Love the fact that it's attributed to "numerous sources".
it's Karl's pet project. Sling poo and whether it sticks or not the smell still gets on them.
I love the lack of details and the use of guilt by association.
It mostly details the past accusations they've made against them.
I'm sure in a week or two someone will be referencing this accusation as a fact.

Some of them may not be dead yet. Well, not entirely.

This is what Obama meant when he said he was a community organizer.

Hobodeluxe: it's Karl's pet project. Sling poo and whether it sticks or not the smell still gets on them.

FTFA: Five ACORN employees were convicted and imprisoned in Washington state, in 2007, for what was described by Washington's Secretary of State Sam Reed, as, "was the worst case of election fraud in our state's history. It was an outrage."

When you get criminal convictions, it's not poo flinging. Reading TFA and looking around the net, this group seems to have a long history of voter fraud, not some one time bad apple scenario.

Hobodeluxe: I'm sure in a week or two someone will be referencing this accusation as a fact.

I was going to say a day, tops. But now that Nemo's Brother is here that seems like a grossly generous estimate.

Nemo's Brother: This is what Obama meant when he said he was a community organizer.

What's it like lying all the time? Have you ever told the truth?

Even once?

"Acorn and its affiliates have pulled some real stunts in recent years. In Ohio in 2004, a worker for one affiliate was given crack cocaine in exchange for fraudulent registrations that included underage voters, dead voters and pillars of the community named Mary Poppins, Dick Tracy and Jive Turkey."

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On another note, this is why I like the North Dakota system. No registration, poll records are public so you can see who voted and where. Never been a serious case of fraud in the state that I am aware of.

Crosshair: When you get criminal convictions, it's not poo flinging. Reading TFA and looking around the net, this group seems to have a long history of voter fraud, not some one time bad apple scenario.

I've seen one criminal conviction for embezzlement one of the guys running the thing got snagged for.
where are the cases of fraud? links to the case number and findings would be just fine. Criminal convictions for widespread fraud not one or two here and there.

Nemo's Brother: This is what Obama meant when he said he was a community organizer.

You are what I meant when I told my girl I was reading some idiot on Fark.

In before some moran attributes it to Karl Rove.

Crosshair: On another note, this is why I like the North Dakota system. No registration, poll records are public so you can see who voted and where. Never been a serious case of fraud in the state that I am aware of.

theres not been one anywhere. unless you want to count the bogus felony list in Fla in 2000 or the caging that the GOP has done.
or swapping out US attorneys to being bogus charges.

now that I have heard of. the DoJ seems unwilling to look into those.

Hobodeluxe: I've seen one criminal conviction for embezzlement one of the guys running the thing got snagged for.
where are the cases of fraud? links to the case number and findings would be just fine. Criminal convictions for widespread fraud not one or two here and there.

Do you demand the same burden of proof when something comes out against a Conservative organisation? Or do you use that handy double standard.

/off to work I go.

ACORN is a bunch of stupid communists.

If ACORN had ties to McCain, you lefties would be screaming to high hell about "There should be an investigation, what did McSame know and when did he know it?!!" Since it is connected to your precious Obama, its a non-story.

Once again, talk about the pot and the farking kettle.....

Oh noes, dead people are registered!

So, how many instances of illegal voting can you point to?

The few I found involved Republicans.

and lets not even get into the e-voting machines that when they go crazy always go crazy in favor of republicans for some reason.
or the butterfly ballots,hanging chads,Brooks bros riots,Ken Blackwell and his shady operations in Ohio where he locked the doors and wouldn't let the the press in to cover their counting,or the funny stuff with the Ohio elections totalling computers being looped though the RNC computers in Chattanooga.or the phone jamming in new hampshire that was run from the white house itself.

let's not mention those.

*cue THATS THE CHICAGO WAY pics*

Crosshair: Hobodeluxe: it's Karl's pet project. Sling poo and whether it sticks or not the smell still gets on them.

FTFA: Five ACORN employees were convicted and imprisoned in Washington state, in 2007, for what was described by Washington's Secretary of State Sam Reed, as, "was the worst case of election fraud in our state's history. It was an outrage."

