Still looks like he was fired for doing his job, which is a shiatty thing to do.

Oh, well that makes it OK then.

Approves

/hotlinked like a Cajun breakfast

That's even worse. Obstruction of Justice.

Shrew2u: Approves

/hotlinked like a Cajun breakfast


Heh...

"Ima gunna be vice- presidunt!"

That'll learn 'em.

Well, that's OK then. After all, no White House has ever been bothered by law enforcement doing its job, so there's no chance this risk will arise arise again.

**Cough**Archibald Cox**Cough**

No moose burgers for you!

You know, the O'Reilly comparisons between the Palin family and the Spears family are becoming quite clear.

Such a good mother, not entrusting her infant to a carseat like that. Of course, you can't get the baby in the picture if you do.

Oh i see.

He should have ticketed her and impounded her car.

Asa Phelps: Oh i see.

He should have ticketed tasered her and impounded her car.

There.

Hahaha... that's much better.

I love how she keeps coming up with ways to cover her scandals and "scandals" with something a bit worse than what was originally being said.

"Oh, they're saying my baby is really my daughter's? Well, I'll tell them she's really knocked up now! That'll learn them!" [Never mind how ridiculous the whole original story was]

"Oh, they're saying I fired the chief of police because he wouldn't fire my abusive ex-brother in law? Well, I'll tell them he had the nerve to ticket me! That'll learn them!" [Both are bad, but the fact that she is so brazen about being above the law and will abuse her power to assure she stays that way is worse.]

High five, lady. Obama and Biden don't have to say a word about you, you just dig your own holes for them.

Good thing these new GOP folks are cutting ties with the corruption of the current White House occupants.

Wheres that "Liberal Media" John McCain doughnuts picture when you need it? What a nice article about the Palin family.... Apparently since the "First Dude" is so involved in the whole affair, maybe he needs to be vetted some too.

serpent_sky: "Oh, they're saying I fired the chief of police because he wouldn't fire my abusive ex-brother in law? Well, I'll tell them he had the nerve to ticket me! That'll learn them!" [Both are bad, but the fact that she is so brazen about being above the law and will abuse her power to assure she stays that way is worse.]

You do realize you are confusing two separate incidents? The police chief she fired was the political crony of the corrupt mayor she was first elected to replace in Wasilla. It is a public safety commissioner involved in the whole troopergate kerfuffle.

This is what happens when people get all their information from the crooks and their friends that were kicked out of power when Sarah Palin was elected. John McCain didn't just pick a political landmine for his detractors to step on, he went out and found a farking Bouncing Betty.

Absolutely hilarious.

DandamanFL: This is what happens when people get all their information from the crooks and their friends that were kicked out of power when Sarah Palin was elected. John McCain didn't just pick a political landmine for his detractors to step on, he went out and found a farking Bouncing Betty.

Absolutely hilarious.

Dizzy?

Husband Todd, a celebrity in his own right as a champion snowmobile racer before becoming known as "First Dude," confers with Cabinet officials and is copied on the governor's e-mails.

seriously?

Obdicut: DandamanFL: This is what happens when people get all their information from the crooks and their friends that were kicked out of power when Sarah Palin was elected. John McCain didn't just pick a political landmine for his detractors to step on, he went out and found a farking Bouncing Betty.

Absolutely hilarious.

Dizzy?

Not at all, it just pays to look for information that has been researched and is provided with supporting documentation.

*****

While it is no secret that I am an admirer of Palin and have been for months since I started examining her record when her name appeared on a list of possible VP choices. It is also no secret that I am a VERY strident supporter of free speech and conscience and I bear scars from several battles standing up for those ideals. Rest assured if I become convinced that Palin is a would be book banner I will not be afraid to say so. Period.

So far the two sources of this story are the former Mayor of Wasilla, John Stien, who lost a series of bitter campaigns against Palin. This same former mayor tried to get Palin recalled and lost. Palin then won reelection by landslide. Palin did more than merely defeat this man, she smoked him repeatedly and as a result it is likely that he was humiliated. After reading this man's statements online, its safe to say that for him it is personal.

