I think everyone by now is well aware of Obama's penchant for throwing his friends under the wheels of the bus.

Isn't the "It's not my fault" mentality one of those things we here on Fark abhore and mock?

/It's said that the road to office was littered with the bodies of Sarah Palins opponents, looks like the road to office is littered with the friends and allies of Obama :P

CanisNoir: Isn't the "It's not my fault" mentality one of those things we here on Fark abhore and mock?

Let me guess. When someone shows you a diamond, you see a rock, right?

CanisNoir: I think everyone by now is well aware of Obama's penchant for throwing his friends under the wheels of the bus.

It's ridiculous. When Obama says "(Insert controversial person) doesn't speak for me, he's wrong", he's accused of throwing people under the bus for politics.

When he says "I may not agree with this person, but they're still my friend" (like he did with Ayers), he's accused of being an evil terrorist-lover.

Fact of the matter is, most of the people accusing Obama of either wouldn't vote for him anyways, and are just concern trolling.

John Paul Jones: CanisNoir: Isn't the "It's not my fault" mentality one of those things we here on Fark abhore and mock?

Let me guess. When someone shows you a diamond, you see a rock, right?

Only because diamond starts with D.

well at least Obama isn't being corrected by his staff ^{(^)} eh?
maybe they'll let Sarah have a cellphone.

Funny headline.

Since when did being popular and having a huge devoted following become a bad thing?

you people do realize that when you make those remarks that it only makes you appear jealous. and petty.
Do you really think people believe you wouldn't love to have such a charismatic and inspirational leader?

psst. hey GOP..being popular and getting the most votes is what a successful campaign is supposed to do.
your mocking of that is as transparent as glass.

Meatzilla: I meant to say what I didn't actually say but trust me I'd have
said what I wanted to say if I knew how people would react before I
said it when I'm thinking what I want to say but said something
different

Yeah, I want the most powerful person on Earth to never change their mind, no matter what new "facts" or "advice" they get. Pick the wrong choice and stick with it, dammit!

Hobodeluxe: Since when did being popular and having a huge devoted following become a bad thing?

you people do realize that when you make those remarks that it only makes you appear jealous. and petty.
Do you really think people believe you wouldn't love to have such a charismatic and inspirational leader?

psst. hey GOP..being popular and getting the most votes is what a successful campaign is supposed to do.
your mocking of that is as transparent as glass.

That would make perfect sense... if Obama was actually an
experienced and qualified leader who wasn't launched into pop
celebrity rockstar status by the same people who use the same
tactics to make 'stars' out of no talent hacks overnight on a
regular basis.

psst. hey democrats..he's 1000x more Milli-Vanilli and Ashley
Simpson combined than charismatic and inspirational leader

Occam's Chainsaw: John Paul Jones: CanisNoir: Isn't the "It's not my fault" mentality one of those things we here on Fark abhore and mock?

Let me guess. When someone shows you a diamond, you see a rock, right?

Only because diamond starts with D.

LOL, you magnificant bastard!

I have to admit, the Palin pick has me energized and honestly admitting to voting Republican this time 'round.

/I suppose when you see a diamond you see murdered Africans?
//Yea it was weak, but it's late for me.

CanisNoir: LOL, you magnificant bastard!

TY, TY. *bows* I missed the opportunity for the double play:

"Of course, if you showed him a ruby, he'd say that it was a beautiful work of natural art, a priceless object to be treasured for all time."

Meatzilla: That would make perfect sense... if Obama was actually an
experienced and qualified leader who wasn't launched into pop
celebrity rockstar status by the same people who use the same
tactics to make 'stars' out of no talent hacks overnight on a
regular basis.

psst. hey democrats..he's 1000x more Milli-Vanilli and Ashley
Simpson combined than charismatic and inspirational leader

Your concern... I've noted it.

Meatzilla: psst. hey democrats..he's 1000x more Milli-Vanilli and Ashley
Simpson combined than charismatic and inspirational leader

The "Celebrity" approach? That is SO three weeks ago.

/Protip: Major-Party candidates for POTUS are, by definition, celebrities
//The "My opponent sucks, so vote for me!" approach isn't the best way to win.

smooshie: CanisNoir: I think everyone by now is well aware of Obama's penchant for throwing his friends under the wheels of the bus.

It's ridiculous. When Obama says "(Insert controversial person) doesn't speak for me, he's wrong", he's accused of throwing people under the bus for politics.

When he says "I may not agree with this person, but they're still my friend" (like he did with Ayers), he's accused of being an evil terrorist-lover.

Fact of the matter is, most of the people accusing Obama of either wouldn't vote for him anyways, and are just concern trolling.

Those people will never be happy with anything Obama says, even if it was 100% true. They will always take the opposite stance because Obama sides with it the other way. If he said that the sky is blue, they will deny it so they can continue to be anti-Obama. Sounds really cultist-like to me.

/Why do they hate Obama so much?
//Is it because he has a 'D' for his political affiliation?

Hobodeluxe: Since when did being popular and having a huge devoted following become a bad thing?

The rule is, when it's a candidate you are voting for, he's popular. When it's a candidate you aren't voting for, it's a cult.

