Get in and reestablish before they tell you you home is illegal.
It'll be harder for them to kick you out than just not let you back in.

So, any more word on the thousands of people who stayed behind while their towns got polished flat? Is anybody starting a tally of the missing yet?

jfarkinB: So, any more word on the thousands of people who stayed behind while their towns got polished flat? Is anybody starting a tally of the missing yet?

Raise your hand if you're not here.

jfarkinB: So, any more word on the thousands of people who stayed behind while their towns got polished flat? Is anybody starting a tally of the missing yet?

Gotta love people like you and the media. "How many people died? Huh? Huh? Where's the dead bodies? Can we see them?"

Sickening.

I wonder how many of these people will rebuild their homes on a low-lying island at taxpayer expense?

New Moon Rabbit: Gotta love people like you and the media. "How many people died? Huh? Huh? Where's the dead bodies? Can we see them?"

Yeah, it's just for the sick thrills. It has nothing to do with concern for the people affected. It has nothing to do with demonstrating that evacuations are or are not a good idea. It has nothing to do with accountability.

It's just about a morbid appetite for dead bodies, because, after all, mass casualty events really aren't that important in and of themselves. That's why I asked for pictures of dead bodies. Or at least, that's what I did inside your little fantasy world, which is obviously more important to you than the real one.

New Moon Rabbit: jfarkinB: So, any more word on the thousands of people who stayed behind while their towns got polished flat? Is anybody starting a tally of the missing yet?

Gotta love people like you and the media. "How many people died? Huh? Huh? Where's the dead bodies? Can we see them?"

Sickening.

Especially since the indications are that the missing dead most likely were washed out to sea, so we really can't be sure who's dead, who's missing and who just doesn't want to be found.

Highstand: I wonder how many of these people will rebuild their homes on a low-lying island at taxpayer expense?

So far the initial reports are that the worst hit areas will not allow rebuilding, unlike in certain other natural disasters (not just Katrina).

I still remember a guy talking about a Midwest flood where his family lost the family home for the 4th, yes 4th, time. And when asked what he was going to do, he said rebuild.

43 people, 210 cows, 16 dogs, 13 cats, 18 chickens, and 5 horses died. OR I could just be chittin' you.

You know who else liked to kick citizens out of their homes?

Dumb headline subby. Did you even read the story?

" Some ignored orders to turn around, while others resorted to deception to sneak past police guarding a roadblock.

David Culpepper met his brother Joe in Atlanta, put a phony magnetic sign on a truck to masquerade as contractors and drove down to help a third brother, Michael, who owns an antiques shop on Galveston "

The media is only being told a certain #. The media's getting kind of pissed about it, but they don't want to freak everyone out until they can identify 90% of the bidies. It's a pretty big #. They've notified the insurance companies and have asked us to check on life insurance policies for our Galveston residents.

Pr1nc3ss
The media is only being told a certain #. The media's getting kind of pissed about it, but they don't want to freak everyone out until they can identify 90% of the bidies. It's a pretty big #. They've notified the insurance companies and have asked us to check on life insurance policies for our Galveston residents.

Why would they only want to identify old ladies?

In other news, nothing's more frustrating than getting power restored at midnight, then having it brownout a few hours later.

I've run the whole gamut of human emotions in the past week.

star_topology:

I've run the whole gamut of human emotions in the past week.

From despair to rage?

So what's the deal? Are there bodies mouldering in flooded out homes that nobody is telling us about?

libbynomore2: Dumb headline subby. Did you even read the story?

" Some ignored orders to turn around, while others resorted to deception to sneak past police guarding a roadblock.

David Culpepper met his brother Joe in Atlanta, put a phony magnetic sign on a truck to masquerade as contractors and drove down to help a third brother, Michael, who owns an antiques shop on Galveston "

Awesome. My friend from uni called this. You put ambiguous magnetic signs on your truck, and a hard hat on the dash, and you can go anywhere.

sorhed: So what's the deal? Are there bodies mouldering in flooded out homes that nobody is telling us about?

Have you seen the news at all the past week? The homes were washed out to sea. They're GONE.

Myself, I would be far more concerned about the rising zombie infestation than hurricane aftermath.


Grim reminders of the storm's force accompanied the bits of good news. Cadaver dogs were to sniff through rubble and debris Sunday in Bolivar Peninsula, which suffered even heavier damage that Galveston.

