She really doesn't get it...

I don't think I'd be so quick to say that digs the hole deeper. Americans have a deep hatred for people who harm children and actions taken against such people, even when they violate the law often go unpunished and, if not rewarded, are silently approved of.

Never underestimate the Mama Bear nature of America

Instant Karma: Americans have a deep hatred for people who harm children

Which is fine, but that's not what happened. The kid wanted to know what it felt like to be tazed, because he wanted to be a cop when he grew up, so the trooper tazed him on the lowest setting.

Not the greatest parenting skills ever, but it's certainly not the same as this guy getting mad and tazing the kid in punishment.

EVEN SO, the correct procedures were not followed.

This trooper tasered my nephew...that was...it's all on the record. It's all there

It's all on the record because months and months and months AFTER the tazing occured Governor Palin's sister decided to mention the incident as part of her divorce procedings.

Kinda makes the "outrage" seem a bit phony and staged.

("phony"? "outrage"? In my GOP? It's more common than you think....!)

so the premise here is that Palin has two sets of complaints. She is accused of wanting to punish the trooper, and she claims she had a good reason to fire the public safety commissioner. one of those is illegal, and the other one is a legitimate use of authority. when asked why she fired the public safety commissioner, she used the argument that she denied believing in and if true would mean she abused the power of the office.


this is way too sophisticated to expect some braindead jackass like charlie gibson to understand it. while it is a damning confirmation of her motives, i dont expect anyone will notice.

Instant Karma: Never underestimate the Mama Bear nature of America

Then why should they vote for a woman who doesn't strap her kid into a car seat? ^{(^)}

palladiate's hair: Then why should they vote for a woman who doesn't strap her kid into a car seat?

Remember the outrage when Britney Spears did the same thing? I'm sure this is vastly different.

Besides, maybe she doesn't care if her retard son gets killed in a car crash. It would be God's will.

Don't taze me bro!

This is a tempest in a teapot. As I read it, the case against her is awfully weak. If she were a highly intelligent, highly educated, insightful, articulate leader this flimsy case would bounce off her hull.

But, seeing as how she is a boorish, uncurious, provincial half-wit who makes up for her faults by being excessively decisive these charges could...

Wait.

I guess having said all that about her, these charges are pretty irrelevant.

While the details about the taser incident may prove that the kid asked for it I still feel that the general public will not dig into the details much and simply react to the headline "Trooper tasers child" and adding the clarification "because he asked for it" is not going to help. It is a little too similar to the underage sex defense that the "child" asked for it.

American politics is short attention span theater at its finest.

I don't think the car seat story provokes the same sort of response since it was a 'short trip around the facility' not a road trip. It falls back onto being something that most parents have done at least once and would be unlikely to find as a negative.

Like it or not Palin's appeal is the "everyman" syndrome and that is a tough nut to crack if it seems genuine enough, a rare thing in a politician.

what we all must admit to ourselves as Americans, as tough as it may be is, this women should not be Vice President.

No matter how milfy, we need a couple of smart people to try and fix this mess.

McCain/Palin are not those people.

lexshine: what we all must admit to ourselves as Americans, as tough as it may be is, this women should not be Vice President.

No matter how milfy, we need a couple of smart people to try and fix this mess.

McCain/Palin are not those people.

You could put the smartest people in the world in the oval office and it would not help unless they are given dictatorial powers along with the letterhead.

Instant Karma:
You could put the smartest people in the world in the oval office and it would not help unless they are given dictatorial powers along with the letterhead.

Or you can put the dumbest and end up with what we have now.

I'd like smart for awhile...

Instant Karma: You could put the smartest people in the world in the oval office and it would not help unless they are given dictatorial powers along with the letterhead.

That is not a good reason to leave the idiots in charge.

OK. So Farkers can understand:

Press: Did U fire Monegan b cause he not fire x-Brother-in-Law?
Palin: LOL. NOT. That illegal. I fired Monegan for reasons other than x-B-i-L
Press: Why U fire Moneghan?
Palin: x-B-i-L was dick, shoulda been fired

Instant Karma: You could put the smartest people in the world in the oval office and it would not help unless they are given dictatorial powers along with the letterhead.

