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T.M.S. [TotalFark] 2008-09-14 12:32:14 AM  
Aside from being about the least imaginative photo shops I have ever seen what is there in those images that defies physics?

You could realize anything in those pictures if you wanted to.

 
ecmoRandomNumbers [TotalFark] 2008-09-14 12:41:15 AM  
OK, Fark Engineers...

How fast would a car have to travel to make that freeway loop?

/seriously curious

 
ChiliBoots [TotalFark] 2008-09-14 12:55:36 AM  
ecmoRandomNumbers: OK, Fark Engineers...

How fast would a car have to travel to make that freeway loop?

/seriously curious


I'm guessing that it's about 80m in diameter, so given that centripetal acceleration is given by a = v^2/r and you want to have at least 9.81 m/s^2 acceleration at the top you'd have to be going about 20m/s at the top, or about 72km/h.

That's at the top though, you're probably going to need kinetic energy at the bottom to take you up. To make it to the top without adding more power after loop entry you'll have to be going around 215 km/h or so. At that speed you'll be pulling about 10g on initial loop entry, again assuming a loop diameter of 80m.

 
ecmoRandomNumbers [TotalFark] 2008-09-14 01:11:21 AM  
ChiliBoots: At that speed you'll be pulling about 10g on initial loop entry, again assuming a loop diameter of 80m.

So, basically, the tires will have blown way before you got to the top of the loop? Can a modern car take that many Gs on the suspension?

 
Hollie Maea 2008-09-14 01:13:57 AM  
Dubai will build that big tree now just to piss Subby off.

 
Arkanaut 2008-09-14 03:26:59 AM  
ecmoRandomNumbers: ChiliBoots: At that speed you'll be pulling about 10g on initial loop entry, again assuming a loop diameter of 80m.

So, basically, the tires will have blown way before you got to the top of the loop? Can a modern car take that many Gs on the suspension?


More importantly the driver will probably have passed out long before then. A human being in good shape will be able to withstand 9 g, but most Americans are probably well below that threshold.

 
Fototark [TotalFark] 2008-09-14 03:27:30 AM  
This post!

FAIL

 
Gyrfalcon [TotalFark] 2008-09-14 03:28:12 AM  
Arkanaut: ecmoRandomNumbers: ChiliBoots: At that speed you'll be pulling about 10g on initial loop entry, again assuming a loop diameter of 80m.

So, basically, the tires will have blown way before you got to the top of the loop? Can a modern car take that many Gs on the suspension?

More importantly the driver will probably have passed out long before then. A human being in good shape will be able to withstand 9 g, but most Americans are probably well below that threshold.


Nevermind the driver, will it shut the kids up? Or will the baby spit milk and rainbow Goldfish all over the ceiling?

 
GreatUnclean 2008-09-14 03:31:12 AM  
architect = glorified art student.

 
petulant snowflake 2008-09-14 03:31:42 AM  
www.gamefocus.ca


This?

// sorry about the link ...

 
Poppa Boner [TotalFark] 2008-09-14 03:31:50 AM  
ChiliBoots: ecmoRandomNumbers: OK, Fark Engineers...

How fast would a car have to travel to make that freeway loop?

/seriously curious

I'm guessing that it's about 80m in diameter, so given that centripetal acceleration is given by a = v^2/r and you want to have at least 9.81 m/s^2 acceleration at the top you'd have to be going about 20m/s at the top, or about 72km/h.

That's at the top though, you're probably going to need kinetic energy at the bottom to take you up. To make it to the top without adding more power after loop entry you'll have to be going around 215 km/h or so. At that speed you'll be pulling about 10g on initial loop entry, again assuming a loop diameter of 80m.


i21.photobucket.com

/that was actually kind of cool

 
dave2198 2008-09-14 03:32:16 AM  
What happens when architects are given Photoshop and they forget the laws of physics?

9/11 Truther fodder?

/i got nothin

 
Dubai Vol 2008-09-14 03:33:03 AM  
Hollie Maea: Dubai will build that big tree now just to piss Subby off.

I hope not. My apartment is in the middle of the trunk....
img.photobucket.com

 
limboslam 2008-09-14 03:34:40 AM  
diy.despair.com

 
Solty Dog 2008-09-14 03:35:47 AM  
i46.photobucket.com

Always had trouble with the loop.

 
hbalien 2008-09-14 03:38:28 AM  
Pretty lame, Milhouse!

"Or, changing gears, what if commercial airlines flew their birds in a V formation, like birds?"

Wow! That's some crazy thinking right there.

 
myalias1845 2008-09-14 03:38:37 AM  
ecmoRandomNumbers: OK, Fark Engineers...

