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(St. Petersburg Times) Obvious Undecided voters agree: Sarah Palin is the best reason yet to vote Obama   (tampabay.com) divider line 117
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Insurance_EE_guy [TotalFark] 2008-09-19 12:18:44 PM  
*music notes*

I saw my reflection in those snow covered hills...

LAAANDSLIDE

/*music notes*
(p)


This election is not even going to be close. 'murica isn't that dumb.

 
Rev.K [TotalFark] 2008-09-19 12:22:06 PM  
Insurance_EE_guy:
This election is not even going to be close. 'murica isn't that dumb.


I pray that you are right.

 
Demetrius [TotalFark] 2008-09-19 12:30:06 PM  
Insurance_EE_guy: 'murica isn't that dumb.

GWBush. Not once, but twice.

Sure you don't want to reconsider that statement?

 
the_pgoat [TotalFark] 2008-09-19 12:35:15 PM  
Denetrius: I hate to threadjack, but I just wanted to comment that you have the most gorgeous children! The pic of the little guy waiting for "MOMMY" with a sign at the airport is rad!

 
the_pgoat [TotalFark] 2008-09-19 12:36:34 PM  
I am a terrible typist. Excuse me, Demetrius

 
kronicfeld [TotalFark] 2008-09-19 12:46:40 PM  
the_pgoat: I just wanted to comment that you have the most gorgeous children!

Pervert.

 
the_pgoat [TotalFark] 2008-09-19 12:49:03 PM  
kronicfeld: You know me so well.

 
RevLovejoy 2008-09-19 02:44:45 PM  
Shhhh..don't tell anyone, but the bloom is falling off the Palin rose.

Odds she "steps down: before the first debate?

 
Flying Undead Sheep 2008-09-19 02:44:50 PM  
Headline is wishful thinking. Not going to happen.

 
rcantley 2008-09-19 02:45:27 PM  
Demetrius: GWBush. Not once, but twice.

Sure you don't want to reconsider that statement?


To be fair, that was against Gorebot and Gorebot 2.0.

At least there's a decent choice this time instead of just Not-Bush...

 
how is babby formed 2008-09-19 02:45:40 PM  
Insurance_EE_guy: This election is not even going to be close. 'murica isn't that dumb.

www.cybersalt.org

I wish I could believe that.

/hotlinked because that's how Americans roll!

 
rppp01a 2008-09-19 02:46:47 PM  
Dear Gov Palin-

I have a great idea. Why not suggest to the american people that we need a web site that keeps track of all the transactions being performed by the government? You know, sorta like an an open checkbook kind of site. That'd get them pumped up.

Sincerely,

Rick Davis.

 
Dr.Zom 2008-09-19 02:46:49 PM  
Well, I guess the Fark Independents were right about one thing - some people are terrified of her.

 
whidbey [TotalFark] 2008-09-19 02:46:52 PM  
She could probably turn it down a couple of notches.

 
neddddavis 2008-09-19 02:46:54 PM  
shiattttt!

I'll have to vote for the Sambo out of fear about the Carabou biatch.

Shiattttt!

 
Satyagraha 2008-09-19 02:47:20 PM  
www.dph.com

Come on boys...you know you want me


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/Anybody seen my lip shtick?

 
Mrbogey 2008-09-19 02:48:59 PM  
The St. Petersburg Times may want to hire a statistician so they'll know how polling works. It reminds me of how Krugman "proved" Canadians hate their healthcare system the other day.

Oh and this is great....

"You're somebody's mom and what are you going to do, say, 'Excuse me, country, hold on?' ... She's preaching that she's this mom of the year and taking that poor little baby all over everywhere. And, you know, what she's doing to her 17-year-old daughter is just appalling.' Lehr said she's bothered by the way Palin's pregnant daughter has been brought into the national spotlight.

And Obama supporters say McCain supporters must be idiots.

 
8-bit-nintendo 2008-09-19 02:50:05 PM  
[I posted this in another thread... but it is too good to pass up]

When asked how she would help keep any new domestic oil produced in the United States, Palin gave a less-than-well-articulated non-answer to a question posed by the audience:

"Oil and coal? Of course, it's a fungible commodity and they don't flag, you know the molecules, where it's going and where it's not. But in the sense of the Congress today, they know that there are very, very hungry domestic markets that need that oil first," Palin said. "So I believe that what Congress is going to do also is not to allow the export bans to such a degree that it's Americans that get stuck to holding the bag without the energy source that is produced here, pumped here. It's got to flow into our domestic markets first."