You could drive your car, but other people on the road might still crash into you. Therefore you might as well let your cat drive.

You just know, in two or three years, after Palin/McCain have had some time in the Whitehouse, there will be scandals and malfeasance that will make us look back at Troopergate and smile at how sweet and innocent it all seemed.

Skleenar: OK. So Farkers can understand:

Press: Did U fire Monegan b cause he not fire x-Brother-in-Law?
Palin: LOL. NOT. That illegal. I fired Monegan for reasons other than x-B-i-L
Press: Why U fire Moneghan?
Palin: x-B-i-L was dick, shoulda been fired

That's not going to work. You need to find four (foar?) appropriate cat pictures and caption them with that text. That might do it.

First 45min of the VP debate had better be devoted to Trooper Gate -- as I'm still bitter ABC wasted my life back in the primaries on how many AK-47s Obama keeps under his bed when he's not burning the American flag.

DarnoKonrad: First 45min of the VP debate had better be devoted to Trooper Gate -- as I'm still bitter ABC wasted my life back in the primaries on how many AK-47s Obama keeps under his bed when he's not burning the American flag and teaching sex education to 3 year olds.

Dude, she's 3.

Sarah Palin is a dummy

Whatever... Palin is the Messiah sent to save Republicans!

Why don't you get that?!?!?

Burn_The_Plows: palladiate's hair: Then why should they vote for a woman who doesn't strap her kid into a car seat?

Remember the outrage when Britney Spears did the same thing? I'm sure this is vastly different.

Besides, maybe she doesn't care if her retard son gets killed in a car crash. It would be God's will.

You sir, are the retarded one, and should be tazed in the dick.

The Icelander: Instant Karma: You could put the smartest people in the world in the oval office and it would not help unless they are given dictatorial powers along with the letterhead.

You could drive your car, but other people on the road might still crash into you. Therefore you might as well let your cat drive.

I saw an interview where this trooper claimed that the kid asked how the taser felt. I'm not defending this as a justifiable action but it is a bit different if they kid was saying "I want to try that" rather than the parent doing it as punishment.

2 sides to every story.

flavor of the month: this is way too sophisticated to expect some braindead jackass like charlie gibson Sean Hannity to understand it. while it is a damning confirmation of her motives, i dont expect anyone will notice.

ftfy

Pirate Satellite: The Icelander: Instant Karma: You could put the smartest people in the world in the oval office and it would not help unless they are given dictatorial powers along with the letterhead.

You could drive your car, but other people on the road might still crash into you. Therefore you might as well let your cat drive.

OMG...LOL'd and LOL'd and LOL'd I tells ya!!

Wow. McCain/Palin are just wallowing in fail right now, aren't they? Someone needs to break out the bilge pumps and try to right that ship.

For the record, bloviating about taxes and drilling is not going to do it.

Burn_The_Plows: Besides, maybe she doesn't care if her retard son gets killed in a car crash. It would be God's will.

That's what I'm thinking. Now that Trisomy Trig was born, it's OK and now God's will if he dies, regardless of the choices her mother now makes.

The only way you can murder your baby is by abortion. Your shiatty parenting is just the will of God.

Instant Karma 2008-09-19 12:24:17 PM
I don't think I'd be so quick to say that digs the hole deeper. Americans have a deep hatred for people who harm children and actions taken against such people, even when they violate the law often go unpunished and, if not rewarded, are silently approved of.

Never underestimate the Mama Bear nature of America

I think you are right, and that this is why this issue has been avoided in the 'official' campaign (or I've missed it).

It could easily play into the whole 'Palin broke the rules to do what she knew was right' rhetoric.

If the Obama campaign is going to raise this issue at all, I would think it would have to be in the context of supporting her actions (or at least, carefully not condemning them), but then pointing out that she should cooperate with the investigation to get the truth out there (or something like that).

On an unrelated note - do we have a 'Rabid Palin Supporter' nickname yet?

I nominate 'Palindrome'.

Obviously: Burn_The_Plows: palladiate's hair: Then why should they vote for a woman who doesn't strap her kid into a car seat?

Remember the outrage when Britney Spears did the same thing? I'm sure this is vastly different.

Besides, maybe she doesn't care if her retard son gets killed in a car crash. It would be God's will.

