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Not me. I'm inland and WAAAYYY above any floodplain.

Survived Andrew, why not?

Here's hoping it does.

Consider it a 'watershed' for unsustainable development practices.

Aren't they mostly empty houses and condos by now anyways?

Florida sucks.

dogfat: Survived Andrew, why not?

If that thing had hit 20 miles north, it would have been much much worse.

/survived it too.

Miami could build a levee out of sacks of cocaine.

"Florida Anywhere on the coast has spent the last 80 years ignoring its vulnerability, developing its floodplains and shorelines, selling the dream of the Sunshine State ocean front living. But the day of reckoning will come. Hopefully it won't come Tuesday"

Fixed.

>> Florida sucks

As somebody that lived there for 5 years i can say that one of the few objective truths in this world is that Florida sucks.

What idiot came up with the idea that they have an ideal climate.

Sounds like out here in the Midwest and its floodplains.

There's a saying... "There are two kinds of levees: those that have failed and those that will".

Florida is no more 'vulnerable' than anyplace else in the world with a coastline. At least my house is above sea level and I am not stupid enough to refuse to evacuate.

MadCat221: Sounds like out here in the Midwest and its floodplains.

There's a saying... "There are two kinds of levees: those that have failed and those that will".

And then there's the Dutch

So, this is our semiweekly May God Save Us All hurricane article we've seen ever since Katrina, then?

I would gladly pay you Tuesday for a Hamburger today!

All I know is my house is sitting on nine thousand dollars worth of dirt trucked in just for this sort of thing. It damn well better be safe.

I remember strolling one evening in a florida town that is considered to be a prime tourist destination.

Those big nasty cockroaches were scurrying all over the sidewalk.

It's not true that Florida is just as vulnerable as any other place with a coastline. I live in Maine, about 30 minutes from the coast. But since I'm well above sea-level, hurricanes would be nothing more than big rainstorms for me.

Florida has the lowest elevation of any state in the country:
http://geology.com/state-high-points.shtml

And with water on both sides, the hurricanes barely even notice that they are over land as they pass by. It's basically a big sandbar with condominiums.

Florida also happens to be right in the path of the most active hurricane center in the Atlantic.

And the skiing in Maine is much better, too.

for good or for awesome: All I know is my house is sitting on nine thousand dollars worth of dirt trucked in just for this sort of thing. It damn well better be safe.

Mine's 300 metres above sea level and 2,000KM from the Gulf. Bet I'm safer.

Bob16: >> Florida sucks

As somebody that lived there for 5 years i can say that one of the few objective truths in this world is that Florida sucks.

What idiot came up with the idea that they have an ideal climate.

As for someone who has lived in FL (Fort Lauderdale) for 20 years...the summer sucks, however, the winter is ideal. Never gets above 75, rain is minimal comparably speaking to the summer season. At night you can actually dust off that leather jacket for a few days.

But Global Warming is still a liberal myth right?

Unless Ike makes a very drastic turn, FL is not in an significant danger.

And if it does, then so am I.

/lives on the big pink island
//on the beach
///high ground for the whole island is like 80ft.

I like Ike

"Hopefully it won't come Tuesday"

7% of Floridians prefer the alternative mantra, "Come on, rapture!"

>> As for someone who has lived in FL (Fort Lauderdale) for 20 years...the summer sucks, however, the winter is ideal.

Only if you have that irrational fear of winter.

When cold weather becomes a "struggle" you have kinda wimped out on life. Nothing personal. You seem like a nice guy.

I do a lot of hiking up here in the northeast. I like hiking in winter best of all.

_flori-DUH!!!.

karatekitten13: Unless Ike makes a very drastic turn, FL is not in an significant danger.

And if it does, then so am I.

/lives on the big pink island
//on the beach
///high ground for the whole island is like 80ft.

Stay safe. We can use rain in TX. Let it come.

/of course, I am inland

There is a simple solution, but it is extremely difficult to execute.

A levee the entire length of the vulnerable shores, 50 feet high, 400 feet deep, lined with boulders on the ocean side and filled with dredged material from off shore. You would have to build rich people housing and resorts on top of it to pay for it. You could build it about 2500 feet in from the beach and only zone for portable structures on the beach side. Utilities could be buried inside the levee, there could even be an entire emergency services road inside for rushing supplies into the hurricane zone while the storm is still raging.

The country of Dubai is already doing something similar in the persian gulf.

If they can do it so can we.

what they seem to forget is that the rest of the country doesn't care about the retirement home that Florida is. Kinda like the plan the senator pushed through, lowers the insurance rates of the inhabitants of Florida("Huzzah!" say the residents), but he didn't immediately gurantee the rest of the country would bail them out("booooo!" say the residents), and for christ's sake, why would we?

