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(The New York Times) Obvious Advisors say McCain really wanted to pick Lieberman, but couldn't withstand the pressure from social conservatives. Maverick   (nytimes.com) divider line 92
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bulldg4life [TotalFark] 2008-08-31 12:35:41 PM  
Captain Obvious reporting?

 
SilentStrider [TotalFark] 2008-08-31 12:46:14 PM  
So the Maverick was Goosed by the Icemen?

 
Tsunami Ditka 2008-08-31 01:02:24 PM  
Newsflash! John McCain is only a maverick when he's not trying to get elected!! It's shocking, I know, but take a couple of deep breaths and you should be fine.

 
mcwebe0 [TotalFark] 2008-08-31 01:02:43 PM  
A man of such strength and character as John McCain, a man who resisted his VC captors attempts to interrogate him for a period of five and a half years in his cell, has demonstrated more profoundly than any other person in this election cycle that he is willing to stand up to the status quo in his party. He continues to be a maverick who will not be bound by party conventions and will act on his conscience on all matters.

 
Lackofname 2008-08-31 01:02:44 PM  
What has McCain done that's "Maverick" in the last five years, anyhow?

 
Yukon Callmeal 2008-08-31 01:03:24 PM  
And if there is any paper that is well-connected with the inner workings of a Republican campaign, is most certainly would be the New York Times, right?

 
2wolves 2008-08-31 01:04:17 PM  
"**** the Jews. They don't vote for us anyway."

 
Tsunami Ditka 2008-08-31 01:04:58 PM  
mcwebe0: A man of such strength and character as John McCain, a man who resisted his VC captors attempts to interrogate him for a period of five and a half years in his cell, has demonstrated more profoundly than any other person in this election cycle that he is willing to stand up to the status quo in his party. He continues to be a maverick who will not be bound by party conventions and will act on his conscience on all matters.

lol

 
Tsunami Ditka 2008-08-31 01:05:47 PM  
Yukon Callmeal: And if there is any paper that is well-connected with the inner workings of a Republican campaign, is most certainly would be the New York Times, right?

Um, the NYT is hardly the first media outlet to report this. This story has been running since news of Palin broke, if not earlier.

 
Mistah Scrotie 2008-08-31 01:07:11 PM  
Advisors say McCain really wanted to pick Lieberman, but couldn't withstand the pressure from social conservatives. Maverick

da-hoy

 
Cuidado! Llamas! 2008-08-31 01:07:27 PM  
Poor guy just wanted some JOEMENTUM!

 
shower_in_my_socks [TotalFark] 2008-08-31 01:09:06 PM  
So instead John McCain (W) picks a running mate who has absolutely no farking idea what's going on in the lower 48 states or in the rest of the world.

McCain's choice fo VP makes me angry, and if they win the election, the lunatics will have officially taken over the asylum and it may be time for the rest of us to bail out on this sinking ship.

Un-farking-believable that people, even partisan GOP hacks, would talk about this pick with any level of seriousness. This is a farking tragedy and a new low in American politics, even after Dubya.

 
Devil Slide Wolf 2008-08-31 01:10:06 PM  
I think all people are wonderful

 
RadioAaron 2008-08-31 01:10:10 PM  
PALINCAKES!

 
NeverDrunk23 2008-08-31 01:10:17 PM  
shower_in_my_socks: So instead John McCain (W) picks a running mate who has absolutely no farking idea what's going on in the lower 48 states or in the rest of the world.

McCain's choice fo VP makes me angry, and if they win the election, the lunatics will have officially taken over the asylum and it may be time for the rest of us to bail out on this sinking ship.

Un-farking-believable that people, even partisan GOP hacks, would talk about this pick with any level of seriousness. This is a farking tragedy and a new low in American politics, even after Dubya.


As long as they win, what do they care? They already saw that they can get away with murder in the past 8 years.

 
Truncks1 2008-08-31 01:10:40 PM  
Saw her interview on CNBC and all she did was talk about alaska and drilling.

/snore

I would have liked Lieberman. meh

 
maxheck 2008-08-31 01:12:08 PM  
That would have been an interesting ticket...

McCain / Lieberman - Eschaton 2009

 
bulldg4life [TotalFark] 2008-08-31 01:12:18 PM  
Lackofname: What has McCain done that's "Maverick" in the last five years, anyhow?

He picked a woman to be his VP. That's maverick-y

 
Mentat [TotalFark] 2008-08-31 01:13:47 PM  
Panic pick!

 
Tsunami Ditka 2008-08-31 01:14:54 PM  
Mentat: Panic pick!

Bears bolded and embiggened repetition.

 
Aar1012 [TotalFark] 2008-08-31 01:15:24 PM  
Truncks1: I would have liked Lieberman. meh

If you think about it, having Lieberman stay in the Senate wouldn't be a bad idea. If McCain were to win then he would have the VP and Lieberman in the Senate for controversial votes. This would be a great asset if the democrats retain the senate

 
RemyDuron 2008-08-31 01:21:14 PM  
Tsunami Ditka: Newsflash! John McCain is only a maverick when he's not trying to get elected!! It's shocking, I know, but take a couple of deep breaths and you should be fine.

