Someone just earned themselves a ticket on Ark B.

TV tells me otherwise.

What do you mean?? This is hard-hitting cutting-edge news to Joe Hillbilly Sixpack McCousinfarker.

Oh, those black holes.

A black hole is a place where the force of gravity is so powerful that you would need to be traveling at a speed faster than the speed of light to escape its pull. Since nothing in the universe is faster than the speed of light, nothing that falls into a black hole can ever escape

Begs to differ




/They've gone to plaid!

You'd die the most painful death ever.

I fell in-to a burnin ring of fire;
Went down, down, down with the flames risin' higher.
And it burns burns burns, that ring of fire,
That ring of fire.

/mildly obscure
//less so for teh interfarks

Do not enter a black hole.

Most new cases of HIV and other STDs are found there.

Woah! I almost tripped over a black hole the other day. Thank goodness I didn't fall in!

Kumana Wanalaia: I fell in-to a burnin ring of fire;
Went down, down, down with the flames risin' higher.
And it burns burns burns, that ring of fire,
That ring of fire.

johnny cash isn't obscure.

I thought your soul got fused into the body of your evil robotic killing machine.

Did somebody mention the Black Hole? The Raiders are the only team in the league that have fans that inflict more pain on its opponents than the players do.

/I'm gonna need lots o' beer this season

Starryeyes: Kumana Wanalaia: I fell in-to a burnin ring of fire;
Went down, down, down with the flames risin' higher.
And it burns burns burns, that ring of fire,
That ring of fire.

johnny cash isn't obscure.

At ALL. Bad call, Kumana. :(

Everyone knows you die, nerds like me care about the molecular happenings.

Not even mildly, even the younguns who probably never heard of him before they made a movie about him saw Walk the Line.

Ted Danson did and he's still here.

I'm prety sure that at that acceleration, time would become so distorted that you, falling into the black hole would be able to witness the end of the known universe (in the blink of an eye) before you actually entered, and to the observing universe you would actually appear not to be moving at all for the rest of eternity.

So if a black hole did occur in the hadron collider, would we actually be aware of it?

Nice high horse there subby.

Yes, "you die" is obvious. The exact mechanism of death, including the difference between "falling into" a gigantic one, or a small one? I found that interesting.

improvius

I thought your soul got fused into the body of your evil robotic killing machine.

Leave it to Disney to have a robot-on-man sex scene in a PG-rated movie.

Once you go black, you never come back.

That article was actually more entertaining than I'd thought it would be.

What about time dilation?

If fall into black hole and manage to not get blown away by the radiation storm first, tidal effects will rip you apart and you'll hit the mass as a beam of subatomic particles moving very fast.

Probably hurt like a bizzitch too.

Disagrees:

The LHC is going to kill us all. Send me all your money and women before it's too late.

/EIP

Seacop: A black hole is a place where the force of gravity is so powerful that you would need to be traveling at a speed faster than the speed of light to escape its pull. Since nothing in the universe is faster than the speed of light, nothing that falls into a black hole can ever escape

Begs to differ

AGREES (new window)

GAH! (new window)

The way I understand it....

Which I admit is based more on reading scads of hard science fiction.

If you collide a few hundred particles together and they form a black hole, the total mass and therefore, gravitation of the BH would be equal to the weight of the particles....albeit compressed into an infinitessimally small space.

I cannot imagine that the small bunch of particles would be sufficient to attract more particles and hence more gravitation, thus any black hole formed would not grow to be any larger and may even become entangled with some physically larger but equally as massive particle and be nothing more than an oddity.

Now if you compressed several pounds of matter into a BH using the LHC and the event horizon became larger in radius than the diameter of another particle......well, even then I cannot imagine that the feeble gravitation field of a few pounds of matter would be enough to cause a larger particle to compress itself into the mass....

Starryeyes: Kumana Wanalaia: I fell in-to a burnin ring of fire;
Went down, down, down with the flames risin' higher.
And it burns burns burns, that ring of fire,
That ring of fire.

johnny cash isn't obscure.

No but the TV show called "Space, Above and Beyond" probably is :)

Think that is what it was called at least.

Selector: Starryeyes: Kumana Wanalaia: I fell in-to a burnin ring of fire;
Went down, down, down with the flames risin' higher.
And it burns burns burns, that ring of fire,
That ring of fire.

johnny cash isn't obscure.

At ALL. Bad call, Kumana. :(

There was some Sci-fi show on years ago where one of the space pilots because he got too close to a black hole. Once he realized he couldn't do anything about it, he put some Johnny Cash on his radio.

flup I'm prety sure that at that acceleration, time would become so distorted that you, falling into the black hole would be able to witness the end of the known universe (in the blink of an eye) before you actually entered, and to the observing universe you would actually appear not to be moving at all for the rest of eternity.