The other source is just a citizen in Wasilla who is a rather strident, partisan leftist named Anne Kilkenny. After seeing what this person has written (see link below) there seems little doubt of this and that its personal. Many of the statements she has made about Palin are half truths and obviously unfair when the facts are examined. I will be posting this stuff in detail as this post gets updated.

The only two people who are saying they heard Palin ask this are the two aforementioned people. The librarian was an active supporter of the former Mayor (John Stien) who Palin vanquished in the election. Now this does not automatically mean that these people are lying or not giving us the whole truth, but it does raise the standard of proof some and cause one to be cautious.

What have I found so far (and keep checking back as I will be posting the documents for the next several hours) is that when a book is challenged in the Wasilla Library there is a procedure for review of that title and that title stays on the shelf during that procedure and a title may only be challenged once every 12 months.

The allegation is that Palin moved to fire the Wasilla Librarian because she would not ban books.

Tangent analysis:

Now let us get one thing clear, any wise mayor who is new blood would be wise to start replacing anyone who shows a residue of bureaucratic resistance that serves at the pleasure of the mayor. Why? It is not unusual for city employees to resist an elected officials plans, it is not unusual for such employees to funnel documents to opposition, to undermine projects, start rumors, interfere with contracts, and politic against that mayor while on the city payroll. The Anchorage Daily News (see link below) says that Palin fired a number of people when she took office.

Palin's record shows that she unusually pit-bullish on eliminating bureaucratic resistance and has shown no fear of going after people in her own party. If McCain/Palin is elected you can expect to see firings of federal employees. Those fired will fight and sue and the press will have a field day with it, so expect it. Every one of those fired employees will have a "Sarah is corrupt" story. Having studied Palin I am coming to the conclusion that she plays hardball, smash-mouth politics better than anyone I have ever studied since LBJ and maybe even better.

"It's what former journalist Bill McAllister, who now works for Palin's press staff, used to call "Sarah-dipity" - that uncanny gift of knowing exactly what voters are looking for at a particular moment. And, of course, the political will to give them what they want." - Time Magazine

Democrats should fear her, but Republicans should fear her more.

the fact that she dismissed the complaint for not strapping in her infant son Trig is one thing, but taking the baby with you on a tour of a prison farm? WTF? She couldn't find any other kid to take with her for the tour?

And I had a odd thought here, Lookingat the part where her husband gets copies of her emails as Gov would that routine continue if she goes to White House? Really? That's legal?

Sarah Palin: An American Woman

The important thing is, she has a vagina and she hunts moose.

DandamanFL: Not at all, it just pays to look for information that has been researched and is provided with supporting documentation.

I'm really confused as to why you posted all that. It makes her look significantly worse.

DandamanFL,

Would you be disconcerted if, in fact, Todd Palin was cc'd on one or more executive email communications? If so, why? If not, why not?

Why didn't they just stick to the "he was a bad guy and most people would've fired him in that position too"?

I liked that line of reasoning.

Sarah Palin: Risking the life of her expendable handicapped child/prop while promoting family values.

Childsafetyseatgate!!

Dear America,

Stop adding the suffix -gate to anything. It's stupid.

Signed,

Canadian Canuck

DandamanFL: serpent_sky: "Oh, they're saying I fired the chief of police because he wouldn't fire my abusive ex-brother in law? Well, I'll tell them he had the nerve to ticket me! That'll learn them!" [Both are bad, but the fact that she is so brazen about being above the law and will abuse her power to assure she stays that way is worse.]

You do realize you are confusing two separate incidents? The police chief she fired was the political crony of the corrupt mayor she was first elected to replace in Wasilla. It is a public safety commissioner involved in the whole troopergate kerfuffle.

Clarification: Serpent_sky got the title of office wrong, but the same person was involved in both incidents mentioned. Monegan was the Public Safety Commissioner who a) warned Palin about he unrestrained infant complaint AND b) refused to fire Wooten despite pressure by Palin's staff.

