/lawn..OFF!

Everyone knows the PTA prez is always a biatch or an asshole

Okay, this trumps the "Alaska is near Russia, so she has foreign policy experience" line as my favorite.

Ok this is a lesson to you dittoheads.

this is what they think of your intelligence.
if you're not insulted by this, then maybe they're right.

The dem ticket has given hope to little kids of all races and both genders a renewed sense of hope in the idea that they can do and become anything they want to be when they grow up.

Conversely, thanks to the repub ticket, there are now thousands of delusional 76 years olds and soccer moms refining their resumes because one day they too might become president. Wonderful.

this means my mom could have been qualified. She ran a business. She babysat for money and was head of the PTA.

Heaven help us.

The only way the left can make this argument plausible is if Biden and Obama switch positions.

oh and she also had 5 kids of her own too. too bad we didn't live on the coast or she would have foreign experience too.

TheConvincingSavant: The only way the left can make this argument plausible is if Biden and Obama switch positions.

why is that? you don't think they will confer with each other? that if Biden were to have a legitimate problem with something Obama wouldn't listen?

TheConvincingSavant: The only way the left can make this argument plausible is if Biden and Obama switch positions.

You're not even trying anymore. We expect much better WHARRGARBL than this shiat.

TheConvincingSavant: The only way the left can make this argument plausible is if Biden and Obama switch positions.

It was the Republicans making "experience" an issue and then they went and got the least experienced candidate they could find.

TheConvincingSavant: The only way the left can make this argument plausible is if Biden and Obama switch positions.

To the Core of my being, that makes no sense.

Heh...just saw McCain talking to Brian Williams.

He must have said "Executive experience" 4 or 5 times in less than two minutes.

I can't wait for the debates...

Well, I didn't know she had been president of the PTA, that changes everything.

/I'm seriously over-modest on my resume

To be fair, maybe the GOP is really trying to reach the masses. They're trying to prove that basically anyone can be President.

Try it for yourself -- walk into a Denny's and ask to speak with the manager. Ask him for a job application. BOOM! He's qualified to be President of the US!

Imagine the possibilities!

PoopStain: Another Palin thread? Is Kos paying fark to run these?

No need, these threads fill up quickly.

Were you too busy posting in the South Ossetia thread? No?

I wonder which farkers are also Daily Kos employees?

That being said, if you were going to cite experience, I'd think her time as mayor would be more credible.

I just saw this on NBCNN and had to rewind it three time to be sure I heard right. YOu can't make this shiat up. I wish it was, but...

Hobodeluxe: TheConvincingSavant: The only way the left can make this argument plausible is if Biden and Obama switch positions.

why is that? you don't think they will confer with each other? that if Biden were to have a legitimate problem with something Obama wouldn't listen?

I'd prefer the number one spot be for someone who has the experience to handle a problem without always having to confer with the number two spot.

You get this with McCain, you don't with Obama.

TheConvincingSavant: Hobodeluxe: TheConvincingSavant: The only way the left can make this argument plausible is if Biden and Obama switch positions.

why is that? you don't think they will confer with each other? that if Biden were to have a legitimate problem with something Obama wouldn't listen?

I'd prefer the number one spot be for someone who has the experience to handle a problem without always having to confer with the number two spot.

You get this with McCain, you don't with Obama.

What "executive experience" has McCain had?

John Paul Jones: To be fair, maybe the GOP is really trying to reach the masses. They're trying to prove that basically anyone can be President.

Try it for yourself -- walk into a Denny's and ask to speak with the manager. Ask him for a job application. BOOM! He's qualified to be President of the US!

Imagine the possibilities!

W. got elected by folks who thought "Yeah, that John Kerry and his big words, who does he think he is? W., on the other hand, reminds me of my son Biff. If we elect W., then someday Biff may be president."

For the GOP, far more-so then the dems, the president is a figurehead. It's those he appoints who call the shots at this point. And if McCain is willing to concede the choice for vp to those around him, he is likely to do the same for his appointees. Say hello to a cabinet staffed by W. loyalists.

keylock71: TheConvincingSavant: Hobodeluxe: TheConvincingSavant: The only way the left can make this argument plausible is if Biden and Obama switch positions.

why is that? you don't think they will confer with each other? that if Biden were to have a legitimate problem with something Obama wouldn't listen?

I'd prefer the number one spot be for someone who has the experience to handle a problem without always having to confer with the number two spot.

You get this with McCain, you don't with Obama.

What "executive experience" has McCain had?

Didn't you hear? He was a POW.

Trophy veep with PTA experience, proximity to Russia, and under investigation for abuse of power.

