Wait, what? Obama is black, dayum. That changes everything!

Is the Unlikely tag resting?

All aboard the Richard Mellon Scaife Magical Mystery Tour of Alternate Realities! *Toot* *Toot*

Is it opposite day? Didn't a sitting GOP member of Congress just endorse Obama?

Yeah. Sure.

Again I'll say it:
I keep seeing these opinion columns completely unbacked by fact.

They say things like "Obama is losing votes by comparing McCain with Bush, he needs to stop." What they really seem to mean, though, is "Obama is kicking our asses, and one area he really is scoring points is the whole Bush/McCain comparison. I wish he'd stop."

And then there's the "Obama is losing, so you idiots who are voting for him are throwing your votes away, you might as well give up" opinion piece. That's also a favorite of lots of Fark Independents on just about every political thread. But we can see, over and over and with empirical backing (fivethirtyeight, even Rasmussen and Gallup lately) that it's really swinging towards Obama in just about every demographic, of late. So what they must mean is "I wish Democrats were abandoning a sinking Obama campaign, and I hope that this one piece of spun trivia convinces everyone that's happening so more people will do it."

It's just sad.

I like the last line in the article talking about Obama and the 'common man' and why this guy is voting for McCain:

That's sort of like John Kerry windsurfing during the 2004 election: Union members in Youngstown or in "Little Washington," Pa., just can't relate.

So, they have a hard time relating to Obama, but they have no problem relating to McCain. I guess that means that they too were a POW, captured for 5 years, owe 8 houses and 12 cars, married to a beer heiress, dumped their first wife and are running for president.

We had Joe Every American in office for 8 years. How did that all work out?

If union workers actually start voting GOP, I give up on this country altogether.

I'm a white Democrat, and I'm voting for Obama/Biden.

/Fark 'em if they can't deal with African-Americans.
//Sounds like they have a serious personal problem.

actually, most democrats I've seen think Palin is the anti-christ. That INCLUDES the atheists.

Weaver95: actually, most democrats I've seen think Palin is the anti-christ. That INCLUDES the atheists.

She's not the Antichrist. She's the Antichrists. You know, plural.

(Insert "atheists that have read the Bible" joke here.)

Weaver95: actually, most democrats I've seen think Palin is the anti-christ. That INCLUDES the atheists.

WHERE'S YOUR GOD THAT DOESN'T EXIST NOW!!!!

Weaver95: actually, most democrats I've seen think Palin is the anti-christ. That INCLUDES the atheists.

She's too stupid to be the anti-Christ. Satan can do better than that.

I'm Republican. And in a union--NWU, Local #5--and I won't be voting for McCain.

In part, because of this inability to come to grips with intellectual property rights as illustrated by his campaign so far. He has abused intellectual property to the point and it illustrates that while he might want to talk a good game about supporting intellectual property rights, his actual practice is something far different.

Actions speak far louder than words, and McCain's actions have pretty much sealed the deal for me. His inability to actually stick to an issue is another, but that's nothing new for McCain.

I think it's cute that astroturf articles are trying like heck to bolster sagging poll numbers. At least it pinpoints which papers are skewing their reporting. That's useful information to have.

Mugato: She's too stupid to be the anti-Christ. Satan can do better than that.

So Republicans hate Obama because he's black and Democrats hate Palin because she's a woman? Just trying to keep things straight here.

Crosshair: Mugato: She's too stupid to be the anti-Christ. Satan can do better than that.

So Republicans hate Obama because he's black and Democrats hate Palin because she's a woman a rabid fundie? Just trying to keep things straight here.

FTFY

Mugato: Weaver95: actually, most democrats I've seen think Palin is the anti-christ. That INCLUDES the atheists.

She's too stupid to be the anti-Christ. Satan can do better than that.

I can see Repubs being enthusiastic about Palin for a lot of reasons, but bone-dumb just isn't anti-Messiah material. She makes even Dubya look Mensa-ish, in comparison.

Metamucil Farts and the Moose Tart '08! Woooo!!

Weaver95: actually, most democrats I've seen think Palin is the anti-christ. That INCLUDES the atheists.

If the anti-Christ was someone who could, you know, actually exist, she'd be a great host for the job. Since it can't, she's just a dumbass fundie who wants to send women back to the 18th century.

Crosshair: Mugato: She's too stupid to be the anti-Christ. Satan can do better than that.

So Republicans hate Obama because he's black and Democrats hate Palin because she's a woman? Just trying to keep things straight here.

You can play the gender card while ignoring everything else about her if you want but no one's buying it.

Perhaps both the article writer, the Ohio union racist guy, and subby should check out 538 - we are thoroughly back into "Obama thrashes McCain" territory.

Just out of curiousity, how on EARTH can an Ohio union leader believe that McCain's and the GOP's policies could POSSIBLY help them?? Are they really that dumb, or is racism that powerful among Ohio retards?