-- Yep, she is a winner

/wonder if she thinks people in this country (and the Iraq) don't have maps?

 
Confabulat [TotalFark] 2008-09-19 02:51:05 PM  
Mrbogey: The St. Petersburg Times may want to hire a statistician so they'll know how polling works

It's not a poll. It's well-explained in the article.

Did it upset you or something?

 
Headso 2008-09-19 02:51:24 PM  
Palin is the biggest r-tard since ... uh ... george bush.

 
HighOnCraic 2008-09-19 02:51:30 PM  
This sounds like bad news . . . for Obama.

 
TheShavingofOccam123 [TotalFark] 2008-09-19 02:51:51 PM  
Rev.K: Insurance_EE_guy:
This election is not even going to be close. 'murica isn't that dumb.

I pray that you are right.


Remember, we reelected Bush. Anything could happen. Please dear God go out and vote.

 
Sweet Chin Music 2008-09-19 02:52:53 PM  
Satyagraha: Come on boys...you know you want me


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/Anybody seen my lip shtick?


I'd make her lips stick.

 
redmond24 2008-09-19 02:54:05 PM  
"Sarah, undecided voters are terrified of the thought of you being in the white house. How do you feel about that?"

"In what respect, Charlie?"

 
guilt by association 2008-09-19 02:54:08 PM  
Isn't she scaring Jewish voters away too?

 
Richard Pye 2008-09-19 02:54:13 PM  
Wow, this is really bad news...for Obama.

 
gilgigamesh 2008-09-19 02:54:16 PM  
Well duh.

Political wisdom dictates that you play to the base in the primaries when your own yahoos are watching, not at the convention when the whole world is watching.

That's why it's called wisdom. And that's why I've been saying all along McCain is a dumbass for ignoring it.

 
Mrbogey 2008-09-19 02:54:54 PM  
Confabulat: It's not a poll. It's well-explained in the article.

Did it upset you or something?


Well it's a newspaper so I'd figured they'd print it because they thought it would have merit. But if you insist that it's not meant to have any bearing on reality or actual polling then I'll have to accept your conclusion.

 
MooseMuffin 2008-09-19 02:55:08 PM  
While its great that most of these people in the article are voting for Obama, I can't help but notice that they all seem incredibly stupid.

 
SGRick 2008-09-19 02:55:35 PM  
To be fair, TFA quotes Floridians. I wouldn't use them as the deciding basis for a presidential election.

 
snarltron 2008-09-19 02:55:56 PM  
Palin, I think, is starting to tank the ticket in a way that most VPs don't, and it's because she undercuts the McCain "brand". McCain's most positive trait, in the eyes of voters, is not so much that he's a "maverick" as what that maverick tag implies - he'll go against his own party or anyone else to do what he believes is right. "Country First" and all that.

Palin as a VP pick tries to play up the "Maverick" image, but as her general unpreparedness and bumbling become more apparent, it looks more and more like the pick was a cynical, political ploy, rather than what's best for the country. The McCain campaign decided to play to the letter of "Maverick" rather than the spirit of it - they stressed making bold, outside-the-box decisions, but no one wants someone who makes those decisions for their own sake - they want a President who makes the safe, typical decision when that's smartest, but isn't afraid to buck conventional wisdom and political pressure when that's what's best.

Not to mention that McCain's age has people really thinking long and hard about what a Palin presidency might look like.

 
Wight Power [TotalFark] 2008-09-19 02:56:24 PM  
8-bit-nintendo: [I posted this in another thread... but it is too good to pass up]

When asked how she would help keep any new domestic oil produced in the United States, Palin gave a less-than-well-articulated non-answer to a question posed by the audience:

"Oil and coal? Of course, it's a fungible commodity and they don't flag, you know the molecules, where it's going and where it's not. But in the sense of the Congress today, they know that there are very, very hungry domestic markets that need that oil first," Palin said. "So I believe that what Congress is going to do also is not to allow the export bans to such a degree that it's Americans that get stuck to holding the bag without the energy source that is produced here, pumped here. It's got to flow into our domestic markets first."


