I like how Randolph and Mortimer are becoming symbols of the American election cycle.

Ahhh yes. Class warfare. The lowest common denominator in politics. People sitting around biatching about the things their neighbor has, doing nothing to attain that level for themselves and looking for someone to take from the neighbor and give it to them.

Ya gotta love it.

Ever want to see how many lower middle class nobodies are going to be rich one day ? Just read up around here, nothing but small business owners on the verge of hitting the big time.

Why is my "begging sled" taxed?

Mordant: Ever want to see how many lower middle class nobodies are going to be rich one day ? Just read up around here, nothing but small business owners on the verge of hitting the big time.

And I would've gotten away with it too, if it weren't for those meddling kids!!

/Mordant, you spying on me?

Since when did fark become wall-to-wall socialist whining?

Please don't ruin Caturday with an Eddie Murphy thread.

Actually the rich get richer while the poor get richer at a slower rate. But we wouldn't want the facts to get in the way of snazzy slogans now would we?

second_sun: Actually the rich get richer while the poor get richer at a slower rate. But we wouldn't want the facts to get in the way of snazzy slogans now would we?

Meanwhile the price of everything from milk to gas to college is soaring, not even close to our salaries.

Jorge Sum: Since when did fark become wall-to-wall socialist whining?

It's clever bait to attract the neo-con moaning.

Works like a charm.

TeddyBallGame: I like how Randolph and Mortimer are becoming symbols of the American election cycle.

Dancin_In_Anson: Ahhh yes. Class warfare. The lowest common denominator in politics. People sitting around biatching about the things their neighbor has, doing nothing to attain that level for themselves and looking for someone to take from the neighbor and give it to them.

Ya gotta love it.

I came here for this. DIA does not disappoint.

Amazing how the people in this country can be spoon fed this crap by people that live in $1 Million McMansions that the rich are evil. I'm looking at you, Barry and John.

/not rich
//doesn't own a business or house
///hates class warfare mongers.

FTA: most middle class Americans believe that people in general control their own destiny.

I was glad to see this.

the rich get richer while the poor get poor is untrue.
the rich do get richer, however the poor having little or nothing to lose can only get richer.


/duck-billed platitude

I hope someday when I get my millions from pulling myself up by my bootstraps and turning my daydreams of owning my own business empire into a soul crushing reality I'll have enough spare time to be on fark on a Saturday morning deriding peasants.

SBinRR: FTA: most middle class Americans believe that people in general control their own destiny.

I was glad to see this.

Shouldn't you be shopping at Wal-Mart?

Perhaps it's because the rich keep doing things that attract wealth, while the poor keep behaving in ways that keep them poor? Becoming wealthy most often requires discipline and hard work. Playing the lottery is not retirement planning!

there are middle class americans with less than a high school education?

-The neo-con ideal is something like what they have in many S. American countries: a few islands of immense wealth in a sea of grinding poverty. The future looks like something like a cross between Oliver Twist and Blade Runner...

SBinRR: FTA: most middle class Americans believe that people in general control their own destiny.

I was glad to see this.

But why can't I control my own density?

Inyego: Perhaps it's because the rich keep doing things that attract wealth, while the poor keep behaving in ways that keep them poor? Becoming wealthy most often requires discipline and hard work. Playing the lottery is not retirement planning!

Whoa, now. Calm down there, buckaroo. You're making too much sense to post around these parts.

Ed Finnerty: SBinRR: FTA: most middle class Americans believe that people in general control their own destiny.

I was glad to see this.

Shouldn't you be shopping at Wal-Mart?

Um, could be the lack of coffee, or maybe I'm just a dimwit, but I'm not sure where you're going with that.

FYI

smooshie Meanwhile the price of everything from milk to gas to college is soaring, not even close to our salaries.

If the cost of milk is really a concern for you, why are you paying for TF?

cmunic8r99: there are middle class americans with less than a high school education?

They were Home Schooled.

The wimmins know how to make cookies.

The mens know how to be angry.

And what these people fail to realize is that the poor in this country are still better off than 95% of the world. Let's kill the poor!

-The neo-con ideal is something like what they have in many S. American countries: a few islands of immense wealth in a sea of grinding poverty. The future looks like something like a cross between Oliver Twist and Blade Runner...

Your Troll = Das Fail

Dancin_In_Anson: Ahhh yes. Class warfare. The lowest common denominator in politics. People sitting around biatching about the things their neighbor has, doing nothing to attain that level for themselves and looking for someone to take from the neighbor and give it to them.

Ya gotta love it.

because people choose and love to be poor.

Uneducated, uninitiated people prefer to think of themselves as victims of capitalism. Details at eleven!

Danger Avoid Death: SBinRR: FTA: most middle class Americans believe that people in general control their own destiny.

I was glad to see this.

But why can't I control my own density?

