Yeah. I'm sure Revolution 9 prolly wouldn't have made it on an album if they were drug-free.

I'm sure I would have never heard them the way I did without drugs.

Well, since subby used the "Unlikely" tag, he saved himself a flaming....


Listen to anything after (and including) "Revolver" and the question doesn't he need to be asked


"Tomorrow never knows" from '66 to wit:

Turn off your mind, relax
and float down stream
It is not dying
It is not dying

Lay down all thought
Surrender to the void
It is shining
It is shining

That you may see
The meaning of within
It is being
It is being

That love is all
And love is everyone
It is knowing
It is knowing

That ignorance and hate
May mourn the dead
It is believing
It is believing

But listen to the
color of your dreams
It is not living
It is not living

Or play the game
existence to the end
Of the beginning
Of the beginning
Of the beginning
Of the beginning
Of the beginning
Of the beginning



-does THIS really need to be debated?????

No. Next question.

No, they probably all would have given up on the whole music business early on, gotten nice haircuts and well paying jobs.

They don't sound much different when I take drugs. Wait, what was the question?

HappyHarryHardOn Yep that's a Beatles song for sure. Half of it is repetition.

Na na na na na na na
Na na na
Hey Jude

Na na na na na na na
Na na na
Hey Jude

Na na na na na na na
Na na na
Hey Jude

Na na na na na na na
Na na na
Hey Jude

Na na na na na na na
Na na na
Hey Jude

Na na na na na na na
Na na na
Hey Jude

Na na na na na na na
Na na na
Hey Jude

Na na na na na na na
Na na na
Hey Jude

Na na na na na na na
Na na na
Hey Jude

Na na na na na na na
Na na na
Hey Jude

Na na na na na na na
Na na na
Hey Jude

Na na na na na na na
Na na na
Hey Jude

Na na na na na na na
Na na na
Hey Jude

Na na na na na na na
Na na na
Hey Jude

Na na na na na na na
Na na na
Hey Jude

If they'd never taken drugs their fans may not have taken drugs, then they wouldn't have sounded the same to the audience.

I came in here to...ah screw it. My work is done here.

No. Next question.

HappyHarryHardOn: "Tomorrow never knows" from '66 to wit:

Really, that's the only Beatles song I really like. I grew up having pre-acid beatles shoved into my ears by my mother (I seethe with rage if I hear paperback writer), but I never really took to the white album, or rubber sole. (although the funky drumming reprise of Sgt. Pepps is pretty kewl...)

But Tommorrow never knows? Fantastic song.


eqtworld: I take drugs, and I still sound exactly the same

I take your drugs, and you still sound the same, too.

/You're out of ether

Cagey B: No. Next question.

Damn you!

Forty-Two: Cagey B: No. Next question.

Damn you!

We are actually the same person. Except we took drugs, and now don't realize it.

HappyHarryHardOn: Listen to anything after (and including) "Revolver" and the question doesn't he need to be asked.

Go back one more. Rubber Soul is where it really started.

Kliffoth: HappyHarryHardOn Yep that's a Beatles song for sure. Half of it is repetition.

Na na na na na na na
Na na na
Hey Jude

Na na na na (ad nauseum)



Damn you.... you take my dopey stoner lyric and raise the bar to the 100th level...

uhm.... Raise you with blatant obviousness, instead of mind-numbing drug repetition:



"Mm, I get high with a little help from my friends
Mm,Gonna try with a little help from my friends

Do you need anybody
I need somebody to love"


NOW, you needed some good dope to shiat out that kind of naive hippy nonsense
Not only is it spirit-crushingly drug-addled, it doesnt even come from one of the talented Beatle

(just kidding, Ringo is the awesome.... he does the best he can with what he has)

No Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds no Beatles.

CheddarPants: HappyHarryHardOn: Listen to anything after (and including) "Revolver" and the question doesn't he need to be asked.

Go back one more. Rubber Soul is where it really started.

Its true, they started drugs around that time, but it's still kind of a straight album, still... the most psychedelic on this is "norvegian woods" , i find the weirdness started happening, and took it to another level musically at the end of "revolver" . as a closer for the album, at that date in time, it was the hugest WTF in pop

The possible reasons why cannabis didn't cause psychosis in the FabFourincludethe relativeweaknessofthedrug,comparedtothe hyper-strength "skunk" smoked nowadays,

Pure unadulterated bullshiat. It is physiologically impossible to 'overdose' on cannabis. Even if today's cannabis WERE 'more powerful' (a specious unverifiable claim at best) the only thing that would happen to you if you took too much was that you'd pass out for a couple hours and wake up feeling slightly dehydrated and probably hungry. There has NEVER been a single scientifically verified incident of cannabis causing a psychotic break.