Anyone have any news how many rows of beach houses are gone at Surfside?

Podna: Anyone have any news how many rows of beach houses are gone at Surfside?

All of them?

AltoidAddict: Podna: Anyone have any news how many rows of beach houses are gone at Surfside?

All of them?

Well, they were just replaced by the row behind them.

CrankeBoy: 43 people, 210 cows, 16 dogs, 13 cats, 18 chickens, and 5 horses died. OR I could just be chittin' you.

Those poor chickens.

New Moon Rabbit: jfarkinB: So, any more word on the thousands of people who stayed behind while their towns got polished flat? Is anybody starting a tally of the missing yet?

Gotta love people like you and the media. "How many people died? Huh? Huh? Where's the dead bodies? Can we see them?"

Sickening.

I would think that showing dead, bloated corpses would dissuade people from 'riding out the storm' in the future. It's easier to deny the risks if you don't see the end result.

CrankeBoy: 43 people, 210 cows, 16 dogs, 13 cats, 18 chickens, and 5 horses died. OR I could just be chittin' you.

Sounds official, lets run with it.

cksewell: CrankeBoy: 43 people, 210 cows, 16 dogs, 13 cats, 18 chickens, and 5 horses died. OR I could just be chittin' you.

Those poor chickens.

From today's Weather Underground (www.wunderground.com)

Weather History:
Did you know that...

Never doubt the courage and resolve of chickens. A tornado on this date in 1894 picked up a large chicken house and wedged it between two trees. The next day, the hens were found sitting on their eggs as if nothing had happened.

Timdesuyo: libbynomore2: Dumb headline subby. Did you even read the story?

" Some ignored orders to turn around, while others resorted to deception to sneak past police guarding a roadblock.

David Culpepper met his brother Joe in Atlanta, put a phony magnetic sign on a truck to masquerade as contractors and drove down to help a third brother, Michael, who owns an antiques shop on Galveston "

Awesome. My friend from uni called this. You put ambiguous magnetic signs on your truck, and a hard hat on the dash, and you can go anywhere.

This guy took it to a new level.

Unless people stayed on Bolivar Island i don't think there are massive dead.
Behind the seawall in Galveston there really wasn't enough depth to kill a bunch of people...just shut down the power, water and sewer and cover everything in mud.

My house on the front row in Jamaica Beach is heavily damaged, and quite possibly went under water. I'd let you know after I can go down Wednesday but it will be old news by then.

I have federally subsidized insurance so I will rebuild again. To be fair, I've paid the insurance premiums for 30 years and only had one small claim after Alicia in '83. It's not like I'm burdening the system. Only a small percentage of coastal residents have claims in any given year so the insurance companies should still be making money. When they aren't , they will quit selling insurance.
(I believe the may have quit in Florida)

I've read this week that FEMA is planning on rebuilding our dunes. That's pretty dumb. We just had a $3 million dollar rebuild three years ago, they don't really help. But, for state an local governments, restoring the tax base of expensive beach front homes is positive cost/benefit. You also have the sales taxes of tourism to consider.

I have always had the philosophy that you shouldn't build anything on a barrier island that you aren't prepared to loose at any time. It will happen, again and again. If I get priced out of insurance this time, I won't rebuild again.

I just got back from Texas. I have to laugh at all the Texans that think they are so much better than Katrina/New Orleans. 1st and foremost, this storm was no where near the intensity of Katrina. Had it been, more than the barrier islands would have been destroyed, every home and business within 1/2 mile of water would have been leveled. Other than Galveston Island and waterfront, this did not happen. 2nd. 2.26 Million without power and all of them are whining about not having it in 3 days. Gas lines for 1-2 miles, no ice, no food. All of that was heard for landfall + 3 days.

Why go back to Galveston? It has no power, no water, no anything including sanitary sewer. Do you think poop is going to treat itself? This is why the government is keeping you off the island. Not because they hate you, but because you will cause disease to flourish. What a bunch of whiners.

SouthernManDunWrong

all of them are whining about not having it in 3 days. Gas lines for 1-2 miles, no ice, no food. All of that was heard for landfall + 3 days.

I am not whining so I guess your full of crap.