Great job with your first big decision, Mac.

SingletonFactory: keylock71: TheConvincingSavant: Hobodeluxe: TheConvincingSavant: The only way the left can make this argument plausible is if Biden and Obama switch positions.

why is that? you don't think they will confer with each other? that if Biden were to have a legitimate problem with something Obama wouldn't listen?

I'd prefer the number one spot be for someone who has the experience to handle a problem without always having to confer with the number two spot.

You get this with McCain, you don't with Obama.

What "executive experience" has McCain had?

Didn't you hear? He was a POW.

Hmmm, hadn't heard that... this changes everything.

TheConvincingSavant: You get this with McCain, you don't with Obama.

Well, you get this with McCain as long as Lieberman is standing in the background.

This is my favorite piece of ignorance from Palin.

From a questionnaire in 2006:

11. Are you offended by the phrase "Under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance? Why or why not?

[Palin]: Not on your life. If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and I'll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance

And, also, remember, Alaska is the closest part of our continent to Russia. So it's not as if she doesn't understand what's at stake here.

Well then based on their logic Obama is WAY more qualified...he was born in Hawaii which is much closer to the middle east than Alaska. And me? I've been to both Canada and Mexico and I only have two less years of experience in state gov't than Palin...guess I'm now qualified to be the VP. What a freaking joke.

Obdicut: 11. Are you offended by the phrase "Under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance? Why or why not?

[Palin]: Not on your life. If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and I'll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance

Oh, that is GOLD!

Does she think Jesus spoke English?

TheConvincingSavant: Hobodeluxe: TheConvincingSavant: The only way the left can make this argument plausible is if Biden and Obama switch positions.

why is that? you don't think they will confer with each other? that if Biden were to have a legitimate problem with something Obama wouldn't listen?

I'd prefer the number one spot be for someone who has the experience to handle a problem without always having to confer with the number two spot.


After eight years of Bush and "Co-President" Cheney, now you have a problem with this?

/Concern Troll is concerned.

TheConvincingSavant: I'd prefer the number one spot be for someone who has the experience to handle a problem without always having to confer with the number two spot.

You get this with McCain, you don't with Obama.

yeah but if something happens to Obama (young healthy)you have Biden.
if something happens to McCain (old,cancer)you're left with Miss Congeniality

Hobodeluxe: this means my mom could have been qualified. She ran a business. She babysat for money and was head of the PTA.

Heaven help us.

shiat - this means I'M qualified - I ran a catering business in college, was elected (democratically, by God) to the head of a student organization at a major University (U of MD LGBTA), and hold national office as an elected member of the Association for Library Cataloging and Technical Services' Continuing Education Committee - AND, I sit on the American Library Association Intellectual Freedom Round Table (another national office), the Public Library Association Technical Services Working Group, and the Library of Congress Standards Advisory Group.

So, why the Fark have I not been named a candidate??? I should go and get that list of 2008 "Candidates Who Haven't a Prayer" and get them to nominate me.

keylock71: TheConvincingSavant: Hobodeluxe: TheConvincingSavant: The only way the left can make this argument plausible is if Biden and Obama switch positions.

why is that? you don't think they will confer with each other? that if Biden were to have a legitimate problem with something Obama wouldn't listen?

I'd prefer the number one spot be for someone who has the experience to handle a problem without always having to confer with the number two spot.

You get this with McCain, you don't with Obama.

What "executive experience" has McCain had?

He was a POW.

Lionel Mandrake: Does she think Jesus spoke English?

Did Jesus speak English when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? You bet your damn ass he did. He said, "fark you, commies!"

Mordant: He was a POW.

WHOA, WHOA, WHOA...wait a minute.

Why haven't I heard of this?

It's a no-brainer... POW / PTA
'08

TheConvincingSavant: I'd prefer the number one spot be for someone who has the experience to handle a problem without always having to confer with the number two spot.

You get this with McCain, you don't with Obama.

Not Really

Lionel Mandrake: POW / PTA
'08

Well played, sir.

Outside of Burton's hair-trigger gaffe (immediately disavowed by the Obama campaign), has anyone noticed that the Obama camp is limiting their comments about Palin to some lighthearted teasing that she's cuter than Joe Biden and some serious opposition to her policy positions? Seriously - I don't see them commenting on Palin's creds. Dems not on the Obama/Biden staff are pointing and laughing, but the candidates themselves?

Meanwhile, McCain's spokesholes are defending Palin's creds on every show that will book them. McCain's netshills are repeating the line that Obama cannot attack Palin's experience since his own is pretty weak - but I have yet to see one post that directly quotes either candidate or any Obama/Biden staffer.

