Maybe he can share a cell with Ted Stevens.

Crook-like behavior detected? Throw 'im out, district members...

/no matter what the political party
//pretty please?

Oh please, this is just criminalization of politics!

/Well, that and tax fraud.

Cool. I'll just hide some income on my taxes for a decade or so, and then if I get caught I'll say "Oops, lemme just amend those returns. No harm, right?"

I'm not surprised. This is the same moron who wants to reinstate the draft because he feels that it is not fair that more blacks volunteer for the military than whites.

That's not change. That's more of the same.

Grrr: Crook-like behavior detected? Throw 'im out, district members...

he represents harlem, i believe. they wouldn't throw him out

i love charlie rangel, but he shouldn't be allowed to get away with this.

Mr. Davis said the congressman did not realize he had to declare the money as income, and was unaware of the semiannual payments from the resort because his wife, Alma, handled the family finances and conferred with their accountant, John Viardi, on tax matters.

While Rangel is ultimately responsible, it sounds like Mr. Viardi also has some 'splainin' to do.

HansensDisease: Oh please, this is just criminalization of politics!

/Well, that and tax fraud.

It does take the focus off his push to reinstate the draft. I say its good politics.

SpeshilEdjukashin: I'm not surprised. This is the same moron who wants to reinstate the draft because he feels that it is not fair that more blacks volunteer for the military than whites

Too bad that's based in myth. The Army is around 12.5% black. about the same as the nations demographics. Black recruitment has dropped over one third since the war began, so blacks are not joining the military more than whites. Rangel just wants some face time on the tube by being controversial.

He'll just use that velvety voice to lull his accusers into a stupor...

Dancin_In_Anson

Difference is that if he's guilty, I say throw him the fark out and bring him up on the applicable charges.

Unlike most Republicans who will defend their guy or gal no matter what just because he or she has an (R) next to his name.

WalkingCarpet: Unlike most Republicans who will defend their guy or gal no matter what just because he or she has an (R) next to his name.

Like the ones that resigned in shame? Maybe he and William Jefferson could *he* do *snicker* the *hahaha* same....BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

BravadoGT: He'll just use that velvety voice to lull his accusers into a stupor...

The velvety purr of a chainsaw hitting concrete.

WalkingCarpet: Dancin_In_Anson

Difference is that if he's guilty, I say throw him the fark out and bring him up on the applicable charges.

Unlike most Republicans who will defend their guy or gal no matter what just because he or she has an (R) next to his name.

The very fact that he posted that when nobody had tried to defend Rangel shows that he doesn't care about what people say, he just KNOWS that those lefties are perfectly happy to let their guys be corrupt.

Dancin_In_Anson:

Like the ones that resigned in shame? Maybe he and William Jefferson could *he* do *snicker* the *hahaha* same....BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I must have missed where I posted in support of Rangel or Jefferson.

I guess I'll just have to repeat myself since it applies to Jefferson as well.

Difference is that if he's guilty, I say throw him the fark out and bring him up on the applicable charges.

Unlike most Republicans who will defend their guy or gal no matter what just because he or she has an (R) next to his name.

Only the little people pay taxes, right Chahley?

WalkingCarpet: I must have missed where I posted in support of Rangel or Jefferson.

So why did you even bother saying Unlike most Republicans who will defend their guy or gal no matter what just because he or she has an (R) next to his name.?

It's bullshiat. Rangel and Jefferson should resign. Now.

Dancin_In_Anson: It's bullshiat. Rangel and Jefferson should resign. Now.

I agree. Cheney and Bush should also resign for subverting the Constitution.

You go first.

Can we please dispense with the "your side does it too!" idiocy and just get rid of all of them?

note to self:

D or R is absent
Negative press
must be a D

D or R is absent
positive press
must be an R

And has FOUR rent-stabilized apartments in Harlem while his district's citizens are being priced out of the area.

(He did drop ONE of them when it was proven to be clearly and solely for office use!)

Rent-stabilization is meant to provide affordable apartments to residents, for A place to LIVE.

/Rent stabilization is rent welfare, but since the landlord is the one who covers it it's not official state welfare

No one even bothers to call Godwin anymore, it's such an overused ploy. But it still makes you a moran if you compare someone to Hitler or the nazis.

FlashHarry: i love charlie rangel, but he shouldn't be allowed to get away with this.

Seconded.

/Lived in his district for a few years
//And voted for him
///Have no problem with him being thrown out if this is as bad as it seems

HansensDisease: I agree. Cheney and Bush should also resign for subverting the Constitution.

You go first.

I have never understood how exercising the powers of the executive branch of government is subverting the constitution.

When the democratic controlled congress is able to prove that he has done something illegal, that is a different matter - but so far they haven't.

I suppose you would rather that the executive branch just rolled over everytime the legislative branch barked.

Pro Zack: I suppose you would rather that the executive branch just rolled over everytime the legislative branch barked.

Only until Jan 20 2009...Then he'll see who is in and he'll get back to you.

NYZooMan: Rent-stabilization is meant to provide affordable apartments to residents, for A place to LIVE.

/Rent stabilization is rent welfare, but since the landlord is the one who covers it it's not official state welfare

This, to me, is worse than the tax thing. The article stated that he is not subject to federal tax on the rental income, however he is subject to NYS tax and NYC tax. The tax code is complex enough that this type of thing can happen (deductible for fed tax but not for state), although I would have expected his accountant to catch this.

