This is just as stupid and wrong as Americans writing about British politics.

At the very least, her appointment, which came as a total surprise, makes a fitting end to what has been both the most high-tech, as well as the most unpredictable, American primary season in memory.

...and the top of the GOP ticket has admitted that he's never really used a computer.

but Bill Clinton - though he can't possibly have been happy about giving it - made a superb speech, deliberately noting that he, too, was once called "inexperienced".

That strikes me as odd. Why would Bill have mentioned inexperience if he didn't know about Palin yet ? As I understand it, the evil Dems were the ones who started playing that card against the noble and ever persecuted Republicans... and yet somehow he managed to get the first shot in before anyone even knew there was a gun.

Strange.

I believe that Senator Obama has a few more magic tricks up his sleeve.

VelcroFez: I believe that Senator Obama has a few more magic tricks up his sleeve.

like not having a candidacy built on gimmicks?

Mordant: and yet somehow he managed to get the first shot in before anyone even knew there was a gun.

To be fair, the man is a Rhodes Scholar and presided over the single greatest period of American social and economic expansion ever. He's many things, but he's certainly not dumb.

This after the most amazing acceptance speech I've seen delivered in my lifetime? hahahaha!

Sorry. This article is all sorts of wrong.

Just like Whitney Houston.

I overheard a lady in the supermarket who said it best.

"McCain thinks women are stupid".

Yes he does..

newmoonpuppyhead: This after the most amazing acceptance speech I've seen delivered in my lifetime? hahahaha!

Sorry. This article is all sorts of sometimes wrong.

FTFM

burndtdan: like not having a candidacy built on gimmicks?

Obama proved in the primaries that he can master a foolproof ground organization that leaves everyone else in the dust. And that was all him.

Mayor Palin "isn't like anyone in the Bush administration?"

Neither on positions nor gender is Palin different from anyone in the Bush administration.

Pending confirmation of Dick Cheney's position on creationism in science class, for one thing, she's more Goddamned conservative than Dick himself.

PC LOAD LETTER: This is just as stupid and wrong as Americans writing about British politics.

Nothing wrong with an outside opinion. I didn't rtfa, I just wanted to say that British newspapers writing about American Politics or American newspapers writing about British politics isn't a bad thing.

Slaxl: I didn't rtfa, I just wanted to say that British newspapers writing about American Politics or American newspapers writing about British politics isn't a bad thing.

it's not, but they both tend to come off as completely ignorant of each others' process as they're completely different.

VelcroFez: burndtdan: like not having a candidacy built on gimmicks?

Obama proved in the primaries that he can master a foolproof ground organization that leaves everyone else in the dust. And that was all him.

i think his ground game is going to be the november surprise. i wouldn't be surprised if his voter turnout set some sort of record.

i'm not going so far as to predict it, but i think it is a distinct possibility.

Does anyone know how Hillary Clinton responded to the Palin vp pick?

It would seem to destroy her legacy as a trailblaser.

burndtdan: VelcroFez: I believe that Senator Obama has a few more magic tricks up his sleeve.

like not having a candidacy built on gimmicks?

Did you get your 3:00 AM text message?

elliottp: Does anyone know how Hillary Clinton responded to the Palin vp pick?

It would seem to destroy her legacy as a trailblaser.

All she's done is send out the expected two-paragraph congratulations press release. So far.

If the ENORMOUS 9% of Democratic women who are thinking of voting for The Ticket to Nowhere blossom into say, a GIGANTIC 10 or 12 percent? You'll see Hillary on the trail.

muck4doo: burndtdan: VelcroFez: I believe that Senator Obama has a few more magic tricks up his sleeve.

like not having a candidacy built on gimmicks?

Did you get your 3:00 AM text message?

Yes, because a text message is EXACTLY THE SAME as having a nobody with zero experience as first-in-line for POTUS should a 72-year-old heart fail. Fail, return to the back of the comparison line.

robsul82: Mayor Governor Palin "isn't like anyone in the Bush administration?"

Neither on positions nor gender is Palin different from anyone in the Bush administration.

Pending confirmation of Dick Cheney's position on creationism in science class, for one thing, she's more Goddamned conservative than Dick himself.

FTFY

burndtdan: i think his ground game is going to be the november surprise. i wouldn't be surprised if his voter turnout set some sort of record.

i'm not going so far as to predict it, but i think it is a distinct possibility.