ThatGuyGreg: If union workers actually start voting GOP, I give up on this country altogether.

The Republicans will tax the union workers more and the rich less.

The Democrats will put illegal tariffs on imports, leading to trade war, depression, and the union workers all being out of a job.

/ Nice choice.

Mugato: Weaver95: actually, most democrats I've seen think Palin is the anti-christ. That INCLUDES the atheists.

She's too stupid to be the anti-Christ. Satan can do better than that.

But given the people who voted for Bush and now back McCain, maybe Satan can make a smarter ruler, but humanity can't make smarter voters.

/Farkers are going to hate me for saying this, but the electoral college was put in place so McCain/Palin could never take office. It's too bad it was politicized by the parties and that would never happen. (You can argue about democracy and yaka yaka, sometimes a populace makes a vary obviously stupid choice.)
//Hopefully they won't.

We is dumb, we is dumb as hell

bronyaur1: Perhaps both the article writer, the Ohio union racist guy, and subby should check out 538 - we are thoroughly back into "Obama thrashes McCain" territory.

Just out of curiousity, how on EARTH can an Ohio union leader believe that McCain's and the GOP's policies could POSSIBLY help them?? Are they really that dumb, or is racism that powerful among Ohio retards?

Ohio is that dumb. You don't even need to factor in racism. Ohio is just that dumb.

While I don't get Palin, I can see the switch for McCain. Of course, the left will blame it on a decemberist concert

Crosshair: Mugato: She's too stupid to be the anti-Christ. Satan can do better than that.

So Republicans hate Obama because he's black and Democrats hate Palin because she's a woman? Just trying to keep things straight here.

No, we hate her because she's Christian, get your prejudices straight.

/And fark 'em if they can't take a joke

Of course, while I don't get Palin, i do respect her.
I have watched the women's movement evolve for quite a while. Sarah Palin has disrupted the gains made by the feminist in that she has not "payed her dues" according the the feminist standard. Women advanced themselves by being the "token woman" and the current feminists are still as attached to this concept as Wright is to Black Liberation Theology. As the token woman, the last thing one wants is to be replaced by the next token woman, so women at the top maintained that position by not mentoring younger women. As the years have passed, women have made it on their own, creating a variety of situations which balance career and family. Current feminists are more concerned with maintaing THEIR power and THEIR control than truely advancing women's issues. The public tolerates they feminists, but doesn't like them. Sarah, they love because she is authentic and she resonates with ordinary people. Sarah never saught, asked for or demanded the admiration she is getting and the elites and the feminists are angry that after all they have done to advance themselves, they are upstaged by someone who about serving the interests of others.

In other news, straw futures are way up, and look to keep rising over the next four weeks.

sloppy shoes:
/Farkers are going to hate me for saying this, but the electoral college was put in place so McCain/Palin could never take office. It's too bad it was politicized by the parties and that would never happen. (You can argue about democracy and yaka yaka, sometimes a populace makes a vary obviously stupid choice.)
.

This is actually entirely true. It's the whole point of a representative democracy. We have our choice... but someone is going to check it first.

The selection of Palin by McCain's campaign should be considered treason, plain and simple. He's placed his country in direct danger for transient political gain.

I just had an awakening moment and haven't seen anywhere on the blogsphere about this hatred for Sarah Palin.

Is it not conceivable that the MSM is up in a tizzy fit because an intelligent, beautiful, family and Christ centered woman is a professionally trained Journalist and that she is expressing an opinion that runs counter to the liberal journalistic speak of today?

Just something to think about.....

Mors: And then there's the "Obama is losing, so you idiots who are voting for him are throwing your votes away, you might as well give up" opinion piece. That's also a favorite of lots of Fark Independents on just about every political thread. But we can see, over and over and with empirical backing (fivethirtyeight, even Rasmussen and Gallup lately) that it's really swinging towards Obama in just about every demographic, of late. So what they must mean is "I wish Democrats were abandoning a sinking Obama campaign, and I hope that this one piece of spun trivia convinces everyone that's happening so more people will do it."

It's just sad.



it's like the scilons when anonymous launched the 2008 campaign against them, keep repeating that it's hopeless, when the truth is their membership numbers and profits were being gutted.

Look at them go!

Even responding to this thread is like feeding the troll.

greyseal: The selection of Palin by McCain's campaign should be considered treason, plain and simple. He's placed his country in direct danger for transient political gain.

woah dude. i'm not a palin fan either, but treason for selecting her? that's more than a bit over the top.

So lets see, the polling indicates it swinging hard towards Obama and its not just the convention bounce. Palin's favorability numbers are plummeting. McCain is beginning to sag in key swing states he must have. Obama is making progress in swing states that will give him the victory.

And some idiot just claims that reality isn't happening and it gets greenlit. Good luck with that.