FrizzleFry: Florida is no more 'vulnerable' than anyplace else in the world with a coastline. At least my house is above sea level and I am not stupid enough to refuse to evacuate.

What was the last hurricane's name to hit Malibu, California?

Anyone else think that this story and the one below it concerning Fannie and Freddie are not totally unrelated? Nothing like Lloyd's of London paying off the US Gov'ts debt.

the day of reckoning will come. Hopefully it won't come Tuesday


blow it to the left;
flood it to the right
speed up, get rough

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!

goooooooooo NATURE!

Bob16 Quote 2008-09-07 01:05:36 PM
I remember strolling one evening in a florida town that is considered to be a prime tourist destination.

Those big nasty cockroaches were scurrying all over the sidewalk.

Yep, it's the tropics. They live out there, in the trees.

archichris: The country of Dubai is already doing something similar in the persian gulf.

If they can do it so can we.

Dubai is not a country.

That's why Crist and just about every other Florida politician is pushing for a national catastrophe insurance fund, which would shift some of that risk to federal taxpayers. But the idea is not so popular with other states, for the obvious reason that other states don't have as much risk.

No F*ing way that will fly.

jackbooty: "Florida Anywhere on the coast has spent the last 80 years ignoring its vulnerability, developing its floodplains and shorelines, selling the dream of the Sunshine State ocean front living. But the day of reckoning will come. Hopefully it won't come Tuesday"

Fixed.

DING DING DING...we have a winner. Step up sir and collect your reward!!

>> what they seem to forget is that the rest of the country doesn't care about the retirement home that Florida is.

It's more accurate to say that america doesn't care period.

30 years of the raygun greed ethic was best summed up in a simpsons episode when Rev. Lovejoy said...

"Finally i just stopped caring. Fortunately by then it was the 80's so nobody noticed."

BorgHunter: archichris: The country of Dubai is already doing something similar in the persian gulf.

If they can do it so can we.

Dubai is not a country.

oooh yea.

fact pwnage is my favorite type.

Ha ha ha....suck it, Florida and the Caribbeano!

Sincerely,
Ike and Dick

Every time a hurricane damages my house, the insurance company buys me new stuff. Bring it on.

open wide

here comes the money shot

That's okay if it hits. The rest of us will dig into our wallets with our tax dollars once again and buy you yet another new house below the floodplain on the beach so you can enjoy your ocean view once again.

Most of south Florida sits less than six feet above average, winter, low tide line. Seawater expands in volume during summer. Four foot high tides are normal. Add a couple feet of storm surge, and you've got the peninsula awash.

It will happen.
But this is not new news, it's just studiously ignored news.

>> Every time a hurricane damages my house, the insurance company buys me new stuff. Bring it on.

And i assume your paying the same for home insurance that you paid 10 years ago NOT.

In February 1953 the Netherlands faced disaster when the dikes protecting the southwest of the country were breached by the joint onslaught of a hurricane-force northwesterly wind and exceptionally high spring tides. The flood came in the night without warning, a fateful combination of freak high tides and gale-force winds that killed 1,835 people. Almost 200,000 hectares of land was swamped, 3,000 homes and 300 farms destroyed, and 47,000 heads of cattle drowned. It was The Netherlands' worst disaster for 300 years.


/Did I tell ya'll the one about the Dutch boy who stuck his finger in a dyke?

If the NOAA's path posted by karatekitten13 turns out to be accurate, we may owe Cuba a thank you note.

It looks like they're going to get hammered, and the storm will weaken by quite a bit in the process.

"Ah, Florida. Sunshine, sunshine, perpetual sunshine. (Let's get the bidding started before we get a tornado.)"

Bob16: I remember strolling one evening in a florida town that is considered to be a prime tourist destination.

Those big nasty cockroaches were scurrying all over the sidewalk.

I understand that you don't care for tourists but calling them cockroaches is hardly fair.

sorhed: MadCat221: Sounds like out here in the Midwest and its floodplains.

There's a saying... "There are two kinds of levees: those that have failed and those that will".

And then there's the Dutch

thatmanfromtexas: In February 1953 the Netherlands faced disaster when the dikes protecting the southwest of the country were breached by the joint onslaught of a hurricane-force northwesterly wind and exceptionally high spring tides. The flood came in the night without warning, a fateful combination of freak high tides and gale-force winds that killed 1,835 people. Almost 200,000 hectares of land was swamped, 3,000 homes and 300 farms destroyed, and 47,000 heads of cattle drowned. It was The Netherlands' worst disaster for 300 years.


/Did I tell ya'll the one about the Dutch boy who stuck his finger in a dyke?

I forgot to include the referenced quote. My Bad.