It's a possibility, but again (as in the past two Presidential cycles) the Democratic Party is relying on the youth vote, and they simply *don't* go out and vote on rainy November Tuesdays.

To win, they need to appeal to the following three groups:

* older voters
* women voters
* 20% of the opposing party's voters.

and it's going to be a pretty tough nut for the Obama campaign to crack. Obama has to survive the debates, and that's one of his weakest fronts. If he wants to win, he's going to have to figure out how to respond to McCain's most-predictable questions:

* How do you propose to pay for all these government programs you're promoting?

* If our most important issue is energy independence, why would you not drill offshore?

* Why do you believe that protectionism, tariffs, and taxes on corporate profits would improve our national economy?

elliottp: It would seem to destroy her legacy as a trailblaser.

Not hardly. She earned it. Palin was picked as a last resort. The whole thing smacks of desperation, and I cant wait to see it crumble.

sarcastrophe: robsul82: Mayor Governor Palin "isn't like anyone in the Bush administration?"

Neither on positions nor gender is Palin different from anyone in the Bush administration.

Pending confirmation of Dick Cheney's position on creationism in science class, for one thing, she's more Goddamned conservative than Dick himself.

FTFY

Go ahead and stalk me, I'm not going to stop. It's a joke and so is she.

robsul82: Go ahead and stalk me, I'm not going to stop. It's a joke and so is she.

I'm just correcting your obvious error. It's OK. If you choose to keep making the same error, I'll choose to keep correcting it.

DarthBrooks: If he wants to win, he's going to have to figure out how to respond to McCain's most-predictable questions:

* How do you propose to pay for all these government programs you're promoting?

* If our most important issue is energy independence, why would you not drill offshore?

* Why do you believe that protectionism, tariffs, and taxes on corporate profits would improve our national economy?

I don't think he has to answer any of that. McCain has to convince voters that offshore drilling is the right thing to do. And he will have to describe how it will benefit Americans in the "here and now." The short answer is, it won't. You would be an idiot to think it would, since any oil drilled offshore would belong to the oil companies, and would get sold to the highest bidder. Welcome to the free market.

Energy independence will have to come from alternative energy, not continuing to lean on something like oil. That much should be obvious to anyone with half a brain.

sarcastrophe: robsul82: Go ahead and stalk me, I'm not going to stop. It's a joke and so is she.

I'm just correcting your obvious error. It's OK. If you choose to keep making the same error, I'll choose to keep correcting it.

Wow, is that pathetic. Try to defend The Ticket to Nowhere on your own time, not riding my coattails.

robsul82: sarcastrophe: robsul82: Go ahead and stalk me, I'm not going to stop. It's a joke and so is she.m just correcting your obvious error. It's OK. If you choose to keep making the same error, I'll choose to keep correcting it.

Wow, is that pathetic. Try to defend The Ticket to Nowhere on your own time, not riding my coattails.

I nominate this for STUPIDEST PISSING MATCH EVER.

robsul82: Wow, is that pathetic. Try to defend The Ticket to Nowhere on your own time, not riding my coattails.

OK.

queezyweezel: elliottp: It would seem to destroy her legacy as a trailblaser.

Not hardly. She earned it. Palin was picked as a last resort. The whole thing smacks of desperation, and I cant wait to see it crumble.

I don't disagree that she earned it, but I am imagining how future generations will look back.

If Palin is elected VP, then it looks like this was just the right time for a women to be elected to the executive branch. Hillary wouldn't be seen as a trailblazer in this case, just a footnote.

dj4aces: I don't think he has to answer any of that. McCain has to convince voters that offshore drilling is the right thing to do. And he will have to describe how it will benefit Americans in the "here and now." The short answer is, it won't. You would be an idiot to think it would, since any oil drilled offshore would belong to the oil companies, and would get sold to the highest bidder. Welcome to the free market.

Increased supply + same demand = lower prices. Welcome to the free market.

What else does increased supply affect? The *futures* market, almost immediately, even before the drills start turning. Again, lower prices, resulting in a better economy.

Energy independence will have to come from alternative energy, not continuing to lean on something like oil. That much should be obvious to anyone with half a brain.

The alternate energy sources aren't in place, so your suggestion is to continue relying on Mideast oil - - a place we're going to have to intervene and defend for years to keep that oil flowing to us. If we explore our domestic oil sources and increase the worldwide supply of oil, our strategic interest in the Mideast is reduced. This should be obvious to anyone with a map of the world.