McFly, didn't I tell you not to be posting on Fark when you're supposed to be doing my Algebra homework? Now I want you to make like a tree, and get the fark out of this thread.

mandingueiro: because people choose and love to be poor.

Because poor people tend to make decisions that keep them poor.

TFA
By a margin of 69-28, Americans agree that the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer.

69% are right.

Since 1975, practically all the gains in household income have gone to the top 20% of households.

As Rich-Poor Gap Widens in the U.S., Class Mobility Stalls (WSJ)

Interactive graph of less class mobility

Faltering meritocracy in America (The Economist)

(NYT) The Mobility Myth

Income Gap Is Widening, Data Shows
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/29/business/29tax.html?_r=1&em&ex=1175313600&en =3 11ab7d3df477c4e&ei=5087%0A%E2%80%9C&oref=slogin

That's because the "rich" keep doing the things that made them "rich" (work, invest,save, etc.)while the "poor" keep doing the things that made them "poor" (don't work, squander, accumulate debt, have babies they can't afford, etc.).

>>>>>>
because people choose and love to be poor.
>>>>>>

Actually, it's because people make choices that keep them poor.

The 2 biggest poor choices that have lifetime effects are:

-Dropping out of school
-Having children before they can afford them


Both of these things are not my fault or yours. So stop blaming me and confiscating my income to endlessly throw money at people that make bad choices.

Inyego: Perhaps it's because the rich keep doing things that attract wealth, while the poor keep behaving in ways that keep them poor? Becoming wealthy most often requires discipline and hard work. Playing the lottery is not retirement planning!

I agree. I am sick and tired of these poor lazy bums always complaining because their jobs all got sent abroad, that their wages have been forced into stagnation so it doesn't hurt profit margins, even though the price of food and fuel has increased well above the price of inflation and then they have the gall to moan they can't afford a house, even with working two or three jobs. If they wanted a house they should have inherited their money or saved for an accounting to play the system.

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: -The neo-con ideal is something like what they have in many S. American countries: a few islands of immense wealth in a sea of grinding poverty. The future looks like something like a cross between Oliver Twist and Blade Runner...

Your Troll = Das Fail

fake german...stay classy.

im sure the voice you had intended sounded exactly like sgt schultz from hogans heroes...with the laugh track and everything.

There's nothing at all wrong with being rich. Especially if you live responsibly and wisely, work hard and seek opportunity. If ever there has been a country in the history of the world where that option is open to any and everyone, it's the United States of America. Too many people have come from nothing and achieved great wealth with honesty and integrity for that not to be true.

It's too bad that we foster a mentality that wants to demonize, then penalize those who achieve their dreams and enjoy success. The tactics are remarkably similar to the ones Lenin used 100 yrs ago.

/I'm not rich, but I applaud anyone who gets rich through hard work and integrity. It gives hope to those who still are trying.

Dancin_In_Anson: Ahhh yes. Class warfare. The lowest common denominator in politics. People sitting around biatching about the things their neighbor has, doing nothing to attain that level for themselves and looking for someone to take from the neighbor and give it to them.

Ya gotta love it.

Ummmm God, gays, and guns have a bone to pick with you.

Also, the much discussed "income gap" does not mean the poor are getting poorer.

Take the average "poor" person today and compare them to 100 years ago and they are living a live that in 1908 would have been considered amazing wealth and luxury.

The poor are getting rich slower than the rich, because they are not working towards it.

mandingueiro: because people choose and love to be poor.

No, because people choose to wait for someone else to fix their own problems.

GoldSpider: mandingueiro: because people choose and love to be poor.

Because poor people tend to make decisions that keep them poor.

Dancin_In_Anson: mandingueiro: because people choose and love to be poor.

No, because people choose to wait for someone else to fix their own problems.

Mojosan: Also, the much discussed "income gap" does not mean the poor are getting poorer.

Take the average "poor" person today and compare them to 100 years ago and they are living a live that in 1908 would have been considered amazing wealth and luxury.

The poor are getting rich slower than the rich, because they are not working towards it.

Dancin_In_Anson: Ahhh yes. Class warfare. The lowest common denominator in politics. People sitting around biatching about the things their neighbor has, doing nothing to attain that level for themselves and looking for someone to take from the neighbor and give it to them.

Ya gotta love it.

Where do you live that pure hard work and dedication are all you need to get the American Dream? I know a lot of people here in Michigan who would just love to cash in on that. Then again they're probably whiners who don't live up to your standards. Half of them don't have jobs, and the other half are scraping by on two jobs each, but obviously they just need to work harder.

Sure, they spent their entire lives working for Ford or GM, or opened their own auto repair business and successfully ran it for decades, but it's their fault that they have to bag groceries and work at McDonalds now. And those kids who have to compete against people with 30 years of job experience for entry level positions? Probably their fault for being born on the wrong state. God obviously knew that they were going to be sinners, so he sent them to Flint as punishment.

