We need to revamp our domestic infrastructure on all sorts of fronts.

/Hurrrricanes. Anyone want to take a bet that there wont be another major one in the gulf next year?
//Lets prepare.

You know who else Ike did considerable damage to?

Time to replay this McCain Comedy Classic™ again:

"I'm aware that off the coast of Louisiana and Texas there are oil rigs, as we well know, and those rigs have survived, very successfully, the impacts of hurricanes."

BOHICA

Manic_Repressive: You know who else Ike did considerable damage to?

Reverse Godwin - nice ...

i get my new car tomorrow. haven't had a car in 5 1/2 years. my how things have changed at the pump.

God, we need a better fuel source.

Bohica:

bend
over
here
it
comes
again

vudukungfu

F5 is my friend, I shall use it more often from here on out.

oh no. the man isn't going to show up with the stuff

"Shut the fark up", I work at a gas station in St. Louis and people are going crazy over the hurricane. Its stupid that anybody who watches local stations gets caught up in the gas fear mongering. All gas stations near where I lived and to an extent a good deal of the St. Louis area were out of gas. Customers would line up to get their chance at the pumps it is like being chosen for some special prize. To come in and biatch about gas prices, again.

I call bullshiat. Ever since Katrina, hurricanes have been an excuse to price gouge at the pump. Hang the whole lot of em.

When asked about how Ike will affect the oil business, he only had this to say:

'You'll get no sympathy from me.'

He then later said that he 'fights for his friends' and then Up Smashed the coast of Texas off the stage.

Maybe it's me getting old, but I don't remember this happening years ago. It seems we used to make it through hurricane seasons without raising fuel prices. What's changed? Are we building oil rigs out of balsa wood now?

ClemsonSoldier: God, we need a better fuel source.


Soylent oil is made out of people.

atheist1295: I call bullshiat. Ever since ________, ___________ have been an excuse to price gouge at the pump. Hang the whole lot of em.

FTFY

Oil is below $100 but price of gas goes up.

Dull Cow Eyes: ClemsonSoldier: God, we need a better fuel source.


Soylent oil is made out of people.

Yes, but they're midgets, so it doesn't count.

atheist1295: I call bullshiat. Ever since Katrina, hurricanes have been an excuse to price gouge at the pump. Hang the whole lot of em.

You do realize that the majority of price gouging complaints come from people who have no idea what the concept of supply and demand is?

/dad's a district manager for a independent gas company
//I hear about the shiat all the time

Parts of Canada's gas prices went up as Ike hit.
And we get our oil domestically.
But some has to go to America for refining.
..All a scam to get gasoline to Ottawa(The East).
The West can oil and process itself.

/So F*CK the East.
//You can keep Manitoba.
///The rest of the West is breaking loose.

If only there were places in America where we could get oil with minimal risk of natural disasters...

=p

Get Lost: Parts of Canada's gas prices went up as Ike hit.
And we get our oil domestically.
But some has to go to America for refining.
..All a scam to get gasoline to Ottawa(The East).
The West can oil and process itself.

/So F*CK the East.
//You can keep Manitoba.
///The rest of the West is breaking loose.

Gas went up in the Montreal area and there's a refinery there. They're just raping us as usual.

Oil goes under a hundred a barrel and it takes a month for the prices to "show." One day after the hurricane downs some refineries and prices immediately go up.

We are all pawns. All of us playthings for the rich and powerful.

EvilAvatar: Oil goes under a hundred a barrel and it takes a month for the prices to "show." One day after the hurricane downs some refineries and prices immediately go up.

We are all pawns. All of us playthings for the rich and powerful.

Don't forget, we all took a 30-40c "anticipatory hike" (aka profit gouging) nationwide for ike, before the problems arised, which will stay well after things return to normal, to continue the pricing problems.

/is there a way to buy gasoline and pick it up without having to get it through gas stations/making it yourself?
//disgusted

Wait! Saint McCain says that offshore drilling platforms are impervious to hurricane damage, and that it's 100% safe for our environment so we can build them everywhere!

Get Lost
//You can keep Manitoba.

HEY HEY lets not be mean!

/ $1.43/l here, 11 cent jump
//brutal

Looks like $5+/gallon is here to stay for a while.

The government should start by seizing one of the fuel companies, and making a Standard Oil type company with prices just a little above what they SHOULD be.

They'd be the lowest by $3+/gallon right now, and the other companies could still compete at a profit.

Instead of like it is now, where some people can no longer afford to pay their bills or feed their kids because gas jumped $2/gallon in some areas overnight.

They are saying that about 1/3 of the oil platforms are damaged and they are sending crews out now to get the ones not damaged cleaned up and start them back up.

My uncle works for the one of the big oil companies and says it will about two more weeks before they will back up to normal and the oil rigs come out looking good. We need to drill more here in the States and more off the West Coast and the Gulf. Hurricanes or no hurricanes.

We need to invent an engine that takes in crude oil as fuel and poops asphalt out the tailpipe.

Dull Cow Eyes: ClemsonSoldier: God, we need a better fuel source.