The people who are complaining are people who would complain any way. I got my canned tuna and beans before the storm, still here, still fine. Texans are strong, takes more than this to take us down.

jfarkinB: So, any more word on the thousands of people who stayed behind while their towns got polished flat? Is anybody starting a tally of the missing yet?

There were some Coast Guard and other officials "off the record" on the news a few days ago venting and being really, really pissed about how much time it was taking them to rescue people and move people who really should have GTFO before the storm.

They followed that up with a message of "don't come back yet." But of course people were streaming back, and getting in the way (according to that guy).

SouthernManDunWrongI have to laugh at all the Texans that think they are so much better than Katrina/New Orleans.

Texans are better than New Orleans. When we opened our doors to the Katrina victims we were hoping they would pull themselves up and get their lives back in order...but nooo after three years they are still sucking Texas for handouts.

SouthernManDunWrong: I have to laugh at all the Texans that think they are so much better than Katrina/New Orleans. 1st and foremost, this storm was no where near the intensity of Katrina. Had it been, more than the barrier islands would have been destroyed, every home and business within 1/2 mile of water would have been leveled.

"Nowhere near" would be an exaggeration. According to one metric, Ike definitely rivaled Katrina,(new window) and when you consider the non-direct damage (surges and surf in Florida, record breaking rain in Chicago and wind nd flooding in Indiana, Ohio and Kentucky) it could also rival Katrina. It's possible Houston lucked out that Ike didn't have another 12 hours to tighten up further, focusing the larger-than-katrina storm coverage into a smaller, even stronger storm, but to brush Ike off utterly is rather ignorant.

Once numbers are tallied -- and some of the insurance numbers are putting Ike as 3rd most destructive in terms of damages and value -- Ike could easily be seen to rival Katrina. Not overwhelm Katrina, but remain comparable.

/wtf is this, "my tragedy is better than yours"?

panzerfaustbob: You know who else liked to kick citizens out of their homes?

Hoover?

/Got nuttin'

I can honestly say I am concerned for the thousands of people this
has displaced. I would like to help out in any way possible, but can't due to no vehicle at the moment. I love Galveston. Used to do alot of work down there at shops, around Clute, Freeport, Tx city. and of course Galveston. Too bad it won't be what I remembered from this point forward. I just hope the city doesn't do a land-grab on all these people that don't come back on the city's time.

It's vitally important to return to check on your vacation home. Especially since the entire area has no power, food, water, sewerage or gas, but plenty of wreckage, downed lines burned out houses and spotty police protection.

Guess they want to make sure their taxpayer-funded insurance will be sufficient to reimburse them for their million dollar summer homes.

/beautiful spot for a million dollar beach home

I misread this as "Ike evacuees getting ravaged by Galvatron."



That is all.

st.theresa: SouthernManDunWrong: I have to laugh at all the Texans that think they are so much better than Katrina/New Orleans. 1st and foremost, this storm was no where near the intensity of Katrina. Had it been, more than the barrier islands would have been destroyed, every home and business within 1/2 mile of water would have been leveled.

"Nowhere near" would be an exaggeration. According to one metric, Ike definitely rivaled Katrina,(new window) and when you consider the non-direct damage (surges and surf in Florida, record breaking rain in Chicago and wind nd flooding in Indiana, Ohio and Kentucky) it could also rival Katrina. It's possible Houston lucked out that Ike didn't have another 12 hours to tighten up further, focusing the larger-than-katrina storm coverage into a smaller, even stronger storm, but to brush Ike off utterly is rather ignorant.

Once numbers are tallied -- and some of the insurance numbers are putting Ike as 3rd most destructive in terms of damages and value -- Ike could easily be seen to rival Katrina. Not overwhelm Katrina, but remain comparable.

/wtf is this, "my tragedy is better than yours"?

The pictures coming out of Texas rival those from the Mississippi Gulf Coast after Hurricane Katrina. Gilchrist=Waveland, Jamica Bay=Bay St Louis and Pass Christian, Seabrook=Long Beach, Gulfport and Biloxi.

Hurricane Ike had a storm surge comparable to what you would expect in a Cat 3 or 4. Even before it hit Texas, it caused flooding in Florida, Alabama, and Mississippi all while moving away from those areas.

I feel for those in Texas who are facing the same mess we in Mississippi faced. Church groups and others along the Mississippi Coast are gathering up supplies to send to Galveston, Beaumont, and Orange Texas. Also, supplies are being sent to Lafayette LA.

