Wasn't this kind of expected already?

Good -- perhaps he will have time to schedule a quick 5-min Q&A so Palin can get her "foreign policy experience"

A power vacuum in Israel...what could possibly go wrong?

Neurochemist: Good -- perhaps he will have time to schedule a quick 5-min Q&A so Palin can get her "foreign policy experience"

Oh no you didn't.

/Link Farked already?

Neurochemist: Good -- perhaps he will have time to schedule a quick 5-min Q&A so Palin can get her "foreign policy experience"

dont be so fungible

MonkeyVegetables: Neurochemist: Good -- perhaps he will have time to schedule a quick 5-min Q&A so Palin can get her "foreign policy experience"

dont be so fungible

Well there's no reason NOT to vote for Palin-McCain now, right?

I never knew medical CT was developed there.

So, who's favorite to replace him? Moderates or Hard-Liners?

Half Man Half Biscuit: So, who's favorite to replace him? Moderates or Hard-Liners?

The daughter of an Irgun thug.

Tzipi Livni, who is a member of Kadima and a former cabinet member of Sharon's. She's thought to be more moderate, which would be helpful for the region.

HowlingFrog: Half Man Half Biscuit: So, who's favorite to replace him? Moderates or Hard-Liners?

The daughter of an Irgun thug.

Those connections will be hard to avoid in Israeli politics for a while.

CayceP: Tzipi Livni, who is a member of Kadima and a former cabinet member of Sharon's. She's thought to be more moderate, which would be helpful for the region.

Yeah, that and the whole head negotiator thing might help with the Palestine issue.

CayceP: She's thought to be more moderate, which would be helpful for the region.

Yes, she's shown a willingness to open lines of communication. My comment about her father aside, she may well be a great Prime Minister.

I'm just here to say that I'll be appearing later in this thread.

Tzipi Livni's installation is a key step for a greenlight to bomb Iran. Olmert was discredited by the Lebannon fiasco but Livni can step in and work with the Bush/Cheney administration to get us stuck in before our elections.

Then the republicans can spin it so that Israel is on the brink of destruction as Iran retaliates, and voting democrat would leave our staunchest ally defenseless.

I can just see the photo-op of Sarah Palin and Tzipi Livni surveying the Holy Land, as f-16s fly overhead, McCain somberly reflecting in the background, Lieberman whispering in his ear.

So when is Sharon gonna be back?

If she can't form a government in 42 days, hardliners are widely favored to retake government. It's kind of like the inverse of the beginning of the Ford administration after Nixon!

That said, we didn't need this right now. Nobody needed this right now. Not even Iran or the Palestinians who could make use of the instability, even they're in the awkward position of 2nd fiddle to the world economic crisis.

Tzipi is inviting Meretz into the coalition. This is a very good sign, in my view.

I wouldn't be surprised if ultimately there's a wholesale party realignment (again) to prevent Netanyahu from getting a plurality in the next elections.

Paving the way for an attack on Iran, eh?

Palin's church might get the end-times it so desperately wants.

Seriously, can we just fence off the whole "cradle of civilization" before it becomes the grave of civilization?

BuyTheTicketTakeTheRide: If she can't form a government in 42 days, hardliners are widely favored to retake government. It's kind of like the inverse of the beginning of the Ford administration after Nixon!

That said, we didn't need this right now. Nobody needed this right now. Not even Iran or the Palestinians who could make use of the instability, even they're in the awkward position of 2nd fiddle to the world economic crisis.

Yeah, that would be fun. Then we'd get hardliners on both sides and the place really would turn into a parking lot, completely without us or Iran getting involved.

CitizenReserveCorps: So when is Sharon gonna be back?

If he comes back, he'll come to the U.S. and be Zombie Reagan's veep candidate. Terry Schiavo can be the campaign manager.

Big Dave: Tzipi Livni's installation is a key step for a greenlight to bomb Iran.

