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(Telegraph) Cool French surgical team unveils new technique for fighting brain cancer, destroys tumor on conscious patient with high-precision laser through the skull. Suck it, Skywalker   (telegraph.co.uk) divider line 77
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Cagey B [TotalFark] 2008-08-29 05:05:24 PM  
Good to see the French surgical team has rebounded from their devastating first-round loss to the Senegal Sawbones Squad.

 
notmtwain [TotalFark] 2008-08-29 06:15:38 PM  
Totally predictable that they would have to give this up now.

 
impaler [TotalFark] 2008-08-29 06:27:37 PM  
I call BS.

There is no way new medical techniques would be developed under socialist medicine...

 
FarkinNortherner [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-08-29 06:28:22 PM  
That's what happens when socialized medicine quashes innovation.

 
peon36 2008-08-29 06:28:29 PM  
The surgery was made possible thanks to a revolutionary American-designed laser that is permanently chilled to avoid causing blood clots on contact with the brain or epileptic fits.

Damn Frenchies can't do anything without our help.

/kidding
/it's actually a really cool concept

 
Phil Herup 2008-08-29 06:28:48 PM  
the French are geniuses.


Period.

 
Ravie 2008-08-29 06:29:01 PM  
I'm not sure I'd want to be conscious while a lazer bores a hole into my skull and slices out part of my brain tissue.

 
FarkinNortherner [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-08-29 06:29:33 PM  
Arse.

 
bigpete53 [TotalFark] 2008-08-29 06:29:58 PM  
impaler: There is no way new medical techniques would be developed under socialist medicine...

peon36: The surgery was made possible thanks to a revolutionary American-designed laser that is permanently chilled to avoid causing blood clots on contact with the brain or epileptic fits.

Not without capitalist help.

 
looky loo 2008-08-29 06:31:30 PM  
I have a question.

Why is it that once people find a legitimate cure/procedure/treatment for cancer their funding seems to dry up once they announce it?

The same think happened to the guys using white blood cells from younger donors as a treatment.

/anyone?

 
Pincy 2008-08-29 06:32:37 PM  
That's great and all, but can it cut a piece of brie?

 
Mastorious 2008-08-29 06:33:41 PM  
Afssaps

 
Ikahoshi 2008-08-29 06:34:26 PM  
Ravie: I'm not sure I'd want to be conscious while a lazer bores a hole into my skull and slices out part of my brain tissue.

Yeah, the smell of the burning flesh would make you terribly hungry.

 
Phil Herup 2008-08-29 06:35:31 PM  
Ravie: I'm not sure I'd want to be conscious while a lazer bores a hole into my skull and slices out part of my brain tissue.

Well if you were unconscious they could do worse damage and not know it until you woke up...or did not.

Don't worry, they make you comfy.

A comfy pt. is a well behaved pt.

 
MasterThief [TotalFark] 2008-08-29 06:38:14 PM  
Luke Skywalker: Okay. I just need to make a quick incision here and we'll be all done, Mrs. Wilson.
Obi-Wan Kenobi: Luke, use the force.
Luke: Really? Because I was just gonna--
Obi-Wan Kenobi: Use... Use the force.
Luke: Okay.
(Luke lets go of the light saber and it impales the womans head)
Luke: Are ya happy?
Obi-Wan Kenobi: I've never been happy.

 
JesterGirl [TotalFark] 2008-08-29 06:38:58 PM  
You see, I've turned the moon into what I like to call a "Death Star".

 
outatime 2008-08-29 06:39:07 PM  
Phil Herup: A comfy pt. is a well behaved pt.

Then tell that cute little thing you've got working the front desk to shimmy on back here and give me a BJ while you're shooting that laser into my brain, eh, Doc?

 
EmployeeOfTheMinute 2008-08-29 06:42:09 PM  
The story doesn't seem complete without someone surrendering...

 
Cyborg77 2008-08-29 06:42:10 PM  
Well we all know how the Jedi Laser Eye Surgery went.

 
French Rage 2008-08-29 06:45:00 PM  
MasterThief: Luke Skywalker: Okay. I just need to make a quick incision here and we'll be all done, Mrs. Wilson.
Obi-Wan Kenobi: Luke, use the force.
Luke: Really? Because I was just gonna--
Obi-Wan Kenobi: Use... Use the force.
Luke: Okay.
(Luke lets go of the light saber and it impales the womans head)
Luke: Are ya happy?
Obi-Wan Kenobi: I've never been happy.


