FTFA:

The reaction wasn't so rosy elsewhere. State Senate President Lyda Green said she thought it was a joke when someone called her at 6 a.m. to tell her the news.

"She's not prepared to be governor. How can she be prepared to be vice president or president? said Green, a Republican from Palin's hometown of Wasilla. "Look at what she's done to this state. What would she do to the nation?"

Ouch! That hurt just reading it!

Wait a minute, those are my qualifications for a date.

ManRay: Wait a minute, those are my qualifications for a date.

man, you're tough! my single qualification for a date is "breathes sufficiently to sustain life."

Edipis: man, you're tough!

I'm not that desperate. I do have some standards...

/yeah, it's Friday night and I'm at home on the computer...so what?

Hmm, I wonder what his opinion would be on if Barack Obama was qualified. I can make some guesses though...

Shrew2u: FTFA:

The reaction wasn't so rosy elsewhere. State Senate President Lyda Green said she thought it was a joke when someone called her at 6 a.m. to tell her the news.

"She's not prepared to be governor. How can she be prepared to be vice president or president? said Green, a Republican from Palin's hometown of Wasilla. "Look at what she's done to this state. What would she do to the nation?"

Ouch! That hurt just reading it!

PALIN WANTS TO DO TO THE U.S. WHAT SHE DID TO ALASKA
...and brrr! That's just too damned cold.

To be fair those are the only qualifications for the job listed in the Constitution.

"Who am I? Why am I here?"

I don't think McCain thought his cunning plan all the way through.

Snarfangel: PALIN WANTS TO DO TO THE U.S. WHAT SHE DID TO ALASKA
...and brrr! That's just too damned cold.

And finally, the Republican plan for fighting global warming is revealed ... make us more like Alaska.

Her qualifications aren't in question, hell, I can be President. But there is a limit to what seems rational... and this doesn't seem rational.

That and the Repubs are creaming their jeans over her, which makes me think that they are really worried. They don't seem confident or proud; more like a shallow happiness.

She's bulletproof, and the GOP knows it.

If you attack her lack of qualifications, you're attacking Obama's lack of qualifications.

If you attack her gender, you're sexist.

The democrats have to stick with attacking McCain's core failing: He represents four more years of the same crap that nearly destroyed our reputation around the world and bankrupted our economy.

Let Biden go after her in the debate. He will humiliate her on her lack of knowledge in foreign affairs and Congressional procedure. A small town mayor with a communications degree will be no match for a guy with Biden's experience.

Obama will handle McCain in the three presidential debates.

This will be an easy win for the Democrats. The poll numbers mean absolutely nothing without factoring in Barr and the disenfranchied republicans who will take votes away from the GOP.

If the Democrats ignore the polls and push for voter registration and grass-roots campaigning, they will be handed the White House on a silver platter.

TheCharmerUnderMe: If you attack her lack of qualifications, you're attacking Obama's lack of qualifications.

Not true. She has no experience inside the beltway. Obama does.

That being said, I agree with most of the rest of your post.

Registration is way WAY up for Democrats and way down for Republicans (I've heard some reports they're actually losing registered voters, not gaining). I volunteer for the local Obama campaign and registration is a top priority.

JohnnyC: Not true. She has no experience inside the beltway. Obama does.

Oh, absolutely. Just being a Harvard grad gives him more than enough qualification in my book.

My point is that the GOP knows that they can throw the "Ready to lead" crap right back at the democrats (again) when they go after her lack of experience.

After talking to several of my conservative friends today, I get the impression that they aren't too happy about McCain's VP choice. Many of them see it for what it really is; pandering to the Hillary crowd. What the conservatives really wanted was someone who could lead the country when McCain croaks. What they got was window-dressing.

if john mccain drops dead in March 2009 (not unrealistic), this woman is supposed to be the President of the United States? three years ago she was the part time mayor of a town with 5,000 people living in it. the cultural touchstone for podunkedness, Peoria Illinois, is 20 times larger than Wasilla, Alaska. if obama is inexperienced, palin is outright ignorant.

But what if Vladimir Putin challenges us to a snowmobile race?

People keep saying Obama has no experience and that he is not qualified to be president. You can get his qualification from reading his book. He may not have any executive experience but I know how he thinks and where he stands. That's more than enough to convince me he's the man for the job.

Now as for this lady, has she written a book? an article? Something that can tell me how she thinks. The subject of it doesn't really matter since all I'm interested in is her thought process.

TheCharmerUnderMe: What they got was window-dressing.

Or as I said to a friend of mine earlier today, "It seems like they're using her like a gimmick."

Or... maybe McCain is proving himself to be the secret Obama supporter I have suspected him to be. Yeah, I know, it's far fetched... or is it? ;)

klymen: You can get his qualification from reading his book.

I agree.