Obdicut: DandamanFL: Not at all, it just pays to look for information that has been researched and is provided with supporting documentation.

I'm really confused as to why you posted all that. It makes her look significantly worse.

Because I feel it is a more realistic view of the facts. Why do you assume I support McCain/Palin? As admirable as I find Sarah Palin she is still running behind John McCain -- that makes the ticket thoroughly unacceptable [though I did have the naughty thought if they were elected perhaps McCain would be first Pres impeached on info provided by the veep]. I reject Obama for numerous reasons. 20+ years worshiping with Rev Wright and he never knew the message? Oprah knew he was a nutjob in the mid 90s, Obama gave him over $27,000 in 2005-6. And what kind of "Change" is Joe Biden?

Nope, I stick by my belief that they are flip sides of the same cheap coin and Americans deserve more than being told it is either A or B. I like Sarah Palin...I'm voting 3rd party. And so including what I did was just because it is all part of the picture - not something slanted one way or another to get her elected/not-elected.

/plus I live for the blabber and snark

Canadian Canuck: Dear America,

Stop adding the suffix -gate to anything. It's stupid.

Signed,

Canadian Canuck

Gategate!!

DandamanFL

Okay, what you just posted now makes absolutely no sense. It has nothing to do with the issue, and it's the limpest kind of cheerleading.

If you feel it's a more realistic view of the response to posit that Palin is a "smashmouth" politician who constantly views other government employees who oppose her as betrayers who need to be purged, then I have no problem with you posting that repeatedly. I'm not quite sure, however, you'll find it's received in the spirit in which it's offered.

DandamanFL: Nope, I stick by my belief that they are flip sides of the same cheap coin and Americans deserve more than being told it is either A or B. I like Sarah Palin...I'm voting 3rd party. And so including what I did was just because it is all part of the picture - not something slanted one way or another to get her elected/not-elected.

Depending on your state of residence, a vote for a 3rd party candidate *is* a vote for Obama. So, if you live in a pink, red or purple state - thank you!

/Say it with me, Georgia residents:
//Bob Barr 2008!

So she's driving her infant around with no car seat? Is this the same kid she was preggers with when she got on that airplane ride with after her waters broke? Why does Sarah Palin hate babies?

DandamanFL: 20+ years worshiping with Rev Wright and he never knew the message?

Have you read the shiat Palin's pastor spewed?

On July 20, 2008, the pastor of Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin's home church, Larry Kroon, delivered a sermon called "Sin Is Personal To God." Kroon, the senior pastor of the non-denominational Wasilla Bible Church in Wasilla, Alaska, used the book of Zephanaiah as his reference point for discussing "that great day of the Lord when God will finally bring closure to human history... a day of wrath." According to Kroon, "all things and all people" are going to bear the brunt of God's "intense anger." "There's anger with God," he proclaimed. "He takes sin personal."

Kroon placed Zephaniah in a modern context, warning that the sinful habits of Americans would invite the wrath of God. "And if Zephaniah were here today," Kroon bellowed, "he'd be saying, 'Listen, [God] is gonna deal with all the inhabitants of the earth. He is gonna strike out His hand against, yes, Wasilla; and Alaska; and the United States of America. There's no exceptions here - there's none. It's all.'"

Obdicut: DandamanFL

Okay, what you just posted now makes absolutely no sense. It has nothing to do with the issue, and it's the limpest kind of cheerleading.

If you feel it's a more realistic view of the response to posit that Palin is a "smashmouth" politician who constantly views other government employees who oppose her as betrayers who need to be purged, then I have no problem with you posting that repeatedly. I'm not quite sure, however, you'll find it's received in the spirit in which it's offered.

Well that makes it sound like you are a fan of partisan politics, big government and the status quo two-party fiasco we have. Evil twins that both claim their shiat doesn't stink - but they have the system locked up.

Sarah Palin: Showing a lack of concern for the safety of her handicapped son since 48 hours before he was born.

