For Metallica to make it in before Tom Waits is a sin.

I'm also proposing Captain Beefheart - listen to Tom Waits prior to 'Swordfishtrombomes', which was released after he was introduced to Beefheart, and you'll see what a massive influence the Captain was on him.

skabbo: For Metallica to make it in before Tom Waits is a sin.

I'm also proposing Captain Beefheart - listen to Tom Waits prior to 'Swordfishtrombomes', which was released after he was introduced to Beefheart, and you'll see what a massive influence the Captain was on him.

Tom Waits & Beefheart are great- but are by no means Hall of Famers. They'll give it to Tom waits when he dies I'm sure.

Metallica? Without a doubt.

Does anyone outside of Cleveland actually care about this? Maybe if it was limited to actual Rock n Roll it would mean something but even then it's just a big circle jerk.

Every year Rush isn't inducted makes it more and more of a joke.

EdMon: Tom Waits & Beefheart are great- but are by no means Hall of Famers. They'll give it to Tom waits when he dies I'm sure.

Metallica? Without a doubt.

I'm interested in your logic.

The RnR HoF is bunk until Rush and Iron Maiden are in.

Metallica, The Stooges, Run-DMC lead Rock and Roll Hall of Fame nominees.

Sucka MCs should call them sire.

No KISS, no Hall of Fame.

Any of you listen to the Tom Waits track "Road to Peace"?

Damn political activists.

nopokerface: No KISS, no Hall of Fame.

Well, if Madonna can get in there, then I suppose dudes in makeup playing cock rock and dancing around in flashy pyrotechnics should too. Talent is obviously not a pre-req ...

Nobody should want to be in the rock n roll hall of fame. Rock music is meant to subvert the establishment - such an organization is creating the establishment.

If I were one of these bands, I'd tell the folks at Cleveland to piss off. Tom Waits should be proud.

thatvoiceguy: Every year Rush isn't inducted makes it more and more of a joke.

It's called the "Rock n Roll" hall of fame, not the "Shrill Feline Death Rattle" hall of fame.

TeddyBallGame: The RnR HoF is bunk until Rush and Iron Maiden are in.

THIS

nopokerface: No KISS, no Hall of Fame.

hahahahaha

anal brazil men: Nobody should want to be in the rock n roll hall of fame. Rock music is meant to subvert the establishment rake in the dough, and get you laid.

FTFY

Any other reason given for Rock and Roll is a perversion of it's true self.

Ya'll can just ignore that inappropriate apostrophe.

They won't be happy until every one hit wonder from Motown gets in. Though I don't think there are any left.

I don't care for this list, but I never really cared about RnRHOF inductees. There are hundreds of acts that deserve to have at least a mention in the RnRHOF that don't and probably won't get the recognition.
I visited the HOF a few years ago. It's neat to look at notebooks with scribbled out lyrics, and see some guitars I recognized from so and so and such and such.

Some stuff should be really preserved for future generations, but I prefer to do that by playing my CDs at my kids.

This was to be STEVIE RAY VAUGHN's year ... also RUSH's 9th screwover.

Drats and Darnation!

skammie: Some stuff should be really preserved for future generations, but I prefer to do that by playing my CDs at my kids.

Careful not to leave a welt. That's how they get you.

dittybopper: Ya'll can just ignore that inappropriate apostrophe.

No, no, no, sir. That is the very crux of the biscuit.

Fix action:

Rename it to the Music Hall of Fame
have wings that represent each major genre of music

Heavy Metal
Rock
Pop
R&B
Rap
Country
Jazz
Blues
Electronica -maybe (could fall under Pop)
Punk -maybe (could fall under Rock)

There.. everyone is happy

thatvoiceguy: Every year Rush isn't inducted makes it more and more of a joke.

Exactly. And for Tom Waits to not be in is ridiculous as well. The guy is a genius.

Rock and Roll was once a music of the people, but these scumwads who run the R&RHOF are just rich elitists out of touch with the masses that have made them rich. By injecting their insane and irrelevant industry politics into the equation, they've ruined the entire point of the R&RHOF, and are aiding in the assassination of the genre.

Came in here for The Stooges love, leaving disappointed.

/Funhouse FTW
//The re-released, re-mixed copy of Raw Power is awesome as well (not taking anything away from the Bowie-mixed original)
///Iggy is the only original rocker from the 60's that can still deliver, and can blow anyone off of the stage, even today

Rush or it didn't happen.

I have zero issues with Wanda Jackson, she's the kind of artist they need to be inducting. That lady is bad ass.

Run DMC?? Get the fark out of here.

They aren't rock, and their last hit album was over 22 years ago.

Hell, the Beastie Boys should be next if they're just going to let anyone with a turntable and an ability to steal sample other people's music.

Crude: Run DMC?? Get the fark out of here.
They aren't rock, and their last hit album was over 22 years ago.
Hell, the Beastie Boys should be next if they're just going to let anyone with a turntable and an ability to steal sample other people's music.

yeah, but its all bunk if the Fat Boys don't get in first.