What do you base that on?
She was often criticized under the Sharon administration for being too dovish.

towatchoverme: Paving the way for an attack on Iran, eh?

Palin's church might get the end-times it so desperately wants.

Seriously, can we just fence off the whole "cradle of civilization" before it becomes the grave of civilization?

Palin's church is NOT Christian Zionist. They don't believe that a reconstructed Jewish Temple will bring about the Armageddon, their goal is to convert Jews in Israel to Christianity.

towatchoverme: Paving the way for an attack on Iran, eh?

Palin's church might get the end-times it so desperately wants.

Seriously, can we just fence off the whole "cradle of civilization" before it becomes the grave of civilization?

Nevermind Palin's church--John Hagee's megachurch hears every day how good Christians are under divine command to protect and defend Israel. I hope I live to see the day that foreign policy isn't so driven by Judeo-Christian eschatology in America.

towatchoverme: Paving the way for an attack on Iran, eh?
Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran?

Palin's church might get the end-times it so desperately wants.


Seriously, can we just fence off the whole "cradle of civilization" before it becomes the grave of civilization?
Pretty sure the "cradle of civilization" is in Africa, but I'm feeling you if by "fence" you mean total annihilation.

Good riddance.

Die Polizei: Pretty sure the "cradle of civilization" is in Africa

Nope, mesopotamia.

HowlingFrog - I'm not an expert on internal Israeli politics, but I did follow Livni's comments closely during the Lebanon war (she reminded me of Dee Dee Myers) and there was plenty of hawkish language and towing the party line with respect to that war. I would be interested to hear some sensible policy from her.

But the facts in both Israel and America are that the hardcore conservatives are inexorably linked, by religion, by each political system which needs the other to a certain extent, and by the realpolitik on the ground.

Our own interests as Americans who want to avoid any more foreign wars should dictate that we watch what happens in our 'only ally' in the middle east very closely, when we are at such a critical point in our own election process.

Maybe they won't need a well-co-ordinated strike against Iran, as I had previously thought would be necessary. Maybe a skirmish, a little wag the dog, a lot of hyperbole and a frightened America will give them what they want.

Another American administration that will let Israel do what it wants, without question, and a pissed off beligerent Iran to continue making threats to justify our presence in the middle east.

Policy and national interests aside, I wish the evangelicals would decide whether they are actually Christians, or continue thumping the old testament and actually be honest enough to call themselves Jewish.

the party's new leader, Tzipi Livni, said Friday.

Tzipi?

Anarchofascist: Palin's church is NOT Christian Zionist. They don't believe that a reconstructed Jewish Temple will bring about the Armageddon, their goal is to convert Jews in Israel to Christianity.

WTF?

CayceP: Tzipi Livni, who is a member of Kadima an

Is that pronounced "Zippy"?

Anarchofascist

"Palin's church is NOT Christian Zionist. They don't believe that a reconstructed Jewish Temple will bring about the Armageddon, their goal is to convert Jews in Israel to Christianity."


-haha! The whole Armeggeddon scenario is more likely to happen than that. Prostelytzing for Christianity is an actual crime in Israel...

Riche

-Is that her talking about a land grab in the Territories?

BuyTheTicketTakeTheRide: If she can't form a government in 42 days, hardliners are widely favored to retake government.

I doubt it. I think Likud will get a narrow win, and they'll have to work with either Labour or Kadima to form a government. It will be funny when in the end it's Bibi who ends up dividing Jerusalem.

Amigajoe
Prostelytzing for Christianity is an actual crime in Israel...

If it isn't, it should be.

Amigajoe: Prostelytzing for Christianity is an actual crime in Israel...

Proselytizing for any religion is a sin in Judaism, but it's not a crime in Israel unless they use material goods to win people over.

Anarchofascist: towatchoverme: Paving the way for an attack on Iran, eh?

Palin's church might get the end-times it so desperately wants.

