Preserved DNA from giant bone remnants found in the Gaza?

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FTFA: Author warns genetic engineering could bring back 'Nephilim'

That was a pretty cool game, even if not Chaosium's best.

Wait, they mean for real?

They weren't demonic, that's bad bibling.

Some translations call them heroes!

Damn that's some crazy shiat,even from WND.

APPROVE

/Nephilinked

He's a big un. I'll bet he could ride a dinosaur.

bringing on a biblical apocalypse - is there anything science can't do?

I'd like to know why fallen angels stopped having sex with human women. Was it the offspring that made them go, "Whoa, hey, this isn't right, man" or were human women the kind of creatures fallen angels got pregnant but didn't take home to Satan and they lost their appeal after awhile?

I have so many questions.

ToxicMunkee: I'd like to know why fallen angels stopped having sex with human women. Was it the offspring that made them go, "Whoa, hey, this isn't right, man" or were human women the kind of creatures fallen angels got pregnant but didn't take home to Satan and they lost their appeal after awhile?

I have so many questions.

well...as I understand it, the angels essentially impregnated the women with themselves - they replaced the soul in the womb with themselves. In doing so, they bound themselves to a human existence. Once they died though, that was it - they were truly dead forever. But as angel/human hybrids they didn't exactly age like humans either. If you believe that sort of thing, they have continued to exist down through human history, manipulating their decendants, waging a war for unknowable purposes.

ToxicMunkee: I'd like to know why fallen angels stopped having sex with human women. Was it the offspring that made them go, "Whoa, hey, this isn't right, man" or were human women the kind of creatures fallen angels got pregnant but didn't take home to Satan and they lost their appeal after awhile?

I have so many questions.

I don't think they stopped. I think they just changed their name to "gray aliens". And no more offspring because they also changed their technique to the very popular "anal probe".

I bet most of the people in this thread talking about Nephilim will have no idea who Seth is.

staplermofo: I bet most of the people in this thread talking about Nephilim will have no idea who Seth is.

staplermofo: I bet most of the people in this thread talking about Nephilim will have no idea who Seth is.

A pretty wimpy name for a fallen angel?

Weaver95: ToxicMunkee: I'd like to know why fallen angels stopped having sex with human women. Was it the offspring that made them go, "Whoa, hey, this isn't right, man" or were human women the kind of creatures fallen angels got pregnant but didn't take home to Satan and they lost their appeal after awhile?

I have so many questions.

well...as I understand it, the angels essentially impregnated the women with themselves - they replaced the soul in the womb with themselves. In doing so, they bound themselves to a human existence. Once they died though, that was it - they were truly dead forever. But as angel/human hybrids they didn't exactly age like humans either. If you believe that sort of thing, they have continued to exist down through human history, manipulating their decendants, waging a war for unknowable purposes. and making some kick-ass goth-rock in the process.

/FTFM

T-Servo: staplermofo: I bet most of the people in this thread talking about Nephilim will have no idea who Seth is.

A pretty wimpy name for a fallen angel?

The Sons of Seth has a nice ring to it, though.

Jesus, WND is a bunch of f*cking loonies. It's like they're not even trying to hide it anymore.

Weaver95

If you believe that sort of thing, they have continued to exist down through human history, manipulating their decendants, waging a war for unknowable purposes.

They want to trick us all into hanging our toilet paper the wrong way, which is, of course, SATAN's way!

/This would have been a better rationale for Babylon V's eternal war than the actual how-to-influence-evolution bullshiat.

oldebayer: /This would have been a better rationale for Babylon V's eternal war than the actual how-to-influence-evolution bullshiat.

I think the Shadows were right - chaos and conflict weed out the weak and strengthen the survivors.

Weaver95: I think the Shadows were right - chaos and conflict weed out the weak and strengthen the survivors.

sometimes the survivors are those who run and hide.

Correct me if I am wrong, but what proof was there for these "giants?" Isn't it likely that the biblical records of large beings are just really poorly interpreted animal skeletons? I know for a fact that the ancient Greeks made a ton of these mistakes, reburying skeletons of "giants" and "monsters" which were actually prehistoric mammals.

Hobodeluxe: Weaver95: I think the Shadows were right - chaos and conflict weed out the weak and strengthen the survivors.

sometimes the survivors are those who run and hide.

either way, evolution is served - the survivors come out better for the conflict, or they're destroyed. The weak perish, the strong survive.

That article read like the back cover of a shiatty Sci-Fi novel. Probably because it was a plug for a shiatty Sci-Fi novel.


For this thread I will be reprising the role of an avid UFOlogist who believes in Biblical Creation.

