It looks like the more we find out about Palin and her style of governance, the more 'republican' she appears. This speaks volumes about McCains judgement.

Dinki: It looks like the more we find out about Palin and her style of governance, the more 'republican' she appears. This speaks volumes about McCains judgement.

Because if it's on the intertubes it MUST be true.

Dinki: It looks like the more we find out about Palin and her style of governance, the more 'republican' she appears

Kind of a "we are the President" kind of thing eh? If that's the worst she's done she's behind in the game regardless of party.

Cog: Because if it's on the intertubes it MUST be true.

seems they have emails cc'ed to him and corroborating witnesses.
there's also taped phone conversations of her office requesting the man be fired. but yeah go ahead and dismiss it. I'm sure that "good old boy" network she supposedly destroyed was only in the way of her setting up her own "good old girl" network in it's stead that did the same things the others were doing..just for a different group of people is all.

I'm with Samantha Bee. I'll definitely be voting for McCain in November now. You know, because when we women go into the voting booth, we don't think with the big head, we think with the little hood.

Sarah Palin wants to kill me. Help

It may be still pretty early in the game, but it looks like McCain's pick is even riskier than I thought. She's got a lot of little issues she brings to the ticket. It doesn't look like anything is really scandal worthy, but even with her short executive experience, shes managed to give the Dems 4-5 attack angles. Several of which are going to get rolled up into one that makes her look no different than Ted Stevens. The talking heads might be right on this one: McCain needed a Hail Mary, but it could wind uo as an interception.

Seems that the republican political strategy is once again based on the blanket assumption that most Americans are stupid, uninformed, and gulible. It's a winning strategy

Next Week:
Did Sarah Palin's beautician fail to claim a $5.00 scratch-off win on her income tax?

Hey Dems, best of luck in 2012!

RobsterCraw: it looks like McCain's pick is even riskier than I thought.

It's an example of McCain fighting the previous battle, not looking forward to the next one. A couple of weeks ago "Women are angry about Hillary's treatment... Hey, let's get a woman for VP!" might actually have been a good idea.

Not so much anymore. And couple that with a complete non-entity like Palin, and McCain has missed the boat.

I liked this bit:

Bitney was respected as a hard worker by people who knew him and worked with him. In six months, Bitney guided the governor's policies through the legislature, including her hallmark legislation; AGIA.

But John Bitney made the fatal employment mistake; he got on the bad side of Todd Palin.

In June of 2007, it became known that Bitney was dating the soon to be ex-wife of Todd Palin's good friend. Palin reportedly began demanding that Bitney be fired.

Alaska: Land of the shared women.

Or as the Alaska Women say it: The odds are good, but the goods are odd.

ndotseth: Hey Dems, best of luck in 2012!

I predict clear sailing for Obama's re-election.

she was forced to change her story about firing the public safety commissioner after a tape of one of her aides turned up. on the tape, the guy says "the palins" are upset about the situation. i wonder who had more influence in making decisions: mrs. palin or BP.

More proof that the republicans are throwing this whole thing.

1.run the economy into the ground
2. enter a war where no ending is a good one
3. Let the Dems have the white house and blame them.

So what? Who let Hillary take charge of health care reform while being the first lady?

Oh noes... he sat in meetings and got emailz! Burn it with fire!

Snowflake Tubbybottom: So what? Who let Hillary take charge of health care reform while being the first lady?

Oh noes... he sat in meetings and got emailz! Burn it with fire!

So, it's only cool if our side does it?

This is part of the problem with the party right now. This game of excuses. It's OK when our side does it, but reprehensible when someone else does it.

It shows a lack of integrity, or a sense of responsibility by the leadership--and a startling lack of responsibility by the rank and file.

If you want to point fingers at someone else, you have to hold your own party to even more stringent standards. Republicans HAVE to hold to a higher standard. Have to, otherwise, any claims to the moral or ethical highground are lost.

Making excuses for Republicans, simply because of their party affiliation is damning for us. It only feeds into the impression of corruption and a network of connections that excuse and justify anything, so long as there is an R appended to the end of a name in the paper.

We simply cannot afford to keep up the justification machine going. There is loyalty, and then there is blindness. Loyalty is a wonderful quality, but not when we have to try to justify actions that we would find reprehensible in others. It saps any hint of integrity that we can try to claim.

Republicans calling out Republicans on their shiat is the only way we are going to get our party back from the wingnuts and radicals who have sapped us of that integrity.

I don't care what the Democrats did or did not do. We have to clean up our plates first. Lead by example, not by trying to say, "Well, so R U!" louder.