For all those Texans who lost their homes or are faced with cleaning the mess from your homes, I wish you the best.

seawitch1261: st.theresa: SouthernManDunWrong: I have to laugh at all the Texans that think they are so much better than Katrina/New Orleans. 1st and foremost, this storm was no where near the intensity of Katrina. Had it been, more than the barrier islands would have been destroyed, every home and business within 1/2 mile of water would have been leveled.

"Nowhere near" would be an exaggeration. According to one metric, Ike definitely rivaled Katrina,(new window) and when you consider the non-direct damage (surges and surf in Florida, record breaking rain in Chicago and wind nd flooding in Indiana, Ohio and Kentucky) it could also rival Katrina. It's possible Houston lucked out that Ike didn't have another 12 hours to tighten up further, focusing the larger-than-katrina storm coverage into a smaller, even stronger storm, but to brush Ike off utterly is rather ignorant.

Once numbers are tallied -- and some of the insurance numbers are putting Ike as 3rd most destructive in terms of damages and value -- Ike could easily be seen to rival Katrina. Not overwhelm Katrina, but remain comparable.

/wtf is this, "my tragedy is better than yours"?

The pictures coming out of Texas rival those from the Mississippi Gulf Coast after Hurricane Katrina. Gilchrist=Waveland, Jamica Bay=Bay St Louis and Pass Christian, Seabrook=Long Beach, Gulfport and Biloxi.

Hurricane Ike had a storm surge comparable to what you would expect in a Cat 3 or 4. Even before it hit Texas, it caused flooding in Florida, Alabama, and Mississippi all while moving away from those areas.

I feel for those in Texas who are facing the same mess we in Mississippi faced. Church groups and others along the Mississippi Coast are gathering up supplies to send to Galveston, Beaumont, and Orange Texas. Also, supplies are being sent to Lafayette LA.

For all those Texans who lost their homes or are faced with cleaning the mess from your homes, I wish you the best.

Granted the pictures from the islands rival the coastline. But what isn't being pictured are the standing homes on Galveston Bay that are still there. The storm surge in Back Bay Biloxi to Gulfport Lake was almost 1/2 mile inland (to the north). When you visit the waterfront properties off the islands (Galveston Bay), you still see all homes standing with a few boats parked in the yards.

No way this surge was as powerful as Katrina. No way this storm was as powerful as Katrina.

SharkTrager: Highstand: I wonder how many of these people will rebuild their homes on a low-lying island at taxpayer expense?

So far the initial reports are that the worst hit areas will not allow rebuilding, unlike in certain other natural disasters (not just Katrina).

I still remember a guy talking about a Midwest flood where his family lost the family home for the 4th, yes 4th, time. And when asked what he was going to do, he said rebuild.

We built the first castle, and it sank into the swamp. So then we built the second castle. And it sank into the swamp. So then we built the third castle, and it stood... A while then caught fire, fell over and sank into the swamp. But the 4th castle stands

I just got my power back on yesterday, and got-damn does that make me happy. Wasn't expecting it for about another week or so.

Who cares what this storm did compared to Katrina? It messed up a lot of shiat that is being cleaned up. You can be part of the problem and biatch, whine, or hamper relief efforts, or you can be a part of the solution and clean up your house, and help out your family and neighbors. Everybody is looking to make that comparison. Obviously it wasn't nearly as bad of a clusterfark. Lessons were learned from NO\Katrina, apparently. At the very least, the gov. was pretty much forced to do its job due to the amount of attention this storm got (which was due to Katrina). No need to act like children about it. It is what it is. STFU and make yourself useful.

Timdesuyo: libbynomore2: Dumb headline subby. Did you even read the story?

" Some ignored orders to turn around, while others resorted to deception to sneak past police guarding a roadblock.

David Culpepper met his brother Joe in Atlanta, put a phony magnetic sign on a truck to masquerade as contractors and drove down to help a third brother, Michael, who owns an antiques shop on Galveston "

Awesome. My friend from uni called this. You put ambiguous magnetic signs on your truck, and a hard hat on the dash, and you can go anywhere.

This also works for carts. If you have a cart and look like you've got somewhere to be, no one will bother you. I once walked out of my high school with about forty thousand dollars in routers and PCs on a cart, and no one said a thing...

/was taking a shortcut to another wing