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(Breitbart.com) Stupid Remember when McCain claimed Frank Raines was an Obama adviser? Turns out it was a lie. Bonus: Raines had told McCain himself he wasn't advising Obama   (breitbart.com) divider line 53
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Bill Frist 2008-09-19 04:30:48 PM  
McCain is a Rove cyborg. Pass it on

 
McStinky 2008-09-19 04:33:16 PM  
John can't be expected to remember anything.

He's farking old as dirt.

 
bronyaur1 [TotalFark] 2008-09-19 04:42:01 PM  
Do we want ANOTHER pathological liar like Bill Clinton in the White House?

 
Bill Frist 2008-09-19 04:42:58 PM  
bronyaur1: Do we want ANOTHER pathological liar like Bill Clinton in the White House?

Clinton only lied about himself though, not his opponents, his friends, US allies and everyhting else in the world like McCain does.

 
Solid State Vittles 2008-09-19 05:00:42 PM  
bronyaur1: Do we want ANOTHER pathological liar like Bill Clinton in the White House?

If it were constitutionally possibly to vote for him over both McCain and Obama, I'd do it in a New York second. I don't give a shiat about jizz stains on intern's blue dresses.

Oh, and the lack of accountability on ads like this pisses me off to no end. Unreal.

 
Mordant [TotalFark] 2008-09-19 05:05:04 PM  
I assume Fark "conservatives" will continue to make reference to this anyway. They aren't required to be even remotely honest, right ?

 
pacified 2008-09-19 05:33:17 PM  
The liar McCain lying! I don't believe it! It's not like he lies all the time... oh wait. John McCain is just lying and lying and lying. It's about all he does.

 
BiffDangler 2008-09-19 05:33:55 PM  
Tell it to the Washington Post who has twice reported that Raines was a Obama advisor and hasn't corrected it yet.

 
Bloody William 2008-09-19 05:34:00 PM  
Isn't this the fourth or fifth farking Raimes thread greenlit today, all of which involving some right-wing douchebags biatch about Obama and toss up the same chart about contributions from FRE/FNM employees, and then to be smacked down painfully with the same points that Raimes doesn't work for Obama, and the same charts that show that McCain gets far more from the FRE/FNM higher-ups than Obama ever did?

 
captain_heroic44 2008-09-19 05:34:16 PM  
John McCain decided he'd rather lose his integrity than lose an election. He's running the sleaziest campaign in modern history. A dishonorable, negative campaign that appeals to dishonorable, negative people.

 
Trainspotr 2008-09-19 05:34:31 PM  
I'm beginning to think he doesn't really think we're friends.

 
rppp01a 2008-09-19 05:35:07 PM  
CNN reported this 'link' as did Fox News. Think they'll retract?

 
Zeppelininthesky [TotalFark] 2008-09-19 05:35:24 PM  
POW POW POW

 
MonkeyButler 2008-09-19 05:35:50 PM  
Washington Post
7/16/08: "In the four years since he stepped down as Fannie Mae's chief executive under the shadow of a $6.3 billion accounting scandal, Franklin D. Raines has been quietly constructing a new life for himself. He has shaved eight points off his golf handicap, taken a corner office in Steve Case's D.C. conglomeration of finance, entertainment and health-care companies and more recently, taken calls from Barack Obama's presidential campaign seeking his advice on mortgage and housing policy matters."

8/28/08: "In the current crisis, their biggest backers have been Democrats such as Senate Banking Committee Chairman Christopher J. Dodd (Conn.) and House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (Mass.). Two members of Mr. Obama's political circle, James A. Johnson and Franklin D. Raines, are former chief executives of Fannie Mae."

 
djrez4 2008-09-19 05:35:52 PM  
Modifying the meme:

Noun, verb, lie, POW.

 
LessO2 2008-09-19 05:36:28 PM  
BiffDangler: Tell it to the Washington Post who has twice reported that Raines was a Obama advisor and hasn't corrected it yet.

B-b-b-b-b-but Fark Moderates and Republicans told me the Washington Post is a Liberal rag.