-- Yep, she is a winner

/wonder if she thinks people in this country (and the Iraq) don't have maps?


You gotta post the video that goes with that. Text doesn't fully convey the insanity.

WTF is this shiat? (new window)

Thanks to shower_in_my_socks for linking that in a previous thread.

 
the_pgoat [TotalFark] 2008-09-19 02:56:42 PM  
SGRick: To be fair, TFA quotes Floridians. I wouldn't use them as the deciding basis for a presidential election.

Undecided voters could be very important in Florida.

 
DarnoKonrad 2008-09-19 02:57:10 PM  
img228c.imageshack.us

 
Confabulat [TotalFark] 2008-09-19 02:57:30 PM  
SGRick: To be fair, TFA quotes Floridians. I wouldn't use them as the deciding basis for a presidential election.

Ha!

 
BlippityBleep 2008-09-19 02:57:37 PM  
In what respekt, subby?

/runs hand seductively down leg

 
Observatory 2008-09-19 02:57:46 PM  

 
neddddavis 2008-09-19 02:58:04 PM  
What are the uptodate odds of Mclamebrain losing Arizoona and Alaska?

Jan 20 headline: Obama to Cancel Seward's Folly, Sells Alaska to Russia For $7 million

 
doxonrox99 2008-09-19 02:58:06 PM  
Mrbogey: The St. Petersburg Times may want to hire a statistician so they'll know how polling works.

You may want to hire a teacher so you'll know how reading comprehension works.

 
SGRick 2008-09-19 02:58:15 PM  
the_pgoat: SGRick: To be fair, TFA quotes Floridians. I wouldn't use them as the deciding basis for a presidential election.

Undecided voters could be very important in Florida.


Fair enough. Let me revise:

I wouldn't use don't trust them as the deciding basis for a presidential election.

 
Your Faith is Creepy [TotalFark] 2008-09-19 02:58:47 PM  
HighOnCraic: This sounds like bad news . . . for Obama.

Richard Pye: Wow, this is really bad news...for Obama.

You guys sound really concerned. And so original.

 
Cheery Pi 2008-09-19 03:00:22 PM  
I read the article and said, yep, thats me. I dont want to vote for either candidate, but will now be voting for Obama unless Palin resigns. She is scary. She is too far right. She is just as inexperienced as Obama, but at least Obama has Biden. And clearly, based on other fark articles, her addition to the republican ballot is not helping McCain, not swinging more votes their way. I wonder if she will resign citing her desire to be closer to her family. Isnt that the standard line?

 
DROxINxTHExWIND [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-09-19 03:00:25 PM  
snarltron: Palin, I think, is starting to tank the ticket in a way that most VPs don't, and it's because she undercuts the McCain "brand". McCain's most positive trait, in the eyes of voters, is not so much that he's a "maverick" as what that maverick tag implies - he'll go against his own party or anyone else to do what he believes is right. "Country First" and all that.

Palin as a VP pick tries to play up the "Maverick" image, but as her general unpreparedness and bumbling become more apparent, it looks more and more like the pick was a cynical, political ploy, rather than what's best for the country. The McCain campaign decided to play to the letter of "Maverick" rather than the spirit of it - they stressed making bold, outside-the-box decisions, but no one wants someone who makes those decisions for their own sake - they want a President who makes the safe, typical decision when that's smartest, but isn't afraid to buck conventional wisdom and political pressure when that's what's best.

Not to mention that McCain's age has people really thinking long and hard about what a Palin presidency might look like.

==================================

In other words, he went with the no-look, around the back, over-the-shoulder pass that sailed out of bounds instead of making the simple bounce pass.

 
Mrbogey 2008-09-19 03:01:06 PM  
doxonrox99: Mrbogey: The St. Petersburg Times may want to hire a statistician so they'll know how polling works.

You may want to hire a teacher so you'll know how reading comprehension works.


You're the guy who apparently doesn't understand selection bias. Hey, I hear McCain is down only 6 points in Illinois. Looks like Obama is sunk.

/stop being a retard

 
Ruby'sMamma 2008-09-19 03:02:39 PM  
RevLovejoy: Shhhh..don't tell anyone, but the bloom is falling off the Palin rose.

Odds she "steps down: before the first debate?


who will replace her if she does finally realize she is in WAAAYYYY over her purty lil' head?

