19 PM  
I said coont First!!! Dammit

 
FunkOut [TotalFark] 2008-09-26 04:45:08 PM  
My theory on McCain is that he's a gambling addict and he keeps doing things to win bets with insane rich friends of his.

"What if I pick that Alaskan chick as running mate?"
"You're crazy, man, you'll never do it."
"How much you wanna bet?"

And the biggest pot that remains to be won is if he does all kinds of strange or stupid things and still wins the presidency.

 
FishingWithFredo 2008-09-26 04:45:16 PM  
Will say it repeatedly so long as the Democrats continue to lie in an attempt to help Obama.

The Congressional Democrats -- who are the ones who demonstrably caused this mess, by the way -- were worried that McCain might conceivably get some credit for any solution that was come up with, so they announced a deal before McCain got to Washington.

There was no deal; House Republicans were not on-board, and everybody knew it. But the Democratic leaders' top priority was making sure McCain scored no political points.

You gotta have your priorities, after all.

 
downtownkid 2008-09-26 04:46:32 PM  
Please. Schumer is the Congressional equivalent of an ambulance chaser. Guy would advocate raping orphans if it got him camera time and polled well.

 
InmanRoshi 2008-09-26 04:48:39 PM  
If the Democratic message machine were half as sophisticated as the Republican's, John McCain's name would be as linked to the word "erratic" as John Kerry's was to "flip flopper". They're going to try, but let's see how effective they are.

 
lexslamman 2008-09-26 04:49:05 PM  
FishingWithFredo: Will say it repeatedly so long as the Democrats continue to lie in an attempt to help Obama.

The Congressional Democrats -- who are the ones who demonstrably caused this mess, by the way -- were worried that McCain might conceivably get some credit for any solution that was come up with, so they announced a deal before McCain got to Washington.

There was no deal; House Republicans were not on-board, and everybody knew it. But the Democratic leaders' top priority was making sure McCain scored no political points.

You gotta have your priorities, after all.


FAIL


Here's the deal that McCain torpedoed in the name of bailing out his campaign:

1. Taxpayer Protection
a. Requires Treasury Secretary to set standards to prevent excessive or inappropriate executive compensation for participating companies
b. To minimize risk to the American taxpayer, requires that any transaction include equity sharing
c. Requires most profits to be used to reduce the national debt
2. Oversight and Transparency
a. Treasury Secretary is prohibited from acting in an arbitrary or capricious manner or in any way that is inconsistent with existing law
b. Establishes strong oversight board with cease and desist authority
c. Requires program transparency and public accountability through regular, detailed reports to Congress disclosing exercise of the Treasury Secretary's authority
d. Establishes an independent Inspector General to monitor the use of the Treasury Secretary's authority
e. Requires GAO audits to ensure proper use of funds, appropriate internal controls, and to prevent waste, fraud, and abuse
3. Homeownership Preservation
a. Maximize and coordinate efforts to modify mortgages for homeowners at risk of foreclosure
b. Requires loan modifications for mortgages owned or controlled by the Federal Government
c. Directs a percentage of future profits to the Affordable Housing Fund and the Capital Magnet Fund to meet America's housing needs
4. Funding Authority
a. Treasury Secretary's request for $700 billion is authorized, with $250 billion available immediately and an additional $100 billion released upon his or her certification that funds are needed
b. final $350 billion is subject to a Congressional joint resolution of disapproval


Which was a good start - it needed more regulation to prevent this from recurring, but it was a good framework for legislation that both Republicans and Democrats had agreed with - heck, a sizable portion of the Republican Congressional delegation still back this framework because it was decisive and passable.

Then McCain comes in, destroys the bipartisan compromise, and counters with a plan that reads like it was written by Phil Gramm and the ghost of Ken Lay which asks for corporate and capital gains tax cuts and less regulation on the financial sector.

 
toonz 2008-09-26 04:49:16 PM  
had a REPUBLICAN said it, it would be noteworthy.

regardless of the statement's validity (or lack thereof), this was not the right messenger to give it any weight. comes off as politics either way.

 
John Coyote [TotalFark] 2008-09-26 04:50:08 PM  
FishingWithFredo: Will say it repeatedly so long as the Democrats continue to lie in an attempt to help Obama.

The Congressional Democrats -- who are the ones who demonstrably caused this mess, by the way -- were worried that McCain might conceivably get some credit for any solution that was come up with, so they announced a deal before McCain got to Washington.

There was no deal; House Republicans were not on-board, and everybody knew it. But the Democratic leaders' top priority was making sure McCain scored no political points.

You gotta have your priorities, after all.


let's see some proof that doesn't come from Fox News. then we'll talk

 
Thune 2008-09-26 04:50:40 PM  
Wow, yet another use of the Hero tag for a Lefty.

Man those guys are patriotic!

 
Mi-5 2008-09-26 04:51:01 PM  
OH MY GOD.

Turn to MSNBC RIGHT NOW. THere is a MCCain staffer on there about to get beat down by David Schuster.

 
Cuthbert Allgood 2008-09-26 04:51:27 PM  
ToxicMunkee: LOVED the photo op of him sitting at that table, the only grinning fool maniac there. It screamed, Look at me, I'm helping!

yeah, i noticed that too... couldn't understand his expression considering teh gravity of the situation. dude scares me.

/it's ALASKA!

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2008-09-26 04:52:06 PM  
lexslamman: Then McCain comes in, destroys the bipartisan compromise, and counters with a plan that reads like it was written by Phil Gramm and the ghost of Ken Lay which asks for corporate and capital gains tax cuts and less regulation on the financial sector.

What exactly WAS McCain's 'plan'? I keep hearing rumors about what happened, but nothing concrete.

 
ayenull 2008-09-26 04:52:10 PM  
awutwut: Don't worry Obama has already fixing the problem. Everything is fine. Change.

1/10

Work on your sentence structure.

/do a little research while you are at it...

 
toonz 2008-09-26 04:52:29 PM  
FishingWithFredo: Will say it repeatedly so long as the Democrats continue to lie in an attempt to help Obama.

The Congressional Democrats -- who are the ones who demonstrably caused this mess, by the way -- were worried that McCain might conceivably get some credit for any solution that was come up with, so they announced a deal before McCain got to Washington.

There was no deal; House Republicans were not on-board, and everybody knew it. But the Democratic leaders' top priority was making sure McCain scored no political points.

You gotta have your priorities, after all.


and party over country seems to be yours.
yes blame the democrats. if only there had been any sort of republican majority in the house, senate and/or executive branches last 8 years to stop the OTHER GUYS' evil train.

 
mythicknight 2008-09-26 04:52:43 PM  
Schumer is a toolbag of the highest quality fabric.

 
chipspastic 2008-09-26 04:53:25 PM  
Wow - Chuck Schumer is scoring off McCain? This really is bad news...for Obama.

 
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