John McCain is only a maverick for a little while, then he folds and quietly goes along with the party when the media has stopped paying attention.

Palin is a "get me elected" VP. She was the right choice when it comes to winning the election if they can keep the bad press down. She would not make a good president. She's an anti-abortionist and anti-evolution, I don't even need to bring up here could-be scandal to find reasons to immediately want her as far away from Washington as possible.

/I'd like her to be somewhere like. . . Alaska.

 
margarito bandito 2008-08-31 01:30:52 PM  
So with the man himself not coming to the convention, any chance of a mutiny? Meaning the delegates get outraged and we have a Romney/Pawlenty ticket next week?

 
Wrong_Intentions 2008-08-31 01:31:29 PM  
RemyDuron: Palin is a "get me elected" VP. She was the right choice when it comes to winning the election if they can keep the bad press down. She would not make a good president.

Considering McCain's age and the high stress job he's going for, Palin more than most potential veeps needs to be ready to take of as POTUS. FWIW, Obama at least picked a running mate who could figure out his way around the big job if so needed.

 
Aldo the Wonder Dog 2008-08-31 01:31:59 PM  
Having lived in CT for many years, I often enjoyed Joe's unpredictableness from a purely political perspective. And he would've been endlessly entertaining in his inimitable goofy droopy dog way. But he would've cost that ticket many more votes than he would've brought. I think we've seen in the last eight years what "loyalty above all" can do to an administration.

And "Jew? No!" sounds just like Juneau.

 
LordJiro 2008-08-31 01:34:10 PM  
God, knowing the Republican tendency to play the ____ card whenever possible, this general election is gonna be a repeat of the Primaries. "You're not voting for McCain because he has a *woman* on the ticket!"

 
falcon176 2008-08-31 01:35:32 PM  
SilentStrider: So the Maverick was Goosed by the Icemen?

Tsunami Ditka: Newsflash! John McCain is only a maverick when he's not trying to get elected!! It's shocking, I know, but take a couple of deep breaths and you should be fine.

Lackofname: What has McCain done that's "Maverick" in the last five years, anyhow?

 
suebhoney 2008-08-31 01:38:14 PM  
margarito bandito: So with the man himself not coming to the convention, any chance of a mutiny? Meaning the delegates get outraged and we have a Romney/Pawlenty ticket next week?

I'd be rofl.

 
Falcc 2008-08-31 01:38:15 PM  
Aldo the Wonder Dog: Having lived in CT for many years, I often enjoyed Joe's unpredictableness from a purely political perspective. And he would've been endlessly entertaining in his inimitable goofy droopy dog way. But he would've cost that ticket many more votes than he would've brought. I think we've seen in the last eight years what "loyalty above all" can do to an administration.

And "Jew? No!" sounds just like Juneau.



images.icanhascheezburger.com

/obligatory

 
uncoveror 2008-08-31 01:39:53 PM  
Gore would have won by a theft-proof margin in 2000 if it weren't for antisemitism. There was just no way the Republicans were going to make the same mistake the Democrats did 8 years ago. The American electorate will not tolerate a candidate who does not pray to Jesus. End of story.

 
dknips 2008-08-31 01:41:29 PM  
So, basically there are people so delusional in this country that they think that the most important issue our next president will have to deal with is overturning Roe v. Wade?

Here is how I imagine their thought process:
- Elect extremely pro-lifers
- Wait for the Grim Reaper to visit 88-year-old Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens
- appoint anti-abortion Justice
- celebrate one tiny narrow-minded conservative victory and pray that McCain doesn't break a hip so that the Mayor of bumfarknowhere isn't our commander in chief.

I don't understand the strategy of selecting a Vice Presidential candidate when you are clearly planning a one-term presidency...

At first, I could handle either Obama or McCain taking over, despite ideological differences, they both come off as competent leaders...Palin scares the hell out of me.

 
FooDog 2008-08-31 01:42:18 PM  
So here's a thought. Take Palin's full resume and biography, replace the first name with something masculine, reverse all gender references and hand in to John McCain's vetting committee. Does anyone honestly think that Palin then would have been their final pick if this had been the case? Over Romney? Over Ridge? Over Pawlenty? I doubt it.

 
Wrong_Intentions 2008-08-31 01:43:45 PM  
uncoveror: The American electorate will not tolerate a candidate who does not pray to Jesus. End of story.

Absolutely. As much as I may be fond of this country and consider it to be a land of equality, it bothers me that I, an atheist, would be practically excluded from being POTUS/VPOTUS. Not that I'd want the damn job anyways.

 
moralpanic 2008-08-31 01:45:14 PM  
He was hoping Rush, Hannity, and all the other nutjobs would help get him elected. Unfortunately, they have the same favorable rating that Bush does.

 
bulok 2008-08-31 01:50:36 PM  
Wrong_Intentions: uncoveror: The American electorate will not tolerate a candidate who does not pray to Jesus. End of story.

