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In all fairness, Will got in ONE little fight and his mom got scared - that's why he moved in with his auntie and uncle in Bel-Air.

"Asinine" because the other 13 bars and their patrons would want thugs in their bars?

Seems such a small thing, and yet this New England good old boy network style locks all kinds of people out of all kinds of institutions all around that area. This isn't just some strange example, it is how people interact there. Fail to conform enough that you scare someone and some point, and who knows how much you might find yourself locked out of?

Thrown out of a bar...

Everyone should at least have one bar where they are the hero.
Everyone should also have at least one bar they've been thrown out of.

You could get all pissy about the blacklist, or you could learn to behave in public and not get thrown out of bars. I think it is kinda heavyhanded to have this list, but on the other hand I've been in bars where they let all kinds of troublemakers in, and once they start something they aren't thrown out immediately if they are a regular.

I just got 86'd at the corner pub this morning, so I am really getting a kick........

/really
//long story
///involved a meat roll (not by me)

Big Whoop. Wanna fight about it?!

m0llusk
Seems such a small thing, and yet this New England good old boy network style locks all kinds of people out of all kinds of institutions all around that area. This isn't just some strange example, it is how people interact there. Fail to conform enough that you scare someone and some point, and who knows how much you might find yourself locked out of?

They prefer it to a place where they might get knifed if they accidentally don't give some one his expected props.

As a resident of Seacoast NH, I have been thrown out of every bar on the list.

/Aim High

m0llusk: Seems such a small thing, and yet this New England good old boy network style locks all kinds of people out of all kinds of institutions all around that area. This isn't just some strange example, it is how people interact there. Fail to conform enough that you scare someone and some point, and who knows how much you might find yourself locked out of?

Yes, or: Don't be a drunken jackass.

What, they're going to shun you from the gas station, McDonalds, and hospital? please.

You obviously don't know much about New Hampshire, which is one of the friendliest places on earth.

Considering how arbitrary so many meathead bouncers can be, this seems like a bad idea. Some Bluto doesn't like you wearing a hat in the bar, and soon you can't get a drink in town?

Don't private companies have the right to say who they will and will not serve?

I worked in bars for many years. I think this is a great idea. Most of the people in the bar are fine. The people getting thrown out need to learn how to act in public, around other people, otherwise they can stay home and drink.

I do think it should be for 30 days 1st time, 1 year 2nd, then lifetime.

peachpicker: Considering how arbitrary so many meathead bouncers can be, this seems like a bad idea. Some Bluto doesn't like you wearing a hat in the bar, and soon you can't get a drink in town?

Erm, considering it's their establishment and they have every right to impose whatever conditions they please on service?

Is the list permanent? Do you go on it for getting kicked out from being too drunk?

I mean, everyone gets thrown out at some point for drinking too much, but it should be a get home, sober up, and don't get that bad again.

/Portsmouth is a great town.

m0llusk: Seems such a small thing, and yet this New England good old boy network style locks all kinds of people out of all kinds of institutions all around that area. This isn't just some strange example, it is how people interact there. Fail to conform enough that you scare someone and some point, and who knows how much you might find yourself locked out of?

The same could be said about burnt out hippie douchebags living in Silicon Valley...

In NH, you don't have to have a reason to kick someone out of a bar. Could be the colour of their hair, their breath, their shoes.

Doesn't matter. Bars reserve the right to not serve anyone without having to provide a reason, provided it does not violate any state or federal discrimination laws. The only problem I have is the police enforcing the list.

We did the same thing in a town in NH, but we made agreements amongst the bar managers in town and kept the cops out of it.

It sounds like what the casinos do to keep card counters out. As far as I know, nobody has successfully challenged the casinos excluding people who aren't doing anything illegal.

As long as they never ban a minority or woman they will probably get away with it.

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Oops, didn't read the comments before posting - should've known I wouldn't have been the only one thinking of him right away!

sojourner: peachpicker: Considering how arbitrary so many meathead bouncers can be, this seems like a bad idea. Some Bluto doesn't like you wearing a hat in the bar, and soon you can't get a drink in town?

Erm, considering it's their establishment and they have every right to impose whatever conditions they please on service?

What do we need logic for? We have RIGHTS.

The fact that the blacklist is shared with and *enforced by* police (according to TFA) makes this a constitutional issue. Bar bouncers don't have to, and never do, use due process in deciding whom to bounce. That's the right of each establishment to serve whom they want when they want. But if the cops are going to threaten you with a criminal charge based on the spot decision of a bouncer, the city's cruising for a legal smackdown. And a bar or restaurant that will let other bars' bouncers decide whom they can serve in their own place -- that's just foolish. I'm thinking eventually these bars get wise that they need to review decisions made by Brutus the bouncer down the street.

