Serious

Should Obama be true to his word about this kind of petty stuff (not that the content of what they said is trivial, just that you should give a newly-minted VP candidate her due reward for her accomplishment and at least a few hours before hitting her on her record), I can't imagine how hard it is to rein in a campaign staff that has spent decades thinking this way.

\Maybe he's playing both sides
\\Hopefully not

The way Obama really should be approaching this is not to mock her lack of experience after McCain railed on Obama's experience, but rather to say that her lack of experience doesn't matter if her judgment and knowledge of national and world issues is strong.

And then destroy her for having no knowledge of national or world issues.

Give me a break. Does he honestly think anyone falls for this good cop/bad cop shiat?

the damage is already done as their Weeners was to insult small town America...

woops...

hope..change...Palin

He should say that she sounds like a great person but it shows the GOP is all about winning and has no ideas. After attacking Obama for months about a lack of experience, nominating an woman with even less applicable experience shows they really never meant any of it. And have some of his more negative surrogates say this is an insulting play for Hillary voters.

That's the way to play it.

McCain just proved that he doesn't mean anything he says and that winning is more important to him than anything else. That should be the narrative Obama pushes. It's also the truth.

I think Palin is a great girl, but I don't want someone that young and probably idealistic in a position where she could really push for anti-abortion. Most Republicans just want to play their base, but she might actually work for it and that isn't good for anyone.

Hang On Voltaire: Give me a break. Does he honestly think anyone falls for this good cop/bad cop shiat?

Worked for McCain. He just forgot he was supposed to stay "good cop." Now the Republican campaign is like "crazy racist cop" and "confused grumpy cop."

mattbutler99: the damage is already done as their Weeners was to insult small town America...

He may as well stick to what he's good at...

"So it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

KaponoFor3: Serious

This.

And I never thought I'd say that to one of your posts, friend. :)

RemyDuron: I think Palin is a great girl

She's 44 years old, BOY.

Hang On Voltaire: Give me a break. Does he honestly think anyone falls for this good cop/bad cop shiat?

So what do you think his response should have been?

Hang On Voltaire: Give me a break. Does he honestly think anyone falls for this good cop/bad cop shiat?

To be fair, how is this any different than when McCain says something contradictory, and his camp responses that his remarks are not the McCain platform?

I mean, clearly it is a little good cop/bad cop, but at least in this direction the implication is that the nominee is in the right, not the staff.

Hang On Voltaire: Give me a break. Does he honestly think anyone falls for this good cop/bad cop shiat?

Are you 16? You sure as fark act like it constantly.

Larry Mahnken: The way Obama really should be approaching this is not to mock her lack of experience after McCain railed on Obama's experience, but rather to say that her lack of experience doesn't matter if her judgment and knowledge of national and world issues is strong.

And then destroy her for having no knowledge of national or world issues.

Obama won't attack her character, that'll bring sympathy to her. However, the females Democrats definitely will.

Whoa:

There are rumours circulating on the interwebs that Palin's 16-year-old daughter is pregnant. Moreover, they are saying that Palin's down's baby may, in fact, not be hers but her daughter's.

Yoikes.

culebra:
Are you 16? You sure as fark act like it constantly.

How so?

mattbutler99: the damage is already done as their Weeners was to insult small town America...

woops...

hope..change...Palin

Such as?

Hang On Voltaire: Give me a break. Does he honestly think anyone falls for this good cop/bad cop shiat?

It's okay when John McCain does it!

Larry Mahnken: RemyDuron: I think Palin is a great girl

She's 44 years old, BOY.

I'm not offended by you calling me boy. . . "Great woman" looks terrible written.

If Biden doesn't have some kind of olden days chivalry problems, he's going to murder her in the debates. It's not even going to be funny.

We could end up with a Harriet Meyers president, do you want that?

Larry Mahnken: RemyDuron: I think Palin is a great girl

She's 44 years old, BOY.

Easy there kiddo.

Fart_Machine:

So what do you think his response should have been?

Just release one message.

RemyDuron: He should say that she sounds like a great person but it shows the GOP is all about winning and has no ideas. After attacking Obama for months about a lack of experience, nominating an woman with even less applicable experience shows they really never meant any of it.

Sarah Palin has foreign policy experience because her state is across the Bering Sea from Russia.

I think her main flaw is that she upstages McCain. When she speaks, I don't find myself praying for deaf.

Hang On Voltaire: culebra:
Are you 16? You sure as fark act like it constantly.

How so?

Maybe it's your Teen Beat magazine collection....

mattbutler99: the damage is already done as their Weeners was to insult small town America...

Your weener insults all of America.

/oh snap

LocalCynic:

It's okay when John McCain does it!

I don't know what you are referring to.

Hang On Voltaire: Give me a break. Does he honestly think anyone falls for this good cop/bad cop shiat?

I dunno. What does "McCain doesn't speak for the McCain campaign" mean?

Don't attack Palin for her lack of experience; attack MCCAIN for making such a big deal out of Obama's. Even the "get a brain morans" guy can see the hypocrisy in McCain's decision today.

UberNeuman:

Maybe it's your Teen Beat magazine collection....

That Justin Timberlake is dreamy

Hang On Voltaire: I don't know what you are referring to.

Sure you do.

Larry Mahnken: The way Obama really should be approaching this is not to mock her lack of experience after McCain railed on Obama's experience, but rather to say that her lack of experience doesn't matter if her judgment and knowledge of national and world issues is strong.