Never.

Because the drug itself *cannot* affect the human brain that way. it's chemically impossible.

Weaver95: The possible reasons why cannabis didn't cause psychosis in the FabFourincludethe relativeweaknessofthedrug,comparedtothe hyper-strength "skunk" smoked nowadays,

Pure unadulterated bullshiat. It is physiologically impossible to 'overdose' on cannabis. Even if today's cannabis WERE 'more powerful' (a specious unverifiable claim at best) the only thing that would happen to you if you took too much was that you'd pass out for a couple hours and wake up feeling slightly dehydrated and probably hungry. There has NEVER been a single scientifically verified incident of cannabis causing a psychotic break.

Never.

Because the drug itself *cannot* affect the human brain that way. it's chemically impossible.

You can sort of "overdose" on it: you can end up with extreme dizziness, projectile vomiting, the inability to walk home and eventually pass out, for example, if you ingest too much.

Moderation in all things, my friends.

Weaver95:It is physiologically impossible to 'overdose' on cannabis.

...but then there's vicodin.

/good luck with the stone.

bobbette: Weaver95: The possible reasons why cannabis didn't cause psychosis in the FabFourincludethe relativeweaknessofthedrug,comparedtothe hyper-strength "skunk" smoked nowadays,

Pure unadulterated bullshiat. It is physiologically impossible to 'overdose' on cannabis. Even if today's cannabis WERE 'more powerful' (a specious unverifiable claim at best) the only thing that would happen to you if you took too much was that you'd pass out for a couple hours and wake up feeling slightly dehydrated and probably hungry. There has NEVER been a single scientifically verified incident of cannabis causing a psychotic break.

Never.

Because the drug itself *cannot* affect the human brain that way. it's chemically impossible.

You can sort of "overdose" on it: you can end up with extreme dizziness, projectile vomiting, the inability to walk home and eventually pass out, for example, if you ingest too much.

Moderation in all things, my friends.

No you can't. I have smoked REDICULOUS amounts of EXTREMELY potent strains of Cannibus in one sitting and I never experienced the symptoms you're describing.

Weaver95: The possible reasons why cannabis didn't cause psychosis in the FabFourincludethe relativeweaknessofthedrug,comparedtothe hyper-strength "skunk" smoked nowadays,

Pure unadulterated bullshiat. It is physiologically impossible to 'overdose' on cannabis. Even if today's cannabis WERE 'more powerful' (a specious unverifiable claim at best) the only thing that would happen to you if you took too much was that you'd pass out for a couple hours and wake up feeling slightly dehydrated and probably hungry. There has NEVER been a single scientifically verified incident of cannabis causing a psychotic break.

Never.

Because the drug itself *cannot* affect the human brain that way. it's chemically impossible.

Low to moderate use may not have that effect, but high usage over time can case psychotic incidents in a small proportion of users. Whether they would eventually have had problems anyway is the big question.

/And yes, I personally know someone

Kliffoth: bobbette: Weaver95: The possible reasons why cannabis didn't cause psychosis in the FabFourincludethe relativeweaknessofthedrug,comparedtothe hyper-strength "skunk" smoked nowadays,

Pure unadulterated bullshiat. It is physiologically impossible to 'overdose' on cannabis. Even if today's cannabis WERE 'more powerful' (a specious unverifiable claim at best) the only thing that would happen to you if you took too much was that you'd pass out for a couple hours and wake up feeling slightly dehydrated and probably hungry. There has NEVER been a single scientifically verified incident of cannabis causing a psychotic break.

Never.

Because the drug itself *cannot* affect the human brain that way. it's chemically impossible.

You can sort of "overdose" on it: you can end up with extreme dizziness, projectile vomiting, the inability to walk home and eventually pass out, for example, if you ingest too much.

Moderation in all things, my friends.

No you can't. I have smoked REDICULOUS amounts of EXTREMELY potent strains of Cannibus in one sitting and I never experienced the symptoms you're describing.

Reading comprehension. Ingested, not smoked.

mekkab: Really, that's the only Beatles song I really like. I grew up having pre-acid beatles shoved into my ears by my mother (I seethe with rage if I hear paperback writer), but I never really took to the white album, or rubber sole. (although the funky drumming reprise of Sgt. Pepps is pretty kewl...)

But Tommorrow never knows? Fantastic song.

my dad listened to early Beatles almost non-stop. I really never wanted to here another Beatles track ever again until I heard Tomorrow Never Knows. fark, could you imagine the biggest band in the world today (probably The Jonas Brothers... sigh) doing something as completely off-the-wall and groundbreaking as that one track?

Bobbette

I've 'ingested' much of it as well. Never had a problem.