I'm fairly sure this paragraph could be applied to a groom at the altar.

archichris: The way I understand it....


All that, plus Hawking radiation means it would emit evaporate before it even got the chance to hit anything else.

I thought the gravity would crush you into nothing, except no one would see it because its so strong it absorbs light.

Devil Rays FTW: Selector: Starryeyes: Kumana Wanalaia: I fell in-to a burnin ring of fire;
Went down, down, down with the flames risin' higher.
And it burns burns burns, that ring of fire,
That ring of fire.

johnny cash isn't obscure.

At ALL. Bad call, Kumana. :(

There was some Sci-fi show on years ago where one of the space pilots because he got too close to a black hole. Once he realized he couldn't do anything about it, he put some Johnny Cash on his radio.

so as it turns out, it was obscure! Ha!

Kumana Wanalaia: I fell in-to a burnin ring of fire;
Went down, down, down with the flames risin' higher.
And it burns burns burns, that ring of fire,
That ring of fire.

/mildly obscure
//less so for teh interfarks

Johnny Cash isn't even REMOTELY obscure. Massive, black hole fail.

This post and thread is RACIST!

....sorry,I'm from Dallas.

zappawizard: There was some Sci-fi show on years ago where one of the space pilots because he got too close to a black hole. Once he realized he couldn't do anything about it, he put some Johnny Cash on his radio.

so as it turns out, it was obscure! Ha!

Except that the pilot (Ray Butts, on "Space: Above and Beyond") was playing "I Walk the Line," not "Ring of Fire."

/Easy as eating pancakes!

JonnyBGoode: Johnny Cash isn't even REMOTELY obscure. Massive, black hole fail.

Posted before you read the whole thread huh?

JonnyBGoode: Kumana Wanalaia: I fell in-to a burnin ring of fire;
Went down, down, down with the flames risin' higher.
And it burns burns burns, that ring of fire,
That ring of fire.

/mildly obscure
//less so for teh interfarks

Johnny Cash isn't even REMOTELY obscure. Massive, black hole fail.

Oh, but it IS. Read above.

The sidebar was more interesting:

Towelhead: It's No Fun Being a Sexually Curious, Biracial Teenager

If you ever drop your keys into a river of molten lava black hole, let 'em go, because, man, they're gone.

archichris: The way I understand it....

Which I admit is based more on reading scads of hard science fiction.

If you collide a few hundred particles together and they form a black hole, the total mass and therefore, gravitation of the BH would be equal to the weight of the particles....albeit compressed into an infinitessimally small space.

I cannot imagine that the small bunch of particles would be sufficient to attract more particles and hence more gravitation, thus any black hole formed would not grow to be any larger and may even become entangled with some physically larger but equally as massive particle and be nothing more than an oddity.

Now if you compressed several pounds of matter into a BH using the LHC and the event horizon became larger in radius than the diameter of another particle......well, even then I cannot imagine that the feeble gravitation field of a few pounds of matter would be enough to cause a larger particle to compress itself into the mass....



But you're forgetting about the anti-mass of tachyon isotopes. Once bombarded with the nougutons that are present under the thin quantum fluxed choclinos, I think it's pretty clear what's going to happen.

Very interesting article...but the article states it all as fact. A lot about black holes are still theories and speculation.

Well since the LHC is working with individual atoms, and it takes googleplex's of atoms to acutaly make enough gravity to create a black hole (sphere...I hate he word hole, as it denotes 2 dimensions), this is a non starter.

So, you don't transform into Galactus when you come out the other side? How disappointing!

flup:

time would become so distorted that you, falling into the black hole would be able to witness the end of the known universe (in the blink of an eye) before you actually entered,

No, you only get to witness a finite amount of the outside universe's history before you die, just like anybody else. More here.

Why do the conspiracy minded types worry that the big scary collider would create a black hole? It seems silly on the face of it. As far as I know there is no mechanism by which this could occur.

Will Jesus be able to give resurrected bodies to Christians whose corporeal bodies are in black holes?

Approves (not a RR)

Counter_Intelligent: Will Jesus be able to give resurrected bodies to Christians whose corporeal bodies are in black holes?

He can't even get a Green Card. :)

thedarkshadow: Well since the LHC is working with individual atoms, and it takes googleplex's of atoms to acutaly make enough gravity to create a black hole (sphere...I hate he word hole, as it denotes 2 dimensions), this is a non starter.

There aren't a googol atoms in the entire universe, much less a googolplex. Black holes aren't so much a lot of mass, as a very high density of mass. Any amount of mass, compressed tightly enough, becomes a black hole.