Soylent oil is made out of people.

Lets use the oil execs! After all, they are full of shiat, a decent source of methane.

Hrist: Looks like $5+/gallon is here to stay for a while.

The government should start by seizing one of the fuel companies, and making a Standard Oil type company with prices just a little above what they SHOULD be.

They'd be the lowest by $3+/gallon right now, and the other companies could still compete at a profit.

Instead of like it is now, where some people can no longer afford to pay their bills or feed their kids because gas jumped $2/gallon in some areas overnight.

Yeah, price controls worked so well in the '70s or you can't look up gas lines up on Wiki? Sigh, they are right about history repeating itself.

Byno: Dull Cow Eyes: ClemsonSoldier: God, we need a better fuel source.

Soylent oil is made out of people.

Yes, but they're midgets, so it doesn't count.


HEY! Those little bottles of two stroke oil are very important for us guys that have gas weed-whackers.

freakdiablo: Dull Cow Eyes: ClemsonSoldier: God, we need a better fuel source.


Soylent oil is made out of people.

Lets use the oil execs! After all, they are full of shiat, a decent source of methane.

I just filled up my car for $65, so I'm really getting a kick...

Party Boy: /Hurrrricanes. Anyone want to take a bet that there wont be another major one in the gulf next year?
//Lets prepare.

2008 hurricane season is only half over.

Manic_Repressive: You know who else Ike did considerable damage to?
That's just beautiful

submitter: Weary consumers know the drill, and assume the position

Increase demands for renewable energy such as solar water heating and private windmills?

/well it SHOULD BE.

Oh shiat.

Ike Forces Shutdown of 19% of U.S. Refining Capacity

Link (Bloomberg)

Supply Disruptions

Gasoline supplies across the southern and eastern U.S. may be disrupted by Ike, Rouiller said.

``We could have this capability lost for a long period of time,' he said.

We need more refining capacity, vehicles converted to CNG. No go juice for you. Do not pass go, do not collect $200.00.

Good thing we aren't producing at peak capacity or else we would have a price bump each time 17 facilities were shut down.

Good thing we aren't running out of oil or else we could simply import more oil from overseas easily.

Good thing global warming- man made or environmental trend- isn't happening or else we should have stronger storms like Katrina and Ike each year from here on out.

Oh, wait.

I need to be a conservative fact-denier. Their world is much happier than reality.

farkingatwork: Don't forget, we all took a 30-40c "anticipatory hike" (aka profit gouging) nationwide for ike, before the problems arised, which will stay well after things return to normal, to continue the pricing problems.

no we didn't, prices around here have dropped more than 50 cents since the beginning of july and have held rock steady at 3.53 for 3 weeks or so.

Why would the government seize the oil companies when so many in Congress and the Executive branch make money from said companies? Can't turn to the Supreme Court either as a member has ties to Exxon.

/puts on tin foil hat

And only one month of oil in the strategic oil reserves.

CURRENT SPR INVENTORY AS OF September 12, 2008
SWEET 283.1 million bbls
SOUR 423.7 million bbls
TOTAL 706.8

U.S. Petroleum Consumption September 2008
20,680,000 barrels/day

Source (new window)
And source (new window)

/mmm sweet and sour

would that position be something like bend over to get drilled?

drill, baby, drill!

You'd think we'd be smart enough to build a refinery since 1975. everybody biatches about oil drilling, but it isn't a shortage of oil that drives the pump prices it's a shortage of refining capacity. a shortage we've all been aware of for 30 years or more.

Seriously big oil folks, stop building the refineries all in one spot I realise it's convenient for you but sheesh. If you'd build a few away from hurricane bay maybe the government folks wouldn't be preparing to "help" you with your profit problems.

Byno: Dull Cow Eyes: ClemsonSoldier: God, we need a better fuel source.


Soylent oil is made out of people.

Yes, but they're midgets, so it doesn't count.

No. They count for half.

Party Boy: We need to revamp our domestic infrastructure on all sorts of fronts.


Agreed 100%. Our transportation systems (roads and rails) are crap. Our energy infrastructure is crap. Many of our water systems are crap.

But how are we going to pay for it all?

I have a plan, why not get off our crack like dependence on oil? Why not start moving over to nuclear power, wind power, wave power, I donno, anything renewable.

Sure, we're stuck with combustion engines for a while longer, but we need to think about national infrastructure and start working on sensible infrastructure.

I guess I'll just continue to take the bus to work and back for $2.50 per day...

karst: You'd think we'd be smart enough to build a refinery since 1975. everybody biatches about oil drilling, but it isn't a shortage of oil that drives the pump prices it's a shortage of refining capacity. a shortage we've all been aware of for 30 years or more.

Seriously big oil folks, stop building the refineries all in one spot I realise it's convenient for you but sheesh. If you'd build a few away from hurricane bay maybe the government folks wouldn't be preparing to "help" you with your profit problems.

we used to have a refinery here in indianapolis, I believe it was owned by marathon. it was dismantled in the early to mid 1990's.