Tacoby Bellisbury: I just had an awakening moment and haven't seen anywhere on the blogsphere about this hatred for Sarah Palin.

Is it not conceivable that the MSM is up in a tizzy fit because an intelligent, beautiful, family and Christ centered woman is a professionally trained Journalist and that she is expressing an opinion that runs counter to the liberal journalistic speak of today?

Just something to think about.....

Hmm...thought about it. Not it.

But way to double down on the liberal card and the sexism card.

We don't hate Palin because she's a woman. Actually most don't hate her at all. We just think she is completely unqualified to be VICE President, much less President and many of her beliefs run against the beliefs of the majority of Americans.

Who keeps greenlighting this crap? Has anyone checked out
www.fivethirtyeight.com lately?

Oh, and for clarification, we hate her because she is too dim and ambitious to recognize she isn't qualified to be vp.

sarasotarockstar: Hmm...thought about it. Not it.

But way to double down on the liberal card and the sexism card.

We don't hate Palin because she's a woman. Actually most don't hate her at all. We just think she is completely unqualified to be VICE President, much less President and many of her beliefs run against the beliefs of the majority of Americans.

But crying sexism is so much easier you sexist pig.

Someone's getting desperate, and leaning on the papers.

The biggest (in font size) story in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch todays is "McCain Leads in Missouri". Never mind that this has been true for a long time.

Tacoby Bellisbury: I just had a WAAAARRRGHHRRRRBL

Are we, lol?!

http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/08-us-pres-ge-mvo.php

Hmmm. Some people who traditionally vote Democratic are, for this election, voting Republican, maybe because of race. A couple thousand, according to the article, and it could be many more.

Other articles, equally well researched, claim some Republicans will be switching their allegiance and voting for Obama.

If this isn't definitive for something or other, I don't know what the word means.

Tacoby Bellisbury: I just had an awakening moment and haven't seen anywhere on the blogsphere about this hatred for Sarah Palin.

Is it not conceivable that the MSM is up in a tizzy fit because an intelligent, beautiful, family and Christ centered woman is a professionally trained Journalist and that she is expressing an opinion that runs counter to the liberal journalistic speak of today?

Just something to think about.....

She went to (six) journalism schools. She is not a journalist, by trade or by skill. And what does "beautiful" or "Christ-centered" have any farking thing to do with her running?

Intelligent? She's proven to be even more inept in terms of knowledge of policy than McCain. They aren't letting her speak to the press except under the strictest softball conditions because she isn't savvy around them. She coasted in Alaska into offices that she then (allegedly) abused and she has no farking clue how to handle running with the big dogs.

Meanwhile, Obama ran for office in Chicago. It's like comparing someone taking karate at the YMCA to someone who was in the IDF for two years.

Tacoby Bellisbury: Of course, while I don't get Palin, i do respect her.
I have watched the women's movement evolve for quite a while. Sarah Palin has disrupted the gains made by the feminist in that she has not "payed her dues" according the the feminist standard. Women advanced themselves by being the "token woman" and the current feminists are still as attached to this concept as Wright is to Black Liberation Theology. As the token woman, the last thing one wants is to be replaced by the next token woman, so women at the top maintained that position by not mentoring younger women. As the years have passed, women have made it on their own, creating a variety of situations which balance career and family. Current feminists are more concerned with maintaing THEIR power and THEIR control than truely advancing women's issues. The public tolerates they feminists, but doesn't like them. Sarah, they love because she is authentic and she resonates with ordinary people. Sarah never saught, asked for or demanded the admiration she is getting and the elites and the feminists are angry that after all they have done to advance themselves, they are upstaged by someone who about serving the interests of others.

You really think this is about tokenism? Are you farking mental?

No, she never sought, asked for, or demanded the admiration. She never worked for it at all. She was the hail mary play McCain's campaign tried after the DNC convention, after the social conservatives put the kibosh on his first two choices (Ridge and Lieberman) for being pro-choice.

Palin was chosen without being vetted, and regardless of whatever incompetence, ignorance, or scandal floats around her people like you still embrace her fanatically because you have no other choice, politically, if you still want to win the election.

The Empress has no clothes.

yay, it must be Opposite Day!

/take yer meds, subby

brooklyn718: Who keeps greenlighting this crap? Has anyone checked out
www.fivethirtyeight.com lately?

Oh, and for clarification, we hate her because she is too dim and ambitious to recognize she isn't qualified to be vp.

But But she can see Russia from her house and can dress a moose. Your a sexist

propasaurus: Tacoby Bellisbury: I just had a WAAAARRRGHHRRRRBL

I think he's brain injured. I'm not kidding.

hubiestubert: Hold on? Are you saying that his continued playing of music that he doesn't have specific permissions to play is your most important issue? You do realize there is a standard fee for playing music in public and he doesn't have to get permission right?