Jackass parade.

Henry Rollins rocks. One of my favorite stand up comedians, singers, and spoken word performers.

Not to be confused with Milli Vanilli's Henry Rollins

If Charley thinks you are cool, you are doing it wrong.

I want Henry Rollins very much.

I'm going to see him do his spoken word on the 25th. His shows are always excellent.

It's really not cool at all...

Not only what Manson had his people do was such a horrific and merciless crime; he ordered them to do it against people who had nothing to do with his upset about the music business - but ordered them killed anyway....

/disgusting piece of shiat, that Manson

I can't think of two more obnoxious people to be sharing ideas.

Was he the one that convinced Janeane Garofalo to get all the tats? They look good but post 35 is an odd time to get covered.

martijannetti: I can't think of two more obnoxious people to be sharing ideas.

Yeah, intelligent outspoken honest people like Rollins are so obnoxious. Fark off.

Who wouldn't correspond with a serial killer given the chance? I definitely would. . .

Is Garofalo a midget?

Rollins is only like 5'4" or so.

NM, she is 5'1" and imdb says he is 5'9", but I think that is wrong.

I know of at least one Beach Boys song that was actually a Manson-composed song, his "cease to exist" which they rebaptised "cease to resist"

not a bad song, but for what it's worh, I own the Charles Manson record, and its pretty good. "look at your game, girl" (new window) is a great song, and fun to play to peopl. who all go, "that's so beautiful, who is this?"


"....Manson"

RemyDuron: martijannetti: I can't think of two more obnoxious people to be sharing ideas.

Yeah, intelligent outspoken honest people like Rollins are so obnoxious. Fark off.

Who wouldn't correspond with a serial killer given the chance? I definitely would. . .

I think I'd avoid corresponding with a serial killer who not only had, but still has, followers.

utter_bastard: NM, she is 5'1" and imdb says he is 5'9", but I think that is wrong.

I met him at a book signing once, as far he's concerned, id say a little shorter than 5' 9' . I remember standing next to him, and went "wow, im taller than Rollins, yet his arms look like they could shred me like paper"

Ooooh Henry you are so edgy. I can't handle your edginess.

That Manson is regarded as the single most feared and notorious criminal in American history is a terrible indication of how truly clueless our masses our. Something in the order is really wrong here.

Manson didn't actually kill anyone.

Listen,no doubt about it--Manson is certainly a dangerous sociopath but there a far FAR worse amongst us now. There have been too many to count who were far worse than Manson. Hell,there are people in our government worse than him.

One thing that Manson said that I admit I totally agree with:

"I am being crucified for Nixon's sins"

Manson was deliberately made an example of.
The so called "establishment" needed desperately to link the rising "counter-culture" with something sinister.
Manson was their target of opportunity.
Make no mistake though,the Manson "family" did do some grisly murders but the whole thing was way blown out of proportion.

Every single major city in the USA now probably has sociopaths worse than Manson both behind bars and on the streets.

Sleep tight kiddies.

HappyHarryHardOn: is a great song

Different strokes, I guess.

craigdamage: Every single major city in the USA now probably has sociopaths worse than Manson both behind bars and on the streets.

You make some good points... I will go further to say that all of we are probably communicating with all kinds of nefarious dirtbags. Where you live, you are probably a stone's throw away from an uncaught rapist or murderer.

My problem with the Rollins story is that whole "coolness" factor that developed around Manson; despite if he was used for ulterior motives or there are worse criminals.
Even that older South Park episode, although really humorous to watch, presents Manson as a sympathetic character..which may not damage the average person, but contributes to that phony aura generated around his story.

RemyDuron: Henry Rollins rocks. One of my favorite stand up comedians, singers, and spoken word performers.

THIS!

zvoidx: My problem with the Rollins story is that whole "coolness" factor that developed around Manson; despite if he was used for ulterior motives or there are worse criminals.
Even that older South Park episode, although really humorous to watch, presents Manson as a sympathetic character..which may not damage the average person, but contributes to that phony aura generated around his story.

I don't think story presents Manson as cool at all. Rollins never complicated him, he just said it was intense, heavy stuff.

craigdamage: That Manson is regarded as the single most feared and notorious criminal in American history is a terrible indication of how truly clueless our masses our. Something in the order is really wrong here.

Manson didn't actually kill anyone.

Listen,no doubt about it--Manson is certainly a dangerous sociopath but there a far FAR worse amongst us now. There have been too many to count who were far worse than Manson. Hell,there are people in our government worse than him.