When you get criminal convictions, it's not poo flinging. Reading TFA and looking around the net, this group seems to have a long history of voter fraud, not some one time bad apple scenario.

You'll also note that more often than not, its ACORN that turns in its own people. Like they did in KC during 06 which didn't stop US atty Brad Schlozman (former head of the civil rights division and one of Monica Goodling's "special" hires) from Violating DOD policy and not only indicting before th election but holding a press conference where he lied and said the indictments were the first fruits of a long running investigation against democratic groups linked to Claire McCaskill. It was a bold faced lie but it almost cost her the election.

My point? Acorn has some bad apples which is to be expected when you hire seasonal workers who are paid by the name. BUT, those phony names only hurt ACORN who paid for something it didn't get, there no evidence any of those dead people actually voted.


On the other hand, thanks to the last 8 years our governmental voting rights enforcement mechanism has been deliberately corrupted from the inside.


which should worry you more?

GaryPDX: ACORN is a bunch of stupid communists.

A communist voter drive. Interesting...

84Charlie: If ACORN had ties to McCain, you lefties would be screaming to high hell about "There should be an investigation, what did McSame know and when did he know it?!!" Since it is connected to your precious Obama, its a non-story.

Its always the folks with the least ability to empathize that want to tell you what other people are thinking.

Never FAILs.

anyone here have proof of a widespread voter fraud let's see it?
not accusations. convictions biatches.

Magorn: You'll also note that more often than not, its ACORN that turns in its own people. Like they did in KC during 06 which didn't stop US atty Brad Schlozman (former head of the civil rights division and one of Monica Goodling's "special" hires) from Violating DOD policy and not only indicting before th election but holding a press conference where he lied and said the indictments were the first fruits of a long running investigation against democratic groups linked to Claire McCaskill. It was a bold faced lie but it almost cost her the election.

over what? 4 signatures wasn't it?

Let's face it. Registering the dead, or under false names, or whatnot can be effective in local elections, but not national elections. Yes, Fla. 2000 was decided by 500-1000 votes, but no one saw that coming. In general, a "close" state has a difference of at least tens of thousands. These types of fraud might work on a local level, but to tie Obama's national campaign to these tactics is ridiculous.

bartink, thanks for proving my point.

The Dem's are such amateur cheaters compared to the Republicans...

Diebold makes it so easy

Hobodeluxe: Brooks bros riots.

See, that story was widely mis-reported by the biased liberal media. The gear was from Men's Warehouse, libtard.

Hobodeluxe: anyone here have proof of a widespread voter fraud let's see it?
not accusations. convictions biatches.

Can't you just Google that yourself and answer your own question?

you can't cage the dead vote, fascists! bwahahaha

/seriously, send these people to prison along with Monica Goodling and Tim Griffin

ACORN? What a bunch of nuts.

Republicans are so stupid you can shoot them in the face and they'll apologize for getting in your way.

JQPublic: Can't you just Google that yourself and answer your own question?

came up with nada.

Hobodeluxe: Republicans are so stupid you can shoot them in the face and they'll apologize for getting in your way.

that was deep.

Hobodeluxe: JQPublic: Can't you just Google that yourself and answer your own question?

came up with nada.

I just Googled "voter fraud convictions" and came up with lots of stuff.

So what do you guys think about this latest attempt in Mich to exclude those who have lost their homes? ^{(^)}

Does this concern you as much as a few signatures of people who might have died between the time of registration and the election?

Remove all Republicans: JQPublic: In before some moran attributes it to Karl Rove.

Too late.

Yeah, Hobodeluxe can't seem to figure out how to use Google. But apparently he has that ISO variant where Alt+666 automatically blames stuff on Karl Rove.

according to numerous reports

/that's hard-hitting journalism there, Lou

LocalCynic: Oh noes, dead people are registered!

So, how many instances of illegal voting can you point to?

The few I found involved Republicans.

In 2004, the Republicans and Dino Rossi cried fraud over the Governor's race and ran to the courts to overturn Gregoire's election.

The end result was four illegal votes being deducted from Rossi's total and none from Gregoire's.

