That IS the headline, but the story says that poll was taken DURING the convention... so what is it? Either way, Subby (R) fails IMHO...

The poll was based on interviews with voters during the first three days of the convention.

Didn't the convention start Monday? Didn't Obama speak Thursday?

Failmitter doesn't understand a three-day rolling average. That's okay, I'm sure they're fine with voting for the mayor from "Northern Exposure" as first-in-line to the White House if a 72-year-old dies.

robsul82: ... That's okay, I'm sure they're fine with voting for the mayor from "Northern Exposure" as first-in-line to the White House if a 72-year-old dies.

Now *THAT* would be change.

kronicfeld: Didn't the convention start Monday? Didn't Obama speak Thursday?

Hush. You'll ruin the bias and make the Republicans angry with those kinds of facts.

Now the only thing left to do is put Barry in a tank.

In comparison, Michael Dukakis got seven points

I'm not doubting this, but it's not in the article.

TheConvincingSavant: Now the only thing left to do is put Barry in a tank.

Yeah, and if anyone knows about the military, it would be you, with all that experience in the Core!

/semper fib

TheConvincingSavant: Now the only thing left to do is put Barry in a tank.

has your wife hijacked your account again, TCS?

semper fib!

The good-ol'-boy South isn't going to budge one way or the other.

The "undecided" voters from the "swing states" are a statistical myth. I find it hard to believe that millions of people haven't already made up their minds, especially with so much damned media coverage.

Please tell me people aren't this gullible. Whatever reasons people have for voting for or against a candidate are seated much deeper than the cerebral cortex. People still base their vote on "gut feeling." That means "people who look like me." And republicans have become experts in stimulating the lizard brain to their advantage.

Translation: If a young, relatively handsome white guy had Obama's personality and integrity, he'd be spanking McCain's geriatric ass like Reagan spanked Mondale in '84.

FlashHarry: TheConvincingSavant: Now the only thing left to do is put Barry in a tank.

has your wife hijacked your account again, TCS?

semper fib!

Wait I thought TCS was the troll who blamed stupid shiat he says on cat-like typing.

NuttierThanEver: Wait I thought TCS was the troll who blamed stupid shiat he says on catwife-like typing.

FTFY.

Fark never forgets...

From the article:The poll was based on interviews with voters during the first three days of the convention.

submitter: Obama's acceptance speech got him a three point bump in the polls.

Is this some alternate reality where the acceptance speech was held during the first three days of the convention?

JerseyTim: I'm not doubting this, but it's not in the article.

I'll doubt it for the both of us then.

bulldg4life: Is this some alternate reality where the acceptance speech was held during the first three days of the convention?

When was the last time you expected honest depictions of the facts from the Right? I wish it wasn't that way, but that is how it has been for a very long time now. Reality and truth has little meaning to them now. Theirs is the world as they wish it, not as it is.

TheConvincingSavant: Now the only thing left to do is put Barry in a tank.

It's all ready taken by Phelps.

Canadian Canuck: TheConvincingSavant: Now the only thing left to do is put Barry in a tank.

It's all ready taken by Phelps.

Gallup specifically states on their site that most of the interviews were before the speech. The headline is false.

TheConvincingSavant: Now the only thing left to do is put Barry in a tank.

Why the fark are you still here?

There is ample proof that you are a charlatan and a troll, yet you still post.

No one cares what you have to say. Even I won't reply to your post, except to call you a charlatan.

McCain/Palin!

This is why I still lol at Drew's masturbatory self congratulation post about having an equal number of fascist and commie posts. Is it really balance when the fascist posts are complete lies that are exposed as such within 5 seconds?

/yes, I know it's not news, but don't pretend to be balanced if you aren't.

robsul82: Failmitter

Ha! Ha!

A portmanteau! How clever of you.

Meh, I've heard he's averaging an eight point bump today. Either way he's a better candidate than Dukakis, I just think he'll lose.

/Really hoping he loses.

"That's because I'm a Greek New-England Dem that really doesn't understand what the rest of the country wants or how it works."



/ and you know what, I LOST THE ELECTION BECAUSE OF IT

So is this three points on top of the eight point lead we were told he had before The Speech?


/Don't really want an answer. Polls are silly. Gobama.

ecmoRandomNumbers: The good-ol'-boy South isn't going to budge one way or the other.

The "undecided" voters from the "swing states" are a statistical myth. I find it hard to believe that millions of people haven't already made up their minds, especially with so much damned media coverage.

Please tell me people aren't this gullible. Whatever reasons people have for voting for or against a candidate are seated much deeper than the cerebral cortex. People still base their vote on "gut feeling." That means "people who look like me." And republicans have become experts in stimulating the lizard brain to their advantage.

Translation: If a young, relatively handsome white guy had Obama's personality and integrity, he'd be spanking McCain's geriatric ass like Reagan spanked Mondale in '84.

Gotcha, so the 90% of African-Americans who are voting for Obama because he is black are stimulating their lizard brains also, right?

By your definition then, the Democrats have also become experts in stimulating [scare-mongering] the lizard brain in blacks to their advantage, no?

ecmoRandomNumbers: The good-ol'-boy South isn't going to budge one way or the other.

The "undecided" voters from the "swing states" are a statistical myth. I find it hard to believe that millions of people haven't already made up their minds, especially with so much damned media coverage.

Please tell me people aren't this gullible. Whatever reasons people have for voting for or against a candidate are seated much deeper than the cerebral cortex. People still base their vote on "gut feeling." That means "people who look like me." And republicans have become experts in stimulating the lizard brain to their advantage.