BKITU: I nominate this for STUPIDEST PISSING MATCH EVER.

BULLshiat! I've started stupider pissing matches.

BKITU: robsul82: sarcastrophe: robsul82: Go ahead and stalk me, I'm not going to stop. It's a joke and so is she.m just correcting your obvious error. It's OK. If you choose to keep making the same error, I'll choose to keep correcting it.

Wow, is that pathetic. Try to defend The Ticket to Nowhere on your own time, not riding my coattails.

I nominate this for STUPIDEST PISSING MATCH EVER.

Not to make this any more childish than "I WILL STALK YOU TO THE ENDS OF THE EARTH FOR DARING TO MAKE A JOKE ABOUT THE INEXPERIENCE OF PALIN!" but I didn't start it.

FeedTheCollapse: Slaxl: I didn't rtfa, I just wanted to say that British newspapers writing about American Politics or American newspapers writing about British politics isn't a bad thing.

it's not, but they both tend to come off as completely ignorant of each others' process as they're completely different.

And our own press isn't vapidly ignorant as well?

robsul82: muck4doo: burndtdan: VelcroFez: I believe that Senator Obama has a few more magic tricks up his sleeve.

like not having a candidacy built on gimmicks?

Did you get your 3:00 AM text message?

Yes, because a text message is EXACTLY THE SAME as having a nobody with zero experience as first-in-line for POTUS should a 72-year-old heart fail. Fail, return to the back of the comparison line.

If you really thought Palin was such a huge mistake by McCain, I would think you Obama fanbois would be happy with his choice. The fact that you sound bitter and angry about it tells me he picked right.

muck4doo: If you really thought Palin was such a huge mistake by McCain, I would think you Obama fanbois would be happy with his choice. The fact that you sound bitter and angry about it tells me he picked right.

Exactly. Especially the harping on the "McCain seems desperate" shtick.

DarthBrooks: muck4doo: If you really thought Palin was such a huge mistake by McCain, I would think you Obama fanbois would be happy with his choice. The fact that you sound bitter and angry about it tells me he picked right.

Exactly. Especially the harping on the "McCain seems desperate" shtick.

What? That's pretty funny, considering I'm ecstatic he picked a nobody with zero experience. 9% of Democratic women saying the mayor from "Northern Exposure" made them "more likely" to vote for Pancakes/Cheesecake whereas 15% said "less likely," wow...that DOES scare me!

Boooga boooga!

Please. She's a joke and you two trying desperately to hype yourselves into thinking Democrats are worried is too. The thread for touching yourself is in TFD.

Furthermore, the more I think about it, Obama's slowplaying of "this is a ridiculous joke" is pretty good. Why say it himself when all over AMERICA they're already saying it? There will be plenty of time for smacking the pinata McCain picked later on.

robsul82: DarthBrooks: muck4doo: If you really thought Palin was such a huge mistake by McCain, I would think you Obama fanbois would be happy with his choice. The fact that you sound bitter and angry about it tells me he picked right.

Exactly. Especially the harping on the "McCain seems desperate" shtick.

What? That's pretty funny, considering I'm ecstatic he picked a nobody with zero experience. 9% of Democratic women saying the mayor from "Northern Exposure" made them "more likely" to vote for Pancakes/Cheesecake whereas 15% said "less likely," wow...that DOES scare me!

Boooga boooga!

Please. She's a joke and you two trying desperately to hype yourselves into thinking Democrats are worried is too. The thread for touching yourself is in TFD.

You sound bitter.

muck4doo: You sound bitter.

You sound concerned.

GAT_00: muck4doo: You sound bitter.

You sound concerned.

I'm not concerned about Palin at all.

/Read upthread to see who's showing "concern" about Palin.

muck4doo: I'm not concerned about Palin at all.

/Read upthread to see who's showing "concern" about Palin.

LOL. Keep talking.

muck4doo: I would think you Obama fanbois would be happy with his choice. The fact that you sound bitter and angry about it tells me he picked right.

Although I don't believe it's going to happen, there is a possibility that McCain will be elected.

If he is elected, there is a very, very strong possibility he will die in office.

If that happens, Palin will be President, if McCain is elected.

I don't believe that Palin-- who has not even been paying attention to the Iraq war-- would do anything like an adequate job as president, and might invite disaster.

Do you understand how, outside of "yay, this is good for my team!" McCain choosing Palin could make someone angry?