Well if you know anybody in our government barking out orders to go into peoples homes and systematically slaughter them (Y'know, like stabbing a pregnant girl 16 times while she pleads to let her live long enough to have her baby), and proceed to write cryptic messages on the walls with the victims' blood, you might want to weed them out. I mean, after all, you know there are worse people in our government, right? Well, you said so right up there. Look, I highlighted it in bold. You said, "There are people in our government worse than him." This is huge. You've got to name names, dude. They mught send knife-wielding maniacs in any farkers home as we speak! Please, let us know who these horrible Manson-like government people are before it's too late!

/Anybody tries to reply to this with a "like what we're doing in Iraq..." comparison is a douche.

RemyDuron: I don't think story presents Manson as cool at all. Rollins never complicated him, he just said it was intense, heavy stuff.

We also have to factor in that Rollins is pen pals with literally hundreds of people.
His spoken word show had me laughing till my sides hurt.

for good or for awesome: RemyDuron: I don't think story presents Manson as cool at all. Rollins never complicated him, he just said it was intense, heavy stuff.

We also have to factor in that Rollins is pen pals with literally hundreds of people.
His spoken word show had me laughing till my sides hurt.

Yeah. "Eric the Pilot" is one of the best comedy bits I've ever heard.

RemyDuron: martijannetti: I can't think of two more obnoxious people to be sharing ideas.

Yeah, intelligent outspoken honest people like Rollins are so obnoxious. Fark off.

Who wouldn't correspond with a serial killer given the chance? I definitely would. . .

Let people have their pre-conceived notions and live in their safe boxes. Eventually, Rollins will release a book that will shed A LOT of information that psychologists and law enforcement stiffs have been dying to get.

Locking psychopaths away and ignoring them is NOT the way to learn about them.

limboslam: craigdamage: That Manson is regarded as the single most feared and notorious criminal in American history is a terrible indication of how truly clueless our masses our. Something in the order is really wrong here.

Manson didn't actually kill anyone.

Listen,no doubt about it--Manson is certainly a dangerous sociopath but there a far FAR worse amongst us now. There have been too many to count who were far worse than Manson. Hell,there are people in our government worse than him.

Well if you know anybody in our government barking out orders to go into peoples homes and systematically slaughter them (Y'know, like stabbing a pregnant girl 16 times while she pleads to let her live long enough to have her baby), and proceed to write cryptic messages on the walls with the victims' blood, you might want to weed them out. I mean, after all, you know there are worse people in our government, right? Well, you said so right up there. Look, I highlighted it in bold. You said, "There are people in our government worse than him." This is huge. You've got to name names, dude. They mught send knife-wielding maniacs in any farkers home as we speak! Please, let us know who these horrible Manson-like government people are before it's too late!

/Anybody tries to reply to this with a "like what we're doing in Iraq..." comparison is a douche.

I will be that douche. GW and Dicky Cheney are responsible directly or indirectly for the deaths of possibly more than a million (that's with an M farktard) deaths. Of course, they did it with fancy paper and the sacrificed lives of people they will never know.

Nobody argues that CM is insane or a monster, but what monstrosities are you somehow complicit in because you didn't want to pay attention to the writing on the wall.

You want to discuss what Negroponte knew while in Central and South America?

/Dressing mass murder up in a suit and a stock portfolio does NOT make it ok.

RemyDuron
Settle down. I just meant they are both windbags that never shut up. Listen to Harmony in my Head sometime and tell me Rollins vs Manson wouldn't be intolerable.

Chuck Norris shiats in his pants a little bit when he hears "Henry Rollins".

iaazathot: Let people have their pre-conceived notions and live in their safe boxes. Eventually, Rollins will release a book that will shed A LOT of information that psychologists and law enforcement stiffs have been dying to get.

Locking psychopaths away and ignoring them is NOT the way to learn about them.

A lot of people understand psychopaths; it's not like they're a rare breed or something. Shiat, I was married to one, and so are other people. It's not like they're all locked up in prisons--on the contrary, most of them are running around ruining other people's lives.

And if most of them haven't killed anybody, it's only because they haven't found it necessary to do so.

iaazathot: Nobody argues that CM is insane or a monster...

Hey, man...

Well if you know anybody in our government barking out orders.... limbotard



......ummmmm,yes.