/and very likely un-American.

NeverDrunk23: /Why do they hate Obama so much?

Because acting like deliberately obtuse idiots is how they get people to pay attention to them in anonymous discussion boards.

NeverDrunk23: /Why do they hate Obama so much?
//Is it because he has a 'D' for his political affiliation?

Yes.

Meatzilla: I meant to say what I didn't actually say but trust me I'd have
said what I wanted to say if I knew how people would react before I
said it when I'm thinking what I want to say but said something
different

So I guess McCain's people are binded to him as well. That means McCain thinks we're a nation of whiners.

And he's a lobbyist for every communications firm.

NeverDrunk23: /Why do they hate Obama so much?
//Is it because he has a 'D' for his political affiliation?

They like to pretend they have other reasons, but then they sit like drooling retards and present word for word what Fox news is currently peddling. These f*cking imbeciles picked a team like you would with high school football and it's all they care about.

Watching Conservatives blow a gasket as they lose control of the nation and their own ability to get elected is highly enjoyable.

Please, continue. Get more and more upset about Obama. It'll just be more enjoyable in the end.

Obama's campaign doesn't speak for him.

McCain doesn't speak for his campaign.

Which one describes a better leader?

Mordant: NeverDrunk23: /Why do they hate Obama so much?
//Is it because he has a 'D' for his political affiliation?

They like to pretend they have other reasons, but then they sit like drooling retards and present word for word what Fox news is currently peddling. These f*cking imbeciles picked a team like you would with high school football and it's all they care about.

Judging from the responses against Obama on Fark, where people use 'reasons' like he's elitist, Muslim, popular, young, not Republican to not vote for him and how they have shown to be completely and blatantly hypocritical every step of the way, I would have to say that you hit the nail on the head with that one.

Ronald Reagan had large adoring crowds, slickly produced conventions, and made much use of soaring rhetoric when speaking in public.

CanisNoir: I have to admit, the Palin pick has me energized and honestly admitting to voting Republican this time 'round.

Wow. That's almost funny.

Grandmaster Poopypants: Obama's campaign doesn't speak for him.

McCain doesn't speak for his campaign.

Which one describes a better leader?

QFT, bears repeating. Cue cute lil bear photoshop.

CanisNoir: I have to admit, the Palin pick has me energized and honestly admitting to voting Republican this time 'round.

Why?

Honestly. I'd be interested in what you find so appealing about her. In particular, I'd like to know what exactly you think she'd attempt to accomplish as Vice President.

King Something: The "Celebrity" approach? That is SO three weeks ago.

Palin is John McCain's reality TV star to Obama's celebrity.

I read TFA and gathered that Obama thinks that even the best and most capable leaders need to be backed up by a well-organized and hyper-competent staff.

That's not rhetoric, that's common sense. If you disagree, you are a complete idiot and deserve your job stocking shelves at Wal-Mart.

LocalCynic: CanisNoir: I have to admit, the Palin pick has me energized and honestly admitting to voting Republican this time 'round.

Why?

Honestly. I'd be interested in what you find so appealing about her. In particular, I'd like to know what exactly you think she'd attempt to accomplish as Vice President.

Oh jebus, he has been gushing and fawning over this nobody for the last 12 hours or so. Please don't get him started again. Testicles don't fill up that quickly.

Meatzilla: Obama makes Kerry look like a solid decision maker

Well, McCain makes Bush look sane, so that's a wash.

CanisNoir: I have to admit, the Palin pick has me energized and honestly admitting to voting Republican this time 'round.

Which is evidence that it is a poor pick. Conservative men love her. Independent women are going to loathe her.

You need to understand who the battleground state undecided voters are. They are independent. They are women. They live in the suburbs.

If you think that picking a hot woman for window dressing is going to sway those women, you are smoking something that you should pass my way.

Bogart.

smooshie: act of the matter is, most of the people accusing Obama of either wouldn't vote for him anyways, and are just concern trolling.

This.

Conservatives will throw a tantrum no matter what Obama does. Better to simply discipline the little shiats and send them to their room than listen to their whining.

I have to honestly say that I admire a leader that is not afraid to correct situations and control the staff message. It is much better than when a staff takes over, as in the case of McCain, and show what complete incompetence is at the helm of the campaign.

As far as those energized by Sarah Palin, I only have this to say . . . .LOL!!!! Give me a break!! Anyone that can seriously picture her staring down Putin and working out a peace treaty are probably already voting for John McCain. It is NO loss to Obama.

Tor_Eckman: Oh jebus, he has been gushing and fawning over this nobody for the last 12 hours or so. Please don't get him started again. Testicles don't fill up that quickly.

Honestly, I'd just like to hear an answer to that question. People seem to be excited about her biography. The press and the GOP are milking that as much as possible, and doing very little to talk about what exactly she'd do as VP. Frankly, they're minimizing expectations and suggesting that she wouldn't
do much except get "trained" by John McCain.