Obama Camp: playing it smart. Find me a sourced quote from a named member of the Obama camp (outside of Burton's hasty and unauthorized comment) that criticizes Palin's experience and I will apologize for the mis-statement...but I haven't seen nor heard of a critique from that corner yet.

McCain Camp: losing their schiat trying to cover for the unvetted VP candidate. Why else would they trot out Cindy McCain to say Alaska's proximity to Russia gives Palin foreign policy/national security cred? They are desparate to save their own credibility with independents and women (who are not receptive to Palin), and their campaign reeks of fear.

Meanwhile, it's fun to play "Vet the Veep" for McCain - Dairygate, Wootengate, Arenagate, Recallgate, Pledgegate, ShadowGovernorgate...it's like getting a whole Republican administration's worth of scandal in one 60-day campaign. Awesome!

Lionel Mandrake: Does she think Jesus spoke English?

Yes, from the back of a dinosaur.

Shrew2u: Meanwhile, it's fun to play "Vet the Veep" for McCain - Dairygate, Wootengate, Arenagate, Recallgate, Pledgegate, ShadowGovernorgate...it's like getting a whole Republican administration's worth of scandal in one 60-day campaign. Awesome!

Wow. I'm only familiar with like two of those gates.

Not that it matters - her self-avowed positions are more than enough for me to oppose her, but it will be interesting to watch the press vet her (which was apparently to much effort for the McCain camp...)

I am glad that Obama has basically stepped back and let the story develop...If you shock the journalism community (who frown on these shenanigans) with a surprise pick, they will dig and dig and dig. Let them.

WTF does experience have to do with running this country? Any idiot can get the job. At least this lady has some balls.

/moose hunting
//'nuff

Hey, all you Fark parents out there, would you let your kid's PTA president be the VP?

Why/why not?

Looks like she has executive experience to me

Four presidents generally ranked in the top fifteen by historians have had experience comparable to Governor Palin's prior to assuming office: Franklin Roosevelt, Theodore Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, and Grover Cleveland.
Sarah Palin spent four years as a City Council Member for Wasilla, Alaska, two years as Mayor of Wasilla, and two years as Governor of Alaska.

FDR spent just over two years in the New York State Senate, eight years as Assistant Secretary of the Navy, and four years as Governor of New York.

Theodore Roosevelt spent some time in the New York State Assembly(?), two years as Governor of New York, two years as Assistant Secretary of the Navy, and less than one year as Vice President of the United States.

Woodrow Wilson spent eight years as President of Princeton University and two years as Governor of New Jersey.

Grover Cleveland spent two years as Sheriff of Erie County, two years as Mayor of Buffalo, and two years as Governor of New York.

Overall, I'd say that Palin's background is comparable with that of several presidents considered highly successful, even considering that her state has a smaller population than the other two states on the list.

In contrast, I was unable to find a single President of the United States who had a complete absence of executive experience and as little legislative experience as Obama's four years in the United States Senate after eight years in the state senate. While there were several presidents with experience comparable to Biden's 25 years in the United States Senate, his notable accomplishments tend to be in the direction of millions of dollars per year in earmarks for his district rather than reducing wasteful spending or fighting corruption in either his own party or in Washington as a whole.

While Obama has been running for office for as long as Palin has been running a state, I find it hard to consider the two tasks as comparable preparation.

One final note: I will be posting this multiple times because I think it is important to get the word out that that her experience is in keeping with previous presidents. I apologize to those who are annoyed by seeing it too often.


46 posted on Sunday, August 31, 2008 5:49:30 PM by RogerD (Educaiton Profesionul) Link (new window)

Freeperland is experiencing one massive woodie over this!

They are so cute when they try to think.

Lionel Mandrake: Mordant: He was a POW.

WHOA, WHOA, WHOA...wait a minute.

Why haven't I heard of this?

It's a no-brainer... POW / PTA
'08

John Paul Jones: TheConvincingSavant: The only way the left can make this argument plausible is if Biden and Obama switch positions.

You're not even trying anymore. We expect much better WHARRGARBL than this shiat.

In the thread above about the GOP failing he has an even worse one. I demand over-the-top opinions that are meant to get me into a fury.

Now hopefully everyone can shut-up about experience and get to some real policy debate.

Can't believe nobody has brought up this gem from Mrs. McCain:

"She is heavily experienced in what she has done."

Um, well, me too. However, I don't think Warcraft and fapping more than anyone else alive qualifies me for much in the way of elected office.

/i don't do Warcraft and fapping together
//i'm not a sicko