Weaver95

I think the Shadows were right - chaos and conflict weed out the weak and strengthen the survivors.

The idea of guiding evolution is absurd. Weeding out the weak and strengthening the survivors is fine, IF you know for sure that the indeterminate future will require them to be strong. The nifty thing about evolution is that things change unpredictably, and given enough time, life can adapt to WHATEVER is necessary to survive. Being strong is not necessarily a good thing. It might be preferable to be weak IF you also have immunity to some new disease.

That's why I hated the BV denouement: surely races that have been around for hundreds of thousands of years would realize this.

But will they be happy?

1. And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters. 2. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children.' 3. And Semjâzâ, who was their leader, said unto them: 'I fear ye will not indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.' 4. And they all answered

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him and said: 'Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.' 5. Then sware they all together and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. 6. And they were in all two hundred; who descended ⌈in the days⌉ of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. 7. And these are the names of their leaders: Sêmîazâz, their leader, Arâkîba, Râmêêl, Kôkabîêl, Tâmîêl, Râmîêl, Dânêl, Êzêqêêl, Barâqîjâl, Asâêl, Armârôs, Batârêl, Anânêl, Zaqîêl, Samsâpêêl, Satarêl, Tûrêl, Jômjâêl, Sariêl. 8. These are their chiefs of tens.

CHAPTER VII.

1. And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. 2. And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: 3. Who consumed all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, 4. the giants turned against them and devoured mankind. 5. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood. 6. Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.

CHAPTER VIII.

1. And Azâzêl taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields, and breastplates, and made known to them the metals 〈of the earth〉 and the art of working them, and bracelets, and ornaments, and the use of antimony, and the beautifying of the eyelids, and all kinds of costly stones, and all colouring tinctures. 2. And there arose much godlessness, and they committed fornication, and they were led astray, and became corrupt in all their ways. Semjâzâ taught enchantments, and root-cuttings, Armârôs the resolving of enchantments, Barâqîjâl,

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[paragraph continues] (taught) astrology, Kôkabêl the constellations, Ezêqêêl the knowledge of the clouds, 〈Araqiêl the signs of the earth, Shamsiêl the signs of the sun〉, and Sariêl the course of the moon. And as men perished, they cried, and their cry went up to heaven . . .

CHAPTER IX.

1. And then Michael, Uriel, Raphael, and Gabriel looked down from heaven and saw much blood being shed upon the earth, and all lawlessness being wrought upon the earth. 2. And they said one to another: 'The earth made †without inhabitant cries the voice of their crying† up to the gates of heaven. 3 ⌈⌈And now to you, the holy ones of heaven⌉⌉, the souls of men make their suit, saying, "Bring our cause before the Most High.".' 4. And they said to the Lord of the ages: 'Lord of lords, God of gods, King of kings, 〈and God of the ages〉, the throne of Thy glory (standeth) unto all the generations of the ages, and Thy name holy and glorious and blessed unto all the ages! 5. Thou hast made all things, and power over all things hast Thou: and all things are naked and open in Thy sight, and Thou seest all things, and nothing can hide itself from Thee. 6. Thou seest what Azâzêl hath done, who hath taught all unrighteousness on earth and revealed the eternal secrets which were (preserved) in heaven, which men were striving to learn: 7. And Semjâzâ, to whom Thou hast given authority to bear rule over his associates. 8. And they have gone to the daughters of men upon the earth, and have slept with the women, and have defiled themselves, and revealed to them all kinds of sins. 9. And the women have borne giants, and the whole earth has thereby been filled with blood and unrighteousness. 10. And now, behold, the souls of those who have died are crying and making their suit to the gates of heaven, and their lamentations have ascended: and cannot cease because of the lawless deeds which are wrought on the earth. 11. And Thou knowest all things before they come to pass, and

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[paragraph continues] Thou seest these things and Thou dost suffer them, and Thou dost not say to us what we are to do to them in regard to these.'

The book of Enoch rocks!

Why pro wrestling? Have they proven that homosexual tendencies are genetic?

I saw that movie on the Sci Fi channel. It was pretty bad.

as to the Nephilhim, maybe this is a myth-enhanced memory of some old civilization where the people had their act together. As in they had good nutrition and a good food supply, so their people grew taller and stronger and better looking than other peoples. Thus looking like angelic giants. (and having bronze age tech among stone age people)

Giants are nice, and they were more common in more cultures than most people know. Heck, they're digging up a Dark Ages British graveyard that is full of giant warriors (Tallest 6'10", average 6'6"). But giants are not cost effective in the long run.
Goliath was taken down by a sling stone. We have machineguns now.

oldebayer: Weaver95

I think the Shadows were right - chaos and conflict weed out the weak and strengthen the survivors.

