Useless without tapestries.

The canals sank into the swamp?

oldebayer: The canals sank into the swamp?

but they built another one, and that one sank into the swap too.

/dont worry, one day, it will all be yours
//no, not the curtains

testaclese: Useless without tapestries.

Now buttle off and tell Baron von Gruswald that we're here to view the tapestries.

Thank ye gods, I looketh thy world over for mine canals.

Subby: 500 years ago

FTA: eight hundred years

?

/good headline, though.

Nice bit of info, but NO pics NO good......

Oh, neat. I was wondering where I left that.

Subby made me laugh.

Phil the SWO
Now buttle off and tell Baron von Gruswald that we're here to view the tapestries.

If you're a Scottish lord then I'm Mickey Mouse

LemSkroob: oldebayer: The canals sank into the swamp?

but they built another one, and that one sank into the swap too.

/dont worry, one day, it will all be yours
//no, not the curtains

But I want to sing!

Mine was in my couch cushions, thanks

I'm confused. Did they know about the canals beforehand and just didn't know where they are? Or is the discovery of the canals the first anyone has heard about a huge engineering project that would rival the industrial revolution. Just seems weird that something like that would be forgotten.

mrkevt: Nice bit of info, but NO pics NO good......

Well... they're *somewhere* in this pic.

insertdip: I'm confused. Did they know about the canals beforehand and just didn't know where they are? Or is the discovery of the canals the first anyone has heard about a huge engineering project that would rival the industrial revolution. Just seems weird that something like that would be forgotten.

Uh, a 60 mile canal hardly rivals the industrial revolution. You might want to ease back on your hyperbole settings.

FrancoFile: insertdip: I'm confused. Did they know about the canals beforehand and just didn't know where they are? Or is the discovery of the canals the first anyone has heard about a huge engineering project that would rival the industrial revolution. Just seems weird that something like that would be forgotten.

Uh, a 60 mile canal hardly rivals the industrial revolution. You might want to ease back on your hyperbole settings.

FTA "Experts said the network of waterways represented an achievement not matched until the Industrial Revolution 300 years later."

insertdib

FTA "Experts said the network of waterways represented an achievement not matched until the Industrial Revolution 300 years later."


I think what that means is that nothing on that scale was produced until something bigger was produced during the industrial revolution, not that the thing bigger was the industrial revolution

HOORAY!

/scrambles to find his receipt

Bandman614: insertdib

FTA "Experts said the network of waterways represented an achievement not matched until the Industrial Revolution 300 years later."


I think what that means is that nothing on that scale was produced until something bigger was produced during the industrial revolution, not that the thing bigger was the industrial revolution

Thats sounds about right

I read that as a 60-mile carnal network...

/Had already begun packing.
//Giggity

FrancoFile: LemSkroob: oldebayer: The canals sank into the swamp?

but they built another one, and that one sank into the swap too.

/dont worry, one day, it will all be yours
//no, not the curtains

But I want to sing


Always makes me think of Chad Pennington (or vice versa, I guess)

Are these canals connected to huge... tracts of land?

I raced in the Lincolnshire 500. Finished 3rd. Just sayin'.

Short writeup on the history of canals in England;

Canal Junction (new window)

Good map of the Canal Infrastructure of England;

Jim Shead's Waterways Map (new window)

One of my dreams is to buy one of these; Narrowboat (new window), and cruise the network for a few years.

Judging by the region, there already was an excessive amount of water there. it would have only been natural to use it to their benefit in building their canal. Other cultures have worked a lot harder for a lot less, so this really does not surprise me. In my area, there was a 1.5 mile canal dug about 120-130 years ago to drain a large section section of wetlands for agricultural purposes. At this point, a lot of people you mention it to has no idea where it is or that it even existed. Basically 350 years between that one and when canals in that area started being used does not surprise me at all.

/Knows of a small village lost in WEST Lincolnshire
//Obscure? Not on fark...

To say nothing of the dog.

Help-Im-Sober: Short writeup on the history of canals in England;

Canal Junction (new window)

Good map of the Canal Infrastructure of England;

Jim Shead's Waterways Map (new window)

One of my dreams is to buy one of these; Narrowboat (new window), and cruise the network for a few years.

Judging by the region, there already was an excessive amount of water there. it would have only been natural to use it to their benefit in building their canal. Other cultures have worked a lot harder for a lot less, so this really does not surprise me. In my area, there was a 1.5 mile canal dug about 120-130 years ago to drain a large section section of wetlands for agricultural purposes. At this point, a lot of people you mention it to has no idea where it is or that it even existed. Basically 350 years between that one the one in the article and when canals in that area started being used does not surprise me at all.

/There, FTFM

Choo-Choo Bear: Subby: 500 years ago

FTA: eight hundred years

?

/good headline, though.

Seriously. I read the headline and then the article, and thought, that's odd, because 500 years ago there would have been no monks in England to need to rebuild monasteries, let alone Vikings. There would have been plenty of ruined monasteries, though.

/British History Nerd

HowAboutNo: Thank ye gods, I looketh thy world over for mine canals.

