As compared to Obama's whiney 'Hold on, hold on, hold on, come on guys..."

Hahahah, that was the best feel-good laugh I got all day. God bless him.

That is exactly how that sort of thing should be handled.

Not a Reagan fan, but even I'll admit that was awesome.

Caucasian-American, please.

Reagan was a failure, but that was pretty funny in a "grumpy, pissed-off" sort of way.

inconnu: As compared to Obama's whiney 'Hold on, hold on, hold on, come on guys..."

And then he answered those folks.

Why was he called "the great communicator"?

I don't understand that and the republican/fark independent fellating of him.

strathcona: Why was he called "the great communicator"?

I don't understand that and the republican/fark independent fellating of him.

Awwww Shut Up!

Reagan was awesome.

strathcona: Why was he called "the great communicator"?

I don't understand that and the republican/fark independent fellating of him.

They loved him because he was the biggest celebrity in the world.

... wait, where have I heard that before?

IronTom: Hahahah, that was the best feel-good laugh I got all day. God bless him.

Amen. Classic.

Isn't that Senator McCain's campaign slogan (check that, that has been every republican's slogan since Reagan).

It is easy to digest and totally vapid. The subtle point is "We know better than you because we are adults, so close mouth and keep your opinions to yourself".

Submitted before I added this--"Children should be seen, not heard."

strathcona: I don't understand that and the republican/fark independent fellating of him.

Because he's a republican. End of story.

It makes the "Obama is a messiah" comments all the more hilarious.

bulldg4life: strathcona: I don't understand that and the republican/fark independent fellating of him.

Because he's a republican. End of story.

It makes the "Obama is a messiah" comments all the more hilarious.

Hah! Yes it does.

The Onanist: Reagan was a failure,

funny stuff

PlagiarizeMe: funny stuff

He did nothing of note. Reagan did not kill the Soviet Union it was already dying, and had been for years. Hell, Reagan's policies are at the very core of our current economic crisis. Reagan was a waste.

inconnu: As compared to Obama's whiney 'Hold on, hold on, hold on, come on guys..."

Whiny? WTF are you smoking? Seriously?

Shut that heckler right up!

Very nice.

Reagan was nothing without his teleprompter.

/jk
//I really meant 3x5 cards

Brettster808: Reagan was nothing without his teleprompter.

/jk
//I really meant 3x5 cardsstone tablets.

FTFY

I just wish Ronald Reagan could be president forever.

Atillathepun: inconnu: As compared to Obama's whiney 'Hold on, hold on, hold on, come on guys..."

Whiny? WTF are you smoking? Seriously?

I'm not trying to turn this into a Obama bashing thread. There are plenty of those around here. But let's just be objective.

You can't be serious...Any impartial person watching the Obama video would have to admit he came off like a particularly nasal Steve Urkel. 'Hold on, hold on, hold on, now, let me speak you young people, come, come on you guys'. That's practically a direct quote.

He didn't regain his cool until his campaign staff and secret service escorted them from the building.

In short, Ronald Reagan displayed confidence. Obama acted more like a flustered professor.

GAT_00: He did nothing of note. Reagan did not kill the Soviet Union it was already dying, and had been for years. Hell, Reagan's policies are at the very core of our current economic crisis. Reagan was a waste.

For good or for ill, Reagan did a lot of stuff. For example, you say that Reagan was responsible for our current economic crisis.

It's a fair cop, but you have to admit that farking the economy up for years to come is not ``nothing of note.''

GAT_00: PlagiarizeMe: funny stuff

He did nothing of note. Reagan did not kill the Soviet Union it was already dying, and had been for years. Hell, Reagan's policies are at the very core of our current economic crisis. Reagan was a waste.

You're a fool. In 1980, the Soviet Union was at the top of its game compared to us. America was in the pits following the 70s. They certainly felt confident enough to invade Afghanistan.

inconnu: Atillathepun: inconnu: As compared to Obama's whiney 'Hold on, hold on, hold on, come on guys..."

Whiny? WTF are you smoking? Seriously?

I'm not trying to turn this into a Obama bashing thread. There are plenty of those around here. But let's just be objective.

You can't be serious...Any impartial person watching the Obama video would have to admit he came off like a particularly nasal Steve Urkel. 'Hold on, hold on, hold on, now, let me speak you young people, come, come on you guys'. That's practically a direct quote.

He didn't regain his cool until his campaign staff and secret service escorted them from the building.

Really? I mean. . .really? Comparing Obama to Urkel?

Somehow, call me crazy, I don't think you're all that impartial.