The idea of guiding evolution is absurd. Weeding out the weak and strengthening the survivors is fine, IF you know for sure that the indeterminate future will require them to be strong. The nifty thing about evolution is that things change unpredictably, and given enough time, life can adapt to WHATEVER is necessary to survive. Being strong is not necessarily a good thing. It might be preferable to be weak IF you also have immunity to some new disease.

That's why I hated the BV denouement: surely races that have been around for hundreds of thousands of years would realize this.

Somehow this reminds me of something that I observed a few months ago.

I was driving down the highway, and I saw something in the middle of my lane - apparently it was black furry caterpillar season. I made sure to pass over it without running it over (hey, I'm not sadistic), only to look in my rearview mirror and see a bird swoop down and get it.

Thus, the black caterpillar on a concrete highway made it visible enough that I didn't run it over - but that same visibility made it an obvious choice for an avian snack.

Darwin can be kind of a dick.

As much as this kind of things are awesome, I'd like to creat certain genetically modified abominations for my army:

1.- Dragons (great airborne artillery)
2.- Minotarus (Shock troopers)
3.- Centaurs

I'd rule with an iron fist.

and my penis.

ToxicMunkee:
I'd like to know why fallen angels stopped having sex with human women. Was it the offspring that made them go, "Whoa, hey, this isn't right, man" or were human women the kind of creatures fallen angels got pregnant but didn't take home to Satan and they lost their appeal after awhile?

I have so many questions.

Basically it says that the women were made to cover up their hair and wear more clothes and this stopped the fallen angels getting horny and having their way with the womenfolk. Basically its the she dressed like a slut so was asking for it defense, on a biblical scale.

Genetic engineering and fallen angels? Be careful what you ask for, WorldNetDaily...

doesn't re-create imply that they once existed?

/i'm going to re-create dragons, in that case

Weaver95: well...as I understand it, the angels essentially impregnated the women with themselves - they replaced the soul in the womb with themselves. In doing so, they bound themselves to a human existence. Once they died though, that was it - they were truly dead forever. But as angel/human hybrids they didn't exactly age like humans either. If you believe that sort of thing, they have continued to exist down through human history, manipulating their decendants, waging a war for unknowable purposes.

There's an interesting theory that the pre-flood giants in the bible may be a reference to Neanderthals. It's possible that oral histories could go back 30k years.

Egalitarian: I saw that movie on the Sci Fi channel. It was pretty bad.

I put this movie on DVD. It was pretty bad.

Samsaran: Intelligent post. Most people don't realize that there has only been one successful Eugenics program in the history of the world. They don't realize it because it is politically incorrect to talk about it. In order for selective breeding to work it must be carried out over several generations. Hitler only had one generation. The Eugenics movement in the U.S. and Europe never even had a single generation.

The successful one? Black slavery. Slaves were bred for 400 years for size, strength and docility.

hmm...tastes like 'flamewar'.

/came for the They Might Be Giants references
//is so far disappointed

Episode 3 was the best of the new trilogy.

Samsaran:

The successful one? Black slavery. Slaves were bred for 400 years for size, strength and docility.


Agrees

FTA: Are Bibles 'giants' set for return?

NO.

They'd have to be here before to return. The only real giants in history were poor people with pituitary gland tumors.

Samsaran: Most people don't realize that there has only been one successful Eugenics program in the history of the world. They don't realize it because it is politically incorrect to talk about it. In order for selective breeding to work it must be carried out over several generations. Hitler only had one generation. The Eugenics movement in the U.S. and Europe never even had a single generation.

The successful one? Black slavery. Slaves were bred for 400 years for size, strength and docility.



So if we can organize selective breeding at the federal level, we can weed out people like you.

Suddenly, a eugenics program doesn't seem like such a bad idea.

And for the basic idiocy of your post - if that 'program' (as if it was centrally organized) was successful, then how do small, weak or violent African-Americans still exist?

There is a kernel of truth to what you wrote - slave owners did want the slaves' offspring to be good workers - but, again it was not an organized 'program.'

/WTF is with people's profiles lately?
//the amusingly egocentric ones are being edited mercilessly
///a newbie would have to work to find out who the douchebags are

Not a big 'rasslin fan but come on people. It hasn't been the WWF for years, it's the WWE. It's all about the Entertainment.

/jeez

Is there anyone I can say "It's called the WWE now!" without revealing the fact that I'm a huge fan?

~L

DarkScarab: Not a big 'rasslin fan but come on people. It hasn't been the WWF for years, it's the WWE. It's all about the Entertainment.

/jeez

Goddamnit, if I had been FOUR seconds faster...