I was just looking at the CNN main page and there's a poll there asking who you think is the stronger VP pick, Biden or Palin. A shocking 32% are stupid enough to think that Palin is a stronger VP pick and Biden.

I weep for our nation.

Damned with faint praise.

CravenMorehead :
I was just looking at the CNN main page and there's a poll there asking who you think is the stronger VP pick, Biden or Palin. A shocking 32% are stupid enough to think that Palin is a stronger VP pick and Biden.
I weep for our nation.

Maybe they meant who can bench press who?

/ otherwise, will share crying towel with ya' pal

It's the old "she's one of us" phenomenon. Same deal with Bush. Regular folks who go to church and don't talk all fancy.

Ugh. Comparing Palin's experience to Obama's needs to stop.

Palin has no foreign policy experience: Obama is on the foreign relations committee.

Palin has never been involved in national politics: Obama has.

Palin has a degree in journalism: Obama has a degree in policy.

Please, please guys, try and pull that crap some more: It's just beautiful.

The truth of the matter is that Palin isn't really all that inexperienced. That is all relative.

What really happened here is that McCain just said to the world: People with very little experience are qualified to be president, which completely undermines his argument about Obama.

It is funny though how partisan the repubs are in their judgment.

Obama: Inexperienced and dangerous!

Palin: An outsider, a reformer!

Please. No really, please. Keep digging. Every word helps.

she slipped in a 911 referrence in her acceptance speech.

POW/911 2008

GAT_00: Hmm, I wonder what his opinion would be on if Barack Obama was qualified. I can make some guesses though...

Sarah Palin has as much experience as Barack Obama in the same way a career minor leaguer has as much experience in baseball as Albert Pujols. Same in years, not the same in useful experience.

but shes not black enough?

Edipis: ManRay: Wait a minute, those are my qualifications for a date.

man, you're tough! my single qualification for a date is "breathes sufficiently to sustain life."

How YOU doin?

I think that the playout of this selection will depend heavliy on Hillary Clinton.

Palin, in her speech yesterday, all but suggested that she was the heir to the Clinton legacy. I have trouble seeing the very proud and very accomplished Hillary Clinton letting the Mayor of Wasilla claim her crown.

I expect a Clinton smackdown soon. I just can't see how Clinton can sit by and let an anti-choice, fundy Republican grab on to her coattails.

CravenMorehead: I was just looking at the CNN main page and there's a poll there asking who you think is the stronger VP pick, Biden or Palin. A shocking 32% are stupid enough to think that Palin is a stronger VP pick and Biden.

Of course they do -- they think Biden's a terrible VP choice, and Obama's a terrible choice for President. They like George Bush.

And they were all 100% going to vote for McCain, and would no matter who he picked. And many of the people who voted Biden as the better VP choice are going to vote McCain, too.

Barack Obama majored in International Relations at Columbia University.

Sarah Palin majored in Journalism at the University of Idaho.

35 and natural born, seems qualified to me.

Palin quenched the Obama flame like a NYC firefighter.

She appeals to conservatives and was not picked to influence Democrats who were not going to vote for McCain anyway.

Voting gender or race is inane.

(Sigh) The way you people visualize conservatives is laughable. Lets get this out right in the front; the experience gap between Obama and Palin is like much of his campaign, perception only. Alaska's constitution is unique among the 50 states regarding energy production and as Governor, she's had to deal with both Big Oil and her own party to balance out the needs of Alaskans. So unless you know exactly what's involved in the Gonvernorship of Alaska, you can't really say if Obama is more prepared or not. Every interview I've seen with her has demonstrated a quick learner that can hold on to the facts and get her swipes in at the opposition.

Why McCain picked her is easy, there were many reasons and anyone who thinks it was just to pander to the Hilldog voters is myopic in thier vision of Conservatism.

McCain was struggling with his base; he won the nomination but the conservative voters know him for the left-leaner that he is, hence the "Maverick" Title. He's been hammered recently for shifting his positions to please the right, and even in so doing he was just getting luke warm approval. This pick energized his base like none of the other picks would have, seals up and makes happy that conservative-right base he was having problems with, which allows him a little more lee-way to be The Maverick of 2004 that people say they miss; without alienating the base.

She hails from Alaska and supports drilling in ANWAR, something he was getting hammered with from his base on, because he's been hesitant. She *knows* ANWAR and will cream both Biden and Obama when it comes to an energy debate. (Energy being a big American Priority at the moment)

She's already being lauded with the *Reagan* ability to communicate conservative ideas to people, or what some people dispariging call "The Everyman Syndrome".

She lives and exudes Family Values, and not the hokey far right fundie notion, but the regular American version of remaining true to your spouse, raising your children (Hey, she started with the PTA and if that doesnt scream 'active in my childs future' I don't know what does)

Her son volunteered for service and is shipping out to Iraq, keeps the Chickenhawk title from sticking to her, and appeals to the Nationalistic pride of McCains Base.