Atillathepun: inconnu: Atillathepun: inconnu: As compared to Obama's whiney 'Hold on, hold on, hold on, come on guys..."

Whiny? WTF are you smoking? Seriously?

I'm not trying to turn this into a Obama bashing thread. There are plenty of those around here. But let's just be objective.

You can't be serious...Any impartial person watching the Obama video would have to admit he came off like a particularly nasal Steve Urkel. 'Hold on, hold on, hold on, now, let me speak you young people, come, come on you guys'. That's practically a direct quote.

He didn't regain his cool until his campaign staff and secret service escorted them from the building.

Really? I mean. . .really? Comparing Obama to Urkel?

Somehow, call me crazy, I don't think you're all that impartial.

You've seen the Obama video, yes?

inconnu: You're a fool. In 1980, the Soviet Union was at the top of its game compared to us. America was in the pits following the 70s. They certainly felt confident enough to invade Afghanistan.

You make it sound as if Afghanistan was a tough nut to crack before we funneled a half billion dollars in aid and inadvertantly built up the Taliban.

"In what respect, hecklers?"

Quasar: inconnu: You're a fool. In 1980, the Soviet Union was at the top of its game compared to us. America was in the pits following the 70s. They certainly felt confident enough to invade Afghanistan.

You make it sound as if Afghanistan was a tough nut to crack before we funneled a half billion dollars in aid and inadvertantly built up the Taliban.

What I am saying is that contrary to the original poster, that the Soviet Union was certainly not already 'dying' in 1980. If anything, it was crowing over American weakness. I.E, the fall of Vietnam, Watergate, the Iran Hostage Crisis, the insane fuel costs, the Olympics being boycotted, etc. The Warsaw Bloc looked practically ascendant until 1984.

inconnu: You've seen the Obama video, yes?

I'll admit to not being impartial, but I wouldn't compare Obama's response to Urkle, it was a weak response for sure, but how many times has he truly been heckled in this fashion?

---Warning: Biased Opinion Forthcoming---

Actually, I'm fairly certain that infringing upon a speakers first amendment rights by attempting to shout them out when they attempt to speak, has traditionally been a weapon of Liberals when Conservatives are trying to speak. I can understand why Obama would be flustered by experiencing this himself.

"Alright, I'm going to talk about it, but Americans are tired of us shouting at each other."
-J. McCain, Republican Convention 2008-

"Hold on, hold on, hold on, now, let me speak you young people, come, come on you guys"
-B. Obama, Stump Speech 2008-

inconnu: You can't be serious...Any impartial person watching the Obama video would have to admit he came off like a particularly nasal Steve Urkel. 'Hold on, hold on, hold on, now, let me speak you young people, come, come on you guys'. That's practically a direct quote.

You can't be serious? Really?

Wow. You have to be a seriously partial to think patience is somehow whiny.

Comparing Obama to Urkle was excessive. Yet he seemed very much the flustered professor, even right down to the 'let's get back to work' comment after the hall monitors Secret Service escorted them from the room. You could also tell he was visibly disturbed while trying to ignore them.

Sadly, as with the case of Atillathepun , suggesting the Obama might have had a less than cool moment, is akin to claiming that Jesus Christ contradicted himself.

The Soviet Union ate itself. Go read Armageddon Averted. A stuffed dummy could have "killed" the Soviet Union like Reagan did. If you want to give someone credit, his name is Gorbachev and he is kind of hard to miss.

RemyDuron: The Soviet Union ate itself. Go read Armageddon Averted. A stuffed dummy could have "killed" the Soviet Union like Reagan did. If you want to give someone credit, his name is Gorbachev and he is kind of hard to miss.

It takes two to tango ya know. We forced them into an arms race that certainly tipped them over the edge and helped the collapse. If you look at all the summits, it was Reagan *and* Gorbachev working together that finally caused it to implode. Reagan held firm and whether or not you want to laugh about SDI, the rumor and possibility of it was enough to bring them to the table.

The troubling thing today is that Russia has increased it's defense spending by about 50%, attempting to nab Canada's North Pole resources etc...

CanisNoir: ---Warning: Biased Ignorant Opinion Forthcoming---

Actually, I'm fairly certain that infringing upon a speakers first amendment rights by attempting to shout them out when they attempt to speak, has traditionally been a weapon of Liberals when Conservatives are trying to speak. I can understand why Obama would be flustered by experiencing this himself.

The first amendment protects your free speech against the government. Someone shouting you down is not a violation of your first amendment rights. This might honestly be one of the dumbest things I've ever read on Fark.