Translation: If a young, relatively handsome white guy had Obama's personality and integrity, he'd be spanking McCain's geriatric ass like Reagan spanked Mondale in '84.

whoa there... Integrity? You obviously haven't read about who he cavorted with in Chi town. And as to hypotheticals, I have felt from day one that if any white person were to give Obama's speeches verbatim in the primaries, he/she would have been absolutely laughed out of the race by the media. But no one dared question a black persons ability to deliver on the promises he was making, cuz that might seem to be questioning the competency of a black person (totally verboten). IMHO he got the nom because he was black, not in spite of it.

Gangway Fathead: So is this three points on top of the eight point lead we were told he had before The Speech?


/Don't really want an answer. Polls are silly. Gobama.

The submitter is looking at a poll taken before the speech.

The convention bounce for Obama is still going up - lead over McCain has stretched to eight points (49-41). Bonus: Poll was conducted before Obama's acceptance speech (new window)

Obama's acceptance speech got him a three point bump in the polls.

so which is it?

This is still the beginning of 'The Bounce' and the Palin bounce for McCain (which should be modest at best) is yet to be recorded. A lot rides on how positive and message driven the GOP can manage to make their convention.

Obama's speech gives a 7 point bump to Michael Dukakis. He really is a saint.

kleppe: robsul82: Failmitter

Ha! Ha!

A portmanteau! How clever of you.

Thank you for teaching me a new word! Someday I fully intend to call somebody an assmitter.

It will be a good week, if not longer, before the full impact of the past week reaches the polls.

In all fairness i don't think Obama will get his full bump in the polls until he emerges from his tomb after 3 days. Amen

Nate Silver did a study on convention bounces, and the closeness of the two conventions indicates that the GOP should have a smaller bounce than would normally be expected, as it will be countered by the aftereffects of the Democratic bounce.

By the end of September, things should be around 45-45 again, barring something major.

shower_in_my_socks: It will be a good week, if not longer, before the full impact of the past week reaches the polls.

Traditional convention bump:


Same data, taking into account that the GOP convention starts during the peak period for the Democrat:



Obama should peak on Sunday, McCain should peak a week from Sunday, and everything should be back to normal in late September.

Larry Mahnken: Obama should peak on Sunday, McCain should peak a week from Sunday, and everything should be back to normal in late September.


McCain peaked in 1974.

Larry Mahnken: Gangway Fathead: So is this three points on top of the eight point lead we were told he had before The Speech?


/Don't really want an answer. Polls are silly. Gobama.

The submitter is looking at a poll taken before the speech.



right. The gallup daily tomorrow could show Obama over 50% for the first time which would be significant only as trivia, because it's obviously going to revert to the mean with the GOP convention in progress.
if you want to be picky he went from -2 going into the convention to +8 with the acceptance speech not yet polled. That would be a +10 swing, but using the -2 is a little bit of cherry-picking. it's safe to say he went from flat to +8 in gallup.

TheConvincingSavant: Now the only thing left to do is put Barry in a tank.

I think what I like most about you is that you continue to post/threadshiat even though you've been repeatedly embarrassed. I respect that kind of stick-to-itiveness.

In other words, if McCain isn't at least tied with Obama a week after the GOP convention, he's probably in pretty big trouble.

I thought Obama's speech was really great. Until he ascended into the sky and did a victory lap around the top of Mile High Stadium. That was a little over the top, IMHO.

CanisNoir: Meh, I've heard he's averaging an eight point bump today. Either way he's a better candidate than Dukakis, I just think he'll lose.

Because God knows we need more anti science pro war people in the White House.

Putting people with no agenda but to win elections in in 2000 and 2004 worked out so well for us. . .

The presidency isn't a prize, it's a responsibility. Treating it like a prize leads to Presidents like Nixon and Bush.

ecmoRandomNumbers: The good-ol'-boy South isn't going to budge one way or the other.

The "undecided" voters from the "swing states" are a statistical myth. I find it hard to believe that millions of people haven't already made up their minds, especially with so much damned media coverage.

Please tell me people aren't this gullible. Whatever reasons people have for voting for or against a candidate are seated much deeper than the cerebral cortex. People still base their vote on "gut feeling." That means "people who look like me." And republicans have become experts in stimulating the lizard brain to their advantage.

Translation: If a young, relatively handsome white guy had Obama's personality and integrity, he'd be spanking McCain's geriatric ass like Reagan spanked Mondale in '84.

WHAT?!!?!?

How DARE you not suggest that Obama's race is not an advantage... I mean, Hillary told me so, and the RNC told me so, so it MUST be true!

Minus a not in the previous comment... bah humbug to you all.

Judges make laws not voters: If Obama wins, count on getting ass raped in taxes if you succeeded in life by working hard.

Actually, the "hard" workers will, in a vast majority of cases, have relatively reduced taxes under Obama vs McCain.

I understand, it's easy to confuse "connections" with "working hard," and you think one person making $400k per year is more important than 10 people making $60k per year, but it seems that Obama doesn't agree with that.

Larry Mahnken: Obama should peak on Sunday, McCain should peak a week from Sunday, and everything should be back to normal in late September.

The funny part is that even Bush can give a better major speech than McCain. At least, he can look better while presenting it.

History suggests appearances often matter.

puffy999: I understand, it's easy to confuse "connections" with "working hard," and you think one person making $400k per year is more important than 10 people making $60k per year, but it seems that Obama doesn't agree with that.

I love it when people who wear suits and have a butt warmer in their car seat talk about hard work.

Is subby the same dork who made this "argument" in an earlier thread?