FTFA:

Egelston said he's in favor of working other bars and warning them that "trouble is on the way." But the barment letter went too far for him.

"We feel the decision to bar any given individual from our premises should be our decision to make," he said. "I want to take full responsibility for that."

Word.

mikaloyd: As long as they never ban a minority or woman they will probably get away with it.

Not going to be a problem in New Hampshire.

sojourner: peachpicker: Considering how arbitrary so many meathead bouncers can be, this seems like a bad idea. Some Bluto doesn't like you wearing a hat in the bar, and soon you can't get a drink in town?

Erm, considering it's their establishment and they have every right to impose whatever conditions they please on service?

I didn't say anything about rights. What I'm saying is that you may have an employee in one bar make a poor decision, yet it's automatically enforced by more that a dozen others as well, regardless of whether they would or would not have made the same decision. I'm just surprised that there was only one bar owner who pulled out after the list was made. In the "Live Free or Die" state I'd like to think that more folks would like to keep business decisions in their own hands, and in their own employees' hands, and not delegate that responsibility to Joe Schmo in a bar across town, whom you didn't hire and can't supervise.

sojourner: peachpicker: Considering how arbitrary so many meathead bouncers can be, this seems like a bad idea. Some Bluto doesn't like you wearing a hat in the bar, and soon you can't get a drink in town?

Erm, considering it's their establishment and they have every right to impose whatever conditions they please on service?

What if one of those conditions happens to be, don't order too often from the female bartender they happen to be obsessively jealous over?

This is crap. You better hope you don't flirt with the wrong waitress in Portsmouth.

TMBGfreak: mikaloyd: As long as they never ban a minority or woman they will probably get away with it.

Not going to be a problem in New Hampshire.

Yeah, Steve doesn't really like bars.

FTA: City Police Chief Michael Magnant said..."(The list) may not fly in the court, but let's see where it does fly."

I smell settlement money.

/getting thrown out of bars for fun and profit, woot

Tacoby Bellisbury: You obviously don't know much about New Hampshire, which is one of the friendliest places on earth.

I love you, Johnny Cakes.

FTA: "(The list) may not fly in the court, but let's see where it does fly," Magnant said.

You'd think that one of the qualifications for "Police Chief" would be a somewhat basic understanding of the law.

Yeah, I can't think of any bar that would be like "You're a girl and you snuck in here... Banned!"

tonesskin: TMBGfreak: mikaloyd: As long as they never ban a minority or woman they will probably get away with it.

Not going to be a problem in New Hampshire.

Yeah, Steve doesn't really like bars.

But what about Cleveland?!
/That's naaahhssty

Joker you diabolical..., hey f*ck you buddy.

Who the hell would want to go to a bar in Portsmouth anyway when Hampton Beach is the next town over and is the most happenin' place?

Most of those bars are trouble spots anyway and some have had their liquor licenses suspended for over-serving or some other infraction. Notice that the Coat of Arms wasn't on that list... Best. Bar. Ever.

But Prof_Moriarity got it right:
Everyone should at least have one bar where they are the hero.
Everyone should also have at least one bar they've been thrown out of.

piaddic120: Joker you diabolical..., hey f*ck you buddy.


Aww, buck up, little camper. It was in The Onion long ago, so the damage is already done.

And it's all true.

(The list) may not fly in the court, but let's see where it does fly

Yeah, why not? After all, when it flies into civil court YOU won't have to pay for the lawyers and the judgement out of YOUR pocket, right Chief?

dbutters: Don't private companies have the right to say who they will and will not serve?

Not really, no. That's a myth.

You can't, for example, put a sign out front that says "NO BLACKS."

As a small business owner, I think they're in their rights to do this.

Also as a small business owner, I think blacklisting customers is a bad idea, considering how arbitrary bar "rules" are enforced.

The guy who opted out had it right - who's going to handle the due process? what a pain in the ass that would be. As they say... nothing good can come from this.

Timanous:

Doesn't matter. Bars reserve the right to not serve anyone without having to provide a reason, provided it does not violate any state or federal discrimination laws. The only problem I have is the police enforcing the list.

Great point. While you can't have "whites only" bars, you can have "non-belligerent drinkers only" bars. You come in, you get belligerent, and you refuse to leave -- you're trespassing. You're on the blacklist, you got to another bar, and you refuse to leave when they ask you -- you're trespassing.