Obama's camp was caught flat-footed on thier opposition research as exhibbitted by the bevy of half-truths and out of context crap that hit the net overnight. (Creationism in schools etc...)

It sucked all the air out of Obama's acceptance speech and hijacked the News Cycle for the weekend.

She's a woman, and a conservative woman; if he were just pandering, he'd have chosen a different chick.

Lifelong member of NRA, hunts, is very outdoorsy, and loves nature. Giving McCain even more traction on the Environment. (As she said, nobody cares more about preserving the pristine nature of ANWAR than the Alaskans who have to live and breathe it, and *they* want to drill and make sure it's done in an ethical and environmentally friendly manner" Thats a pretty good arguement for it right there.

So far she brings just a couple of negatives, but she did far more good for McCain initially than bad. Question is, can she stand up to Biden and it would seem that many of her former opponents think she can.

Regarding TFA, All the negative comments came from people she's butted heads with, especially the ones in her own party. This is another big pluss for McCain; she fought her own party to clean up the government. She's a Maverick Reformer in and of herself.

Easy on the eys... Can never rule out that in the TV Age, the beauty wins more often than not, as Nixon learned to his detriment.

As I said in this thread yesterday, she was picked for one reason:

Fan Service.


...well, that and blatant pandering to the Cheesecake Brigade Battalion

While I agree that some of the points brought against her are silly Canis, I am not sure how you support some of your points.

Considering the USA sells 50% of its domestically drilled oil to foreign nations, how does "drill ANWAR" constitute an energy policy.

Palin has fought tooth and nail to deny any marraige or union benefits to gay couples. This includes only relenting in Alaska when the state supreme court overruled her AND supporting a constitutional amendment denying benefits to gays. So, I think she does qualify as someone supporting "hokie far right family values".

Also, I am not sure how she is considered as experienced as Obama. She has NO national experience and her entire state has the population of a large city.

Yes, what if this clueless alaskan woman randomly becomes the president?

The theatrics of US politics are swinging away from daytime drama towards prime time sitcoms.

CanisNoir: (Sigh)[tolstoy]

dude, just admit it. If he would have picked a shard of flint to be he's VP you'd support it.

I mean "Lifelong member of NRA, hunts, is very outdoorsy, and loves nature."??? What about playing backgammon and long walks on the beach?

CravenMorehead: I don't think McCain thought his cunning plan all the way through.

QFT

Longrod McHugendong: Considering the USA sells 50% of its domestically drilled oil to foreign nations, how does "drill ANWAR" constitute an energy policy.

Well Drill ANWAR isn't the entirety of her Energy Plan and in fact she gently backhanded Bush for *not* having an energy policy while full on Biatch-slapping Biden for voting against the Alaskan Pipeline 30 years ago and calling Obam and Biden both Nieve for not including a transition phase of Fossile Fuel use in thier own.
Interview with CNBC Days before learning of McCains Choice (new window)

Palin has fought tooth and nail to deny any marraige or union benefits to gay couples. This includes only relenting in Alaska when the state supreme court overruled her AND supporting a constitutional amendment denying benefits to gays. So, I think she does qualify as someone supporting "hokie far right family values".

I'll have to do a little more digging on the denial of benefits to gays, but as far as marrige goes, she's on the side of the majority of Americans there, and helps to shore up his base; that's not a Negative for a Republican VP.

Also, I am not sure how she is considered as experienced as Obama. She has NO national experience and her entire state has the population of a large city.

Possibly, but keep attacking her on that point and pointing out how small her state is and how useless and brainless Mayoral experience in a small town is, and watch Fly-over country flock to her; Say what you will about Small-town folk, they don't like being insulted.

As far as the policies go, she appears to be a darn quick study, and really, unless McCain drops dead the moment he's sworn in, she's got some time for OTJT that Obama doesn't. That's the bennefit of being at the bottom of the ticket and being inexperienced as opposed to the top.

Another little Gem I liked...
Palin on the Sexism directed at Hillary (new window)

Not sure when this one was taped, but you can't really argue with her points... This is the one place she *might* get tripped up on though. If she ever cries foul, she'll be crucified. I just don't think that'll happen. Women who shoot big game aren't easily intimidated.

Teh libtard fear... This thread reeks of it. Have fun trying to run "plugs" vs. "Jugs". Your savior, he is finished. At least you had fun waiting till 3 in the morning waiting for Obama's boring ass announcement.

/Biden=Change?
//ROFLMFAO!!!

log_jammin: CanisNoir: (Sigh)[tolstoy]

dude, just admit it. If he would have picked a shard of flint to be he's VP you'd support it.

I mean "Lifelong member of NRA, hunts, is very outdoorsy, and loves nature."??? What about playing backgammon and long walks on the beach?