Without dope, The Beatles would've been The Monkees.

FeedTheCollapse: mekkab: Really, that's the only Beatles song I really like. I grew up having pre-acid beatles shoved into my ears by my mother (I seethe with rage if I hear paperback writer), but I never really took to the white album, or rubber sole. (although the funky drumming reprise of Sgt. Pepps is pretty kewl...)

But Tommorrow never knows? Fantastic song.

my dad listened to early Beatles almost non-stop. I really never wanted to here another Beatles track ever again until I heard Tomorrow Never Knows. fark, could you imagine the biggest band in the world today (probably The Jonas Brothers... sigh) doing something as completely off-the-wall and groundbreaking as that one track?

You keep going around comparing the Beatles to the Jonas Brothers and you're gonna have some problems on your hands, dude.

Like regular old pop garbage. Them taking that step into more underground experimental music really changed music forever, and if they hadn't done that they would be on the same level as the Temptations (still a really good level to be at), but certainly not THE BEATLES. Them doing that gave them the mythical status.

Kliffoth: No you can't. I have smoked REDICULOUS amounts of EXTREMELY potent strains of Cannibus in one sitting and I never experienced the symptoms you're describing.

My first time toking I smoked as much as the stoners I was with, and I ended up profusely sweating and was incredibly nauseous.

I've also puked a couple times from oversmoking.

Still better than acute alcohol poisoning though.

What upsets me is that I just heard a Beatles song that is so popular with the above comments used for a farkin comedy movie!
ghost something?
"Tomorrow never knows" from '66 to wit:

/ trippin balls to the beatles back in the day, now they sell sausage
//my dog likes sausage
///sausage

Kaybeck: Kliffoth: No you can't. I have smoked REDICULOUS amounts of EXTREMELY potent strains of Cannibus in one sitting and I never experienced the symptoms you're describing.

My first time toking I smoked as much as the stoners I was with, and I ended up profusely sweating and was incredibly nauseous.

I've also puked a couple times from oversmoking.

Still better than acute alcohol poisoning though.

Damn, really? That sucks. Not I, nor anyone I've known (and I've known many stoners) has done that. I used to smoke 10-15 bowls of grade A shiat a night with my friend too (yeah I had a bit of a problem). Smoked Purple Kush out of a gravity bong (1 gram hits), no prob. Were you smoking schwag? Sounds like some people just have sensative lungs, it doesn't seem to be directly attributed to the weed though. If that makes sense (been hitting the cognac a little hard tonight, forgive any ambiguities).

The fact that they didn't perish by their own hand while using the drugs in question indicates they were in control of their situation and had some common sense. Look at other equally talented artists (Hendrix, Janis, Morrison) who were unable to keep the demon in check and wound up checking out early.

One must keep control of their lives and moderate their intake of enhancing substances in order to be around long enough to enjoy their success.

qlenfg: The fact that they didn't perish by their own hand while using the drugs in question indicates they were in control of their situation and had some common sense. Look at other equally talented artists (Hendrix, Janis, Morrison) who were unable to keep the demon in check and wound up checking out early.

One must keep control of their lives and moderate their intake of enhancing substances in order to be around long enough to enjoy their success.

I'd have to say Hendrix and Morrison were a bit more talented than The Beatles.

/just saying

If taking drugs makes your band "better", then Iron Maiden is the lamest band in the world.


/Oh, wait, they're not - The Beatles are.
//Anyone who says different can argue with a Music Theory major (I'm in biology) and come out with a new look on life, and the ability to pass a foot-long Subway BMT without chewing.
///I think they're favorite thing in the world to do is argue the 60's psychedelia vs. the 1970's punk movement vs. 1980's heavy/thrash metal vs. 1990's alternative and argue you down to the point that Cyndi Lauper is the single greatest pop singer in history - they have fed you enough bullshiat to kill the bull - but you will still believe it.

/I have three Iron Maiden tattoos, so I'm getting a kick out of the post I just put up.

Jedekai: If taking drugs makes your band "better", then Iron Maiden is the lamest band in the world.


/Oh, wait, they're not - The Beatles are.
//Anyone who says different can argue with a Music Theory major (I'm in biology) and come out with a new look on life, and the ability to pass a foot-long Subway BMT without chewing.
///I think they're favorite thing in the world to do is argue the 60's psychedelia vs. the 1970's punk movement vs. 1980's heavy/thrash metal vs. 1990's alternative and argue you down to the point that Cyndi Lauper is the single greatest pop singer in history - they have fed you enough bullshiat to kill the bull - but you will still believe it.

/I have three Iron Maiden tattoos, so I'm getting a kick out of the post I just put up.