I think it lowers his already-very-low chances of becoming elected; but I'd have rather he picked someone more solid-- hell, even Huckabee-- who we had some measure of.

Is that really so hard to understand?

robsul82: Furthermore, the more I think about it, Obama's slowplaying of "this is a ridiculous joke" is pretty good. Why say it himself when all over AMERICA they're already saying it? There will be plenty of time for smacking the pinata McCain picked later on.

Biden is going to destroy in her the VP debate. I can't WAIT to see that.

muck4doo: GAT_00: muck4doo: You sound bitter.

You sound concerned.

I'm not concerned about Palin at all.

/Read upthread to see who's showing "concern" about Palin.

Yeah, "concern." Try "overwhelming joy" at McCain tossing his best argument against Obama down the toilet for a big pair of tits and a pathetic hope that women will vote for a woman diametrically opposed to them on the issues simply because she has a vagina.

sarcastrophe: robsul82: Furthermore, the more I think about it, Obama's slowplaying of "this is a ridiculous joke" is pretty good. Why say it himself when all over AMERICA they're already saying it? There will be plenty of time for smacking the pinata McCain picked later on.

Biden is going to destroy in her the VP debate. I can't WAIT to see that.

Exactly. All across America, I've realized, on TV screens and in editorial pages, people are saying what in the FARK. So Obama slowplaying his hand is actually pretty good.

/I guess all that business about Obama being a dynamite Texas Hold'em player was true

Obdicut: muck4doo: I would think you Obama fanbois would be happy with his choice. The fact that you sound bitter and angry about it tells me he picked right.

Although I don't believe it's going to happen, there is a possibility that McCain will be elected.

If he is elected, there is a very, very strong possibility he will die in office.

If that happens, Palin will be President, if McCain is elected.

I don't believe that Palin-- who has not even been paying attention to the Iraq war-- would do anything like an adequate job as president, and might invite disaster.

Do you understand how, outside of "yay, this is good for my team!" McCain choosing Palin could make someone angry?

I think it lowers his already-very-low chances of becoming elected; but I'd have rather he picked someone more solid-- hell, even Huckabee-- who we had some measure of.

Is that really so hard to understand?

Then don't vote for that ticket if you are "concerned". The whole fact that Obama's fan base is mad about it is ridiculous. You're not voting for McCain anyways, so why be upset?

She has rallied the Conservative base, because she is a true Conservative. McCain, not so much. She has given energy to McCain's campaign, and you guys sense that.

robsul82: muck4doo: GAT_00: muck4doo: You sound bitter.

You sound concerned.

I'm not concerned about Palin at all.

/Read upthread to see who's showing "concern" about Palin.

Yeah, "concern." Try "overwhelming joy" at McCain tossing his best argument against Obama down the toilet for a big pair of tits and a pathetic hope that women will vote for a woman diametrically opposed to them on the issues simply because she has a vagina.

You really don't get it, do you?

robsul82: Exactly. All across America, I've realized, on TV screens and in editorial pages, people are saying what in the FARK. So Obama slowplaying his hand is actually pretty good.

/I guess all that business about Obama being a dynamite Texas Hold'em player was true

I will never question Obama's political prowess. He's a first rate politician, no doubt. He's got something up his sleeve, I'm sure.

muck4doo: Obdicut: muck4doo: I would think you Obama fanbois would be happy with his choice. The fact that you sound bitter and angry about it tells me he picked right.

Although I don't believe it's going to happen, there is a possibility that McCain will be elected.

If he is elected, there is a very, very strong possibility he will die in office.

If that happens, Palin will be President, if McCain is elected.

I don't believe that Palin-- who has not even been paying attention to the Iraq war-- would do anything like an adequate job as president, and might invite disaster.

Do you understand how, outside of "yay, this is good for my team!" McCain choosing Palin could make someone angry?

I think it lowers his already-very-low chances of becoming elected; but I'd have rather he picked someone more solid-- hell, even Huckabee-- who we had some measure of.

Is that really so hard to understand?

Then don't vote for that ticket if you are "concerned". The whole fact that Obama's fan base is mad about it is ridiculous. You're not voting for McCain anyways, so why be upset?

She has rallied the Conservative base, because she is a true Conservative. McCain, not so much. She has given energy to McCain's campaign, and you guys sense that.

We are laughing. Sense that. Nobody is "mad" that McCain threw away his strongest argument against Obama, trust us. He gained the base at the cost of the independent middle, and guess what wins elections? Whoopsie daisy.