I've always had a crush on her. She was great in Annie Hall.

Jamerson played the bass line on I Was Made To Love Her.

Carol Kaye's other claim to fame was that she took credit for songs that she never played on.

great clip with her and brian wilson.

Some Bass Playing Guy: Jamerson played the bass line on I Was Made To Love Her.

that is in dispute. jamerson claims it; so does carol kaye.

It was the early 80's when I first remember hearing Good Vibrations (born in '77). It was right then I knew I wanted to play bass.

It just killed me when I heard her make all these claims, essentially trying to steal Jamerson's glory. Here is a decent dissection of the controversy: bassland.net/jamerson (poppity) It's in the middle of the page, if you see the photo of Jamerson's mother, you've gone too far.

FlashHarry: Some Bass Playing Guy: Jamerson played the bass line on I Was Made To Love Her.

that is in dispute. jamerson claims it; so does carol kaye.

Oh, and Jamerson never had a chance to refute these claims by Carol as he died on 8/2/83, a solid 10 years before she laid claim.

It's only in "dispute" because Carol Kaye says so.

Plus it's classic Jamerson in style.

Carol Kaye is a great bass player and her contribution to music and the instrument cannot be denied. She just needs to stop claiming credit for Jamerson's work.

1) 'Mel Thorme'?

2) I'm a pretty big music fan, especially the 60s and 70s and I've
never heard of her until today.

I have heard an awful lot of Kaye vs Jamerson over the years.

I really don't know which story to believe.

I do very much adore the Motown bass sound.(Stax too)

I think the problem is back in those days the session folks were all payed scale and weren't given credit at all on the records. The specific details are now lost forever.

Jamerson sadly drank himself to death a long time ago.

Anyway--I highly recommend the Ampeg B200R bass combo amp.
I play a Fender P-Bass with flatwound strings and can nail the classic "Motown sound" perfectly. Very deep and warm tone. It is the single most superior sounding bass amp I have ever owned. (Gallien Krueger,Peavey,Ashdown couldn't come close)

The question for me is, is she the same Carol Kaye who sung "Shook Outta Shape" in the Ray Dennis Steckler classic (yes, classic) The Incredibly Strange Creatures Who Stopped Living And Became Mixed-Up Zombies?

Bass player oneupmanship is over. Carol Kaye is undefeated and undefeatable.

Never knew she played everything with a pick - go figure. And I used to have such a hangup against plucked bass.

If I understand correctly, Jamerson was all about the fingers, and more correctly the *finger*. Index-only, basically technique transferred directly from upright playing.

craigdamage, the BR200 gets good headroom, then? I may be looking into one soon...

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Personally Taught:
John Clayton (who played elec. bass w/Count Basie in 70s), Charles Meeks Chuck Mangione), Jim Hughart, Reinie Press (Hair), Bill Laymon (David Nelson Band), Tony Sales (Bowie), Roy Vogt, Pat Putter Smith, Alf Clausen (Simpsons TV composer), Morty Corb, Whitey Hogan, Ron Bland, Abe Luboff, Robert Russell, Steve LeFevre, Jeremy Cohen, Arnie Moore, Mike Schnoebelon (Manhattan Transfer), Trey Thompson, Don Bagley, Dave Edelstein, Bob Stone, David Hungate (Toto), Max Bennett, Mitchell Penland, Tom Winker, Dave Dyson, Ray Neapolitan, Pat Senatore, Alison Prestwood, Luther Hughes, Harvey Newmark, Robin Mitchell, Ron Bland, Frank Carroll, Scott Hinkle, Bob Berteaux, Lane Baldwin, Monty Budwig, Richard Maloof (Welk), Bruce Stone, Mike Porcaro, Steve LeFevre, Marco Panascia, 1,000s more.