WTF are you saying!!!!??? The Beatles are the greatest band evar!!!!!11 If it weren't for the Beatles your favorite band wouldn't exist!!11 You need to resp....

Seriously my fingers are calling 'bullshiat' and are refusing to type any more of that.

The Beatles are the most overrated band ever.

Kliffoth: The Beatles are the most overrated band ever.

A whole world of this. Seriously, The Kinks were what the Beatles could have been if they didn't fark themselves over and start to buy into their own hype.

Talented? Yeah; but overTHEFARKrated like whoa.

/it's called an opinion so don't bother trying to shout me down.

Jedekai: If taking drugs makes your band "better", then Iron Maiden is the lamest band in the world.
Anyone who says different can argue with a Music Theory major
Any point you were making is negated by the fact that you think it matters what a music theory major says. Unless you were joking, and i dont realize because im really farking tired.

I always thought this series of pictures summed up the Beatles' evolution pretty well:

Overrated in my eyes as well, although their message and contributions to the meaningful causes is respectable.

Jedekai: If taking drugs makes your band "better", then Iron Maiden is the lamest band in the world.


p.

Agreed. Listening to overly complex patterns set to old boring poems like "rhymes of the ancient mariner" was always the last thing I wanted to do stoned.

It's not a question of moderation. If you don't have "it" when you're sober, you don't have "it", and you'll make crap music whether you're sober or not.

The Beatles were brilliant on *or* off drugs.

/loves me some drugs

Weaver95 just made my "bad-ass" list.

I thought that the little "possible reasons why cannabis didn't cause psychosis" comment in the article was going to slide by. I was shocked that something similar to Weaver95's comment wasn't said earlier!

Oh, and add me to the list of people who've experienced dizziness and projectile vomiting from extreme, acute cannabis toxicity. Just once. And no, I wasn't drinking.

Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see.
It's getting hard to be someone but it all works out.
It doesn't matter much to me.

No one I think is in my tree, I mean it must be high or low.
That is you can't you know tune in but it's all right.
That is I think it's not too bad.

Always no sometimes think it's me, but you know I know when it's a dream.
I think I know I mean "Yes," but it's all wrong.
That is I think I disagree.

/possibly acid

"I can dig the 'Na na na na na na na, na na na' but the rest of the lyrics don't make a damned bit of sense to me." -Ringo

/probably

Glenechocreek: I always thought this series of pictures summed up the Beatles' evolution pretty well:

That last one is Yoko, right?

Something to think about: "Sgt. Pepper's" was influenced by Zappa's "Freak Out," which contains plenty of weirdness all its own, and yet was made by someone who eschewed drugs.

Some of the best "psychedelia" has been made without the benefit of mind-affecting substances. Not all of it, of course, but enough to disprove the notion that drugs are a requirement.

/The Flaming Lips are another example, so I've read.

PerfectlyCromulent: You keep going around comparing the Beatles to the Jonas Brothers and you're gonna have some problems on your hands, dude.

I'm not comparing Beatles to Jonas Brothers' in terms of musicianship, but more in terms of popularity. Believe me, it's just as depressing for me.



Where the hell was Biggles: Some of the best "psychedelia" has been made without the benefit of mind-affecting substances. Not all of it, of course, but enough to disprove the notion that drugs are a requirement.

/The Flaming Lips are another example, so I've read.

Flaming Lips probably aren't the best example. they may not be constantly tripped out on acid, but they're not really strangers to the drug. Though I do believe they're all clean now.

...Bill Hicks unavailable for comment.

RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRReal farkin' high.

Jedekai:
Anyone who says different can argue with a Music Theory major (I'm in biology) and come out with a new look on life, and the ability to pass a foot-long Subway BMT without chewing.
///I think they're favorite thing in the world to do is argue the 60's psychedelia vs. the 1970's punk movement vs. 1980's heavy/thrash metal vs. 1990's alternative and argue you down to the point that Cyndi Lauper is the single greatest pop singer in history - they have fed you enough bullshiat to kill the bull - but you will still believe it.

I'm getting my Masters in Music Theory, so I'm really getting a kick out of your reply.

Took a class on the Beatles too. George Martin is largely responsible for the success of the Beatles.
Most recording artists at the time were using two, three or four tracks in the studio, the Beatles began to use linked pairs of four-track decks, and ping-ponging tracks two and three times became common.

But I'm sure the drugs helped. To quote the late, great Bill Hicks:
"If you don't believe drugs have done good things for us, then go home and burn all your records, all your tapes, and all your CDs because every one of those artists who have made brilliant music and enhanced your lives? RrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrEAL farking high on drugs. The Beatles were so farking high they let Ringo sing a few songs."

Somewhere, deep in the realm of acid trips, an eggman and a walrus are getting a kick out of these replies.