If you can't handle your buzz, then stay the fark home.

Prof_Moriarity: Everyone should at least have one bar where they are the hero.
Everyone should also have at least one bar they've been thrown out of.

I'm batting .500.

XTeacher: You're on the blacklist, you got to another bar, and you refuse to leave when they ask you -- you're trespassing.

The problem is that the bars are trying to reserve the right to have people arrested without them asking you to leave first.

I think I'm going to side with those preaching "don't be an ass in public".

peewinkle: I just got 86'd at the corner pub this morning, so I am really getting a kick........

/really
//long story
///involved a meat roll (not by me)

Expound please. The meat roll I mean. I woke up hungry.

bubbaprog: XTeacher: You're on the blacklist, you got to another bar, and you refuse to leave when they ask you -- you're trespassing.

The problem is that the bars are trying to reserve the right to have people arrested without them asking you to leave first.

I agree.

I went out barhopping with a guy who had been thrown out of nearly every bar in town (a friend of a friend kind of deal). At every bar, the bouncer would say to us, "The rest of you are welcome to come in, but that guy cannot come in here."

That's all it takes.

XTeacher: I went out barhopping with a guy who had been thrown out of nearly every bar in town (a friend of a friend kind of deal). At every bar, the bouncer would say to us, "The rest of you are welcome to come in, but that guy cannot come in here."

Did you leave him outside at each place? Because that's both funny and cold.

What is up with all of the Seacoastonline links? There is one on the main page every day. It can't be random; there aren't that many people here.

Is Seacoastonline paying for Fark links?

There are other newspapers with websites in the area, but it's always Seacoastonline.

I always assume its just someone who works for the newspaper trying to drive up hits on their articles.

peachpicker: XTeacher: I went out barhopping with a guy who had been thrown out of nearly every bar in town (a friend of a friend kind of deal). At every bar, the bouncer would say to us, "The rest of you are welcome to come in, but that guy cannot come in here."

Did you leave him outside at each place? Because that's both funny and cold.

There was this other night where a friend of mine was thrown out of a bar and into the snowy night. We didn't know that he had been thrown out, so when it came time to leave, we saw him looking into one of the front windows of the bar. He looked like Jack Nicholson at the end of The Shining. He was actually fairly hypothermic by then, and so was I by the time I had walked to the car in a T-shirt after I had given him my coat. Good times.

But to answer your question, no. Had he been a friend of mine, I probably would have done that at least once, though.

XTeacher: peachpicker: XTeacher: I went out barhopping with a guy who had been thrown out of nearly every bar in town (a friend of a friend kind of deal). At every bar, the bouncer would say to us, "The rest of you are welcome to come in, but that guy cannot come in here."

Did you leave him outside at each place? Because that's both funny and cold.

There was this other night where a friend of mine was thrown out of a bar and into the snowy night. We didn't know that he had been thrown out, so when it came time to leave, we saw him looking into one of the front windows of the bar. He looked like Jack Nicholson at the end of The Shining. He was actually fairly hypothermic by then, and so was I by the time I had walked to the car in a T-shirt after I had given him my coat. Good times.

But to answer your question, no. Had he been a friend of mine, I probably would have done that at least once, though.

Why did he get thrown out?

Don't know if the Cops need to be in on the list, but bars have been sharing info on problem customers for years. A comprehensive list sounds like a helluva good idea. Asshat troublemakers don't deserve the privilege of attending such a place. However, if you do the SMART thing and immediately comply when a Bouncer says "OK, time to go" without arguing or trying to prove a point, you'll probably be welcome back next time and never even GET on the list. When I was bouncing, if you were too drunk or rowdy, and you complied when told to leave, the last thing we said to you was "See you next time." Only the ones who made a fuss were barred.

Still, It's not like anyone has a "right" to be allowed in a bar. That's the beauty of private industry. If they don't want your patronage, they don't have to serve you.

Folks don't seem to understand that, for all intents and purposes, going to a bar is legally no different than going to someone's house. The owner is absolute master and ruler, and what he says goes. He can let in (or not) anyone for any reason, and he can order anyone to leave for any (or no) reason. If you don't leave INSTANTLY, you're trespassing, so he can use the minimum force necessary to MAKE you leave without any further warning. If you resist, you can be charged with assault.

Don't like it? Don't go.

(Oh, and to head off the stupidity and generalizations....in 3 full years working the door in a Calgary nightclub I threw ONE punch.)