I haven't seen anything from Palin or McCain to suggest that the Republican Party has learned anything about actual leadership. The Party is still trapped in the Bushian "Fark it, we'll do it live!" mentality.

Snowflake Tubbybottom: So what? Who let Hillary take charge of health care reform while being the first lady?

Oh noes... he sat in meetings and got emailz! Burn it with fire!



not anymore...

hubiestubert: Snowflake Tubbybottom: So what? Who let Hillary take charge of health care reform while being the first lady?

Oh noes... he sat in meetings and got emailz! Burn it with fire!

So, it's only cool if our side does it?

This is part of the problem with the party right now. This game of excuses. It's OK when our side does it, but reprehensible when someone else does it.

It shows a lack of integrity, or a sense of responsibility by the leadership--and a startling lack of responsibility by the rank and file.

If you want to point fingers at someone else, you have to hold your own party to even more stringent standards. Republicans HAVE to hold to a higher standard. Have to, otherwise, any claims to the moral or ethical highground are lost.

Making excuses for Republicans, simply because of their party affiliation is damning for us. It only feeds into the impression of corruption and a network of connections that excuse and justify anything, so long as there is an R appended to the end of a name in the paper.

We simply cannot afford to keep up the justification machine going. There is loyalty, and then there is blindness. Loyalty is a wonderful quality, but not when we have to try to justify actions that we would find reprehensible in others. It saps any hint of integrity that we can try to claim.

Republicans calling out Republicans on their shiat is the only way we are going to get our party back from the wingnuts and radicals who have sapped us of that integrity.

I don't care what the Democrats did or did not do. We have to clean up our plates first. Lead by example, not by trying to say, "Well, so R U!" louder.

Newsletter, etc...

Jedi_Templar: not anymore...

They oughta nail that sign to the forehead of whoever gets elected this time around.

Snowflake Tubbybottom: So what? Who let Hillary take charge of health care reform while being the first lady?

Which raised PLENTY of GOP hackles at the time. Oh, how short the memory is!

Co-Vice-Presidency?

Edsel: Snowflake Tubbybottom: So what? Who let Hillary take charge of health care reform while being the first lady?

Which raised PLENTY of GOP hackles at the time. Oh, how short the memory is!

But you're forgetting something- it's ok when Republicans do it.

/do as we say
//not as we do

Didn't like this crap with Hillary.
Would like it less in a VP where the first name on the ticket already is inching towards the pine box.

People already stated that Hilary did it while wife of Clinton, so no need to post further.

// Would expect it happens a lot in politics

Skleenar: Alaska: Land of the shared women.

Or as the Alaska Women say it: The odds are good, but the goods are odd.

Or as the Alaska men say it: You don't lose your woman, you lose your turn.

Have any of you seen Deadwood on HBO?

That gives you a pretty good idea of government in Alaska. Truly a frontier system...

Also like Deadwood, Alaska is full of ignorant hoopleheads.

It sounds like he's the real brains behind the operation and she's the figurehead.

This would be like the Cheney-Bush presidency, with Cheney pulling the strings on the token figurehead Bush.

What's more disturbing is that her husband works for British Petroleum. So our country would continue to be be run by oil corporations.



At this point it's obvious to say that the Palin's are completely in the pocket of Big Oil. Do you want a foreign oil corporation running the United States?

RobsterCraw: It may be still pretty early in the game, but it looks like McCain's pick is even riskier than I thought. She's got a lot of little issues she brings to the ticket. It doesn't look like anything is really scandal worthy, but even with her short executive experience, shes managed to give the Dems 4-5 attack angles.

Which will just serve to make the Dims look small-minded, vindictive, and desperate.

And c*cksuckers...

/Obligatory

Todd is by far the most damaging thing she brings to the table. This guy works for BP. He's not a damned fisherman

Churchy LaFemme: Have any of you seen Deadwood on HBO?

That gives you a pretty good idea of government in Alaska. Truly a frontier system...

Also like Deadwood, Alaska is full of ignorant hoopleheads.




Motherfarking corksurkers!

Snowflake Tubbybottom: So what? Who let Hillary take charge of health care reform while being the first lady?

Did Hillary use her position to get someone fired for dating her ex?

let's focus on what's important here.

More and more she looks like female version of Dubyah.
Ties to oil. Cronyism. Abuse of power. Lies and then walks it back when caught and reckless judgment.

Hey, I've got this juicy bit of information on someone in a governmnet position, I think I'll sit on it until it can do the maximize perceived damage to their career!

Folks are taking an entirely one sided stance on this 'issue'. This is why the people are partially accountable for the state of our current government, folks clamor for this type of information and never question why it was released at a specific time.