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Cagey B [TotalFark] 2008-08-29 06:45:40 PM  
EmployeeOfTheMinute: The story doesn't seem complete without someone surrendering...

Cancer surrendered, chum. CANCER SURRENDERED

 
CornFedIowan 2008-08-29 06:46:48 PM  
As you can see, my young apprentice cancer cell, your friends have failed. Now witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational battle station laser!

 
rodeofrog 2008-08-29 06:48:06 PM  
impaler: I call BS.

There is no way new medical techniques would be developed under socialist medicine...


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FarkinNortherner: That's what happens when socialized medicine quashes innovation.


From the Article, after the part about the American laser: "However, it said it lacked the necessary funds to take its research further, and needed a further two million euros to progress."

Suck it, commies.

 
EmployeeOfTheMinute 2008-08-29 06:49:59 PM  
Cagey B: EmployeeOfTheMinute: The story doesn't seem complete without someone surrendering...

Cancer surrendered, chum. CANCER SURRENDERED


Touché

 
CitizenTed [TotalFark] 2008-08-29 06:51:03 PM  
Ravie: I'm not sure I'd want to be conscious while a lazer bores a hole into my skull and slices out part of my brain tissue.

I'd insist on being conscious while they did it. I want the opportunity to tell them "Hey guys: I'm starting to see floating images of Charles Kuralt. And the air is starting to smell like wet dog fur. Where are my hands? Is that you, Mabel? Is it really you? Binder clips! Pancakes!"

This way they know maybe they should back off or re-patch something back into my skull.

 
rodeofrog 2008-08-29 06:51:48 PM  
The only reason France could do this is because so many of her citizens have tumors from exposure to nuclear power, and are willing to subject themselves to medical experiments to keep their families fed.

 
Cucullen 2008-08-29 06:52:28 PM  
looky loo: I have a question.

Why is it that once people find a legitimate cure/procedure/treatment for cancer their funding seems to dry up once they announce it?

The same think happened to the guys using white blood cells from younger donors as a treatment.

/anyone?


1. A lot of times there's a catch, that's not mentioned in the preliminary publication. This provides a basis canceling funding. Sometimes its a real end game, sometimes its a perceived one.

2. If a funding agency has invested heavily in developing an alternative approach, the alternative is seen as being more "mature". That is the higher ups providing the funding are politically invested the old approach. The people who have been receiving that funding are then rich and connected,as a result/cause of the old funding.


It's a biatch, ain't it?

 
FarkinNortherner [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-08-29 06:55:43 PM  
rodeofrog: From the Article, after the part about the American laser

- which American doctors obviously lacked the skills and innovation to apply ;-)

"However, it said it lacked the necessary funds to take its research further, and needed a further two million euros to progress."

A research team angling for more money ? Golly !

 
looky loo 2008-08-29 06:57:06 PM  
Cucullen: It's a biatch, ain't it?

yea, it is

 
ChaoticLimbs 2008-08-29 06:58:59 PM  
Then they activated the laser, which heated and killed the tumour tissue for up to two minutes. The MRI scan allowed them to modify the exact energy output needed from the laser.


I would want my brain tumor to stay dead longer than that.

 
NightSteel 2008-08-29 07:00:24 PM  
People with frickin' laser beams in their heads? Alright, it'll have to do...

 
Thusly Farked [TotalFark] 2008-08-29 07:01:30 PM  
I work in a medical oncology clinic so I am really getting a kick out of this post!

/really!

 
rodeofrog 2008-08-29 07:06:17 PM  
FarkinNortherner: rodeofrog: From the Article, after the part about the American laser

- which American doctors obviously lacked the skills and innovation to apply ;-)

"However, it said it lacked the necessary funds to take its research further, and needed a further two million euros to progress."

A research team angling for more money ? Golly !


Why would they need to do that under socialized medicine? I thought they just filled out a Form 865389XR-647 Schedule 9B-6 Delta and submit it to the bureau for review by the sub-comittee, after which it would be circulated to the quorum, then passed to the regular comittee, verified by the standing comittee's secretary, then if still valid, re-circulated on Form 865389XR-647 Schedule 9B-6 Fox Trot for approval from the ministry. Then, voila, the euros are as good as in the mail.

 
Thusly Farked [TotalFark] 2008-08-29 07:11:18 PM  
Ravie: I'm not sure I'd want to be conscious while a lazer bores a hole into my skull and slices out part of my brain tissue.