LordJiro: Oh, neat. I was wondering where I left that.

Ya know...if you guys would put things away in their proper place when you are done with them...

Thats where I put it.

Philogogus

Little Dunny on the Wold?

/and good evening Colin
//subby...missed the 800 year ref in the story, guessed industrial revolution was early 1800s, saw that this happened 300 years before it and came up with 500 years. Sorry.

So THAT'S where I put it!

Black Adder was so damn funny, and sooooooooooooo very much better than Mr. Bean. Why hasn't that sod been able to match his previous funny?

Actually, finding stuff like this isn't new. There is a whole sub-specialty of archaeology called aerial archaeology. They have located old Roman roads, villas and forts in England with it.

Part of it is summed up in the saying, "There is nothing so permanent as a hole." Sure, you can fill a hole, or a trench or even a canal back in, but that fill is going to be different from the surrounding, undisturbed soil. For one, it will retain water longer. So, if there is a dry spell, you fly over an area and the holes, ditches, canals will show uo as greener than the surrounding vegetation. On the reverse, if there is a wall that has been covered over, the vegetatioin above it will be stunted and that shows up very clearly from the air, as well.

superluminal girl: Choo-Choo Bear: Subby: 500 years ago

FTA: eight hundred years

?

/good headline, though.

Seriously. I read the headline and then the article, and thought, that's odd, because 500 years ago there would have been no monks in England to need to rebuild monasteries, let alone Vikings. There would have been plenty of ruined monasteries, though.

/British History Nerd

I think your both right because it seems the article contradicts itself. At the beginning it says 300 years LATER, which the IR was 200 years ago so that's 500 years. But further down in the article it mentions 800 years of flooding. I'm confused.

Aulus: Actually, finding stuff like this isn't new. There is a whole sub-specialty of archaeology called aerial archaeology.

I guess those rooftop TV antennae really have become history.

This is pure speculation on my part, but it would make sense for this to be a kind of early version of the Witham Navigable Drains since Witham is a long inhabited place with a surplus of water forming little rivers naturally.

superluminal girl:
...

/British History Nerd

How you doin'?

insertdip: FrancoFile: insertdip: I'm confused. Did they know about the canals beforehand and just didn't know where they are? Or is the discovery of the canals the first anyone has heard about a huge engineering project that would rival the industrial revolution. Just seems weird that something like that would be forgotten.

Uh, a 60 mile canal hardly rivals the industrial revolution. You might want to ease back on your hyperbole settings.

FTA "Experts said the network of waterways represented an achievement not matched until the Industrial Revolution 300 years later."

I think these "experts" might want to review a bit more history, because the Great Wall of China beats the crap out of this ditch, and has been around a lot longer.

Well obviously it wasn't Time Team that found it as it was a bit more substantial than the usual shard of pottery they seem end up with after 3 days work.

Shire Reeve: I read that as a 60-mile carnal network...

Ooohh! Me too! Weird.

/Not really.
//Hitler.

What, nobody happened to fly over this area in an airplane before? Or maybe they just didn't happen to glance down?

I blame the bushes.

StormDawg: What, nobody happened to fly over this area in an airplane before? Or maybe they just didn't happen to glance down?

I guess the 60-mile carnal network extended into the air, and everyone was busy joining the mile-high club.

What, nobody happened to fly over this area in an airplane before? Or maybe they just didn't happen to glance down?

Many times it has to be at the right time of the year or season. Some times these things ony show up with raking light, as when the sun is setting or rising. See Leo Deuel's book, Flights Into Yesterday: The Story of Aerial Archaeology .

superluminal girl: Choo-Choo Bear: Subby: 500 years ago

FTA: eight hundred years

?

/good headline, though.

Seriously. I read the headline and then the article, and thought, that's odd, because 500 years ago there would have been no monks in England to need to rebuild monasteries, let alone Vikings. There would have been plenty of ruined monasteries, though.

/British History Nerd

'Fraid not, kiddo: dissolution didn't start 'til the 1530s.

/the more you know

Since someone mentioned the dissolution of the Monastaries, check out the fantastic "Shardlake" series of historical novels by C.J. Sansom.

"Dissolution" is the first one, and is pretty good. The second and 3rd books are even better. Historical detective novels set in Tudor England. Learn about history and be entertained at the same time.

/win

mrkevt:
Nice bit of info, but NO pics NO good......

Having seen the pictures from the air, I tell you that unless you know what you are looking at they aren't going to do you any good anyway.

Brockway: Hmmmm. One of my ancestral families (Newton) were probably canal type folks, back in the day. There is record of John Newton working the Ayre in the 1200s. My ancestors almost certainly worked the Ouse in the middle ages.

/Yorkshire canals, biatches

One part of my family is named after a vik in Norway.One of the relations has traced the family to around 800 AD.

/Never mind the pillage
//Here's the Engesvik!
///will take credit for the canal.

The Great Wall of China beats the hell out of this ditch.

No the GRAND CANAL of China is what beats the heck out this ditch.

But I find the English Canal system fascinating too. ^__^ The older I get the more I appreciate history!

Rob