 
Jurodan 2008-09-19 05:36:45 PM  
McCain... LIED?!?! GASP! I don't believe it!

/Duh.

 
Wight Power [TotalFark] 2008-09-19 05:38:28 PM  
i223.photobucket.com

i223.photobucket.com

 
oldtuck 2008-09-19 05:39:00 PM  
So was the Washington Post lying then? Or is the Obama campaign lying now?

I don't know. But I trust the WaPo more than I do the Obama campaign.

 
sckonkh 2008-09-19 05:40:51 PM  
Ronald Reagan Approves

 
yuckapoo 2008-09-19 05:41:07 PM  
MLF (new window)

 
gonepostal 2008-09-19 05:41:36 PM  
i wish i could get a job that involved cooking the books at a quasi-governmental agency, get a $90 million "bonus" and have my sleazy friends protect me. I hope in a few years he becomes the wet dream of some ignorant smelly hairy ex-drug dealer from the inner city locked up in some unventilated prison in the south. mmmmm good times

 
lexslamman 2008-09-19 05:42:19 PM  
A haiku for my fellow farkers:

Senator McCain
Won't admit to selling out
That hollow old man

 
neddddavis 2008-09-19 05:42:36 PM  
Atleast, Beaver's For McCain, Wally an Obama man, but Eddie Haskell likes Bristol's tits:

 
impaler [TotalFark] 2008-09-19 05:43:41 PM  
Mordant: I assume Fark "conservatives" will continue to make reference to this anyway. They aren't required to be even remotely honest, right ?

There are still ads saying Palin stopped the Bridge to Nowhere.

No shame.

 
Vash The Stampede 2008-09-19 05:44:15 PM  
www.doublespeakshow.com

 
rosebud_the_sled 2008-09-19 05:44:31 PM  
Solid State Vittles: If it were constitutionally possibly to vote for him over both McCain and Obama, I'd do it in a New York second. I don't give a shiat about jizz stains on intern's blue dresses.

One of my major issues with Clinton was his lack of taste and the fact that he just didn't man up about the whole thing. His wife knew, his assistants knew, the world knew - what was the big deal.

The other issue is that he had such poor taste. It is really sad that a person who occupies one of the most powerful positions in the world can not get some high-class tail. He always gravitated to trailer trash. Sad, very sad.

 
AdolfOliverPanties [TotalFark] 2008-09-19 05:44:31 PM  
Obama and Biden need to point out EACH ONE of these lies in commercials, in speeches and in the debates.

Call them lies. Do not call them distortions, half-truths or anything that soft-sells the concept of what McCain is doing.

John McCain is a liar.

 
Hobodeluxe [TotalFark] 2008-09-19 05:45:27 PM  
mccainliesfund.org

 
neddddavis 2008-09-19 05:48:14 PM  
McLamebrain believes all Sambos in Washington must be advising each other, on where to get the best white pussy if nothing else!

 
Bag of Hammers [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-09-19 05:48:19 PM  
B-B-B-But librul meedeeya! McCain can't get his message out!!

 
pregerstheHobo 2008-09-19 05:50:43 PM  
Wow. He lied again. Color me surprised.

 
DamnYankees [TotalFark] 2008-09-19 05:51:22 PM  
John McCain lied? I refuse to believe it.

 
HomoHabilis 2008-09-19 05:51:51 PM  
djrez4: Modifying the meme:

Noun, verb, lie, POW.



Thanks for the inspiration.

img231.imageshack.us

 
FireBreathingLiberal [TotalFark] 2008-09-19 06:00:30 PM  
A partial list of McLies:

Signing of the GI Bill: Now enthusiastically for it... after it passed. Previously attacked the Webb Bill. Didn't even bother to vote on it.
http://bravenewfilms.org/...

Campaign reform: On political reform, McCain last January opposed a grassroots lobbying bill he once supported. In 2006, the "New York Sun" reported that his presidential ambitions led McCain to reverse his support of a campaign financial bill called McCain/Feingold.
http://www.nysun.com/...