DandamanFL: I reject Obama for numerous reasons. 20+ years worshiping with Rev Wright and he never knew the message?

Do you actually know what Rev. Wright's message was or are you just reacting to what Fox News told you it was? I assume you are intimately familiar with the writings and context of James Cone and other black liberation theologians? I further assume you have listened to the damning quotes played on TV in their full context?

DamnYankees: DandamanFL: 20+ years worshiping with Rev Wright and he never knew the message?

Have you read the shiat Palin's pastor spewed?

On July 20, 2008, the pastor of Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin's home church, Larry Kroon, delivered a sermon called "Sin Is Personal To God." Kroon, the senior pastor of the non-denominational Wasilla Bible Church in Wasilla, Alaska, used the book of Zephanaiah as his reference point for discussing "that great day of the Lord when God will finally bring closure to human history... a day of wrath." According to Kroon, "all things and all people" are going to bear the brunt of God's "intense anger." "There's anger with God," he proclaimed. "He takes sin personal."

Kroon placed Zephaniah in a modern context, warning that the sinful habits of Americans would invite the wrath of God. "And if Zephaniah were here today," Kroon bellowed, "he'd be saying, 'Listen, [God] is gonna deal with all the inhabitants of the earth. He is gonna strike out His hand against, yes, Wasilla; and Alaska; and the United States of America. There's no exceptions here - there's none. It's all.'"

And Palin has proof-positive that she does not inject her religion into her public position. Palin feels just as strongly about the state [and possibly national] constitutions she has sworn to protect and uphold as she does about her religious beliefs. Obama only sees Rev Wright as a liability when the rest of the country finds out about him and then kicks him to the curb.

Canadian Canuck: Stop adding the suffix -gate to anything. It's stupid.

I completely agree. -gate isn't a suffix meaning scandal. The Watergate was a hotel. Now it is being turned into condominiums with a completely different name. I say we retire the -gate thing once the Watergate is no more.

/I actually own a bunch of silver flatware and coffee cups (which say Watergate) from the Watergate's clearance/going out of business free-for-all.

DandamanFL: And Palin has proof-positive that she does not inject her religion into her public position. Palin feels just as strongly about the state [and possibly national] constitutions she has sworn to protect and uphold as she does about her religious beliefs. Obama only sees Rev Wright as a liability when the rest of the country finds out about him and then kicks him to the curb.

HAHA.

Love it. For a second there I thought you were actually interesting in a discussion.

mcwebe0: DandamanFL: I reject Obama for numerous reasons. 20+ years worshiping with Rev Wright and he never knew the message?

Do you actually know what Rev. Wright's message was or are you just reacting to what Fox News told you it was? I assume you are intimately familiar with the writings and context of James Cone and other black liberation theologians? I further assume you have listened to the damning quotes played on TV in their full context?

Nope, I'll believe Obama about that:
"Had the reverend not retired and had he not acknowledged that what he had said had deeply offended people and were inappropriate and mischaracterized what I believe is the greatness of this country, for all its flaws, then I wouldn't have felt comfortable staying there at the church," the senator said.

Now of course Obama gave him $27,000 in 2005-6 and Wright didn't retire until 2008. Plus Oprah cut ties in the mid-90s over these views...why did Obama stick around?

DandamanFL: Obama only sees Rev Wright as a liability when the rest of the country finds out about him and then kicks him to the curb.

You're an idiot. Obama stood by him (but not his statements) and forgave him (like a good Christian), but Wright went in front of the public and made an ass of himself again and again, so Obama left Wright's congregation and joined another.

Hypocrites like you bash Obama for "kicking Wright to the curb," but you'd be whining even more if he had stayed in his church.

You are a dishonest sack of shiat.

Lionel Mandrake: DandamanFL: Obama only sees Rev Wright as a liability when the rest of the country finds out about him and then kicks him to the curb.

You're an idiot. Obama stood by him (but not his statements) and forgave him (like a good Christian), but Wright went in front of the public and made an ass of himself again and again, so Obama left Wright's congregation and joined another.