You sir, are the retarded one, and should be tazed in the dick.

Obviously, I should have kept the family out of this. I apologize.

We need to focus right now on how this officer hurt her family. That's the story.

She should have called the police.

/Is everyone missing the irony here ?

Hey I shot a guy in the face and didn't even have to talk to the cops until after I sobered up the next day and then the guy apologized to me. for me shooting him in the face.
and I kept my job.
hah

Republican Justice. What you gonna do when it comes for you?

priestrape: Sarah Palin is a dummy



Agrees.

If the mother of this child was SO concerned about this tazering incident, why did she wait until she decided to divorce the guy to report it?

Palin's excuses have been changed more than Bush's excuses to why the USA invaded Iraq.

Look, if there is nothing wrong with what happened here, and Palin was in the right morally, if not ethically, then why won't she come forward and testify? Why won't her husband? Why won't she let members of her administration do so?

I keep hearing her and McCain talk about transparency. Aren't they being a little hypocritical by being so opaque?

If for some reason McCain drops dead of a heart attack or something before the election, but with enough time to change the ballot, would the GOP elevate Palin to the top spot? Just curious.

Jster422: On an unrelated note - do we have a 'Rabid Palin Supporter' nickname yet?

I nominate 'Palindrome'.

How about Palindrone? Thats pretty right on.

Jster422: I nominate 'Palindrome'.

Palindrone.

One letter from perfection.

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A++ would read again.

elvisbloom: How about Palindrone?

13 seconds.

dammit.

The real news story here is that her answer shows that they absolutely will not let this go to a court of law. They will wage this fight entirely in the court of public opinion.

Making the case that the ex-bro-in-law is a jerk who deserves any bad treatment he gets is not a legal defense against the charge that you pressured a state official to fire him because he's a jerk.
In fact it's dangerously close to corroborating the investigator's theory of the crime.
If there was any possibility that this would end up in a court of law, the legal team would have done a full syncronized facepalm at that statement.
They intend to legislate this entirely in the court of public opinion.

Simplest Quantum System Conceivable: The real news story here is that her answer shows that they absolutely will not let this go to a court of law. They will wage this fight entirely in the court of public opinion.

Making the case that the ex-bro-in-law is a jerk who deserves any bad treatment he gets is not a legal defense against the charge that you pressured a state official to fire him because he's a jerk.
In fact it's dangerously close to corroborating the investigator's theory of the crime.
If there was any possibility that this would end up in a court of law, the legal team would have done a full syncronized facepalm at that statement.
They intend to legislate this entirely in the court of public opinion.

How about firing him because he did illegal shiat or broke department rules?

Jster422: I nominate 'Palindrome'.

I prefer 'Palindrone'.

/not mine

In John McCain's OWN WORDS....

"I didn't decide to run for president to start a national crusade for the political reforms I believed in or to run a campaign as if it were some grand act of patriotism. In truth, I wanted to be president because it had become my ambition to be president."

From the horse's mouth in his own book.
He's running for President merely to satisfy his own ambition and ego, not to serve the people of the country. He doesn't really care about reforms or patriotism. His own mouth just bore him out to be a self-serving flip-flopper who will do whatever it takes to win.

vonster: How about firing him because he did illegal shiat or broke department rules?

Well, then you would need to show that he did. But he didn't.

/Oh, you were talking about Wooten, the man who wasn't fired, weren't you?

"His threats against the first family, the threat against my dad. All that is in the record...I should know, I didn't report it immediately because I was so concerned but set the record straight later"

FTFH

On Aug. 10, 2005, Palin sent an angry, three-page e-mail to Col. Julia Grimes, head of the state police. "My concern is that the public's faith in the Troopers will continue to diminish as more residents express concerns regarding the apparent lack of action towards a Trooper whom is described by many as 'a ticking time bomb' and a 'loose cannon.' "

"Wooten is my brother-in-law, but this information is forwarded to you objectively," and asked Grimes to treat the information objectively. Where my lip shtick?

Keeping Wooten on the police force, Palin wrote, "would lead a rational person to believe there is a problem inside the organization." Link (new window)

OMG I'm DYING of laughter at that cat driving pic!


/Made my day!