/Oh, and rape?
//TOTALLY the victim's fault for being a slut

limeyfellow: Inyego: Perhaps it's because the rich keep doing things that attract wealth, while the poor keep behaving in ways that keep them poor? Becoming wealthy most often requires discipline and hard work. Playing the lottery is not retirement planning!

I agree. I am sick and tired of these poor lazy bums always complaining because their jobs all got sent abroad, that their wages have been forced into stagnation so it doesn't hurt profit margins, even though the price of food and fuel has increased well above the price of inflation and then they have the gall to moan they can't afford a house, even with working two or three jobs. If they wanted a house they should have inherited their money or saved for an accounting to play the system.

Jobs and job markets change all the time, and inflation is always present to some degree. That's life and will not change based on some utopian wet dream or some infantile illusion of fairness. Success comes from planning and being prepared for the inevitable. The vast majority of people who are poor today, will become middle-class unless they choose to sit on their ass and wait for sometthing that will never come.

I dunno, i work 40+ hours a week, i am also taking 9 credits of grad school , paying mostly out of pocket to avoid loans. I have been doing this for years to try and get ahead, and you know what? The debt from the classes keeps piling up, and i am not really getting ahead, though i work really hard.

And its not like i am a social worker or anything. I have a BS in Chemistry, and will have a masters in coatings. One day, i'd like to earn a PhD in materials science.

But the costs of achieving those goals will likely ever exceed the rewards.

I imagine that is true for most of the other poor too.

Just love these polls from the idiotic masses. Snippets can be seen every night on your local teeve news station when they do their "man on the street" interviews....or Jay Leno's "Jay Walking" segments.....we live amongst the masses of IDIOTS who want everything just given to them!

Inyego: Perhaps it's because the rich keep doing things that attract wealth

Yeah, like, lowering, or stagnating the wages of their employees, or simply firing them in order to hire lower paid lackeys who won't ever advance.


Becoming wealthy most often requires discipline and hard work

My last boss' story. : Met the former owner of the company on a flight to a trade show. Hired him as a salesman, and 4 years later turned the company over to him. (1.5mil in yearly profits)
The guy clearly has no concept of the products he sells, the infrastructure that supports them, doesn't understand what his technicians do or know relative to the work place that keeps his checks rolling in.

His typical day: Athletic club for pick up basket ball 4 days a week till 10am. Get to the office at 11am, go to lunch from Noon to 2pm, leave at 3. Work from home on Friday, or really when ever the hell he felt like it.

Meanwhile, he didn't pay employee year end bonuses last year to buy himself an Audi A8 (The $90,000 version) and balked at giving me a raise of a mere 5k that would have actually put me at a wage that followed my experience level.

Anyways, Any retard can own a business, I've come to see this now, so just because you're pulling in million dollar paychecks doesn't really mean you've done anything more than anyone else.

There are just as many idiots with money as there are without. How much money you have or make, or owning a business doesn't mean you're better than those who don't.

I've met plenty of slackers making big bucks off the backs of their employees.

Take my example above, the dude was a class A douchenozzle.

I see rich people.

Walking around like regular people. They don't see each other. They only see what they want to see. They don't know they're rich.

Party Boy: TFA
By a margin of 69-28, Americans agree that the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer.

69% are right.

Since 1975, practically all the gains in household income have gone to the top 20% of households.

As Rich-Poor Gap Widens in the U.S., Class Mobility Stalls (WSJ)

Interactive graph of less class mobility

Faltering meritocracy in America (The Economist)

(NYT) The Mobility Myth

Income Gap Is Widening, Data Shows
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/29/business/29tax.html?_r=1&em&ex=1175313600&en=3 11ab7d3df477c4e&ei=5087%0A%E2%80%9C&oref=slogin

going off of that..










link

Rethorn: Dancin_In_Anson: Ahhh yes. Class warfare. The lowest common denominator in politics. People sitting around biatching about the things their neighbor has, doing nothing to attain that level for themselves and looking for someone to take from the neighbor and give it to them.

Ya gotta love it.

Where do you live that pure hard work and dedication are all you need to get the American Dream? I know a lot of people here in Michigan who would just love to cash in on that. Then again they're probably whiners who don't live up to your standards. Half of them don't have jobs, and the other half are scraping by on two jobs each, but obviously they just need to work harder.

Sure, they spent their entire lives working for Ford or GM, or opened their own auto repair business and successfully ran it for decades, but it's their fault that they have to bag groceries and work at McDonalds now. And those kids who have to compete against people with 30 years of job experience for entry level positions? Probably their fault for being born on the wrong state. God obviously knew that they were going to be sinners, so he sent them to Flint as punishment.

/Oh, and rape?
//TOTALLY the victim's fault for being a slut

You compare a RAPE with people who've lost their jobs due to no fault of their own?
GTFO asshole

Bring-out-your-dead: You compare a RAPE with people who've lost their jobs due to no fault of their own?
GTFO asshole

The point


Your head