How fast would a car have to travel to make that freeway loop?

/seriously curious


Dunno, but on Mario Kart it's pretty easy as long as damn Bowser doesn't knock you off the rainbow...

 
Die_ Ubermensch 2008-09-14 03:38:43 AM  
I want to see the supercarrier island.

I think it's a cool idea.


Also: some people have too much money (new window).

 
Great Janitor 2008-09-14 03:38:56 AM  
My city needs that loop on the interstate. It would definitely make my commute more interesting.

 
Mordis 2008-09-14 03:40:24 AM  
Solty Dog: Always had trouble with the loop.

ZOMG! I miss that game!

 
vune 2008-09-14 03:46:17 AM  
cache.gizmodo.com

Sweet mother of crap, it's MIND BLOWING!

 
overslacked 2008-09-14 03:47:11 AM  
I was really hoping to see a cup.

 
myalias1845 2008-09-14 03:48:00 AM  
Well...what are you all waiting for? We going to turn this into a photoshop competition or what?

 
randomstranger 2008-09-14 03:48:41 AM  
ChiliBoots: ecmoRandomNumbers: OK, Fark Engineers...

How fast would a car have to travel to make that freeway loop?

/seriously curious

I'm guessing that it's about 80m in diameter, so given that centripetal acceleration is given by a = v^2/r and you want to have at least 9.81 m/s^2 acceleration at the top you'd have to be going about 20m/s at the top, or about 72km/h.

That's at the top though, you're probably going to need kinetic energy at the bottom to take you up. To make it to the top without adding more power after loop entry you'll have to be going around 215 km/h or so. At that speed you'll be pulling about 10g on initial loop entry, again assuming a loop diameter of 80m.


you talk like a fag and your shiat's all retarded

 
randomstranger 2008-09-14 03:50:45 AM  
myalias1845: ecmoRandomNumbers: OK, Fark Engineers...

How fast would a car have to travel to make that freeway loop?

/seriously curious

Dunno, but on Mario Kart it's pretty easy as long as damn Bowser doesn't knock you off the rainbow...


Ha. I love you. When's the LA fark party going down so I can bring you flowers and alcohol and shiat?

 
myalias1845 2008-09-14 03:54:51 AM  
randomstranger: myalias1845: ecmoRandomNumbers: OK, Fark Engineers...

How fast would a car have to travel to make that freeway loop?

/seriously curious

Dunno, but on Mario Kart it's pretty easy as long as damn Bowser doesn't knock you off the rainbow...

Ha. I love you. When's the LA fark party going down so I can bring you flowers and alcohol and shiat?


Good question. LA is due for one. Would love the gifts, but you can probably exclude the shiat from that list and we'll get along just fine.

 
MrSteve007 2008-09-14 03:55:43 AM  
GreatUnclean: architect = glorified art student.

Exactly, that's one of many reasons I wish that I worked in an office filled with more engineers vs. all architects and interior designers.

They have to have cluttered, paper filled desks because they're 'creative.' I've asked them why do they have so much stuff piled up, even though we have some of the most advanced digital archiving systems around, and tablet PC's available for all of them to mark up blueprints, plus all of their documents start out as purely digital products in the first place. They have no answer, other than 'I don't have time to clean, I have to make deadline.' It is not uncommon to find documents from 1996 at the bottom of their paper piles.

/my interior designers want Macs on their desktops because 'they look good.'

 
randomstranger 2008-09-14 03:56:36 AM  
Even if the shiat smelt like roses?

 
madcap72 2008-09-14 03:57:15 AM  
ChiliBoots: ecmoRandomNumbers: OK, Fark Engineers...

How fast would a car have to travel to make that freeway loop?

/seriously curious

I'm guessing that it's about 80m in diameter, so given that centripetal acceleration is given by a = v^2/r and you want to have at least 9.81 m/s^2 acceleration at the top you'd have to be going about 20m/s at the top, or about 72km/h.

That's at the top though, you're probably going to need kinetic energy at the bottom to take you up. To make it to the top without adding more power after loop entry you'll have to be going around 215 km/h or so. At that speed you'll be pulling about 10g on initial loop entry, again assuming a loop diameter of 80m.


What speed is that in American?

 
Gyrfalcon [TotalFark] 2008-09-14 03:57:54 AM  
MrSteve007: GreatUnclean: architect = glorified art student.

Exactly, that's one of many reasons I wish that I worked in an office filled with more engineers vs. all architects and interior designers.