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Electric bass credits

Songs

* "Good Vibrations" (The Beach Boys)
* "I Think He's Hiding" (Randy Newman)
* "Andmoreagain" (Love)
* "Homeward Bound" (Simon and Garfunkel)
* "California Girls, Sloop John B, Help Me Rhonda, Heroes and Villains" (The Beach Boys)
* "Natural Man" (Lou Rawls)
* "Come Together" (Count Basie)
* "Feelin' Alright" (Joe Cocker)
* "Games People Play" (Mel Tormé)
* "Cantaro" (Gene Ammons)
* "Wait 'Til My Bobby Gets Home" (Darlene Love)
* "Goin' Out Of My Head/Can't Take My Eyes Off You" (The Lettermen)
* "Go Little Honda" (The Hondels)
* "Hikky Burr" (Quincy Jones & Bill Cosby & TV theme)
* "I'm a Believer" (The Monkees)
* "Indian Reservation" (Paul Revere & the Raiders)
* "In the Heat of the Night, I Don't Need No Doctor, America The Beautiful" (Ray Charles)
* "It Must Be Him" (Vikki Carr)
* "Little Green Apples" (O.C. Smith)
* "Midnight Confessions" (The Grass Roots)
* "Mission: Impossible Theme" (Lalo Schifrin)
* "Out of This World" (Nancy Wilson)
* "Wichita Lineman" and "Rhinestone Cowboy" (Glen Campbell)
* "River Deep - Mountain High" (Ike & Tina Turner)
* "Scarborough Fair/Canticle" (Simon and Garfunkel)
* "Sixteen Tons" (Tennessee Ernie Ford)
* "Someday We'll Be Together" (The Supremes)
* "Something Stupid" (Frank and Nancy Sinatra)
* "These Boots Are Made for Walkin'" (Nancy Sinatra)
* "This Diamond Ring" (Gary Lewis & the Playboys)
* "The Twelfth of Never" (Johnny Mathis)
* "The Way We Were" (Barbra Streisand)
* "Understanding" (Ray Charles)
* "Soul & Inspiration" bass, "You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'" guitar (The Righteous Brothers)
* "Suspicious Minds" (Elvis Presley) - some sources & Musicians Union contract
* "Light My Fire" (The Doors) - from her log and Musicians Union contract

Albums

Selected highlights include:

* Pet Sounds (The Beach Boys)
* Songs of Innocence (David Axelrod)
* Songs of Experience (David Axelrod)
* Release Of An Oath (The Electric Prunes)
* Northern Windows (Hampton Hawes)
* Big Man (Cannonball Adderley)
* Reelin' With The Feelin' (Charles Kynard)
* Cameo (Dusty Springfield)
* Hugo In Wonder-land (Hugo Montenegro)
* Your Good Thing (Lou Rawls)
* You've Made Me So Very Happy (Lou Rawls)
* The Funky Organ-ization of Henry Cain (Henry Cain)
* Cosmic Sounds (The Zodiac)
* Pride ({Pride{) (1970)
* Thumbs up ([Ray Pizzi, Carol Kaye, Mitch Holder])(1999)
* "Picking Up On The E-String" Carol Kaye (1995)

Guitar credits

* "Then He Kissed Me" (The Crystals)
* "Danke Schoen" (Wayne Newton)
* "Johnny Angel" (Shelley Fabares)
* "La Bamba" (Ritchie Valens)
* "Let's Dance" (Chris Montez)
* "The Little Old Lady from Pasadena" (Jan and Dean)
* "Needles and Pins" (Jackie DeShannon)
* "Surf City" (Jan and Dean)
* "The Beat Goes On" (Sonny and Cher)
* "You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling" (The Righteous Brothers)
* "The Birds and the Bees" (Jewel Akens), with a Leslie speaker effect

+1 on Jamerson. fark Carol for even sniffing at his work. Her resume is impressive enough without having to claim shiat she didn't play.

MikoSquiz: Bass player oneupmanship is over. Carol Kaye is undefeated and undefeatable.

You've got to be kidding me. Without James Jamerson, there is no Carol Kaye.

Will Continue to Monitor the BR200 gets good headroom, then?

Yes indeed.
It is only a combo with a single 15" and a tweeter but it is 220 watts @ 4ohms. It actually is a total of 220 watts as is and does not require an extension cabinet. The 15" speaker is rated at 4ohm impedance.
Most combos are usually only 8ohms so the Ampeg draws more power.
I was disappointed with some of the Ashdown combos that claimed 307 watts as they are only a total of 307 if you ad another 8ohm cabinet to them.