The rent stabilized apartment issue is worse, IMO. Why would he have four apartments? Why would he need them rent stabilized? Agreed with you overall opinion on rent stabilization, and the fact that a guy like Rangel can get below market rent just proves how ridiculous the system is.

WalkingCarpet: Dancin_In_Anson

Difference is that if he's guilty, I say throw him the fark out and bring him up on the applicable charges.

Unlike most Republicans who will defend their guy or gal no matter what just because he or she has an (R) next to his name.

You may say throw him out however most of your fellow Democrats will have something very different to say about that.

New the Ways and Means

Rangel rents four apartments with all units rent control, so his monthly payments are well below market rates. And he says people in his district expect him to drive a nice car, why if course is paid for by the tax payer.

/ another pig at the tax payer trough

Never underestimate the stupidity of New York (Harlem) voters in sending politicians back year after year after year......

Has Obama or McCain made a comment on this alleged corruption and tax evasion yet?

He's just trying to end Red State Welfare from the ground up.

If this were anyone but a Democrat, this thread would be 250 posts long by now with demands for his resignation, prosecution, and castration.

Doc Lee: He's just trying to end Red State Welfare from the ground up.

Yeah! Just look at all those Red States!


Top 12 States for local per capita spending on welfare:

1 New York $2,236
2 Alaska $2,085
3 Rhode Island $2,014
4 Maine $1,889
5 Vermont $1,799
6 Massachusetts $1,779
7 Minnesota $1,776
8 Pennsylvania $1,628
9 New Mexico $1,466
10 Delaware $1,455
11 Ohio $1,450
12 New Jersey $1,426

SOURCE

dryknife: New the Ways and Means

Wilbur D. Mills is an American hero.

SherKhan:

Dr. Girlfriend? Don't do that. I can't stop laughing. I will now look to see if he's listed in the credits.

I_C_Weener:

The first time I tried out the comparison was in a proposed military draft thread and my quip about just recruiting new henchmen didn't go over well with no accompanying pic.

Here's what the GOP needs to do about Rangel.

They're not going to actually beat Democrats in districts like Rangel's, but what they should at least be doing is picking out all the districts in swing states that are represented by blowhard liberals who usually run essentially unopposed and whose idiocy usually winds up underneath the radar because they're not quite as batshiat insane as a Cynthia McKinney. Find some feisty small-town mayors to run against the blowhards - although in Rangel's district they'll probably need to find a community organizer. (Oh, the irony.)

These candidates will be taking one for the team. They don't have a shot at winning, but the press can't resist a good David-vs-Goliath story and as a group they'll get way more free publicity than they would if they ran their usual campaigns.

So run somebody against Sheila Jackson Lee. Run somebody against Kucinich, against Rangel, Corrine Brown, Dollar Bill Jefferson, Patrick Kennedy, and so forth.

Most of these districts are in lousy shape. McCain can point out that these districts are suffering because of the corruption that inevitably comes with one-party rule, and one-party rule is what they'll get if Obama's elected.

So...how's that "Most Ethical Congress EVAAAAAR" thing going for you, Nance?

BravadoGT: Doc Lee: He's just trying to end Red State Welfare from the ground up.

Yeah! Just look at all those Red States!


Top 12 States for local per capita spending on welfare:

1 New York $2,236
2 Alaska $2,085
3 Rhode Island $2,014
4 Maine $1,889
5 Vermont $1,799
6 Massachusetts $1,779
7 Minnesota $1,776
8 Pennsylvania $1,628
9 New Mexico $1,466
10 Delaware $1,455
11 Ohio $1,450
12 New Jersey $1,426

I think what Doc was referring to was the fact that primarily red states are the beneficiaries of federal government spending in excess of their contribution to tax revenues, whereas states like New York, Connecticut, Massachusetts and New Jersey pay much more in taxes than they receive in govenment spending.

Thus, red states are on welfare funded by blue states.

At least he is not Sarah Palin

I call for Charlie Rangel to resign immediately.

It's not tax evasion when they do it.

What is good for the goose...."insensitive to the appearance of impropriety."

Independent Counsel James C. McKay investigated the Attorney General Ed. Meese for his failure to file an income tax return on capital gains. McKay did conclude, however, that Meese may have been "insensitive to the appearance of impropriety."

Following the filing of McKay's 830-page report, Meese announced his resignation.


So Mr. Rangel when can we expect your resignation?

hasty ambush: So Mr. Rangel when can we expect your resignation?

Probably not this late in the game.

Pro Zack: I have never understood how exercising the powers of the executive branch of government is subverting the constitution.

When the democratic controlled congress is able to prove that he has done something illegal, that is a different matter - but so far they haven't.


Filing the Articles of Impeachment is impossible due to the balance of power in Congress. Republicans can and will vote against them in the interest of party unity.

Ergo, your assertion that impropriety exists so long as it meets this condition is baseless. A decoy to distract from the fact that Bush HAS overstepped his boundaries and engaged in acts that violate the seperation of powers in varying degrees.

Just a small example, but Bush has violated the supremacy clause of the Constitution through his detention of persons in Gitmo. The clause clearly states that international accords override American law. His treatment of persons in the camp is a clear violation of the terms of the Geneva Accords III and IV.

Feel free to read the Treaties, both are available online, and see for yourself.