Alien Minors Act/Immigration: Last October he said he would vote against the development, relief and education for Alien Miners Act that he co-sponsored, and then said he would vote against an immigration bill that he introduced.
http://www.youtube.com/...

Gay Marriage: In 2006, he said on "HARDBALL," quote, I think that gay marriage should be allowed. Then after the commercial break he added, I do not believe that gay marriages should be legal.
http://www.youtube.com/...

Abortion: On abortion, 1999, publicly supporting Roe v. Wade, privately opposing it in a letter to the National Right to Life Committee. In the 2000 debates, he would change the GOP platform to permit exceptions for rape, incest, the life of the mother. May 2007, "flipped", ABCNews.com reported.
http://abcnews.go.com/...

Nuclear Waste: No Storing Nuclear waste at Yucca mountain earlier..now flipped
http://www.lasvegassun.com/...

Negotiating with Kim Jong-Il: Negotiating with Kim Jong-Il not acceptable until President Bush did it last week.
http://bondibox.newsvine.com/...

Negotiating with Cuba/Castro: With Fidel Castro acceptable in 2000, not 2008.
http://vids.myspace.com/...

Negotiating with Hamas/Terrorists: ...with terrorists appropriate when Colin Powell went to Syria and in 2006 when McCain said sooner or later we'll talk to Hamas, but not appropriate now re: Obama's willingness to use diplomacy.
http://bondibox.newsvine.com/...

Pakistan: Unilateral action against suspected terrorists in Pakistan; "Confused leadership" when Obama suggested it, not when Bush did it.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/...

Warrantless Wire-taps: Six months ago, presidents had to obey the law, not anymore.
http://www.nytimes.com/...

Torture: Torture detainees, no way, except for the CIA. Hold them indefinitely, wrong in 2003, the right move in 2008.
http://www.youtube.com/...

Iraq War: The Iraq war, the right course 2004, stay the course 2005. Today, McCain has always been a Rumsfeld critic.
http://thinkprogress.org/...

Tax Cuts: In 2001, he could not in good conscious support them. Now he can.
http://www.youtube.com/...

Estate Tax: 2006, "I agree with President Roosevelt who created it". In 2008, "most unfair".
http://www.crooksandliars.com/...

Privatizing Social Security: This month not for privatizing Social Security, never has been. In 2004, he "didn't see how benefits will last without it".
http://www.youtube.com/...

Balanced Budget: In February, promised a balanced budget in four years by April, make that eight years.
http://www.perrspectives.com/...

Windfall Profits Tax: In May, glad to look at the windfall profits tax. By June, that was Jimmy Carter's big idea.
http://flipfloptracker.blogspot.com/...

Offshore Drilling: In 2000, no new off shore drilling. Last month, it would take years to develop. This month, very helpful in the short term.
http://thinkprogress.org/...

Coyotes..Bush Big Time Fund Raisers: The Bush fund-raisers McCain called coyotes breaking the law in 2000. By 2006, they were co-chairing McCain fund-raisers.
http://abcnews.go.com/...

"Agents of Intolerance": Buddy Jerry Falwell...an "agent of intolerance in 2000". Kissed Falwell's ass in 2007... The Reverend Hagee and Parsley in, then out this year alone.
http://www.youtube.com/...

Martin Luther King Holiday: In 1983, opposed Martin Luther King Day. Today, all for it.
http://www.boston.com/...

Confederate Flag: In 2000, defended South Carolina's confederate flag as a symbol of heritage. Two years later, McCain calling it, quote, an act of political cowardice not to say the flag should come down. Quote, "everybody said, look out. You can't win in South Carolina if you say that."
http://www.youtube.com/...

Evolution in Public Schools: In 2005, McCain said alternatives to evolution should be taught in school. "Evolving" the opposite position he had taken in 2000.
http://thinkprogress.org/...