No, actually I was dreading all of the big names being floated. Romney would have definatly kept me home. Pawlenty I didn't know anything about but in all honesty I had a sinking feeling when I heard that was his choice. Huckabee, rubbed me wrong in the Primaries... Lieberman would have sunk him.

No, I heard about Palin about two to three months ago (Actually I think it was in April when Gingrich called her the Dark Horse for the choice) and I liked what I read. I started to mourn a bit when she vanished off the radar screen, but gods honest truth, I was pretty damn jazzed about the choice yesterday, for the first time in this election cycle since Fred dropped out.

CanisNoir: log_jammin: CanisNoir: (Sigh)[tolstoy]

dude, just admit it. If he would have picked a shard of flint to be he's VP you'd support it.

I mean "Lifelong member of NRA, hunts, is very outdoorsy, and loves nature."??? What about playing backgammon and long walks on the beach?

No, actually I was dreading all of the big names being floated. Romney would have definatly kept me home. Pawlenty I didn't know anything about but in all honesty I had a sinking feeling when I heard that was his choice. Huckabee, rubbed me wrong in the Primaries... Lieberman would have sunk him.

No, I heard about Palin about two to three months ago (Actually I think it was in April when Gingrich called her the Dark Horse for the choice) and I liked what I read. I started to mourn a bit when she vanished off the radar screen, but gods honest truth, I was pretty damn jazzed about the choice yesterday, for the first time in this election cycle since Fred dropped out.

Palin has excited the base. It was the best thing McCain has done this election cycle. The left knows it, and that's why they are on the attack against her. Their colors will shine through in the process.

log_jammin: I mean "Lifelong member of NRA, hunts, is very outdoorsy, and loves nature."??? What about playing backgammon and long walks on the beach?

Oops, forgot to address this. Well that's more of a personal thing for me anyway. I'm a country boy at heart, born in a barn to be exact, Iowa reared. I've been to Alaska and I love the country up there, often thought about moving there, just never made the plunge.

The notion of a President with roots to the Earth honestly does appeal to me in a way one of those Ivy League City Boys can't. There's something, I don't know, almost spiritual about it, and people of like minds can understand what I'm saying. I think those qualities will resonate with Fly-over Country and Small Town America just as they do with me. Call it the Fred Thompson Effect if you will because I think it's in the same league as Freds attraction.

CanisNoir: (Sigh)

Regarding TFA, All the negative comments came from people she's butted heads with, especially the ones in her own party. This is another big pluss for McCain; she fought her own party to clean up the government. She's a Maverick Reformer in and of herself.



Wasn't going to vote this year but I am now. Only record of "CHANGE" amoung the four canidates.

Larry Mahnken: Barack Obama majored in International Relations at Columbia University.

Then got a law degree at Harvard.

Sarah Palin majored in Journalism at the University of Idaho.

Focusing on sports writing. Then she was a small-market TV sportscaster.

Lawnchair: Larry Mahnken: Barack Obama majored in International Relations at Columbia University.

Then got a law degree at Harvard.

Sarah Palin majored in Journalism at the University of Idaho.

Focusing on sports writing. Then she was a small-market TV sportscaster.

We will take her over your unexperienced Obama anyday.Be happy with "plugs" as his running mate.

Oh, yes. And for anyone who says "this is just the vice president".

A.) John McCain is 72 and has had ten cancer surgeries, including February of this year.

B.) This is John McCain's first cabinet-level appointment. Sorry, but I've had enough Michael (heckuva job) Browns, Paul Bremers, Harriet Meiers, Monica Goodlings, and the like. This doesn't reflect particularly well on him.

Lawnchair: Larry Mahnken: Barack Obama majored in International Relations at Columbia University.

Then got a law degree at Harvard.

Then hasn't done squat with it, spent his entire term in office running for another office.



Sarah Palin majored in Journalism at the University of Idaho.

Focusing on sports writing. Then she was a small-market TV sportscaster.

And ripped thru the establishment with an 80% approval rating as an Administrator not a Legislator. I'm not really into the femminist thing but she did this and gave birth at the same time.

muck4doo: Palin has excited the base. It was the best thing McCain has done this election cycle. The left knows it, and that's why they are on the attack against her. Their colors will shine through in the process.

I live surrounded by "the base" and the only thing she's excited is the penises of easily led dimwits. Just like she did when she ran for governor. People like her because she's easy on the eyes.

muck4doo: We will take her over your unexperienced Obama anyday.Be happy with "plugs" as his running mate.

I was going to go with, Ivy Legue college or not, I'll take a person who got into Government to better her childrens school over someone who got into it to *become president* anyday, and especially today when our Education System is producing more uneducated people than educated ones. Something *good* might actually happen to our School Systems, if they can get around the Democratic Congress and Senate.

But your arguement was more succinct.

/For the record, I actually like Biden, will find the debates interesting.