Overall though, I remember reading a couple years ago about how many vote fraud cases the Justice Department had managed to find during the entire Bush Administration and I'll have you know that that it numbered in the dozens!

JQPublic: I just Googled "voter fraud convictions" and came up with lots of stuff.

you seem to have trouble with the word widespread. this would mean an attempt by a group to commit fraud in a large way, not a signature here and there. you're confusing numerous with widespread. one here and there isn't going to change anything.
making a list of tens of thousands and refusing them their right to vote is. Like what Katherine Harris did in Fla.

gimpmonkey: "Acorn and its affiliates have pulled some real stunts in recent years. In Ohio in 2004, a worker for one affiliate was given crack cocaine in exchange for fraudulent registrations that included underage voters, dead voters and pillars of the community named Mary Poppins, Dick Tracy and Jive Turkey."

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I'm trying to find a source for any of that in your article... Looking... Looking... Nope.

Lots of "liberal," "partisan," and "black" labels tossed about though.

Unless I'm mistaken:

1. All the charges have been brought against the lowest tier of workers.

2. Many of these cases only were discovered because their superiors at ACORN found and reported the fraud. ACORN hasn't condoned it, they've taken swift action against it.

3. In none of the cases does it appear that this was done with the intent of fraudulently voting with that name. Rather, it was done to pad the worker's count of registrations.

In that light, it doesn't seem right to blame ACORN for the problems. In a sense, I'm sure they contribute in that they push their workers very hard to sign people up, but blaming them for that would be like blaming parents with high academic expectations for their kid cheating to meet those expectations.

Voter fraud, not THAT"S a PLAN!

GObama!

Billy McGoodGuy: Hobodeluxe: So what do you guys think about this latest attempt in Mich to exclude those who have lost their homes? (^)

Does this concern you as much as a few signatures of people who might have died between the time of registration and the election?

I need to see some proof besides the article you posted. It is not believable.

well we have a quote from the GOP guy Doug Preisse saying they "wouldn't rule out" challenging on those with foreclosed addresses. We have a documented history of the GOP challenging on this basis in the past.

and we have this little ditty

According to voter challenge directives handed down by Republican Secretary of State Terri Lynn Land, voter challenges need only be "based on information obtained through a reliable source or means."

"But poll workers are not allowed to ask the reason" for the challenges, Rozell said. In other words, Republican vote challengers are free to use foreclosure lists as a basis for disqualifying otherwise eligible voters.

ACORN is the black sheep of Democratic community organizers. I'm a registered Democrat and I don't trust them at all. They are hounded by a cloud of bad publicity. Best to just put it out of its misery.

Why is McCain registering to vote in Milwaukee?

FishyFred: ACORN is the black sheep of Democratic community organizers. I'm a registered Democrat and I don't trust them at all. They are hounded by a cloud of bad publicity.

thank you Karl Rove and the liberal media. The GOP makes these guys look like saints. They run state elections boards that are crooked as the day is long. Why else do you have a shortage of voting machines in Democratic precincts and a surplus in the Republican ones? have you seen any Republicans precincts standing out in the rain all day or running out of ballots?
have their been any e voting machines make errors in the Democrats favor? (serious question. I'm not aware of any if there were)

JQPublic: Yeah, Hobodeluxe can't seem to figure out how to use Google. But apparently he has that ISO variant where Alt+666 automatically blames stuff on Karl Rove.

lmao. +2 pts.

Democratic organizations try to register lots of voters. They hire minimum wage earners and enlist volunteers. Some of those people do stupid things like make up names for the rolls. "People" who will not actually show up on election day.

Meanwhile, republican organizations every cycle try their damndest to block as many voters as possible, or use underhanded intimidation tactics. Not enough staff at inner-city polls, this mortgage scam in Michigan, the Florida voter roll purge in 2000, the mailings "confirming" republican party affiliation, etc etc.

I think I can handle the first choice. The second one is farking disgusting.

Poor judgment again and again doesn't bode well for O.

So, Barak Hussein Obama's "community organizer" job was for ACORN and ACORN is doing voter registration for BHO? Yeah, that's the change we are all looking for.

/criminal

...and yet another blog with zero real sources gets linked to as fact