Hypocrites like you bash Obama for "kicking Wright to the curb," but you'd be whining even more if he had stayed in his church.

You are a dishonest sack of shiat.

Project much? It is no one but Obama's fault he was in a position to choose between two poor choices. Oprah knew in the mid-90s...why didn't Obama know until 2008? If he had left when Oprah did, the disassociation would be more believable.

Has the Republican message finally become "Why can't we all be more like Oprah?"

DandamanFL: Lionel Mandrake: DandamanFL: Obama only sees Rev Wright as a liability when the rest of the country finds out about him and then kicks him to the curb.

You're an idiot. Obama stood by him (but not his statements) and forgave him (like a good Christian), but Wright went in front of the public and made an ass of himself again and again, so Obama left Wright's congregation and joined another.

Hypocrites like you bash Obama for "kicking Wright to the curb," but you'd be whining even more if he had stayed in his church.

You are a dishonest sack of shiat.

Project much? It is no one but Obama's fault he was in a position to choose between two poor choices. Oprah knew in the mid-90s...why didn't Obama know until 2008? If he had left when Oprah did, the disassociation would be more believable.

If you think he should have cut the ties sooner, fine. But stop the "he kicked him to the curb" BS when he finally did. It only shows that you are standing by to criticize Obama for whatever decision he makes, and aren't really standing on any sort of principle.

Lionel Mandrake: If you think he should have cut the ties sooner, fine. But stop the "he kicked him to the curb" BS when he finally did. It only shows that you are standing by to criticize Obama for whatever decision he makes, and aren't really standing on any sort of principle.

It's called "pushing people's buttons" and is a time-honored debate tactic...goad them into reckless and emotional discourse. It's not easy, you need to know when to use "kicked him to the curb" versus "threw him under the bus" and "wharrgarbl" versus "POW POW POW". At least I went to the effort of slipping it into conversation rather than tossing it out as something to stand alone.

So..I'm can't tell from the article or the fark posters..do the Kos-tanistas and other leftists STILL think it's OK for a cop to taser his 10 year old step-son and have open containers of alcohol in his squad car? Just wondering.

DandamanFL: serpent_sky: "Oh, they're saying I fired the chief of police because he wouldn't fire my abusive ex-brother in law? Well, I'll tell them he had the nerve to ticket me! That'll learn them!" [Both are bad, but the fact that she is so brazen about being above the law and will abuse her power to assure she stays that way is worse.]

You do realize you are confusing two separate incidents? The police chief she fired was the political crony of the corrupt mayor she was first elected to replace in Wasilla. It is a public safety commissioner involved in the whole troopergate kerfuffle.

This is what happens when people get all their information from the crooks and their friends that were kicked out of power when Sarah Palin was elected. John McCain didn't just pick a political landmine for his detractors to step on, he went out and found a farking Bouncing Betty.

Absolutely hilarious.

This! Probably the best metaphore I've seen. I think the funniest thing is this article says that a day or so *after* the visit she's told of a complaint that she dismisses as petty; and that's thier proof that *insert evil mafia music* her family is deeply rooted into her political career.

Are we near the point of Monty Pythons Black Knight yet?
Obama Campaign: It's just a flesh wound.
Media: I'll bite your kneecaps off!

The race is definatly up in the air, but this is truly entertaining at this point.

DandamanFL: mcwebe0:
Now of course Obama gave him $27,000 in 2005-6 and Wright didn't retire until 2008. Plus Oprah cut ties in the mid-90s over these views...why did Obama stick around?

Because many religious people stay a part of their church regardless of whether or not they agree with everything. And continue to give money, as well. I remember my mom complaining about the priests at the church we went to when we grew up -- some of their sermons angered her, she disagreed with them, felt they were out of touch. But, all told, it was her church, so she stayed, put money in the collection every week, etc.

I think a lot of people do that. Most people are loyal to their church, whether or not they agree with everything that is said.

/why does Oprah leaving have any relevance whatsoever? Is she now running for office or something?

Well that makes it better.