You clearly suffer from limited intellect syndrome and my painfully simple and obvious post confused you so let me summarize and simplify:

Manson -- BAD

Others -- MORE BAD

Do you require further explanation?

My sister's sister-in-law used to be pen pals with Jeffery McDonald. McDonald told her to quit writing him when she was a witness to a triple murder that was a lot like McDonald's.

It creeped me out to no end. I used to get in arguments all the time with my brother-in-law about it.

He started agreeing with me when she implicated him in the triple murder.

Just google Julie Czerniak. She's the babysitter in the Eastburn murders.

/has a slight tie in with Manson
//McDonald used an article about Manson to try and cover up the murders of his family.
///liked Rollins until I read this

No band was heavier than Black Flag. True musical pioneers. Genius.

"His letters would always have swastikas on them so they were easy to spot."

I really think that's...like, the best way to end an article, ever.

Lemon-Lime Malthus : Not to be confused with Milli Vanilli's Henry Rollins

I LOL'ed.

Charlie walked in and stabbed Gary Hinman with a WWII bayonet. I was there.
Don't tell me he didn't kill anybody. Gary took two days to die.......

Rollins is a blowhard. Just because most Americans can't string a bunch of words together to make an intelligent sentence doesn't mean that the crap that spews from his lips is any more meaningful, or an indication of his "intelligence". He is full of crap, and nothing he says is all that fantastic. Perhaps if his fans bothered to actually read some classic authors, they would also realize this.

In other news, nothing interesting has happened in either Rollins' or Manson's careers since 1984.

Why is this even on Fark?

I like Hank. I met him in Vancouver once outside the Sutton, and he was very kind and gracious even though he was in a hurry to go somewhere.

Bush, Manson, what's the difference really? Both take the bible much too seriously, and both caused a lot of people to die by running their fool mouths.

But Bush is worse, measurably, by orders of magnitude. And Bugliosi is currently seeking a murder indictment against Bush.

(Have any of you seen the Hendrickson documentaries on Manson?)

Henry Rollins is actually kind of a douche. He's incredibly full of himself for a singer who can't sing and a stand-up who calls his act "spoken word" because he can't claim to actually be funny. He's no great shakes as an actor, either.

Sure, he was in Black Flag. So were about twenty other people.

btw---didn't the article mention that it was Manson who wrote to Rollins originally?

.....the problem here is the "pen pals" part in the title.

No Rollins quote from the article does he use language like "pals" or does he in any way regard Manson as a "buddy" or anything remotely affectionate or sympathetic to him.


So...uh,get a f*cking grip people.

I was briefly into Rollins Band and had won some tickets to see Henry at the local university (SUNY Binghamton). I took a buddy of mine and we got pretty wasted before the show. I kept looking at the tickets and kept wondering why the fark they were calling it the "Spoken Word Tour". Obviously found out what that meant later in the evening, ripped out of my mind, sitting on the bleachers, trying to stay awake.

He does have great stage presence though, wish I could remember what the hell he was talking about.

GreyArt: My sister's sister-in-law used to be pen pals with Jeffery McDonald. McDonald told her to quit writing him when she was a witness to a triple murder that was a lot like McDonald's.

It creeped me out to no end. I used to get in arguments all the time with my brother-in-law about it.

He started agreeing with me when she implicated him in the triple murder.

Just google Julie Czerniak. She's the babysitter in the Eastburn murders.

/has a slight tie in with Manson
//McDonald used an article about Manson to try and cover up the murders of his family.
///liked Rollins until I read this

Why? How does this reflect badly on Rollins AT ALL?!

I just don't get it. . . what's wrong with talking to psychopaths? Psychologist must be considered lower than low to you people. . .

goodwynn: Rollins is a blowhard. Just because most Americans can't string a bunch of words together to make an intelligent sentence doesn't mean that the crap that spews from his lips is any more meaningful, or an indication of his "intelligence". He is full of crap, and nothing he says is all that fantastic. Perhaps if his fans bothered to actually read some classic authors, they would also realize this.

Uh. . . hi. I've read classic authors. Rollins is still funny, a good songwriter, and his TV show was brilliant. His books aren't as great, though. When you're so dark you begin to overdo it for ME, that's way, way, dark.

Rollins fan checking in here...

If you read through his books, especially the tour journals/interview pages (the Black Coffee Blues trilogy specifically) you'll see where Rollins uses the adjective "intense" to describe people he obviously dislikes, even people for whom he has blatant disdain.

Being "intense" as a person does not necessarily make you a good person...