Seriously, can we just fence off the whole "cradle of civilization" before it becomes the grave of civilization?

Palin's church is NOT Christian Zionist. They don't believe that a reconstructed Jewish Temple will bring about the Armageddon, their goal is to convert Jews in Israel to Christianity.

Isn't that the same thing, scriptually and practically?

Die Polizei: Seriously, can we just fence off the whole "cradle of civilization" before it becomes the grave of civilization?
Pretty sure the "cradle of civilization" is in Africa, but I'm feeling you if by "fence" you mean total annihilation.

Man, these "nuke it from orbit" jokes are so farking funny! They're hilarious. They're so original and clever. Please, can someone else post some more of these? They're so great. They're one thousand times better than sex. And they aren't only funny, but they are well informed. More of these funny, funny jokes now!

Because they're so funny.

shpritz Proselytizing for any religion is a sin in Judaism

Bravo, Judaism!

shpritz: Amigajoe: Prostelytzing for Christianity is an actual crime in Israel...

Proselytizing for any religion is a sin in Judaism, but it's not a crime in Israel unless they use material goods to win people over.

I'll give you $5 if you become a Scientologist.

Big Dave: Tzipi Livni's installation is a key step for a greenlight to bomb Iran. Olmert was discredited by the Lebannon fiasco but Livni can step in and work with the Bush/Cheney administration to get us stuck in before our elections.


Then they realize that the only available force to send to Iran are the Boy Scouts of America, as they've exhausted their forces on two other fronts.

panzerfaustbob: shpritz: Amigajoe: Prostelytzing for Christianity is an actual crime in Israel...

Proselytizing for any religion is a sin in Judaism, but it's not a crime in Israel unless they use material goods to win people over.

I'll give you $5 if you become a Scientologist.

Scientologists take your money, not the other way around.

panzerfaustbob: shpritz: Amigajoe: Prostelytzing for Christianity is an actual crime in Israel...

Proselytizing for any religion is a sin in Judaism, but it's not a crime in Israel unless they use material goods to win people over.

I'll give you $5 if you become a Scientologist.

I'll give you $5 if you can film some Hasidic types going all Leviticus on a Scientologist.

Tzipi(diminutive of Tziporah which means bird thus the nickname the bird-brain) AKA Zippy the Pinhead is a lackey of Mammy Condoleezza and can't lift her hand unless her mammy pulls the strings.
Number one she has 6 weeks to form a coalition, to succeed she needs the cooperation of the current parties Labor led by Peewee Herman look alike Ehud Barak, and Shas led by Eli my scruples can be bought Yishai as well as the Old Fart Pensioners party led by Mr. Magoo look alike former spy Rafi Eitan.
Ehud I am not a crook Olmert was not discredited by the Lebanon War, he was discredited by 6 police investigations of fraud, bribery, and other charges.
So by the time she even attamps to assemble a coalition and be the next PM American Elections will have taken place, so do not think that any thing will happen with Iran unless Dubya has a premature ejaculation and pushes a button by mistake.

MonkeyVegetables: Neurochemist: Good -- perhaps he will have time to schedule a quick 5-min Q&A so Palin can get her "foreign policy experience"

dont be so fungible

Holy Crap, it's actually a real word!

fungible

adjective
1. of goods or commodities; freely exchangeable for or replaceable by another of like nature or kind in the satisfaction of an obligation

noun
1. a commodity that is freely interchangeable with another in satisfying an obligation


/my mind, consider it blow'd

Amigajoe: Riche

-Is that her talking about a land grab in the Territories?

Nope. That's a "Tune in Tokyo!" right there.

/boobies
//grabbin em

Boy the democrats on here sure have a fixation with Palin. You must be really threatened by the possibility of a woman as VP.

Alacritous: CayceP: Tzipi Livni, who is a member of Kadima an

Is that pronounced "Zippy"?

Well, they had a YAHOO once.