You are awake for any brain surgery. If the surgeon screws up and you are asleep, you could be severely brain damaged. If you are awake, you can tell him something is wrong. During some surgeries, patients have reported remembering songs they have not heard for years when a part of the brain was stimulated (a woman recalled a song her grandmother used to sing, and grandma had died when the patient was a toddler).

Besides, despite the brain being a major nerve center, you do not feel any pain when your brain is operated on. They just give a local anesthetic to the area where they are going to use the bone saw to open the skull cavity, then voila! All access, no pain!

I was hoping for a laser that went through the bone/muscle/brain tissue without having to cut it (a la Star Trek), but if it cures the cancer, I will take it!

/cure for cancer found!

 
neelb420 2008-08-29 07:19:30 PM  
Do they have lasers that give people brain cancer?

Anyway..

 
Fairlane500 2008-08-29 07:20:38 PM  
I taunt your tumor a second time!

 
pxlboy [TotalFark] 2008-08-29 07:31:30 PM  
dammit, sawing into the man's head isn't the answer! the artery has to be repaired!

sheryl.org

 
JesterGirl [TotalFark] 2008-08-29 07:37:06 PM  
"Do you expect me to talk?"
"No, mister Bond, I expect you to die!"

 
Cagey B [TotalFark] 2008-08-29 07:43:40 PM  
JesterGirl: "Do you expect me to talk?"
"No, mister Bond, I expect you to die!"


Of natural causes?

 
BokerBill 2008-08-29 07:56:52 PM  
TFA: five out of six had no remissions in the nine months following surgery.

I'm sure that's not what they meant. Should that be "recurrences"?

Dictionary definition for remission:
Abatement or subsiding of the symptoms of a disease.

 
0MGWTFBBQ 2008-08-29 08:00:21 PM  
You lost me at "French"

 
Slag Heap 2008-08-29 08:05:01 PM  
still no cure for... oh, wait...

 
pdkl95 2008-08-29 08:17:57 PM  
neelb420: Do they have lasers that give people brain cancer?

No, but they have pills that give worms to ex-girlfriends.

 
oregoncat 2008-08-29 08:19:41 PM  
looky loo: I have a question.

Why is it that once people find a legitimate cure/procedure/treatment for cancer their funding seems to dry up once they announce it?

The same think happened to the guys using white blood cells from younger donors as a treatment.

/anyone?


Because of the profit loss for the Medical/Insurance Complex?

 
dodecahedron [TotalFark] 2008-08-29 08:39:24 PM  
I'm encouraged by this but skeptical. With brain cancers the chance for recurrence is very great, you can't even leave a few cells behind, and I don't think this or any treatment to date will completely eradicate a tumor down to the cellular level.

 
Phil Herup 2008-08-29 08:54:57 PM  
outatime: Phil Herup: A comfy pt. is a well behaved pt.

Then tell that cute little thing you've got working the front desk to shimmy on back here and give me a BJ while you're shooting that laser into my brain, eh, Doc?




LOL... not going anywhere near that one.

 
TwistedFark 2008-08-29 08:55:31 PM  
Ravie: I'm not sure I'd want to be conscious while a lazer bores a hole into my skull and slices out part of my brain tissue.

That's fine because the laser doesn't do any boring or slicing at all.

RTFA much?

 
TwistedFark 2008-08-29 08:58:17 PM  
rodeofrog: Why would they need to do that under socialized medicine? I thought they just filled out a Form 865389XR-647 Schedule 9B-6 Delta and submit it to the bureau for review by the sub-comittee, after which it would be circulated to the quorum, then passed to the regular comittee, verified by the standing comittee's secretary, then if still valid, re-circulated on Form 865389XR-647 Schedule 9B-6 Fox Trot for approval from the ministry. Then, voila, the euros are as good as in the mail.

No, you're confused, that's how you get a broken arm set at Kaiser Permanente.

 
tarditi 2008-08-29 09:13:33 PM  
Don't LASE me, bro!

 
Cliche Kitty 2008-08-29 09:19:30 PM  
The ground-breaking surgical trials were conducted on 15 patients over the past two years, overseen by France's health security agency Afssaps. None of the patients' tumours responded to conventional treatment and their life expectancy if untreated was no more than three months.

Only six of the operations were total - covering the whole tumour. Of those, five out of six had no remissions in the nine months following surgery.

Later operations involved patients with several or larger tumours.


If there were no remissions with the initial surgeries, does that mean their tumors came back? Maybe I have a tumor. I'm not processing this for some reason. Either that or a long freaking day.

 
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