Restoring the Everglades: On June 5, John McCain traveled to the Everglades to win over Floridians and environmentally-minded voters. There he proclaimed, "I am in favor of doing whatever's necessary to save the Everglades." Sadly, as ThinkProgress documented, McCain not only opposed $2 billion in funding for the restoration of the Everglades national park, he backed President Bush's veto of the legislation in 2007. "I believe," he said, "that we should be passing a bill that will authorize legitimate, needed projects without sacrificing fiscal responsibility."
http://www.crooksandliars.com/...

Swiftboating: McCain's sudden embrace of Swiftboating --- which today is synonymous with a concerted effort to lie about an opponent's history --- is all the more deplorable because he has hired retired Col. George "Bud" Day, a proud member of the group that Swiftboated Kerry --- and someone McCain once described as having "tunnel vision" --- to lead what McCain is calling his "Truth Squad."
http://digg.com/...

GITMO/Habeus Corpus:Despite John McCain's outrage last week that the Supreme Court ordered Gitmo detainees know why they were being held, or released -- Political Base has stumbled upon a McCain appearance on Meet the Press in 2005 where he argued they deserved trials, going so far as to say "if it means releasing some of them, you'll have to release them." Shameless.
http://www.politicalbase.com/...

Divestment from South Africa: During his June 2 speech to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), John McCain called for the international community to target Iran for the kind of worldwide sanctions regime applied to apartheid-era South Africa. Unfortunately, McCain's lobbyist-advisers Charlie Black and Rick Davis each represented firms doing business with Tehran. Even more unfortunate, John McCain was frequently not among those offering "moral clarity and conviction" in backing "a divestment campaign against South Africa, helping to rid that nation of the evil of apartheid."
http://thinkprogress.org/...

Opposing Hurricane Katrina Investigations: During a June 4th town hall meeting in Baton Rouge, John McCain answered a reporter's question regarding Hurricane Katrina and the failure of the New Orleans levees by announcing:

"I've supported every investigation and ways of finding out what caused the tragedy. I've been here to New Orleans. I've met with people on the ground."

As it turns out, not so much. McCain's revisionist history neglects to mention that in 2005 and 2006 he twice voted against a commission to study the government's response to Katrina. He also opposed three separate emergency funding measures providing relief to Katrina victims, including the extension of five months of Medicaid benefits. And as ThinkProgress pointed out, "until traveling there one month ago, McCain had made just one public tour of New Orleans since Hurricane Katrina touched down in August 2005."
http://thinkprogress.org/...

McCain On His Economic Abilities: "I have not. I have not. Actually, I have not." "I said that I am stronger on national security issues because of all the time I spent in the military and others. I am very strong on the economy. I understand it. I have a lot more experience than my opponent."

-- Sen. John McCain, in an interview on ABC News, when asked why he "admitted that you're not exactly an expert when it comes to the economy."

However, NBC News compiles past McCain quotes in which he said "The issue of economics is not something I've understood as well as I should" or "I'm going to be honest: I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues. I still need to be educated."
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/...

On Criticizing Obama While "Overseas": Traveling in Colombia, he told reporters that he wouldn't criticize Obama while he was overseas, but on the plane, he blasted Obama's opposition to the proposed Colombia free trade...
http://blogs.abcnews.com/...

UPDATES from KOSsacks:

Temperment and Temper: "My temper has often been both a matter of public speculation and personal concern," he wrote in a 2002 memoir. "I have a temper, to state the obvious, which I have tried to control with varying degrees of success because it does not always serve my interest or the public's." Not true and not under control, according to many of those on the "W"rong side of McCain's famous temper.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

Drilling For Oil and Automobile Efficiency: "Last week, Senator McCain reversed himself and said we need to drill more. Today, he has reversed years of failing to support more efficient cars, new energy technologies and green jobs.
http://www.speaker.gov/...

Offshore Drilling: Two weeks ago, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) offered "a bit of a capitulation to the oil companies" by announcing that he would end the federal ban on offshore oil drilling. Not only is McCain's move a break with environmental activist, but it is also "a reversal of the position he took in his 2000 presidential campaign.
http://thinkprogress.org/...