I hate to say it though, guys, and those of you who have been around on Fark for awhile have a pretty good idea of my politics but Palin has been the best governor we've had in YEARS. She has taken on the oil companies and isn't a corporate toady like former governor Murkowski was.

Unfortunately for Palin, all the retarded, anti-Obama talking points regarding a lack of experience now apply to her. Karma.

Why would a Governor's husband sit in on private meetings and receive classified emails?

Because he works for a foreign oil company. Durrr.

Awww. I think she's just what we need. A woman who listens to her man.

It's going to be interesting to see how much longer they can play him up as a blue collar half-Eskimo minority, though.

yawn

Churchy LaFemme: I hate to say it though, guys, and those of you who have been around on Fark for awhile have a pretty good idea of my politics but Palin has been the best governor we've had in YEARS. She has taken on the oil companies and isn't a corporate toady like former governor Murkowski was.

the oil companies that her husband doesn't work for I presume.

Churchy LaFemme: I hate to say it though, guys, and those of you who have been around on Fark for awhile have a pretty good idea of my politics but Palin has been the best governor we've had in YEARS. She has taken on the oil companies and isn't a corporate toady like former governor Murkowski was.

Unfortunately for Palin, all the retarded, anti-Obama talking points regarding a lack of experience now apply to her. Karma.

"Taken on the oil companies"? Now would be a good time to stop confusing "talking points" with "facts".

Hobodeluxe: Did Hillary use her position to get someone fired for dating her ex?

I dunno...was Bill banging anyone in the travel office?

thatvoiceguy: "Taken on the oil companies"? Now would be a good time to stop confusing "talking points" with "facts".

Hey, 'tard? You might want to check your own talking points. Palin forced through an open-season oil pipeline plan over the objections of the oil companies and her own Republican party. It forced the oil companies to capitulate on several points. If she hadn't done it the oil companies would still be jacking our state around regarding a gas pipeline. Yep, her husband works for the oil companies. Lots of people in Alaska do.

I know this is Fark but you don't have enough info to make an informed judgement, in this case.

bookman: RobsterCraw: It may be still pretty early in the game, but it looks like McCain's pick is even riskier than I thought. She's got a lot of little issues she brings to the ticket. It doesn't look like anything is really scandal worthy, but even with her short executive experience, shes managed to give the Dems 4-5 attack angles.

Which will just serve to make the Dims look small-minded, vindictive, and desperate.

B...b...but Rezko!

Sorry, the GOP has a monopoly on petty bullshiat this time around.

Your boy already lost. Deal with it.

I think one of the major differences between Palin's husband sitting in and Hillary taking on health care while First Lady is the level of education achieved by the players involved. Sarah Palin has a BA in Journalism. Bill Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar and a Juris Doctor (now disbarred--but he still went to law school). HRC also holds a JD. What is Mr. Palin's education level? I haven't seen any mention of it in anything I've read.

As the First Man of Alaska, he isn't exactly a "private citizen" but it sure looks bad to cc: him on official e-mails that you later categorize as classified.

Hobodeluxe: Did Hillary use her position to get someone fired for dating her ex?

let's focus on what's important here.

He didn't get fired, only suspended as I've read previously.

Come on, you all know that in marriages like the kind she extolls, husbands can haz all authoritay.

Plus, McCain only talked to her one time or something like that (in the six months he knew her before selecting her). I think he prolly just read her wiki article and decided that way.

I wonder what McCain's fark login is.

DeathByGeekSquad: Hey, I've got this juicy bit of information on someone in a governmnet position, I think I'll sit on it until it can do the maximize perceived damage to their career!

Folks are taking an entirely one sided stance on this 'issue'. This is why the people are partially accountable for the state of our current government, folks clamor for this type of information and never question why it was released at a specific time.

Did you happen to RTFA? Did you happen to see when it was posted? 2008-07-24. That's July, also know as over one month before Sarah Palin was named McCain's VP choice.

Snowflake Tubbybottom: He didn't get fired, only suspended as I've read previously.

and this matters how?

/he didn't kill him, just beat him within and inch of his life

Churchy LaFemme: She has taken on the oil companies and isn't a corporate toady like former governor Murkowski was.

If by "taken on the oil companies" you mean she raised taxes on them, then yes. She also had plenty of praise for Obama's energy plan.

LocalCynic: If by "taken on the oil companies" you mean she raised taxes on them, then yes. She also had plenty of praise for Obama's energy plan.

She should. Its nearly the same plan. Raise taxes on big oil, give the consumers the money raised.