Didn't Waters fire him from Floyd?

Yes. But that was a long time ago.

Confabulat: Didn't Waters fire him from Floyd?

Still, he called him, after all those years - "a studio musician that was easily replaced".

Roger Waters is and will always be a douchebag.

Nah.... He said these types of things when he was pissed at them for going out as Floyd playing mostly the songs he wrote.

Roger went into therapy many years ago and as he put it "It takes two dogs to fight over a bone. I learned to let go of my end of it".

He has tried to make peace with his former bandmates. Yes, he also said "I rolled over for one show. I couldn't roll over for a whole farking tour." More recently though, he has said he really enjoyed playing with them at Live 8 and offered to do more with them if they would like. Nick wanted to... Gilmour is the one who said no.

Waters intrigues me. Everybody says he's such an asshole, but he's one of the very few artists whose interviews make enough sense to me to be worth reading.

Wright has always been underrated, it seems. Look at the amount of screen time he got on Live 8, if you've got 2.5 seconds.

I was impressed with Water comments. I'm glad he was able to acknowledge the importance of Wright's contributions and compositions.

///I mean, theyre not gunna kill ya, so if you give em a quick short,
Sharp, shock, they wont do it again. dig it? I mean he get off
Lightly, cos I wouldve given him a thrashing - I only hit him once!
It was only a difference of opinion, but really...i mean good manners
Dont cost nothing do they, eh?

In my teens I was a huge Floyd fan, and of Waters in particular. After the split every word he said bespoke an arrogant, coked-up jerk. It makes my heart glad to see him say something so decent and measured at last.

Say what you will about Waters, it was his arrogance and lofty attitude that allowed him to write such brilliant music. To create a sense of isolation and oneness.

Though the statement on Rick Wright's death seems a bit corporate and well planned. Like something a company would release if one of it's members of its board of directors passed away.

i thougth nick mason's comments in a linked article on that page were probably the most telling.

wright and mason were the two always caught between gilmour and waters.

never thought about him as the harrison role.

gonna put the ipod on the speakers today.

darkhorse23: Confabulat: Didn't Waters fire him from Floyd?

Still, he called him, after all those years - "a studio musician that was easily replaced".

Roger Waters is and will always be a douchebag.

That's like saying Richard Wright will always be an unstable drug addict. Wright had a nasty cocaine problem back then.

darkhorse23: Confabulat: Didn't Waters fire him from Floyd?

Still, he called him, after all those years - "a studio musician that was easily replaced".

Roger Waters is and will always be a douchebag.

Would you agree with everything you said 25 years ago, or would you take some of it back if you could?

Confabulat: Didn't Waters fire him from Floyd?

Technically, Roger forced Rick to quit. Roger was in possession of the masters from The Wall, and said he would sit on them until Wright left the band. Roger accused Rick of having not pulled his share of the load for quite some time. Later, David agreed that was true, blaming it on "something of a nasty cocaine habit" (as zappawizard alluded to). The irony is that Rick was hired as a musician for The Wall tour, even though he was no longer an official member of the band, and was paid a salary to do so. He was the only one of the four to make money off of the tour.

Roger may have been the one to force Rick out of the band, but I seem to recall that Rick was also a "paid musician" on the "Momentary Lapse of Reason" album and tour as well. Gilmour brought him in to give his version of Floyd more credibility at a time when the fights between he and Roger were at their peak.

I'm sure the egos and demons of the band were huge and growing through the 70s. I'd like to think that for the most part they've put that behind them and can not only mourn their friend, but hopefully look back with some fondness on the music they made together

This sounds to me like one of those moments where you set aside old arguments and simply appreciate that someone you loved and spent a great deal of time with is gone. Maybe what Roger said was calculated, but it read as honest to me. Roger Waters has always been somewhat of an enigma to me, so gifted and so moving with his music, yet when he opens his mouth to talk (except this time) I usually want to smack him.

It's common knowledge that Wright's playing was problematic during The Wall era. But that doesn't mean Wright wasn't exactly what Waters says in this interview: a guy with a great musical sensibility and distinctively subtle style.

Go back and listen to Piper at the Gates of Dawn all the way up through at least Wish You Were Here and pay attention to the keys. So tasty.

RIP, old bean.

Floyd in all it's incarnations is just fantastic music.

RIP Mr. Wright.
RIP Syd B.

pentachris: Roger was in possession of the masters from The Wall, and said he would sit on them until Wright left the band.

I was pretty sure I had read that Wright didn't even appear on The Wall.

Waters suffers from the same fate as many geniuses....they're complete morons with how to interact with everyone else. In this case he spelled out 2 songs Richard Wright contributed to...just 2...as if they were his only contributions(IMHO opinion they are the best on Dark Side)? Also Wright's influence given his subtlety can't be measured as easily as Waters' due to his brute force approach....