Absolutely. As much as I may be fond of this country and consider it to be a land of equality, it bothers me that I, an atheist, would be practically excluded from being POTUS/VPOTUS. Not that I'd want the damn job anyways.


No you're not excluded, you are free to run, it's just that you'd be a poor representative of the majority of people.

 
PopeSkeletor 2008-08-31 01:51:07 PM  
So McCain claims that he'll keep us safe from terrorists, but he can't even stand up to the religious nutjobs in his own party. Interesting.

 
moralpanic 2008-08-31 01:53:39 PM  
I'm still absolutely floored he made this decision on a single interview on the night before he announced her (from reading the timeline, i'm thinking it's actually the same day). I've gone through more streneous job interviews than that. Unreal.

 
Tsunami Ditka 2008-08-31 01:55:54 PM  
falcon176: SilentStrider: So the Maverick was Goosed by the Icemen?

Tsunami Ditka: Newsflash! John McCain is only a maverick when he's not trying to get elected!! It's shocking, I know, but take a couple of deep breaths and you should be fine.

Lackofname: What has McCain done that's "Maverick" in the last five years, anyhow?


Wow. I bet that was hard work.

 
NYZooMan 2008-08-31 01:57:58 PM  
There aren't enough defibrillators should he have picked Lieberman.

 
Corvus 2008-08-31 01:59:58 PM  
Who is going to whisper in McCain's ear now to correct him if he becomes president?

 
Shvetz 2008-08-31 02:04:38 PM  
moralpanic: I'm still absolutely floored he made this decision on a single interview on the night before he announced her (from reading the timeline, i'm thinking it's actually the same day). I've gone through more streneous job interviews than that. Unreal.

Read the article... McCain didn't make the decision. His advisers did. She was vetted well before that telephone call.

 
Joesama 2008-08-31 02:05:39 PM  
moralpanic: I'm still absolutely floored he made this decision on a single interview on the night before he announced her (from reading the timeline, i'm thinking it's actually the same day). I've gone through more streneous job interviews than that. Unreal.

Kinda like how he picked his replacement wife.

 
NoOrdinaryRabbit 2008-08-31 02:06:10 PM  
bulldg4life: Lackofname: What has McCain done that's "Maverick" in the last five years, anyhow?

He picked a woman to be his VP. That's maverick-y


Wow - he's as maverick-y as Walter Mondale was 24 years ago.

 
ifarkthereforiam 2008-08-31 02:08:50 PM  
This may be the best McCain could come up with. His overtures to the fundies were pretty much rejected by the big dollar preachers. She will open them up to supporting McCain. His Maverick image (and that is all it is) will be enhanced. And he seems to believe that women will move en masse to vote for a fellow woman.

On the other hand it does kill his experience argument, unless you feel someone who successfully managed the local Taco bell for 1.5 years is qualified to be the corporate CEO.

 
Tsunami Ditka 2008-08-31 02:11:23 PM  
Shvetz: moralpanic: I'm still absolutely floored he made this decision on a single interview on the night before he announced her (from reading the timeline, i'm thinking it's actually the same day). I've gone through more streneous job interviews than that. Unreal.

Read the article... McCain didn't make the decision. His advisers did. She was vetted well before that telephone call.


Honestly, so what? What does that tell us? That he doesn't make his own decisions? That's real great. She might have been vetted, but then you're just saying that she was vetted like crazy and McCain STILL picked someone who has no business running the nation should he keel over on January 21st.

 
Tsunami Ditka 2008-08-31 02:12:59 PM  
If you're picking a new CEO for your company, is the guy who's been in middle management for a year and a half automatically a better choice than the guy who's been on the board of directors for three?

 
Wrong_Intentions 2008-08-31 02:13:50 PM  
bulok: it's just that you'd be a poor representative of the majority of people.

So are rich Ivy League grads. Hasn't kept them out of the Oval Office.

 
Death to America 2008-08-31 02:14:43 PM  
I did too, but it would of been too awkward and too transparent. The same people who are directing our foreign policy (against the will of the people) and dumbing down/cencoring our media will still be in charge. Allegience to Israel still trumps what's good for the country in the long term.

 
Tsunami Ditka 2008-08-31 02:17:08 PM  
Death to America: I did too, but it would of been too awkward and too transparent. The same people who are directing our foreign policy (against the will of the people) and dumbing down/cencoring our media will still be in charge. Allegience to Israel still trumps what's good for the country in the long term.

Well to be fair, it's not as if any of the Founding Fathers ever warned us that it's not a good idea to closely tie ourselves with other nations.

/hey, wait a minute...

 
neehurtz [TotalFark] 2008-08-31 02:23:50 PM  
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