 
DarnoKonrad 2008-09-19 03:02:44 PM  
I don't see now, nor did I during the convention, how any one could watch her speech and think, "Gee, this kind of deep seated vindictiveness and partisan asshatery is just what the nation needs."

 
Observatory 2008-09-19 03:03:12 PM  
PALIN TO DUMP McCAIN FROM GOP TICKET

By R J Shulman
VINCENNES, Indiana (PTSD News) - Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin announced today that she has asked top GOP officials to fire John McCain as the GOP presidential candidate. "He has served his country well," Palin told a cheering overflow crowd in this southwestern Indiana city, "but he is starting to drag down my numbers, so he'll have to go. To make sure he's gone," she said, "I'll offer a hundred dollars to the first person to shoot him and bring me his cut off right hand - just kidding. I don't need to see the hand, a faxed picture will do."

"If there is anyone who can get officials to fire someone she doesn't like, it's Sarah," said an unnamed Republican spokesperson. "This will be a good move for the GOP," said Charles L. Sonderheim of the Heritage Foundation, "Palin has been packing them in, while McCain can't fill a McDonalds."

Rules state that if the front runner is removed before the election, the vice presidential nominee become the presidential candidate. "We all know that God has anointed her to be president," said Reverend Ed Kalnin, Palin's former preacher, "so why delay the process, just like we shouldn't delay Armageddon."

"It'll be great opportunity to be your President," Palin told the Indiana crowd, "because while it has been fun to see Russia from my house, I just can't wait to see Russia from the cockpit of a plane as something nuclear is being dropped."

There has been no word on who would be tapped as Palin's vice presidential running mate. "We need to emphasize Sarah's qualifications to be president by picking someone who is a little less qualified than her, but charming, of course," said a top GOP spokesperson, "However this may take some time, although we have a lead on a pig with lipstick in Waterloo, Iowa that is dying to get off the farm."

 
Born to Die 2008-09-19 03:04:40 PM  
8-bit-nintendo: When asked how she would help keep any new domestic oil produced in the United States, Palin gave a less-than-well-articulated non-answer to a question posed by the audience:

"Oil and coal? Of course, it's a fungible commodity and they don't flag, you know the molecules Jesus particles, where it's going and where it's not. But in the sense of the Congress today, they know that there are very, very hungry domestic markets that need that oil first," Palin said. "So I believe that what Congress is going to do also is not to allow the export bans to such a degree that it's Americans that get stuck to holding the bag without the energy source that is produced here, pumped here. It's got to flow into our domestic markets first."


Why would someone who believes in a 6000-year-old universe accept the atomic theory of matter? Teach the controversy!

 
ZangTT 2008-09-19 03:04:43 PM  
"I'm truly offended by Palin,' said 37-year-old Republican Philinia Lehr of Largo, a full-time mother with a nursing degree who voted for George Bush in 2004

"The one thing that frightens me more than anything else are the ideologues. We've seen too many," said 80-year-old Air Force veteran Donn Spegal, a lifelong Republican from St. Petersburg

Independent voter Bill Chever, 56, another Air Force veteran from St. Petersburg, said he has voted Republican four times and Democrat three times in the last seven presidential races. He likes and trusts Obama but he's particularly bothered that the Palins are not cooperating in the "Troopergate" investigation into whether she fired the state police chief for not firing her former brother-in-law from the Alaska state police. "Here we go with Dick Cheney and his group that's not going to talk to anybody," Chever said. "She is Dick Cheney with a dress on."

"It's McCain's beliefs," said Annette Maakestad, 57, of St. Petersburg, explaining why she's shifting toward Obama. "I don't think he's changed or he's going to change his party that much. ... People who think that someone's going to get in there and make changes that are that dramatic, they're off their rocker."


This is Florida?
Guess I need to go out and get people moving over more!
If it can happen there, it can happen anywhere.

 
Jubeebee 2008-09-19 03:05:25 PM  
Insurance_EE_guy:
This election is not even going to be close. 'murica isn't that dumb.


AMERICA: Everyone said I was daft to elect George Bush to the Presidency, but I elected him all the same just to show them. The economy sank into the swamp.
So I elected another Bush. He sank the economy into the swamp.
So I elected Bush a third time. The economy burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp.
But this fourth time the economy will stay up! And that's what we'll get. Elect McCain and we'll have the strongest economy in all the world.

 
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