The problem with that is they'd just send her on a vacation around the world for a week or so to meet with some world leaders and pose for photo ops. Then she'd match Obama's foreign policy experience.

Obama to staff: "What did you think of the stage last night? It's part of the house from 'My Big Fat Greek Wedding'."

Satanic_Hamster: RemyDuron: He should say that she sounds like a great person but it shows the GOP is all about winning and has no ideas. After attacking Obama for months about a lack of experience, nominating an woman with even less applicable experience shows they really never meant any of it.

Sarah Palin has foreign policy experience because her state is across the Bering Sea from Russia.

That's the next thread down.

And then destroy her for having no knowledge of national or world issues.

Let's see... the Republican VP pick has no knowedge of "national or world issues"... and the Democrats' pick for *President* has no understanding of "national or world issues", much less economics, history, basic civics, etc.

I don't think the Democrats should try attacking her on anything if they don't want it to turn back on them.

Biden chimed in: "I'm looking forward to meeting her."

well Joe the bar is pretty low for her. All she has to do is show up and look pretty.

I_Love_Cheesecake: Whoa:

There are rumours circulating on the interwebs that Palin's 16-year-old daughter is pregnant. Moreover, they are saying that Palin's down's baby may, in fact, not be hers but her daughter's.

Yoikes.


I heard she's a closet Scientologist who heats her home by burning her illegitimate love children conceived in wild orgies.

Capitalist1: And then destroy her for having no knowledge of national or world issues.

Let's see... the Republican VP pick has no knowedge of "national or world issues"... and the Democrats' pick for *President* has no understanding of "national or world issues", much less economics, history, basic civics, etc.

I don't think the Democrats should try attacking her on anything if they don't want it to turn back on them.

Exactly! Which is why McCain picked Palin for her experience!

RemyDuron: Larry Mahnken: RemyDuron: I think Palin is a great girl

She's 44 years old, BOY.

I'm not offended by you calling me boy. . . "Great woman" looks terrible written.

If Biden doesn't have some kind of olden days chivalry problems, he's going to murder her in the debates. It's not even going to be funny.

We could end up with a Harriet Meyers president, do you want that?

I thought the choice was good from a debate perspective. Biden would have taken apart anyone McCain picked but if he does it to her it will look like the big scary man is picking on the young women.

Tsunami Ditka:

I dunno. What does "McCain doesn't speak for the McCain campaign" mean?

Had to Google it. But yes, that is the same thing.

LocalCynic:

Sure you do.

No I didn't until someone provided it. I agree. It is the same thing.

Obama should say nothing. He should go home and photoshop Palin's head on Luba's (nsfw new window)) body and post it all over the intertubes. Once the stories of Palin's nude photo shoot is out then compliment McCain on his taste in women.

Hang On Voltaire: Tsunami Ditka:

I dunno. What does "McCain doesn't speak for the McCain campaign" mean?

Had to Google it. But yes, that is the same thing.

Funny how you seem to miss out on the bigger gaffes of the McCain camp but show up in the threads about Obama quite a bit.

Hang On Voltaire: Fart_Machine:

So what do you think his response should have been?

Just release one message.

What campaign ever does that? Representatives always release trial balloons. It's part of politics. You're either being naive or disingenuous.

Capitalist1: I don't think the Democrats should try attacking her on anything if they don't want it to turn back on them.

heh the geezer was creaming in his diaper that Obama is inexperienced and didn't belong in the national spotlight and now he brings along this lady who is a Governor for 1 year.

hypocrite much?

shower_in_my_socks: Don't attack Palin for her lack of experience; attack MCCAIN for making such a big deal out of Obama's. Even the "get a brain morans" guy can see the hypocrisy in McCain's decision today.

That's why the Obamamaniacs are so happy. It takes the experience card right out of the game. And in fact, brings that attack to him! Obama doesn't have to do it himself, look at all the forums, blogs, threads, sites, etc, they're all tearing her down already.

Hobodeluxe: well Joe the bar is pretty low for her. All she has to do is show up and look pretty.

I disagree. Sarah Palin, as a governor with so much experience, is probably exceedingly knowledgeable about the world. I think the bar needs to be set extremely high. If she doesn't crush him, it's a loss for her.

Fart_Machine:

What campaign ever does that? Representatives always release trial balloons. It's part of politics. You're either being naive or disingenuous.

Fair point. Their Weeners was a trial balloon which blew up in their face. I would agree there. I guess it is the insulting nature of Obama coming back and acting holier than thou.

I_Love_Cheesecake: Whoa:

There are rumours circulating on the interwebs that Palin's 16-year-old daughter is pregnant. Moreover, they are saying that Palin's down's baby may, in fact, not be hers but her daughter's.

Yoikes.

I read it on Kos so it must be true.

The comment the compaign made was supposed to be a simple canned response until a more detailed response could be drafted.

This IS a case of the staffer opening their mouth and saying something stpuid that gave a counter message to the speech the previous night. And, honestly, it was exactly what the republicans were counting on.

Obama facepalms.

Relatively Obscure: I_Love_Cheesecake: Whoa:

There are rumours circulating on the interwebs that Palin's 16-year-old daughter is pregnant. Moreover, they are saying that Palin's down's baby may, in fact, not be hers but her daughter's.

Yoikes.


I heard she's a closet Scientologist who heats her home by burning her illegitimate love children conceived in wild orgies.

I'm just the messenger, mate:

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