None of us were there when things went south for Floyd, but every interview with Waters leaves me wishing he'd just shut up, the other 3 always seemed way more grounded. If you listen to Roger, he was Pink Floyd & the other 3 members simply rode his coattails. If Nick, David & Richard were talentless then Roger might have a point, but I don't think this is the case. Rather, I think Roger probably squashed everyone else's ideas because he simply felt threatened & his talent let him get away with it.

Nevertheless, RIP Richard Wright & thank you for sharing your music with the rest of us......

Nice sentiments Roger. I think we all know the story by now. I've been listening to 'Obscured by Clouds' for the past few days. Surprisingly, Rick Wright has songwriting credit on nearly every tune. Good driving music.

"Cause there's no wind left in my soul,
and I've grown old . . ."

never thought about him as the harrison role.

Wright never released a solo album that was better than anything the Beatles had ever done, either indivudally or as a group.

zappawizard: That's like saying Richard Wright will always be an unstable drug addict. Wright had a nasty cocaine problem back then.

That's racist!!!!!

(You're talking about the author of Black Boy, right?)

Bari: never thought about him as the harrison role.

Wright never released a solo album that was better than anything the Beatles had ever done, either indivudally or as a group.

1/10.
Try harder.

I'm sorry, but to clear up all the back and forth here, it's really quite simple:

1) Starting at Barrett's departure, Roger became incrementally more of a dickwad every year, but starting with the animals tour his pace toward total dickwadness increased exponentially, eventually hitting high-water marks of douche during the Wall sessions, the Final Cut, and pretty much maintaining that level of dickwadness until the early 90s.

He mellowed out starting about ten years ago, but none of the members of Floyd were particularly receptive after decades of abuse.

nutmilk: I'm sorry, but to clear up all the back and forth here, it's really quite simple:

1) Starting at Barrett's departure, Roger became incrementally more of a dickwad every year, but starting with the animals tour his pace toward total dickwadness increased exponentially, eventually hitting high-water marks of douche during the Wall sessions, the Final Cut, and pretty much maintaining that level of dickwadness until the early 90s.

He mellowed out starting about ten years ago, but none of the members of Floyd were particularly receptive after decades of abuse.

High water mark of douche baggery for the Final Cut? Really? You don't say?

A_bomb37: nutmilk: I'm sorry, but to clear up all the back and forth here, it's really quite simple:

1) Starting at Barrett's departure, Roger became incrementally more of a dickwad every year, but starting with the animals tour his pace toward total dickwadness increased exponentially, eventually hitting high-water marks of douche during the Wall sessions, the Final Cut, and pretty much maintaining that level of dickwadness until the early 90s.

He mellowed out starting about ten years ago, but none of the members of Floyd were particularly receptive after decades of abuse.

High water mark of douche baggery for the Final Cut? Really? You don't say?

On a semi-related note, The Final Cut is a very underrated album IMHO. It is one of the few Floyd albums that I own on vinyl (Animals, Dark Side of the Moon and Ummagumma being the only other ones) and it's always worth a spin, even if it is thematically and musically very similar to The Wall...

darkhorse23:

Roger Waters is and will always be a douchebag.

Most geniuses are. Nextcase.

The Final Cut is brilliant, but not for a casual listen. The production is incredible too, if you get the chance to crank it.

darkhorse23: Roger Waters is and will always be a douchebag.


Karma Chameleon Most geniuses are. Nextcase.


Richard Wagner...now that was a case of MAJOR douchebaggery.
He only had one friend and he nailed the dude's wife.

But hey,apocalyptic attack helicopters would be NOTHING without his awesome music.

danduran: The Final Cut is brilliant, but not for a casual listen. The production is incredible too, if you get the chance to crank it.

This This This.

sonicfluid: A_bomb37: nutmilk: I'm sorry, but to clear up all the back and forth here, it's really quite simple:

1) Starting at Barrett's departure, Roger became incrementally more of a dickwad every year, but starting with the animals tour his pace toward total dickwadness increased exponentially, eventually hitting high-water marks of douche during the Wall sessions, the Final Cut, and pretty much maintaining that level of dickwadness until the early 90s.

He mellowed out starting about ten years ago, but none of the members of Floyd were particularly receptive after decades of abuse.

High water mark of douche baggery for the Final Cut? Really? You don't say?

On a semi-related note, The Final Cut is a very underrated album IMHO. It is one of the few Floyd albums that I own on vinyl (Animals, Dark Side of the Moon and Ummagumma being the only other ones) and it's always worth a spin, even if it is thematically and musically very similar to The Wall...

In my opinion, The Final Cut is their best work.

Bad bit in the bit bucket:

In my opinion, The Final Cut is their best work.

The Final Cut isn't "their" best anything. You may as well call it a Roger Waters solo work. Just like "Momentary Lapse of Reason" is best seen as a David Gilmour solo project.

FeedTheCollapse: pentachris: Roger was in possession of the masters from The Wall, and said he would sit on them until Wright left the band.

I was pretty sure I had read that Wright didn't even appear on The Wall.

Not in a songwriting capacity. He did "play what he was told."

sonicfluid: On a semi-related note, The Final Cut is a very underrated album IMHO.

It's better than The Wall.