Payroll Taxes: "When he was asked in 2005 whether he could see himself lifting the cap on the payroll tax, (McCain) said, 'I could.' Two years later, during a May 13, 2007, appearance on "Meet the Press," Russert asked McCain if he was still open to lifting the Social Security tax cap as part of a compromise. "Am I opposed to tax increases?" said McCain. "Yes. But we've got to sit down together and figure out what our options are, and tough decisions have to be made, Republicans and Democrats. And I know how to do that." Asked about the 2005 remark, a McCain spokesman acknowledged the tension with his current position while arguing that the Arizona senator's criticism of his Democratic rival is still valid because McCain has spoken out against higher Social Security taxes as a 2008 White House hopeful.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/...

Ethics Reform and Abramoff: On the stump, Sen. John McCain often cites his work tackling the excesses of disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff as evidence of his sturdy ethical compass. A little-known document, however, shows that McCain may have taken steps to protect his Republican colleagues from the scope of his investigation.

 
BMulligan 2008-09-19 06:05:28 PM  
Howard Fineman was on my teevee last night, stating categorically that Raines was absolutely not an adviser to Obama.

 
FlashHarry [TotalFark] 2008-09-19 06:08:01 PM  
another lie from a dishonorable man. there's news in that?

 
DasRaven 2008-09-19 06:13:20 PM  
Lying McCain is Lying?

/Shock
//Awe
///Fake Outrage

 
SilentStrider [TotalFark] 2008-09-19 06:20:52 PM  
nice.

 
chipspastic 2008-09-19 06:45:55 PM  
Can I get an "Oh Snap"?

 
Rockdrummer 2008-09-19 06:48:08 PM  
Oh bullshiat. The Wshington Post reported Raines was an Obama advisor, McCain repeated the story. Today the Washington Post told McCain, you shouldn't believe us."

Those libs, calling themselves liars when it justifies the means. Any credibility left? Nope.

 
lexslamman 2008-09-19 07:01:14 PM  
Rockdrummer: Oh bullshiat. The Wshington Post reported Raines was an Obama advisor, McCain repeated the story. Today the Washington Post told McCain, you shouldn't believe us."

Those libs, calling themselves liars when it justifies the means. Any credibility left? Nope.


At least there is one man who still has the credibility to lead this country ---

BARACK OBAMA

(what, did you think I was going to say Ron Paul? Do I really look insane?)

 
propasaurus [TotalFark] 2008-09-19 07:01:39 PM  
Rockdrummer: Oh bullshiat. The Wshington Post reported Raines was an Obama advisor, McCain repeated the story. Today the Washington Post told McCain, you shouldn't believe us."

Those libs, calling themselves liars when it justifies the means. Any credibility left? Nope.


Obama's campaign says Raines is not an Obama adviser and that McCain's campaign knows it because Raines said so in an e-mail earlier this week to Carly Fiorina, a top McCain adviser. Obama's campaign provided The Associated Press with a copy of the e-mail.

 
MilesTeg 2008-09-19 07:32:28 PM  
Original Wapo article Link (new window)

Funny how when the truth all of the sudden comes back to bite them they scramble to cover it up.

 
Bladel [TotalFark] 2008-09-19 08:11:12 PM  
submitter: Remember when McCain claimed Frank Raines was an Obama adviser? Turns out it was a lie. Bonus: Raines had told McCain himself he wasn't advising Obam

Remember it? You mean from the ad that McCain ran way back in...this afternoon?


/Kee-rist, the man is lying faster than TV can keep up....

 
zerkalo 2008-09-19 08:22:25 PM  
The VC must have beat the integrity right the hell out of McCain

 
zerkalo 2008-09-19 08:25:24 PM  
zerkalo: The VC North Vietnamese must have beat the integrity right the hell out of McCain

FTFM

 
unlikely [TotalFark] 2008-09-19 08:46:02 PM  
Not a bookmark on a thread I want to read later. Nope.

 
teto85 [TotalFark] 2008-09-19 09:46:19 PM  
Dr. Rachel said it best two years ago on the radio.

"They lie. Republicans lie."

 
Snowflake Tubbybottom 2008-09-19 11:04:56 PM  

 
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