No offense, but since when is Tom Waits "rock and roll"? Don't take that the wrong way. I think Tom Waits as my own personal hell. Mumbling, gravely nonsense with someone else playing an unrelated tune. Another good way to know it's terrible? The hippy idiot I used to work with LOVED it. Couldn't stop telling me how fantastic it was.

Chic? I can see Niles Rogers because of his production work, but not Chic as an act.

Run DMC definitely belongs.

And put me in the "it's a joke at least until Rush gets in" camp.



/ it'll probably be a joke afterward, too.

GoodyearPimp: No offense, but since when is Tom Waits "rock and roll"? Don't take that the wrong way. I think Tom Waits as my own personal hell. Mumbling, gravely nonsense with someone else playing an unrelated tune. Another good way to know it's terrible? The hippy idiot I used to work with LOVED it. Couldn't stop telling me how fantastic it was.


He was right.
Really, take another listen to 'Rain Dogs'. Something doesn't have to be upbeat, guitar-driven, verse/chorus/verse to be rock and roll.

I know this is a foreign concept for the internet and it is much more fun to argue, but the fact of the matter is that it's music and it has always been and will always be subjective.

I would propose Steve Miller WAY before Chic/Metallica/RunDMC...

Go Stooges!!

Gonz037: I know this is a foreign concept for the internet and it is much more fun to argue, but the fact of the matter is that it's music and it has always been and will always be subjective.

That's the fun of it.

Take a look through any 'Top albums' list. Not the ones that necessarily sold the most, but the ones that are considered the best. Take an album like The Flaming Lips "The Soft Bulletin", or My Bloody Valentine's "Loveless". They constantly rank in the top 5 albums of the 1990s, yet comparatively few people have ever heard them, next to an album like The Backstreet Boys "Black and Blue". If music is subjective, then why isn't the latter placed above the two aforementioned albums on every list? It sold hundreds of times as many copies, and there are millions more people who bought it, and loved it. Yet, when it comes to ranking "greatness", you'd be pressed to find it mentioned anywhere. Subjective taste explains most, but not all of what makes some music great, and other music average. Otherwise 'Thriller' and 'Back in Black' would be at the top of every 'Best of' list in existance for the last 25 years.

I have never understood how anyone would willingly listen to Rush. Seriously. It hurts.

Thyomorb: I have never understood how anyone would willingly listen to Rush. Seriously. It hurts.

FTFY

Of those mentioned, Chic and Wanda Jackson are the only artists I listen to. I suck.

How many years of snubs is that for King Crimson now?

thatvoiceguy: Every year Rush isn't inducted makes it more and more of a joke.

You can not find two groups (not in the R&R HOF) with more influence, longevity and record sales than Rush and Yes

Rolling Stone writing about the Rock Hall of Fame? Talk about a vortex of irrelevance.

nopokerface
No KISS, no Merchandising Hall of Fame.

/ftfy

If you're not a pal of Rolling Stone mag and Jann Wenner, not a participant of the NY wing of the music industry social circle, never recorded for Sire Records, you have little chance of being in the R&R HoF. They're currently trying to figure out a way to induct Eric Clapton for something else. Maybe a jam session in 1975.

But, you knew already what a crock of shiat it is. I'm just sayin'.

Anyone that says Billy Joel and James Taylor are more important to the history of Rock and Roll than Black Sabbath and KISS are deserves a beatdown.

Waddell: You can not find two groups (not in the R&R HOF) with more influence, longevity and record sales than Rush and Yes

Willie has a thought regarding your acknowledgment of his years of service:



/pete seeger's in, so willie should be a shoo-in

Gawd, I can't stand Kiss. Not a big fan of Rush either (don't worry, I'm sure you hate the bands I like too. It's okay.)
However, they should still be in the Hall of Fame. Sabbath and Tom Waits too.

I do agree with the nominations of Metallica, Run-DMC, and especially the muthafarking STOOGES! Fun House is one of my favorite albums.

/please don't let Eddie Vedder do any inductions ever again.

dittybopper: Ya'll can just ignore that inappropriate apostrophe.

According to Fark law, no we can't.

Crude: Run DMC?? Get the fark out of here.

They aren't rock, and their last hit album was over 22 years ago.


Yeah, Kick that Babe Ruth guy out of the BHOF, he hasn't even picked up a bat in decades!

Subby laying the snark on Little Anthony and the Imperials? Totally misplaced.

Hurt So Bad (new window)

Barnacles!: TeddyBallGame: The RnR HoF is bunk until Rush and Iron Maiden are in.

THIS

nopokerface: No KISS, no Hall of Fame.

hahahahaha

Seriously. You are a Rush fan and you are laughing at KISS? You must be Canadian or "special".

Talk about influence. Most recent bands list KISS as an influence. And how could they not?

I want my Link Wray!

I'm curious if they will let the first bass player, Mustaine, or Newstead in.

Bari: I'm curious if they will let the first bass player, Mustaine, or Newstead in.


That is a very interesting question, anyone know the rules on that?

Mustaine and Newsted (sp?) definitely deserve it.

I still believe Mustaine wrote the vast majority of the riffs for Kill 'em all and the SONG Ride the Lightning (not the entire second album though).