Palin is certainly the anti-Hillary, not simply because of her opposing views, but in approach as well. Hillary was an outstanding candidate because she was incredibly smart and able to master nearly any policy issue. She was famous for being able to shake hands and do small talk one minute, then be able to segue into an in-depth discussion on arms control or health care or economics.

Palin is a generic process candidate. She offers minimal opinion on issues but suggests that she'll rock the boat. That just doesn't do it for me. The last eight years revealed that the Vice President is incredibly important. Picking someone who didn't have any opinion whatsoever about the Iraq war doesn't bode well.

CanisNoir: I think everyone by now is well aware of Obama's penchant for throwing his friends under the wheels of the bus.

Isn't the "It's not my fault" mentality one of those things we here on Fark abhore and mock?

/It's said that the road to office was littered with the bodies of Sarah Palins opponents, looks like the road to office is littered with the friends and allies of Obama :P

He calls out his staffers who don't toe the line. I don't see a problem with that at all. If he suddenly shifted position to cover for a staffer--that's a big problem. It doesn't make sense for him to take blame for something he didn't and wouldn't do. I don't agree with all of Obama's positions, but I think the way he conducts himself is admirable.

If Odrama's lips are moving he's spinning lies.Wake up America be fore its too late.Nothing but a bunch of Odrama Zombies-saying the same shiat.FDR-CARTER-talk about same old.Its not about DemoCANTS or RepubliCANS-Its about AMERICA period.We need to put AMERICA and its people first-Lets try something OLD-like putting aside out diffrences and come together as a COUNTRY Like we were once apon a time.I am old enough to remember.Some of you should go back and brush up on your history,United we stand-otherwise we fail.And we are on the ledge with our feet hanging off-Be very carefull

i think it shows a level of integrity with obama himself not only to back away from the tone if he didn't like it, but to admit why it happened without spinning it to make it a positive for him or his campaign.

this is honesty in politics.

It's a common strategy.

First you have one of your staff issue a scathing ridicule of your opponents pick, which gets a large amount of press. Then you come out and take the high road.

You look like a decent guy while the negative stuff stays in the back of peoples minds.

Genius.

This doesn't surprise me a bit.

The worst Obama can be accused of is having an overzealous staff that is occasionally incompetent.

Yes, as a leader the blame rests on him, and I believe he takes responsibility for it; he needs to hire better people and make sure they stick to the message and do no harm. But anyone that freaks out after reading this has obviously never been put in a serious position of leadership before.

sobeit233: If Odrama's lips are moving he's spinning lies.Wake up America be fore its too late.Nothing but a bunch of Odrama Zombies-saying the same shiat.FDR-CARTER-talk about same old.Its not about DemoCANTS or RepubliCANS-Its about AMERICA period.We need to put AMERICA and its people first-Lets try something OLD-like putting aside out diffrences and come together as a COUNTRY Like we were once apon a time.I am old enough to remember.Some of you should go back and brush up on your history,United we stand-otherwise we fail.And we are on the ledge with our feet hanging off-Be very carefull

What is this, YouTube!?

Just cus she has tits and looks like MILF is NOT a reason to handle her with Kid Gloves. We are in a recession and our nation is "Made in China", owned by China and losing its identity and position of power in the world.
If the GOP or DNC make stupid choices that reflect their desire to win NO MATTER THE COST, it is MORE OF THE SAME.
God, how stupid.
Obama isn't going to get everything he wants, no President does, but at least he has the REAL, TESTED and EDUCATED experience to know that and chose VP with REAL, TESTED and PROVEN experience ot have his back in a pinch.
A stupid, base appeal, "Screw the Factrs" choice is still a stupid choice whether it has breasts or not and should be called out!

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Damn him for being in control of his campaign and expecting his people to follow his lead! He should just sit quietly in the corner like McCain and let other people make his decisions for him.

Link (new window)Barack has waffles (too funny and fitting and bacon. Can Moose-lims eat bacon? Enough with that talk please.

Hobodeluxe: Since when did being popular and having a huge devoted following become a bad thing?

Since it was anyone but Reagan or Bush circa 2001.

BTW, maybe the real reason she was chosen was because she is a SHE and she has a newborn retarded (Downes) child. Who wants to be called "Mean" critiquing her"?
That is like a giant "Sheild of Invincibility".
Just another Karl Rovian "People are to stupid to see beyond the smoke and Mirrors" nod to the Jesus Robots.
Egads.

sobeit233: If Odrama's lips are moving he's spinning lies.Wake up America be fore its too late.Nothing but a bunch of Odrama Zombies-saying the same shiat.FDR-CARTER-talk about same old.Its not about DemoCANTS or RepubliCANS-Its about AMERICA period.We need to put AMERICA and its people first-Lets try something OLD-like putting aside out diffrences and come together as a COUNTRY Like we were once apon a time.I am old enough to remember.Some of you should go back and brush up on your history,United we stand-otherwise we fail.And we are on the ledge with our feet hanging off-Be very carefull

Okay, it was funny the first time. Now I just feel sorry for you.

And, BTW even GOD is tired of the GOP.
He threw TWO Hurricanes at the US to distract us from their convention.
I guess Bush forgot to sacrifice his lamb to Jesus for the last two elections.