Hate crimes are BS, but assault is a real crime.
Something is fishy here.

his jab was fabulous.

The only sensible argument against hate crime legislation what that you can't legislate what people think.

However, assault is assault, so there's something I'm missing here.

Maybe they didn't want to arrest the both of them? Help me out here.

honeymaid8 Maybe they didn't want to arrest the both of them? Help me out here.


the gay guy didnt break the law.

for the cop not to even take a report, the moran who started it must have been pretty bad off. that or the cop is an asshole. (not impossible)

I figured.

But then what the hell is going on in Denver? I understand being against hate crime legislation, but no arrests for battery? Assault? Nothing?

This is more outrageous than the DC police just picking up on the fact that there's an upswing in homosexual assaults in my neighborhood (the trend is about 6 months old).

Homosexual is the new Black.

Pretty damn disgusting. While I don't agree with hate crime laws as crimes in an of themselves, I do believe in their being a component in sentencing for assault and murder.

This is going to be one ugly thread.
Quick, someone destrackt them with spellings and grammers.

On St. Patrick's Day 2007, he was on his first and only visit to Denver when he, his cousin and her boyfriend were walking home from dinner at a 16th Street eatery.
"What may be the most embarrassing thing is that I have to admit to everyone that I actually ate at the Cheesecake Factory," Daivari quips.

Excellent.

"Come on, I look like a raging homo," Daivari says proudly.

This guy has a hell of a sense of humor. Love the Cheesecake quip too.

Denver PD looks like a bunch of asses now.

U-S-A! U-S-A!

Wait, the guy punched him? oh fark this article. Strike the above.

discount sushi: "Come on, I look like a raging homo," Daivari says proudly.

This guy has a hell of a sense of humor. Love the Cheesecake quip too.

Denver PD looks like a bunch of asses now.

That's what I got from the article...

Hate crimes are hate crimes. Denver PD... GFY.

My dad always warned me, never get in a fight with a poof. They've been fighting all their lives and you haven't.

And that's good advice, although I do have trouble not snickering at confused men who love putting cocks in their mouths.

sweigardc: Homosexual is the new Black.

Does that explain why there is one on every new TV show?

staplermofo: Hate crimes are BS, but assault battery is a real crime.

FTFY.

Something is fishy here.

Agreed.

sweigardc: Homosexual is the new Black.

Why do you say that?

The guy slammed the crap out of him.

He licked him but good.

He had no choice but to beat the other guy off.

/someone stop me

Ok, I'm low on sleep, but wtf? Is there a law in Denver that says "Them dang turd-burglers can't complain if we wants to hit 'em?"

(As a Georgian I enjoy getting to accuse others of not being able to speak coherently.

I knew a queen when I was younger, looked like an old lady. Flaming as one can be. But he wouldn't take any crap. Saw him beat down two assholes who called him a fag in a Denny's parking lot. It was beautiful.

Why is it worse to get assaulted because you are gay than if the guy just doesn't like your hat? I mean, assault is assault, and should be punished. I just don't really see why it matters the reasoning behind it. A guy who assaults me for wearing the wrong team's hat should get just as much punishment as the guy who assaults someone for being gay.

What does it matter if the guy was a raging 'mo or not? The other dude attacked him. That's assault. The guy's orientation is completely immaterial. He's still protected as a citizen, and citizens are legally protected from unprovoked attacks.

staplermofo: Hate crimes are BS, but assault is a real crime.
Something is fishy here.

Actually, the point of hate crime legislation is to stop shiat like this from happening. They're intended to reinforce the fact that this is a crime with cops who turn a blind eye.

smeegle: sweigardc: Homosexual is the new Black.

Why do you say that?

He means that Obama is gay, silly. Everyone knows that.

/i hear he's a Muslin, too

The moral of the story is that Daivari should have crippled or killed the dude. Then the cops would have at least had to call somebody to shovel his carcass off the pavement, and probably would have then bothered to get his name.

Damn. That's embarrassing to all police in uniform. At the very least the police department needs to fire that officer and issue a formal apology to Daiwhatverhisnameis.

I have to say, the headline is a bit misleading. Sure, don't call people names when they can kick your ass, but the name caller threw more than just slurs.

I don't care if it's due to homophobia, racism, or even just that the attacker was a dick who was bored and looking for a fight. No matter the reason, assault is assault and I can't believe the cops would just ignore it like that.

Float like a butterfly...

CruJones: A guy who assaults me for wearing the wrong team's hat should get just as much punishment as the guy who assaults someone for being gay.

Which is "Hey break it up and go about your business!" according to the Denver PD.

He called you a fag, what are you going to do about it?

"What may be the most embarrassing thing is that I have to admit to everyone that I actually ate at the Cheesecake Factory," Daivari quips.

Oh suh-nap!

So in Denver cops don't have to report the crime if they don't like the victim? So if you're black and get assaulted and the cop doesn't like black people they just tell you to run along?

CruJones: Why is it worse to get assaulted because you are gay than if the guy just doesn't like your hat? I mean, assault is assault, and should be punished. I just don't really see why it matters the reasoning behind it. A guy who assaults me for wearing the wrong team's hat should get just as much punishment as the guy who assaults someone for being gay.