They have to have cluttered, paper filled desks because they're 'creative.' I've asked them why do they have so much stuff piled up, even though we have some of the most advanced digital archiving systems around, and tablet PC's available for all of them to mark up blueprints, plus all of their documents start out as purely digital products in the first place. They have no answer, other than 'I don't have time to clean, I have to make deadline.' It is not uncommon to find documents from 1996 at the bottom of their paper piles.

/my interior designers want Macs on their desktops because 'they look good.'


Tell them they're all breeders and their shiat's all retarded.

 
And-1 2008-09-14 04:04:04 AM  
submitter: What happens when architects are given Photoshop and they forget the laws of physics?

The produce some really pathetic boring shiat. What a POS.

 
normalclose 2008-09-14 04:05:57 AM  
i33.tinypic.com

/not impressed

 
myalias1845 2008-09-14 04:06:12 AM  
randomstranger: Even if the shiat smelt like roses?

Hmmm...tempting...but my shiat smells like roses as it is. Don't think I need anymore. ;)

 
The_Pole_Of_Justice 2008-09-14 04:07:12 AM  
T.M.S.: Aside from being about the least imaginative photo shops I have ever seen what is there in those images that defies physics?

You could realize anything in those pictures if you wanted to.


Of course, the laws of physics would have nothing to do with actually using those things for their intended purposes...

 
randomstranger 2008-09-14 04:08:06 AM  
myalias1845: randomstranger: Even if the shiat smelt like roses?

Hmmm...tempting...but my shiat smells like roses as it is. Don't think I need anymore. ;)


It's cool. I normally donate mine to AKWS-SS anyway--American Kids With shiatty-Smelling shiat.

 
myalias1845 2008-09-14 04:09:03 AM  
madcap72:

What speed is that in American?


Fast.

 
mikaloyd 2008-09-14 04:10:10 AM  
ChiliBoots: ecmoRandomNumbers: OK, Fark Engineers...

How fast would a car have to travel to make that freeway loop?

/seriously curious

I'm guessing that it's about 80m in diameter, so given that centripetal acceleration is given by a = v^2/r and you want to have at least 9.81 m/s^2 acceleration at the top you'd have to be going about 20m/s at the top, or about 72km/h.

That's at the top though, you're probably going to need kinetic energy at the bottom to take you up. To make it to the top without adding more power after loop entry you'll have to be going around 215 km/h or so. At that speed you'll be pulling about 10g on initial loop entry, again assuming a loop diameter of 80m.


It doesnt look a cm over 50m to me. Id put it closer to 35 or 40 meters in diameter.

 
hershmire 2008-09-14 04:10:38 AM  
ecmoRandomNumbers: ChiliBoots: At that speed you'll be pulling about 10g on initial loop entry, again assuming a loop diameter of 80m.

So, basically, the tires will have blown way before you got to the top of the loop? Can a modern car take that many Gs on the suspension?


The question is: when you black out from 10 Gs, will you care if your suspension blows out?

 
myalias1845 2008-09-14 04:11:21 AM  
randomstranger: myalias1845: randomstranger: Even if the shiat smelt like roses?

Hmmm...tempting...but my shiat smells like roses as it is. Don't think I need anymore. ;)

It's cool. I normally donate mine to AKWS-SS anyway--American Kids With shiatty-Smelling shiat.


Hey, me too! It's a great tax break.

 
Arngautr 2008-09-14 04:15:23 AM  
ChiliBoots:

I'm guessing that it's about 80m in diameter, so given that centripetal acceleration is given by a = v^2/r and you want to have at least 9.81 m/s^2 acceleration at the top you'd have to be going about 20m/s at the top, or about 72km/h.

That's at the top though, you're probably going to need kinetic energy at the bottom to take you up. To make it to the top without adding more power after loop entry you'll have to be going around 215 km/h 160 km/h or so. At that speed you'll be pulling about 10g on initial loop entry, again assuming a loop diameter of 80m.


FTFY :)

/If I'm wrong I'm blaming lack of sleep.

 
zxnos 2008-09-14 04:15:31 AM  
dutch architects... ...bless their hearts

/shops are week
//architect
///glorified art student
////mvrdv

 
randomstranger 2008-09-14 04:15:56 AM  
myalias1845: randomstranger: myalias1845: randomstranger: Even if the shiat smelt like roses?

Hmmm...tempting...but my shiat smells like roses as it is. Don't think I need anymore. ;)

It's cool. I normally donate mine to AKWS-SS anyway--American Kids With shiatty-Smelling shiat.

Hey, me too! It's a great tax break.