Also, this is not the first time that Obama has been been heckled, so no, you can't has the conservative victim card. Not yours.

inconnu: Comparing Obama to Urkle was excessive. Yet he seemed very much the flustered professor, even right down to the 'let's get back to work' comment after the hall monitors Secret Service escorted them from the room. You could also tell he was visibly disturbed while trying to ignore them.

Sadly, as with the case of Atillathepun , suggesting the Obama might have had a less than cool moment, is akin to claiming that Jesus Christ contradicted himself.

Heaven forbid that somebody come off as a professor instead of a short-tempered redneck who won't tolerate dissent.

IMO Obama handled it better - a politician ought to be willing to talk to those with opposing views and not just telle them to shut up.

I am no politician, so: inconnu, shut up! I don't care if you are subby, your messiah died ages ago.

Conservatives would prefer candidates that simply shoot at any and all unruly blacks.

DeRosso

IMO Obama handled it better - a politician ought to be willing to talk to those with opposing views and not just telle them to shut up.

Wait, weren't they kicked out?

rpl: DeRosso

IMO Obama handled it better - a politician ought to be willing to talk to those with opposing views and not just telle them to shut up.

Wait, weren't they kicked out?

Not by Obama - he doesn't control the secret service

Tough vs Willing to be patient? I think in this time and age, I'd vote for the latter....until those damn ruskies get uppity in Venezuela/Cuba some more.

DeRosso

rpl: DeRosso

IMO Obama handled it better - a politician ought to be willing to talk to those with opposing views and not just telle them to shut up.

Wait, weren't they kicked out?

Not by Obama - he doesn't control the secret service

So what you're saying is that your entire system is constructed in a manner that would not allow for dissenters to directly confront a candidate, whether Kang or Kodos?

DeRosso: rpl: DeRosso

IMO Obama handled it better - a politician ought to be willing to talk to those with opposing views and not just telle them to shut up.

Wait, weren't they kicked out?

Not by Obama - he doesn't control the secret service

How about with a "No, let them stay"?

inconnu: Comparing Obama to Urkle was excessive. Yet he seemed very much the flustered professor, even right down to the 'let's get back to work' comment after the hall monitors Secret Service escorted them from the room. You could also tell he was visibly disturbed while trying to ignore them.

Sadly, as with the case of Atillathepun , suggesting the Obama might have had a less than cool moment, is akin to claiming that Jesus Christ contradicted himself.

Um, you're actually the one wandering in hyperbole-land. Comparing him to Urkel and then, when called on it, complaining of messiah worship? And YOU're the victim? You poor baby. So tell me, does EVERYONE consider you a douche or just people online?

Deadwing: DeRosso: rpl: DeRosso

IMO Obama handled it better - a politician ought to be willing to talk to those with opposing views and not just telle them to shut up.

Wait, weren't they kicked out?

Not by Obama - he doesn't control the secret service

How about with a "No, let them stay"?

He tried that. They continued to be disruptive and the Secret Service removed them

It's pretty obvious whose answer is more mature.

Anyway, the king of funny fights with hecklers will always be Helmut Kohl. Exhibit A: German chancellor fights protesters (new window).

rpl:
So what you're saying is that your entire system is constructed in a manner that would not allow for dissenters to directly confront a candidate, whether Kang or Kodos?

My system?! WTF you on about?

Deadwing:
How about with a "No, let them stay"?

What Atillathepun said + the SS probably isn't fond of spectacles if it draws attention away from a potetntial assasin. Diversionary tactics exist, you know

The Mavrick: CanisNoir: ---Warning: Biased Ignorant Opinion Forthcoming---

Actually, I'm fairly certain that infringing upon a speakers first amendment rights by attempting to shout them out when they attempt to speak, has traditionally been a weapon of Liberals when Conservatives are trying to speak. I can understand why Obama would be flustered by experiencing this himself.

The first amendment protects your free speech against the government. Someone shouting you down is not a violation of your first amendment rights. This might honestly be one of the dumbest things I've ever read on Fark.


Hmm, two different words there. Now the first amendment garuntee's the right to free speech, not the freedom to actually be heard, you are correct. However, given the number of times I've heard squealing from the left regarding this matter, I'd say I was quite within bounds using that type of language.

Hardly ignorant, but then again this is Fark and assumptions are par for the course.

/Regarding Dumbest thing on Fark, you obviously missed the "Before we can get Barack Obama, we need to deserve Barack Obama" comment from one starry eyed disciple when McCain overtook him in the Polls.