It's the same reason you might get anywhere between involuntary manslaugter and first degree murder for killing someone. Intent matters in our society, a lot.

dahmers love zombie: smeegle: sweigardc: Homosexual is the new Black.

Why do you say that?

He means that Obama is gay, silly. Everyone knows that.

/i hear he's a Muslin, too


So confusing. I can't figure out which came first, queer bashing or assault, or maybe assault during a picnic for homos is not really assault at all.
I guess we shouldn't ever bother to look at the motive for assault that way we don't ever have to understand the cause or work to protect people who are different.

CruJones: Why is it worse to get assaulted because you are gay than if the guy just doesn't like your hat? I mean, assault is assault, and should be punished. I just don't really see why it matters the reasoning behind it. A guy who assaults me for wearing the wrong team's hat should get just as much punishment as the guy who assaults someone for being gay.

While I don't agree with hate crime legislation, I do agree that certain ramifications are justified against harassment of protected groups. That is, I don't think if you attack a person because they are a certain sexual orientation or race that that is any worse than without such an ignorant reason, but I do believe if you're doing an action to purposefully harass such a group that your charges should be worse.

For instance, attacking a homosexual, probably not more than simple ignorant, violent bigotry. Dragging a homosexual behind your truck? Aside from the malevolence and audacity of the act which is terrible enough I believe that attempts to send a very assaulting message to others the same as if you threatened to kill them to their faces.

Well, I guess it's a good thing that this guy is able to look out for himself.

Good lord, Denver PD.

If you're gay and feel like flaunting your sexuality, you place your bet and pay your dues. Its no surprise that most in society don't agree with your choice, and consider it offensive for gays to force their agenda on our children, or out in public. There are consequences to our choices.

So walking down the street wearing funny clothes...means this guy was asking to get his ass kicked? This is the attitude many Americans have, and it's one of the reasons hate crime legislation exists. Because without it, it's just a homo getting what's coming to him. Cops obviously don't give a shiat, and will look the other way if they can.

BTW, the above comment was courtesy of Michael Casteel. Advice: if you're going to be a dick, be smart and do it anonymously.

I don't mind the concept of hate crimes (as a special crime category) as long as two things are rigorously followed:

1: Upgrading the case to a "hate crime" should bear with it the full legal standard (beyond a reasonable doubt) that the assault/crime was perpetrated BECAUSE of the racial/ethnic/religious/sexual/gender/whatever category of the victim. Not just "because" they happened to be in that particular group.

2: Prosecute EVERY case where this appears to be the truth. No matter what race, etc. the offender or victim happen to be.

Dr.Zom: So in Denver cops don't have to report the crime if they don't like the victim? So if you're black and get assaulted and the cop doesn't like black people they just tell you to run along?

No because they are a protected minority under the hate crime laws in the state on Colorado, homosexuals are not. At least that's what I got from reading that article.

cwsfa: Float like a butterfly...

Burns like when I pee.

Excuse me, is your refrigerator running? Because if it is, it probably runs like you, very homosexually.

I was at Halloween party in Mississippi with a guy wearing a tutu. A very, mean mean guy in a tutu. So some frat daddies decided he was a pussy, and began to act very unwisely.

The mean guy in the tutu ended up a mean guy in a tutu with a frat daddy's broken teeth sticking out of his knuckles.

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Homosexuality is a learned behaviour. In any given culture, homosexuals tend to behave in a similar manner -- as homosexuals are expected to conduct themselves in that culture. Whether the prevailing stereotype is flaming, or fruity, or butch, or closeted, or merely effeminate, the individual adapts his own behaviour to fit the environment.

Someone who will assault an unknown person simply for being gay/black/Jewish/takeyourpick is a greater threat to society than someone who gets in a fight with his friend over a situation or any other reason, and that's where hate crimes come in, unless you think punishment should have nothing to do with the impact that the crime has on society, in which case you scare me.

OZZ: My dad always warned me, never get in a fight with a poof. They've been fighting all their lives and you haven't.

...and there's nothing you could do to them that isn't more painful than what they do all the time just to get off.

letrole: Homosexuality is a learned behaviour.

Care to post a source for this?

Montuckian: Hate crimes are hate crimes

I don't care about that so much. Just because the victim is gay doesn't make assault any less of a crime. If he wanted to press charges they shouldn't have denied him that.

What's wrong with calling someone a bundle of sticks?

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fag·ot also fag·got (fāg'ət) Pronunciation Key
n.

1. A bundle of twigs, sticks, or branches bound together.
2. A bundle of pieces of iron or steel to be welded or hammered into bars.

"Thats messed up"

How profound and a great reporting quote.

"U.S. District Judge Zita Weinshienk dismissed the case Thursday, holding that no rights were violated. Gay men are not a protected class under the Constitution."

More important than if homosexuals are protected classes is if the man was assaulted, which he says he was, and the officer refusing to allow him to press charges. If someone attacks me because they despise my musical taste and the officer fails to take them into custody for the same reason this is a matter of denying a person their protection under the law.

The officer did not do his job. Flat out. His reason for refusal were probably bigoted, but that is not the central issue, that will merely be the reason this story becomes highlighted.