Yeah, that and the feeling I get when my heart swells to three times its normal size knowing that at this very moment some poor unfortunate child might be sniffing my rose-scented shiat.

 
myalias1845 2008-09-14 04:17:05 AM  
randomstranger: myalias1845: randomstranger: myalias1845: randomstranger: Even if the shiat smelt like roses?

Hmmm...tempting...but my shiat smells like roses as it is. Don't think I need anymore. ;)

It's cool. I normally donate mine to AKWS-SS anyway--American Kids With shiatty-Smelling shiat.

Hey, me too! It's a great tax break.

Yeah, that and the feeling I get when my heart swells to three times its normal size knowing that at this very moment some poor unfortunate child might be sniffing my rose-scented shiat.


You sure that's your heart you're talking about?

 
randomstranger 2008-09-14 04:18:21 AM  
myalias1845: randomstranger: myalias1845: randomstranger: myalias1845: randomstranger: Even if the shiat smelt like roses?

Hmmm...tempting...but my shiat smells like roses as it is. Don't think I need anymore. ;)

It's cool. I normally donate mine to AKWS-SS anyway--American Kids With shiatty-Smelling shiat.

Hey, me too! It's a great tax break.

Yeah, that and the feeling I get when my heart swells to three times its normal size knowing that at this very moment some poor unfortunate child might be sniffing my rose-scented shiat.

You sure that's your heart you're talking about?


Yeah, the cockles of my heart. I mean, what else on my body could possibly grow three times it's normal size?

 
myalias1845 2008-09-14 04:25:03 AM  
randomstranger: myalias1845: randomstranger: myalias1845: randomstranger: myalias1845: randomstranger: Even if the shiat smelt like roses?

Hmmm...tempting...but my shiat smells like roses as it is. Don't think I need anymore. ;)

It's cool. I normally donate mine to AKWS-SS anyway--American Kids With shiatty-Smelling shiat.

Hey, me too! It's a great tax break.

Yeah, that and the feeling I get when my heart swells to three times its normal size knowing that at this very moment some poor unfortunate child might be sniffing my rose-scented shiat.

You sure that's your heart you're talking about?

Yeah, the cockles of my heart. I mean, what else on my body could possibly grow three times it's normal size?


Prostate?

 
T.M.S. [TotalFark] 2008-09-14 04:30:17 AM  
The_Pole_Of_Justice: T.M.S.: Aside from being about the least imaginative photo shops I have ever seen what is there in those images that defies physics?

You could realize anything in those pictures if you wanted to.

Of course, the laws of physics would have nothing to do with actually using those things for their intended purposes...


Which do you find impossible?

 
randomstranger 2008-09-14 04:34:34 AM  
myalias1845: randomstranger: myalias1845: randomstranger: myalias1845: randomstranger: myalias1845: randomstranger: Even if the shiat smelt like roses?

Hmmm...tempting...but my shiat smells like roses as it is. Don't think I need anymore. ;)

It's cool. I normally donate mine to AKWS-SS anyway--American Kids With shiatty-Smelling shiat.

Hey, me too! It's a great tax break.

Yeah, that and the feeling I get when my heart swells to three times its normal size knowing that at this very moment some poor unfortunate child might be sniffing my rose-scented shiat.

You sure that's your heart you're talking about?

Yeah, the cockles of my heart. I mean, what else on my body could possibly grow three times it's normal size?

Prostate?


Dammit. I knew this would happen sooner or later, I just wish it weren't on me when the joke had finally run its course. You win.

/I tried to email ya about the fark party, but it bounced.

 
Arngautr 2008-09-14 04:38:07 AM  
Forgot to correct the G-force number too. (it's 6g)

but here's my work if you want to correct me feel free. I'm going to bed.

vf^2/r = g
vf^2 = gr

1/2*mvf^2 + 2mgr = 1/2*mv0^2
vf^2 + 4gr = v0^2

thus
5gr = v0^2
and finally...
v0 = sqrt(5gr)

So I guess that means a 6g initial acceleration regardless of radius.

Though it's all highly idealized for hotwheels like cars and probably doesn't apply very well to real ones.

 
myalias1845 2008-09-14 04:40:54 AM  
randomstranger:

/I tried to email ya about the fark party, but it bounced.


Don't know why. Try the one from my website.

 
rawkus 2008-09-14 04:41:41 AM  
*insert joke about architects never knowing the laws of physics in the first place here*

job hint- if you're going to work for an architect, try and find one who has actually worked in construction. they will design buildings that will look good and work without too much tweaking, and the engineers won't have as many hissy fits.

/loves working in the architecture field
//would hate to be an engineer and have to make that shiat work
///never worked for a full-on design/build firm though. anyone with experience in that mode of operation?

 
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